Cleveland, Cleveland

I watched the game at Papadeaux last night. Who was seated at the table next to me? Michael “the burner” Turner. I watched hin get up and go to the restroom and his ankle looked fine to me. What a slacker.

As for the Hawks; they are who I thought, uh…think they are…uh were…uh….You get my meaning. They are OK as long as they are not in the spotlight. Unfortunately, the pressure is on and they will lose again tonight.

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I truly believe the Hawks will win by 12 tonight. As the Cavs said themselves they had a hard time on the boards last night. Two of their best rebounders are both over 30 and on the downside of their career. I see Josh and Al having a better chance to bounce back for a good game on the boards than I do of Shaq and Ilguaskus. This may sounds rough, but I think the problem is they need someone to give Varejao some true physical play. If he catches one or two elbows in the side or the back while flying around for a rebound, I think it will slow him down.

The question I have is, in the fourth on the breakaway for West, why didn’t Evans foul him at half court?

Anyway, I look for the Hawks to come into this game with a lot of confidence. I also look for them to leave with confidence and a victory. I think in the first half, the Hawks should goto Pheonix old rule of 10 seconds or less, just to go ahead and get the big guys out of the game.

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Calling Turner a slacker because he can walk to the bathroom? Wtf! And from last blog: RA, whats going to be your excuse after tonights game? We’re still running ISO oe’s after 5 years of the sh.. not working, and you talking bout how the Lakers played against Cleveland. The Lakers take a break every now and then. They can afford to do that. They’re the CHAMPS. We got swept by Cleveland in the Playoffs last year, and last night we had a chance at redemption. But instead, we layed an egg. Plain and Simple. Maybe we’ll redeem ourselves tonight? I seriously doubt it though. And again, SUND thanks for not jumping the GUN. New contract my a..!

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And Woody, there’s only a few players in this league that you can say “give him the ball and everyone get the hell out of the way”, and Joe Johnson IS NOT one of those players. We’ve got to play as a TEAM, or we’re doomed.

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I’m curious to see if Marvin can duplicate his defensive performance in tonites game.

Last night’s game was gaurd-dominated. Not Lebron-dominated, not bigs-dominated. The matchups favor Cleveland in the backcourt. We can’t matchup with Delonte West. As someone else mentioned in another post, we can’t cover up Bibby’s inabilities on the defensive end.

If you throw Bibby out there with Crawford and JJ, then JJ’s stuck playing LBJ. If you want Marvin out there guarding LBJ, then you have JJ/Crawford covering up West/Williams. Defensively, this is probably the Hawks best chance to slow down the Cavs, but offensively, it hurt us last night. Without Bibby on the floor, we couldn’t seem to generate a single good shot.

The Magic give the Cavs problems because their 4-man can stretch the floor. Towards the end of the 1st half, we tryed a lineup with Marvin at the 4, but the problem gets to be downlow with Horford banging with 2 7-footers. We struggled to get boards in that stretch and they got a couple of easy tip-ins/drives to the lane.

What lineup would be best for the Hawks to floor to slow down Cleveland on the defensive end and to generate offense?

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This team is capable of beating Cleveland in Cleveland. I’m not bashing Woody here, but he had no answers in terms of adjustments last night.

If we walk into Cleveland and get blown out tonite, this team is no different from what we saw last year. Sure, we’ve got upgrades, but we don’t want to walk away from this 2-game series with our heads down. This is a “prove yourselves” type of series, and another blowout loss in Cleveland won’t do anything to help the Hawks morale. I wouldn’t count the Hawks out tonite, especially based on an 8-minute scoreless stretch we witnessed last night.

Let’s see what we can do tonite. I’m not too hopeful, but not hopeless. A W tonite is vital for this teams near/future success.

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What if we could someway find a way to trade Joe to the Rockets for T-Mac. I know T-Mac is coming off major injuries but hell Joe keeps fading to black in every big game.

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Woody is the Head Coach, and Tyronne Hill is the big-man Coach. Nuff said! And we’re wondering why we lost? There’s your answer.

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Cavs fan here. I just think that last night the Cavs turned up the dial defensively in the 4th quarter. The Cavs have been kicking up their defense at the ends of games more and more this season. A couple weeks ago they even held Sacramento scoreless in overtime. With the exception of Mo Williams, all of the Cavs rotation players are capable of playing great defense. Delonte West is a fantastic defender, and so is LeBron when he wants to be.

I think the Hawks are better than last year. They’ve gone up a notch. The problem is, they’re still a notch below the Cavs….and probably the Celtics and Magic too. The Hawks can get to that level, but they just might be a year or two away right now.

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tb – come on now! You know Woody is the best coach in the NBA! The only reason we lost is because the players didn’t execute.

The real reason we lost was poor shooting (FT & FG) – just like the Orlando game. Everyone had good looks at the basket in the 4th quarter but couldn’t hit squat!

Poor Marvin – he stuffs Lebron then throws the ball away for an easy Cav’s basket! The guy can’t win! Even though I never played ball in college it was plain to see that Marvin played great defense last night. When he guarded Lebron there were no explosive drives to the rim or easy post up shots. Lebron had to settle for highly contested jumpshots.

When Josh was guarding him …….?? Curious to hear others comments.

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Win by the jump shot, die by the jump shot. Not a surprise. This has been our identity for years. Were a better team for sure but even good jump shooting teams have up and down nights. We are still on track for 50-54 wins which is what I hoped for going into the season. We will still beat a few good teams and lose to a few bad teams.

Balance watch

Post 11-21

Swing 4-9

Guards 16-39

Stat of the night JJ makes four in a row – than goes 1-9. 5-14 overall. Add Bibby with 1-7 and you see how the night went.

