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Greetings, all-

What to make of Tuesday night?

Jamal Crawford’s take: “We had a rough stretch scoring the ball and that hasn’t been the case all year. We look at it as a fluke, laying an egg, and hopefully come out tomorrow and get a win.”

I don’t know if I entirely agree with him, but I don’t think he’s so far off. I don’t know what happened in the fourth quarter. Crawford said that pressure built with each failed possession. Al Horford said that Cleveland defended the transition differently and caught the Hawks by surprise. After a sizzling start, Joe Johnson might have been as ineffective as I’ve seen him. Obviously, Cleveland had something to do with it. The Cavs are one of the best defensive teams in the league – first in points in the paint allowed, second in defensive field goal percentage and fourth in points allowed per game. Earlier this season, they held Milwaukee scoreless for more than 11 minutes.

Mike Brown, before Tuesday’s game: “Guys are doing a nice job limiting teams to one shot. There were stretches (in the season) where we were getting hurt on the offensive glass, there were stretches where we got hurt in transition. There was a stretch where we were turning the ball over and our floor balance wasn’t great and we were getting hurt real bad with some easy baskets. We’ve kind of done a decent job of trying to clean that up. Our guys have been focusing on those areas and done a better job of not letting those easy buckets happen to us.”

But, it did seem fluky. I (and you, I imagine) have grown accustomed to the Hawks making good decisions with the ball – or at least not turning it over – and they were just haphazard, particularly in the fourth quarter. I guess the tougher part is teasing out how much pressure and defense had to do with it, and how much was the Hawks just imploding.

Some links:

Jeff Schultz’s column from the game.

“I think we put too much pressure on ourselves to go win a game instead of just playing the way we know how to play,” Josh Smith said. “We definitely thought about this game too hard.”

Hawks pre-game?

Hawks pre-game?

Cleveland Plain-Dealer’s game story.

(The Cavaliers) have never done what they enforced on the Hawks in this one, stuffing them for nearly nine minutes in the fourth quarter.

espn.com’s Daily Dime.

qualitatively it was shocking how little had changed from the playoff series nearly eight months ago.

Anyway, going forward.

Why the Hawks will win

1. Few gave them much of a chance in Boston and Dallas, and they won there. (The Dallas game, you’ll remember, followed the New York loss, one of the worst of the season. Josh Smith got tossed, the starters played extended minutes and it looked for all the world like Dallas would run the Hawks out of the gym. Interestingly, Crawford said pretty much the same thing following that New York game that he did Tuesday. This is a pretty confident group, and I didn’t sense any self-doubt in the locker room after the game.)

2. I think the Hawks think or know they can play with Cleveland, and I don’t think they’re scared. As poorly as the Hawks played offensively at times, they did a pretty solid job on Cleveland defensively, particularly in the second half. Marvin Williams defended admirably against LeBron James (and had a solid night overall), although I’m not sure where to draw the Marvin played well/LeBron played poorly line.

I think LeBron's the one on the left

I think LeBron's the one on the left

3. I don’t think the Hawks will have a stretch like they did Tuesday night, at least not of their own doing.

4. The Hawks were a little miffed with the chirping that some of the Cavaliers were doing, which may make them all the more eager for payback (if they need any more reasons). Without naming him, they were particularly unimpressed with the woofing that Jamario Moon was doing.

5. Despite their many incompetence issues, the Hawks had 23 fast-break points against Cleveland, 10 more than the Cavs’ average. There’s no reason the Hawks can’t do better if they handle the ball better in transition than Tuesday.

Why they won’t

1. Again with James – even if Williams had a lot to do with his 6-for-20, there’s no way he plays like that two nights in a row.

2. When the Hawks won in Boston, they were helped by Boston shooting 1 for 15 from 3-point range. In Dallas, Josh Howard was out.

3. Besides James, I don’t think Cleveland played all that well. There were a number of turnovers that were just bad, bad plays that I wouldn’t expect that team to make. The Hawks will likely face a better team Wednesday.

4. One of the Hawks’ pillars is rebounding. Cleveland neutralized the Hawks Tuesday, outrebounding the Hawks 43-30 and holding them to five offensive boards, and there’s no reason to think the Cavaliers can’t do it again.

5. Bottom line, it’s hard not to say that the Cavaliers are a better team. The Hawks’ chance to take one was Tuesday.

Why do you think the Hawks will win/lose tonight? Feel free to use my reasons, as each of them rates a 10 for insight.*

This one goes to 11.

This one goes to 11.

Also, I’m planning on figuring out who won the prediction contest in my hotel in Cleveland this afternoon. Looking forward to it.

* Sarcasm.

632 comments Add your comment

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

Shaq threw the ball on Collins. that’s a Tech

Wabe

December 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

How bout some DEF from Collins downlow on Shaq?!?!

Can’t be so sloppy running. Gotta maximize posessions on the offensive end.

vava74

December 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

Dang! I was posting on the wrong blog!

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

here we go again… 4th qrt all over again…

PG… needed…

i thought they werent going to call that him throwing the ball at Big Pawlky…

welikebaseball2

December 30th, 2009
7:47 pm

Great sub by Woodson to give Collins a shot at Shaq. Well, there’s my one compliment to Woodson for the season!