Tonight lets hope they shoot us to victory.

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The officiating was ATROCIOUS in the 4th quarter last night. Every time we would start to get some momentum the refs would make a bogus off-ball foul call on us, call a travel, and then not call fouls when our guys are getting Clubbed on the other end. I was there last night, everyone could see it, we got JOBBED in our own house by these subpar NBA officials. Then we lost our composure, Woody got a T, and we couldn’t hit a shot. The Cavs were given 100% momentum, in a close game, by the Zebras. Expect the Hawks to give Cleveland their best shot tonight, and if they can take it, they can take it, but I don’t think they will. Look for the Hawks to play angry and motivated tonight, and don’t be surprised if they beat the Cavs handily.

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Good posts. Trade for tmac. Get some scoring. And we have no chance of competing this year or ever with this roster.

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Our biggest problem was obviously in the paint- giving up points in the paint lack of rebounding. Also, our free throws killed us. If we had just had a decent night at the line and grabbed a few more rebounds, this could have been a different result even with that awful 4th quarter stretch.
Delonte West plays great D on JJ. In a way, Crawford saved us, but once we became dependent on him JJ lost all of his flow and the offense just broke down completely. Some of the worst turnovers imagineable- especially that throw away by Marvin under the Cavs’ goal.

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I meant attack, not attach.

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Very simple to diagnose the problem I think: 1) No penetration from the point 2) No post up threats

Mike Bibby should not be starting for our team. We don’t have enough offensive threats on our team to have a point guard that does not penetrate and dish for an open J. Give Teague I try and I guarantee the results will be better. Bibby fills it up against the weaker teams when they leave him open for a three. Easy to beat the dead horse but if we had C. Paul instead of Williams we would be a legit contender. We don’t have a great post of threat and thus do not create double teams that lead to open J’s. It is a wonder how we even score as many points as we do. Prove me wrong tonight Hawks or I will be forced to bore everyone with comments.

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Chas, how would we be an elite team still without a center, and even worse without Horford? And we also probably wouldn’t have Joe or Smoove, because Paul is making MAX money! Do you actually see this owner group paying for 3 close to max players, and STILL being without a Center?

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Worst 4th quarter I have ever seen from both teams. However, Cleveland finally got going. No ADJUSTMENTS from Coach Woody. He could not even manage to get thrown out by getting a second T; also a strange time to take a T when your team has not scored for almost 5 minutes. I can’t even recall him taking a time out.

Where in the H-ll was Joe? He disappeared after the 7 minute mark of the 1st quarter.

What happen to the difference makers we brought in to contend with teams like the Cavs: Joe Smith no impact, DNP for Teague & Collins. Crawford played well, made buckets; Was’nt Joe suppose to help carry the load too?

Josh Smith is also starting to revert to Josh of old, putting up jumpshots & complaining all night.

Good luck in Cleveland tonight…I think I will tape this one & watch later…………

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Terrell, you’re wrong… The Hawks actually didn’t run “ISO Joe” that much the 4th quarter… I saw many misses from Horford, Smoove, Bibby, Crawford as well… Please look at the plays during the Hawks poor 4th quarter run before you claim that.

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Today is LeBron’s birthday and he has finally recovered from his Wednesday morning hangover after partying hard in the ATL. Could be a rough night. If we lose tonight going into January and have to play that gruesome schedule, we could be 6 or 7 games over .500 by the end of January

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Ramon,

Bibby is probably the worst defensive point guard in the NBA. He is severely overweight, has no speed, and is so predictable with the “pick n roll & pullup jumper” play. He is only good for alleyoops to Josh Smith, which even Joe Johnson can do.

We need a point guard and small forward…Bad…

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Can anyone on here honestly with a straight face say we are contenders? We are not gonna win with bibby doing nothing on offense. We have to be on fire to beat elite teams. We haven’t had one offgame in the last 6yrs where we beat an elite team.we are the exact same team as last year with a better 6th man. We will win 52 games but get destroyed in the 2nd round regardless. This bs about “young guys growing together…another year together” is garbage. Marv has reached his ceiling and horf and smoove rnt gonna get that much better. On top of that, our superstar joe johnson had the same # of pts in the 2nd round last year as delonte on 20 more shots. LOL!! Let joe get his 20m from new jersey. How can someone like d.wade watch last night’s game and not think he’d be that missing piece to get us that ring? I’m so sick and tired of joe’s bs. Horford is much more deserving to be an allstar than joe. Get rid of marvin joe and woody this offseason.

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chas,

Our “stars” shrink vs. the great teams.

Joe had 60 points in the Cleveland series. So did Delonte, on 20 less shots. Bibby did nothing in the 2008 Boston series, 2 years younger. The guy has no speed anymore. He has no offensive moves. He is good for nothing besides a three pointer here or there. Why don’t we just get Jason Kapono for that?

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Delonte West, at 6″3, can do anything Marvin can do at 6″9. Can someone explain to me why Delonte is better than 3/4 of our team and he doesn’t even start?

What a joke.

Fire Woodson for not using the bench in close games

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We are going to get destroyed on the glass again tonight. We can’t just “find a way” to rebound better against a team with 2 7 footers and a very underrated player in Varejao, UNLESS we use ZaZa and Collins more or at all.

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Everyone has ignored Crawford’s horrible defense because he led the hawks in scoring. Bibby played better D last night than he has in the past, but Crawford let the Cavaliers guards take over. Marvin was awesome on Lebron. LBJ attempted more than a handful of forced fadeaways.

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Thomas, Thanks man. Its nice to see that someone has an understanding of the game. Where did all these goons come from?

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chas, yes sir. We were off because our shots were off. Our shot were off because we have no choice but to shoot long range bombs, we cant control the paint. Long range bombs are lower percentage than in the paint shots. When we shoot out side we give them the game.

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I cant see where putting in the world’s biggest hamburger (collins), and an inexperienced rookie, is an adjustment.

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Ramon Good posts!

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We’ll be up 14-7, just like we always are on the Cavs, then it’ll be 29-24 Cavs, then LeBron will sit first 4 minutes of 2nd and Mo will hit 3 3’s for Cleveland, making it a 42-29 lead. We’ll be down 48-39 at halftime. Then 3rd quarter we’ll get down even more and lose 91-79

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Cmon Ken Strickland

Mike Woodson sticks with the same starting lineup no matter what.

That’s one of the main reasons Childress left– he felt he had no chance to be named a starter and that it was Marvin’s permanently

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JEJE-I didn’t say he would start this gm, but he should. We all know it won’t happen. After all, when Bibby injuried his ankle, instead of starting or even playing Teague, Woodson insisted on running an obviously tender ankled Bibby out with the starters, and he limped around doing very little.

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Chas, the 87 Hawks may would beat this Hawks team, but its not because its a better offensive team. That is unless you think the statistic lie. This is the most efficient the Hawks have ever been on offense.

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Go Hawks. If you guys can’t beat the Cavs tonight at least beat them up!

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Collins needs some PT against Shaq

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Joe with the turnover.

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Cavs act like everyone fouls them and they foul nobody…

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HEY JOSH WHY THE HELL DID YOU NOT EVEN TRY TO GET A REBOUND OVER MO F*CKING WILLIAMS YOU DIDNT TRY TO BOX HIM OUT OR EVEN JUMP AND YOU LET A GUY YOU CAN OUTJUMP BY 3 FEET GRAB THE BOARD RIGHT NEXTT TO YOU,. WAKE THE F*CK UP.

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use the pump fake and go by… good to see that.. would have like to see Marvin pump and blow by Lebron…

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So uh, think we’ll finally double Shaq or just let him bang away & get our few bigs into foul trouble? Guess Woodson won’t be satisfied until he has to sit Josh or Al for the majority of the 1st half. And you know the only other bigs he’ll play will be ZaZa & maybe, just maybe, a few minutes for Joe Smith. Yep, once Shaq wears us down on the inside & gets us into that foul trouble, then LeBron will take over and it’s all dunks & free throws from there. I hope I’m wrong!

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Couldn’t understand the BOO Birds everytime Lebron touched the ball last night! They (CAVS) still WON! Not a big Lebron Fan however he still provides us with entertainment. Boo’ing Lebron is useless. Let’s see what the Hawks do tonight( Starting off the smae way)!

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Paul,

Are you suggesting the Hawks Fans should cheer for Lebron… geesh…

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Can we get a foul call. Bibby clearly got foul…

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What?! Stop the presses. Woodson plays Collins! Woodson plays Collins! Lord knows we can use another big body & his allowed 6 fouls! I say, give the Cleveland bigs free throws not layups.

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lol @ Bob..

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Melvin…

right…

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great subs…
good defense…
scrappy, getting to loose balls…
Bibby… Joe… Marvin… l

looks good… keep it up…

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i need a PG.. please Woodson get a PG in there to run the club…

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How bout some DEF from Collins downlow on Shaq?!?!

Can’t be so sloppy running. Gotta maximize posessions on the offensive end.

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here we go again… 4th qrt all over again…

PG… needed…

i thought they werent going to call that him throwing the ball at Big Pawlky…

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need a PG Woodson… making shots… but it looks bad…

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good foul…

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Good minutes by Collins!

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Good thing ZaZa has two fouls or Collins would not have to wash his uniform for the next game. I guess Bibby, Mo and Jamal have to foul out in order for Teague to play….

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ah man….Tyrone Hill….proof God has a sense of humor.

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Collins also got an offensive rebound and assist!

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Joe ball hoggin.

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Good to see Collins in the game… played some quality time and gave some good defense against Shaq. It only took a third of the season, but I guess better late than never.

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Think this is a good time to get Marvin back in the game…

Keep Marvin on LBJ and keep rotating different guys onto West/Williams int he backcourt.

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yessir Joe…

ball out on they ass!!!

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BBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

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Being way too sloppy with that ball. Gotta maximize possessions and quit sending them to the line.

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Clean blocks for Joe and AL….

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yes Sir!

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Lets go!!!!!!!!!

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bigdave,

Josh was just pleading his case to the refs. Nothing malice…

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i love it coach…

if you gonna go at Bibby you gonna have to go at him with Moon….

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Man, watching LeBron travel to the moon out there. The guy took like 4 steps and double dribbled on one play

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pump them… yessir…

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Big Polky with the screen buddy… you been screened when he lays into you… believe that.

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Looking good. Gotta tighten up that D a bit though. Can’t keep letting Lebron spot up top of the key for wide open jumpers. Cavs doing a good job setting screens to free him up.

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bigdave,

I rather see Lebron score 80 than get a triple double… I think the Cavs are at their best when everyone is involve…. So I dont mind if they go into Iso-LBJ for the rest of the game…

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Marvin has been doing a good job, he can’t get passed by all screens and imagine that Lebron would sink 2 shots from 40ft

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Mac-Town’z Finest 478: LOL! I’d say tic tac toe. About Collins…yep, got to love a big body with 6 fouls to use!

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Good 1st half by the Lebron….