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:47 pm

need a PG Woodson… making shots… but it looks bad…

vava74

December 30th, 2009
7:48 pm

nice work by Collins!

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:48 pm

good foul…

leedsatlanta

December 30th, 2009
7:48 pm

lol collins banging up shaq, rejecting shots get those hard fouls in!!!!

terrell barron

December 30th, 2009
7:50 pm

Good minutes by Collins!

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

December 30th, 2009
7:50 pm

welikebaseball2…I’ve been saying it for the longest…….
Woodson isnt doing anything but word puzzles or playing tic tac toe on those drawing boards

but that Collins sub is great…nice knowin we have lane clogger on the floor…

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

Good thing ZaZa has two fouls or Collins would not have to wash his uniform for the next game. I guess Bibby, Mo and Jamal have to foul out in order for Teague to play….

vava74

December 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

Shaq thought that he going against a dead piece of wood and got three possessions rejected by Collins, got a questionable call, an easy lay up and now back to the line.

More than acceptable defensive record for Collins!

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

December 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

ah man….Tyrone Hill….proof God has a sense of humor.

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

bring Bibby back… and im pleased.. when lebron comes back.. marvin comes back… straight up.. defense is your assignment tonight…

Joe Smith love what he brings…

we have the talent just have to manage it…

vava74

December 30th, 2009
7:52 pm

Collins also got an offensive rebound and assist!

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

December 30th, 2009
7:53 pm

wdf@sportssouth

terrell barron

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

Joe ball hoggin.

MyView

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

I never blog during games, but I am glad Woody realized why we aquired a big man like Collins. Look at the difference he makes against Shaq. Now I will go back into normal game mode.

Season Ticket Holder

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

Good to see Collins in the game… played some quality time and gave some good defense against Shaq. It only took a third of the season, but I guess better late than never.

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

get Marvin in this game… and a PG…

Wabe

December 30th, 2009
7:56 pm

Think this is a good time to get Marvin back in the game…

Keep Marvin on LBJ and keep rotating different guys onto West/Williams int he backcourt.

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:56 pm

pff… Joe is balling… geesh.. is he not supposed to get his touches… thats why he fell off the planet last night… and never asserted himself again…

Big Ray

December 30th, 2009
7:58 pm

Whoooeeee! I love what the Hawks are doing right now!

Ball movement, good decisions, and the strategic use of Jason Collins and Joe Smith, which has proven INVALUABLE.

The Hawks look good out there, and it looks like Woody has embraced the idea of actually adjusting!

We’re even winning in spite of the usual bogus foul calls (or non-calls for that matter).

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:59 pm

NO PG !! GET A PG IN THE GAME

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
7:59 pm

yessir Joe…

ball out on they ass!!!

vava74

December 30th, 2009
8:00 pm

travelling by Lebron…

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:01 pm

BBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

These Refs make we sick with these Touch fouls for Lebron… Im glad to see Josh get a tech. Show some emotion…

Wabe

December 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

Being way too sloppy with that ball. Gotta maximize possessions and quit sending them to the line.

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

why does Woodson like Crawford at PG????

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

Clean blocks for Joe and AL….

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

now Josh is just being stupid by continuing to talk…

vava74

December 30th, 2009
8:04 pm

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:04 pm

Yes sir… Hawks playing with some Heart tonight…

Wabe

December 30th, 2009
8:04 pm

Lets go!!!!!!!!!

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:04 pm

somebody on the Hawks needs to play Lebron James and scream, “LET HIM SHOOT” when Moon fires…

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

bigdave,

Josh was just pleading his case to the refs. Nothing malice…

JeJe

December 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

Looking good Looking good!

I understand Smoove’s tech. Varejao was all up on him, just like he always does — always pissing ppl off on the court. So great to see Collins out there. He has to be one of the most mammoth players in this league

Gotta come out of halftime with energy and let NO COMEBACKS happen

GO HAWKS

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

i love it coach…

if you gonna go at Bibby you gonna have to go at him with Moon….

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:06 pm

Cavs dont have to make shots. Their last 5 or 6 pts has come from the free throw lane…. Freaking refs.

JeJe

December 30th, 2009
8:06 pm

Man, watching LeBron travel to the moon out there. The guy took like 4 steps and double dribbled on one play

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:06 pm

Melvin i know…

but you know they not gonna hear it from Josh… he was running down the floor talking after he came back in….

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:07 pm

pump them… yessir…

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:08 pm

thats fine… make Lebron score 80 if he has to…

BIIBBBBBBBBBBBY

bigdave

December 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Big Polky with the screen buddy… you been screened when he lays into you… believe that.

JeJe

December 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Cmon Marv, don’t get LeBron room to shoot! ugh

Wabe

December 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Looking good. Gotta tighten up that D a bit though. Can’t keep letting Lebron spot up top of the key for wide open jumpers. Cavs doing a good job setting screens to free him up.

JeJe

December 30th, 2009
8:10 pm

Let Collins get his minutes. Cmon, where the hell was this guy last night?

Melvin

December 30th, 2009
8:10 pm

bigdave,

I rather see Lebron score 80 than get a triple double… I think the Cavs are at their best when everyone is involve…. So I dont mind if they go into Iso-LBJ for the rest of the game…