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exactly Melvin…

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Duplicate this in the 2nd half, and avoid the dry spells. We can slow the Cavs down. We did a good job of that last night but couldn’t generate enough points to get a W. Tonite, we managed to put together a 64-point 1st half.

Lets go Hawks!

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Woody trippin on Crawford. Never says a word to JJ when he takes a bad shot. Gets on my nerves!

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Can you see it coming? Everyone will bring in their “Al is just a PF argument” after this game…

Well, he is against Shaq and maybe against Howard, and that is why we have Collins!

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As for Crawford, you don’t know if Woody called a different play and he broke it

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Woody’s done a good job handling the rotation today. He’s been rotating the right guys into the lineup to matchup with the Cavs. Last night, it seemed we had no matchup for Delonte West. But tonite, Woody has swapped the right guys in and out the lineup to create a more favorable matchup. Guys like Evans offer a better matchup against West. Woody’s also done a good job rotating Marvin in and out of the game, and although he’s had some lapses, he’s offers us our best shot at slowing down LBJ without tiring JJ out on the defensive end.

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Here’s where the real test comes. We’ve played the Cavs VERY well so far. They WILL make adjustments. We have to figure them out quickly and adjust in return, while not falling into old, bad habits.

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The bench came to play – our starters are rested. Hope Woody sticks with game plan of first half.

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Still think we could play josh at the 3 and go big, when Marvin needs a break. Josh on Labron might work. Got 5 fouls to work with.

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what a hustle play

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another one!!!!

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Must be nice to be LeBron. Never a charge, never a charge! This cat is initiating contact EVERY drive. Wow.

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The Cavs annoucers act like Lebron does nothing wrong…

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We got jumpshot happy and the Cavs cut into our lead…

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Cavs seem to be tightening up that D and Atlanta’s been settling for jumpers the last couple times down.

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and here comes the cavs

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aight Hawks… lets play through the b…s…

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lol josh is scared to get dunk on by lebron

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Chokejobs.

We’re supposed to be the team that wants to run, so how is it that Cleveland is getting easy transition buckets on us?

Nobody’s even stepping out on these 3-pointers.

Pick it back up.

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you knew cavs would come back and get it close but didn’t expect it to happen so fast. this team still has a lot of growing up to do. super talented but still doing so many stupid things.

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yes we made mistakes, but these were induced by the refs.

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i was at work

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get the crowd back silent

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i dont think we can afford to not have Bibby in this game… he has to play the rest of this game…

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whattttt josh made a jumper lol

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Way to answer the Cavs run…. Along as Lebron is doing all the scoring the Hawks should be ok….

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It’s just really aggravating watching the Hawks play the Lebrons because everytime Lebron gets the ball the refs always seem to find a way to help Cleveland out. C’mon Hawks! Just hang in there and get a win and split these two games!

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lol keyshia cole husband in the game

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I think we can affirm that JJ has shown up tonight.

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Why the heck do we run pick&rolls with ZaZa? It’s not like he’s going to execute

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COME ON. ITS OBVIOUS LEBRON WAS GONNA SHOOT A 3 ON THAT PLAY. DONT GIVE HIM SPACE

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We can say that Big Ray. I can also say it’s about damn time. If Joe wants a new contract next season, he better start playing with more consistency. If he wants to named amongst the Kobes, Lebrons, Wades, and Carmelos of the NBA then he needs to start playing like this every single night.

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Why didnt Woody put Joe Smith and Collins in the game. They played well in the 1st half…

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Why not put in Collins for a few minutes on Ilgauskas? ZaZa looks horrendous out there

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Alright Hawks, time to MAN-UP!

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12 minutes seems like an eternity. Need to be up around 8 with 4 minutes left and execute from here on out.

Jamal Crawford time!!

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You are correct ‘BigDave’. He did have a few good games where he dropped 40 on Denver and somewhere in the mid 20s on Indiana. But the consistency I’m talking about is how he started out hot last night against Cleveland to start the first quarter of the game, but was a no-show the next three quarters.

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smh come on refs

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BS… offensive call on Marvin. Shaq and Lebron has been leading with their elbows all night..

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WOW!!! They call that an offensive foul on Marvin, but Lebron can play running back through the lane and he gets a blocking foul? WTF?

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Woodson you NEED A PG!!! GET A PG IN THE GAME

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bad defense… get Crawford out of the game…

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and to think some MF’er came on here talking bout he couldnt understand why Lebron was getting booed…

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Woodson…IF YOU CAN HEAR ME!!!! **PUT BIBBY ON THE FLOOR AND LEAVE HIM OUT THERE FOR THE ENTIRE 4TH QUARTER**

Please don’t make the same dumb ass mistake like last night!

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Lmao. Wtf was that clown talking about how he can’t believe LBJ is getting booed?

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ditto RICO!!!

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good move Joe..

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uh oh iso joe

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Now they cant f-ing score again.

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here we go again… no 4th quarter scoring

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that was iso Jamal…

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There’s our superstar Joe Johnson playing his 1 on 1 garbage again and not getting teammates involved

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foul on Lebron!! on the previous Joe floater…

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ISO-JJ/JAMAL on the last 3 possessions.

And as I type, JJ with the and-1.

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We are going to lose this game. We’ve gone right into ISO mode, predictably. All the Cavs had to do was wait. ISO Jamal, ISO Joe.

Lucky break on the foul call.

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Mannnnnn the Hawks survived a BIG ONE.Get Bibby in NOW!!

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Here we go again…another call for LePrimadonna

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Crawford defending LeBron? Seriously? Good stuff Woodson. Ugh!

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Melvin ,

Took the words right out of my mouth…

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LOL

I love watching Woody yell at players and them just walking away

Our switching on defense is horendous. We cannot have ZaZa guarding LeBron on an average play

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joe tryin a lil 2 hard

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Iso Joe, iso Joe!!!! Not again!!!! Ugh!!!

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OBVIOUSLY, Joe is tired, and the Cavs are baiting him into driving into the double team.

Meanwhile, Lebron TRAVELS his way to the free throw line. Priceless.

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Isn’t Ken supposed to be blogging here during the game?

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Yessir Bibby….

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Joe has been so selfish in the quarter. Not helping his teammates out at all on offense. Thank God we’re still up

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Somebody needs to take one for the team and knock the F%CK out of LeBron. Being good is one thing but being a showboat isnt called for.

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The NBA loses credibility everytime Lebron plays. They favor him so much that it is disgusting.

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what???

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WOODY!!! Get Joe OUT OF THERE, he is breathing with his mouth wide open, and doesn’t have enough strength to make ANY shot! What is WRONG with you?!

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bad shots and Turnovers

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How many times do we have to go down the floor and not even get off a shot. We cannot beat this team.

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man hawks just cant seem 2 pull away

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Anthony Parker with the Michael Jordan 360.

RUN AN OFFENSIVE PLAY. LET BIBBY THROW AN ALLEYOOP TO SMOOVE

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This sicking to watch. And to listen to the Cavs broadcasting crew is punishment on top of watching this horrible officating….

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do they keep stats on the number of calls a player gets (fouls against)??

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You don’t have to be well-rested to pass the ball Joe!

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FT 33-13 Cavs

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BS.. Josh got hammer

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WHERE’S the FOUL????

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why don’t we just have the 4 other players stay on the defensive end since they don’t play on the offensive end?

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No bad call excuses tonight. BEAT THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!

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????????????????????????????????????

LEBRON IS KILLING EVERYONE ELSE

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Shaq was so dominant that he havent seen gametime at all in the 4th qtr…..

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I’m right there with ya, Melvin. The Cavs officiating crew are still complaining every time the Hawks get a foul call, as if there isn’t a 2:1 foul differential so far tonight in the Cavs’ favor.

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Joe is just doing what he’s asked to do.. after playing all game last night and tonight… and he’s stilled played well…

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*Cavs’ broadcasting crew, not officiating crew.

Now THAT is what I call a Freudian slip

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Jamal just doing what he’s asked to do…

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Hawks choke it. Take it to the bank. Or take it to the carjack winder.

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Exactly what everyone is saying is the main reason I HATE the NBA.

The ref that got busted for gambling (what’s his name) said it plain as day. The NBA gave calls to the star players and determined outcomes in games.

Tonight is definately one of them.

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Almost wish we had Duck in right now over Crawford. Duck played okay these last 2 games

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The more I watch the NBA, the more I believe Tim Donaghy.

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Crawford…

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wooooow shot clock

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appeal!!!!

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Wtf seemed like after 10 seconds shot clock was at 3

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This is just absurd.

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tell him Nique… in your day you woulda yolked on his ass!!!

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You got caught CHEATING on tape/National TV you sorry Refs….

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Worst officiating call in any sport I have ever seen, that’s awful

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Why do you take that shot there?

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Josh and his outside shots

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When a call went against Shaq and the Heat, the NBA made us replay the game and unrung the bell. But they won’t when a call goes in favor of LeBron, Shaq, and the Cavs.

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Goaltending….

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WOW! The referees called a goal tend on their Jesus? That must have been retribution for the shot clock thing. lol

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LOL

why do these punks always hit these shots against us

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Joe 3 at buzzer and leave cleveland

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I will say I like the emotion the Cavs show. Would be nice to see the Hawks (Joe) show some.

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GO FOR THE WIN JOE F- IT!!!

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Now the refs want to look at the replay…

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I hate the NBA!

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I hate these Cleveland Bas*ards.

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Good call Brett….

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The Atlanta Sports jinx still lives.

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good look…

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F+ck F+ck F+ck!

Congratulations refs… what a great win!

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Cleveland: Cheaters Hawks: Chokers

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have to say I’d rather have Bibby shooting it than Joe

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Crawford bad D. just stand there and make him shoot over the top.

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jobbed.

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Tired of excuses. This team is not the baby Hawks anymore and need to start winning big games like this.

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Wtf was Joe thinking on that last play? waited 10 seconds to pass for that?

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For the love of god Woody, you better pick up a fine after this one. The refs did everything they could to ensure that win for Cleveland.

This officiating issue is never going to get better until coaches start speaking up en masse and taking fines until Stern (who is a disgrace of a commish) is forced to clean up the refs and end all this “star treatment” crap. A foul is a foul, no matter who committs it.

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i knew it to. up by 17 pts in the 3rd… i still said Bron-Bron was going to win this game. Refs wouldn’t allow the Hawks to win this game.

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The Hawks should demand a replay of the final 1:30 from the lost possession. That was an absolutely, positively CRITICAL possession that was screwed up by the shot clock failing to reset. The refs should have stricken the possession that followed and replayed it from the time the Hawks rebounded the ball and the clock didn’t reset.

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We got robbed! Great game guys. You played your butts off.

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NBA = Cheaters! That was crap, pure crap. I’m done. There is no way they will ever let a Hawks team win. Cheaters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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unbelievable officiating…

the offensive foul against Marvin… the blocking foul on james charge.

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Come on Ken, surely you will write about the shabby NBA refs in this game. I hope Woody gets fined for what he is about to say.

The NBA is a joke!

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And why the hell do teams’ role players always dagger us? How the hell do Ilgauskas and Varejao make these shots?

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This game is a scam. Pure and simple.

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JeJe, stop the nonsense. We were robbed like hell.

We played a good game while the refs let us. There were absolutely no calls going our way…

Marvin’s charge… please… JJ was fouled in 3 of his last 5 possessions. Varejão had several elbow to the chest or back fouls which were not called…

The table did not re-set the shot clock… do you want me to continue?? Get a grip.

Yes we made mistakes, but try and play the game against 8 like we did and see how do you fare.

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HOW MUCH DID LBJ PAY THOSE REFS????!!!!!! DID OUR DEAR NBA COMMISSIONER ADDED THE SAME AMOUNT ???? THIS IS ROBBERY!!!!!

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and they decided to reply .5 secs for the Cavs.

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can the hawks appeal?

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i have tried so hard to get behind this team, but i’m done with them. call me fair weather if you want, but i am beyond sick and tired of watching Atlanta teams trick me into thinking they’re gonna be good and then choke when it really matters. this is just becoming the NBA version of the Braves, and i really don’t feel like wasting 4 more months watching this team so they can inevitably get bounced in the 2nd round of the playoffs when our so called “superstar” decides to take the week off and play like a bench warmer. why is it asking too much to get one team in this city that doesn’t let you down???

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then Lebron fouled Josh on the same play…

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SMFH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM NOW COVINCED THAT THE NBA IS RIGGED. SMFH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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cheshire you’re fair weather…

this team fought tonight. only a fair weather would think otherwise…

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Art,

Unfortunately this was a standard ref performance. There were AT LEAST 20 calls or non calls going against us…

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Refs need to be suspended after the lack of calls in this game!

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I have never been compelled to post a blog until today. I am so angry and dissapointed. I watch the Hawks vs clevland tonight and what I witnessed was disgusting. The Hawks played a great game but you can’t beat your opponent and the referees. They cheated for Clevland the freethrow discrepency was atrocious. The game seemed to be rigged. How can they get away with that sh….t. They need to give the hawks some respect. I couldnt continue to watch because I knew the hawks were destined to lose. To all hawks fans please complain to whomever is over the officiating. The Hawks actually outplayed Clevland but the game was gift wrapped. In my heart any to anyone else that watched the game. I know you feel the same as I.To Mike Woodson great coaching job. I thank you for using your extra bigs. You were outstanding the team played great. It was amazing the team didnt give up and throw in the towel. It was obvious to me the refs were not about to let Clevland lose. How in the h..ll the referees did not keep up with the shot clock boggles my mind. They should be repremended for their incompetence. I am livd people.

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ill never consider James great… he’ll never have to earn anything in this league.

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Can anyone recall a time that RandMo or Collins have been used OVER ZaZa? We should’ve used Collins all game

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Calling all Hawks fans to sue the NBA! This is just outrageous!!

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Cavs: 38 free throws
Hawks: 15 free throws

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Mac Town – The Hawks do try to take it to the hoop. But it takes a defender pulling out a 9 iron and whacking our guys before we get a foul call. So they start settling for jumpers because they KNOW the refs aren’t going to give them the calls.

With legit officiating, the Hawks can and do take it to the hoop. But if they’re playing against one of the NBA’s golden boys (Lakers, Cavs, Heat etc) teams they can take it to the hoop all night, get clubbed and get nothing. So their only shot to score is to shoot perimeter jumpers all night.

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SMH…IM DONE WITH THE NBA FOR A WHILE…THIS IS STARTING TO GET STUPID…THE REFS DID WHAT THEY CAME TO DO AND THAT DID IT BEFORE ALL OF OUR EYES SMH…LEBRON SHOT MORE FREE THROWS THAN THE HAWKS WHOLE TEAM?!?!…LIKE MY GRANDMA USED TO SAY “UM UM UM…NOW THAT JUST AINT RIGHT”…

IM OUT…MAYBE I’LL CATCH ANOTHER GAME IN A WEEK OR SO…

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So I guess the refs and clock operater are going out with LeBron for his birthday tonight. The refs from the game tonight should be fined. No team should ever have 23 more free throw attempts then the other team. Also, if I am not mistaken the refs are suppose to check to make sure the shot clock resets on every possession. Makes me wonder if these refs were friends with Tim Donaghy.

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Calm down, people.

The officials sucked. They always suck. They have helped us out a lot too.

We stayed under the pick when LeBron had the ball like 4 times which led to 4 3’s by him.

We ran that BS Joe ISO garbage in the 4th. It’s not like we didn’t make mistakes. Cleveland is a better team than us. I would not want to play this team in the 2nd roudn under any case.

So the officials helped us lose but it’s also on us

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This win for Cleveland is a b-day present to LJ from the NBA!

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Send the Stinger to Siberia to never return!!! He just selected LBJ “Star of the Game”!!!???
Another birthday present???

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woody on shot clock says “I am not going to comment on that at this time. we will file protest.”

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Woody says he will protests. Go Woody!!

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GUYS MARVIN IS A GREAT DEFENDER! HE ONLY GAVE UP 46 TONIGHT TO LEBRON!

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WTF is filing a protest gonna do?

“We recognize we made a mistake. There is nothing we can do.”

blah blah blah

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Suckers

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FT Clev Atl
38 15
Lebron
16

I’ve seen a lot over the years and the NBA definately has a “star sytem” no question.

But tonight might be the worst i’ve ever seen. it reminded me of the Jordan rules of the late 80’s.

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I am ALBINOOOOOo

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I told everyone. Stern and the officials are as crooked as the day is long. I was made the fall guy for what every fan in the league can see. The league is fixed.

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Hey guys, the refs did suck…..but if you think the “refs” are the only thing separating the Hawks from being an “elite contender” then you are smoking some of the finest stuff this side of the Mississippi.

We live and die by the jump shot……….just like the past few seasons…the increase in yearly wins the last 2 years is simply because of acquiring better players……but still the same offensive philosophy that probably will get us no where when it matters (playoffs against teams like the cavs)

even before the 4th Quarter….the Cavs were still in the game…even though we were shooting lights out.
Too 1 dimensional ….nobody to dump the ball down low to and expect consistent results……..nobody willing to drive the ball strong to the rack and finish or get to the line.

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Firsrt off, goodbye Cheshire, and good riddance. Anybody else want off? There’s the door. Folks, the Cavs threw EVERYTHING they had at Atlanta, and got a lot of help. As far as I’m concerned, this is one of the best games that they played this season. Listen, when Lebron James can run through TWO players with NOTHING being called and land on a players back with NOTHING being called. When Verejo or however the crap you spell his name (I don’t care) can push Al Horford while he’s trying to shoot and NOTHING gets called, you’re going to have a hard night, even when you play as hard as the Hawks do. Kobe and the Lakers wouldn’t have done any better tonight. Now, I say this as a basketball fan, what happened tonight what a travesty. When you look at the no-calls and that debacle with the time clock at the end. Now, even if all that doesn’t happen, Lebron may score 55 and they MAY win anyway, but it’s going to take a while to wipe the smell of skunk off this loss, and if I was Woody, I’d have a formal protest on Commissioner Sterns desk in the morning.

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Really ticked on 2 notes…

1) The refs should be ashamed of themselves. If ever there was a time to believe games are fixed or players are favored. Whatever.

2) Hawks are solely to blame for blowing a 17-point lead. Don’t know who to slap first, Woodson for call back-to-back-to-back Iso plays or Joe & Jamal for trying to do too much at the end of the game. It’s a recurring nightmare. Hawks share the ball the whole game & get selfish when the game tightens.

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I will be starting the “Woody Please Curse Out The Refs In Public” foundation. All proceeds will go to pay the fines occured by Woody openly expressing his feelings constantly to NBA officials and NBA heads.

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And Brett, if you can throw guys all over the place with nothing getting called, but the other team can’t even breath on you without sending you to the free throw line, chances are you’d outscore a team by 13 too.

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Mac-Town ,

Josh and Al can score against Lebron and Varejao. How are they going to stop them without fouling? Tell it like it is, if you’re going to say that Hawks aren’t good enough: Woody calls ISO with his two favorite guards, and ignores his low post guys when things get tight.

Talent doesn’t separate us. Strategy does.

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Ken S. You wanna make a name for yourself? Then RAISE HELL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT. Act like you work in a Philly newspaper, and is pissed off at what happened.

- Cavs FTA: 38 . . . Hawks FTA: 15

- Lebron FTA: 16

Yes folks . . Lebron had more FTAs than the ENTIRE HAWKS TEAM. Ish . . Jemario Moon had 6 FTA in 13 minutes. No Hawk had more than 4, even though we got hit almost every time we went to the basket.

Then you add the clock controversy, and it makes it all the more worse.

GROW A SACK @ THE ATLANTA SPORTSWRITERS.

Defend this team . . even if it seems like you’re whining.

Josh Smith can’t get a call. Joe Johnson, who played like a SUPERSTAR, can’t get a call. But Lebron and Jamario Moon gets calls?

RAISE HELL ATLANTA !!

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Ken’s game story mentions nothing of free throw difference or shot clock problem!!!! Hello, earth calling Ken. come in Ken.

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I’m with northcyde.

Hey AJC, you WON’T be fined by the NBA if you actually call them out on the headline. Don’t use titles that makes it look like the Hawks can’t play. FIX IT…..please

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JeJe,

I’m calling you out!

Name one game the Hawks scorekeepers stole from another team. You feckless piece of crap, a scrofulous poltroon if one ever existed JeJe.

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I told you all Ken Sugiura was a joke since the day he took over.

The guy doesn’t travel with the team, game blogs are anemic pieces of !#@$ that take 30 seconds to write. He shows no emotion, doesn’t blog during the games, and sucks.

God Damnit

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Je je you must be a Clevland fan there is know way you could have watched that game and say the refs were not cheating.

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JD, they did not give TJ Ford 2 points on a bucket for Toronto a few years ago…A game we won by 4 points. Why don’t you go look that up, you !@#$ing piece of !@#$?

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PEOPLE, THE REFS SUCKED. WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT WE UNDERACHIEVED A LOT TOO. WE GAVE UP A 17 POINT LEAD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. THE REFS HAVE HELPED US IN GAMES TOO. THEY HELPED US WIN THAT ROAD PORTLAND GAME. DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THAT GAME? WE CHOKED AT HOME AND WE LOST TO A SUPERIOR TEAM ON THE ROAD ON THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD’ BIRTHDAY

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JeJe you are right Ken is a sorry piece of crap and should be fired.

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my bad…shooting jumpers and Joe Johnson going 1 on 5 with floaters in the lane…..which amazingly seem to go in at a much lower percent in the 4th quarter during big games

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My God I thought Jeff Schultz was bad…

FIRE KEN SUGIURA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DUDE DID YOU EVEN WATCH…

BOYCOTT THE AJC…

HELL FIRE THE REFS AND KEN SUGIURA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

IM PISSED THE HELL OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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make Ken SUGARGAYra walk back from Cleveland!!!!

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Ken – you are insulting the players by calling this a flop. This game is under protest.

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How the hell do they reset the shot clock to 15? Isn’t it set to 14 when a player is fouled anyway?

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Fort Valley Chevy Rider,

I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAKE KEN WALK BACK FROM CLEVELAND NOW!!!!!!!

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I’m considering never watching another NBA game. They have destroyed the game I love. If the games are not fixed, @ the very least the league has such a bias toward it’s stars that there can be no competitive balance.
*Case in point: [2] block/charge calls both involving LbJ. Josh cannot be more perfectly set [block]; the other Marvin, no way LbJ was set or even in pos. [charge].
*Shot clock violation: you have until the next dead ball for a correctable error. Woodson should protest.[Pat Riley set precedent in Atl. when he protested clock malfunction]
*Also, his foot very much appeared to be on the line.[Verajao]sp.
But, the main point is there is no reason to believe it’s about competition anymore. It’s about show. The pre-game carnival complete with party hats made me sick.
And ‘James’ even though he gets every call, he still whines about the ones that don’t go his way. He barks at the ref. as much as Josh
(if thats pos.) yet ‘Bibby of all people gets T’d up. On top of all this he [James] shows no humility. He’s 25 now. He’s a grown-up. I must give Josh an enormous amount of credit, for the maturation he’s showing.
(not to mention the restraint)
To all of our guys, no matter how much myself and others get on here and bitch and moan…you guys, our guys, are 1st class in every respect. I’m proud to be a Hawks fan.

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KEN SHOW YOUR FACE YOU BUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COME TELL EVERYONE YOUR REASONING BEHIND THAT ARTICLE!!!!!!

IM WAITING….

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JeJe,

As usual, you are wrong again – the short clock resulted in a fumbled drive by Josh as the shot clock ran down. You did not even see the game did you?

You come here posting all your negative, senseless rants making false charges and claims and then want someone to shut up? You are the classic example of a FOOL.

Selah (A tribute to F. Bisher)

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Hey!! Screw what you guys are talking about!!!! Screw the refs and all of that!!!

I want Ken SUGARGAYra FIRED ASAP..WHERE’S THE PETITION ….I’LL BE THE FIRST TO SIGN!!!!$@#$#@w#$@

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Atlanta sports are officially a joke

Falcons suck. No defense and didn’t win 1 big game this year

People still think Braves are good because they have Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones–LOL.

Thrashers no one talks about

Hawks are a tease and will not contend

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CLE 2
ATL 0

seems to be going in the same direction as the playoff series last season, huh

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Granddad,

A correctable error must be discovered within 24 seconds. At that point the game goes back to the time of the error and all play from the error is erased. After 24 seconds nothing can be changed.

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When NBATV doesn’t even mention anything about the shotclock debacle during their highlight, I’m wondering why they’re not?

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AND WHY THE HELL DOES HORFORD GET STRIPPED EVERY TIME HE DRIVES?

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You guys honestly can’t take anything positive from this mini-series with the Cavs? Sure, we lost both games, but clean up some things here and there and see them a little later down the road, I’d like our chances.

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2nd half Free throw shooting:

Cavaliers: 16 attempts ( Lebron 11 )

Hawks: 3 attempts ( and one was from an illegal defense call )

And here’s a reference point, concerning the timekeeper not resetting the shot clock:

Hawks are up 99 – 98 . . with 1:54 to go . . . and the ball.

How about you sackless Atlanta sportswriters write about that, instead of talking about how the Hawks “FLOPPED”. What a bull-syht headline.

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It was a winnable game but to ignore the number of no calls and favorable calls for Cleveland would be silly. Might be the one of the worst officiated games I have seen in some time.

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ra i see you saw the same game i did, exact same plays but bron bron ran over him twice.

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That’s a great Idea @ Time . . . they should do a damn documentary on what happened tonight, even if they have to post the ish on Youtube or something. Do some in-depth reporting on what happened tonight.

The league actually made us replay a damn game 2 years ago, because of a time issue. Let’s see if you Atlanta sportswriters will even reference that, in regards to this game.

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I could have swore Youngstown, Ohio was yet another one of the deteriorating, rust belt cities lined throughout the midwest that looks like a bomb was dropped on it. You have no room to talk about Atlanta.

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Wabe – agree with your 10:24 post. It’s not the end of the world and our Hawks will have to fight the whole month to get some calls, seeing the agenda they are up to.

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i remember 1 play in particular where james got the lose ball rebound and dipped his shoulder into a stationary Josh outside of the restricted area and Josh was called for blocking… then Marvin gets an AND1 on Delonte “coach take me out so i can hit this blunt” West and he’s called for a charge.

i thought Woodson coached well and used his talents tonight. i have only have 2 gripes… countless times i called for a true PG being on the floor w/ Joe and Mal… we had bad offense (not just iso’s) on every possession w/ out Bibby. if we converted it was b/c a tough shot was made. this is not necessarily a credit to Bibby, but strength to the argument of needing a back up PG as a moderator to this offense. i also think we should have left Marvin in the game when he usually exits for Jamal. we had enough offense with Joe being on and Bibby having a better shooting night. there were moments late that Jamal’s defensive and rebounding hurt us.

all in all we punched those guys back. Hawks as a unit, coaches and roster, showed me what i needed to see…

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We are 1-4 against the 4 best teams in the NBA. 0-2 vs. Cleveland, 0-1 vs. Lakers, 0-1 vs. Magic, 1-0 vs. Boston

Dreadful January coming up

THIS TEAM HAS TO PLAY ITS BEST BASKETBALL–PERFECT BASKETBALL TO BEAT THE BEST TEAMS. WE ARE NOT CONTENDERS WITH THE ROSTER AS STANDS

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