Denver – This is a little later than promised (something the editors at my paper have heard more than a few times from me). I thought there’d be Internet access on the plane, but there was not. (I’ve since landed, and am now at a little table finishing up, before going to get my car.)
Anyway, my thoughts on Minnesota.
As I watched the game in the estimable company of Hawks sideline reporter James Verrett and Hawks PR man Arthur Triche, my impression was that the game was a little raggedy, that the Hawks weren’t really sharp and no one, save Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford, played all that well. Minnesota was getting open looks at the basket and had more energy.

The man the Hawks call "Big Country"
But, looking at the box score, and certainly the final score, it would certainly indicate that the Hawks dominated. The Hawks shot 48.9 percent and held Minnnesota to 41.1 and forced 22 turnovers. They were 9 for 20 from 3-point range and assisted on more than half of their baskets (22 of 43). They only turned the ball over 10 times.
So it made me wonder if I’ve come to judge this team with an overly critical eye, or if I was focused on how many fouls the Hawks took (29, their second-highest total of the season) and their free-throw shooting (17 for 25), or if the Hawks actually didn’t play all that great but still managed to deliver a 26-point beatdown, which is the Timberwolves second-worst loss of the year, which, given that it’s the Timberwolves, is saying something.
Anyway, old news. Onto the Nuggets. Don’t know what you remember from last time, but a refresher. The Hawks were coming back to Philips after the West Coast trip that ended with the blowout loss to Charlotte. It was the second night of a back-to-back, while Denver was in Atlanta for a day or two. To that point, it was their biggest win of the season, I’d argue, a 125-100 win. The Hawks shot 54.5 percent from the floor and outrebounded Denver 44-36. Interestingly, the Nuggets shot 41 free throws, making 36, both season highs for Hawks opponents. The Hawks took 33 fouls, a season high.
For what it’s worth, when I did my story about what statistics Mike Woodson and Rick Sund use, I found a story online about how the Nuggets director of qualitative analysis – can you imagine Red Auerbach having one of those? – was helping the team. George Karl sounded what gave like begrudging credit to him for helping shape the strategy to “winning the free-throw line.”

You'd think a diagram on free-throw shooting form wouldn't have the off hand placed under the ball. Nice kicks, though.
Using stats through Monday, Denver was averaging 32.7 free throws per game, far and away best in the league. The second-best team was Orlando at 28.3. The gap between Denver and Orlando was about the same as the one between Orlando and the No. 20 team in the league. (The Hawks were at 23.6)
Getting to the line, as I imagine Karl himself would say, is only part of the equation. Some of the teams close to the top are Charlotte, Washington and Toronto.
Digression alert: In the pursuit of my own quantitative analysis, I just looked at how the division leaders ranked in a number of statistics in search of “What do all good teams do?” Leaving out point differential, my parameters were to find which statistic has the most division leaders in the top 10.
Two had five of the division leaders – opponents points per game and opponents field goal percentage. Perhaps you might have guessed it.
Opponents PPG top 10 – Boston, Portland, Charlotte, Cleveland, Lakers, Detroit, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Dallas, San Antonio. (Hawks are 11)
Opponents FG pct. top 10 – Lakers, Cleveland, Boston, Dallas, Portland, Indiana, Orlando, Oklahoma City, Charlotte, Chicago. (Hawks are 18) (I guess there is a reason Mike Woodson talks about this all the time. I think it’s his favorite statistic. He wants the team to get to 43, 44 percent. Before Minnesota, the Hawks were 45.9.)
end digression
Back to Denver: The thing that I remember most about that game (it was the first game I covered in place of Sekou) was Josh Smith’s block of Chris Andersen, and how he was just all over the floor – 22 points, nine rebounds, seven assists, six blocks and one turnover. Also, Denver was without Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith. The Nuggets should have them in the lineup, but might not have Chauncey Billups. He was limited in practice Monday and is unsure if he’ll be able to return against the Hawks. That, obviously, is significant.
For what it’s worth, Martin averaged 14.5 points and five rebounds, shooting 56.5 percent from the floor in two games last year against the Hawks.
Two nba.com links on your favorite coach (I guess I’m being literal for some, sarcastic for others).
Woodson as early coach of the year candidate.
Denver Post Nuggets beat writer Ben Hochman reports that Karl, who, along with Woodson and Phil Jackson are the only three coaches in the league (I think) on the last year of their contracts (and Jackson is not at all in the same category as Woodson and Karl because Jackson can just say the word and he can come back) has been offered a three-year extension worth $11 million.

On its way to George Karl's house.
Hawks as role models for the Timberwolves, according to the Star-Tribune.
Dime magazine weighs in on if the Hawks can win a championship.
Don’t know if you saw it, but my story on the Hawks’ leading the league in fewest turnovers. I saw Woodson reading it yesterday before the game. That was kind of a weird experience. Part of me wanted to see what he had to say, but, I suppose, another part of me didn’t. I left.
338 comments Add your comment
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:34 pm
THATS A NO CALL IN THE PLAYOFFS
Reggie (The Bird and Indian)
December 23rd, 2009
10:34 pm
Darn that Horford for not guarding J.R. Smith
Melvin
December 23rd, 2009
10:34 pm
Horford is killing Denver PF Nene…
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:35 pm
This game shows how pathetic Woodson’s trust is.
WHEN THE GAMES ARE CLOSE, HE DOES NOT USE HIS BENCH. CRAWFORD HARDLY COUNTS AS BENCH AS HE IS OUR 6TH STARTER .LOL AT ZAZA GETTING CRAP MINUTES, TEAGUE NOT PLAYING
WHAT A JOKE
WOODSON DOES NOT TRUST THE BENCH UNLESS IT’S A 20 POITN BLOWOUT
GO AHEAD RAY. POINT OUT SOME LITTLE MINUTE IRRELEVANT FALLACY IN THIS POST. I AM INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT I SAID WRONG
BUT I AM RIGHT HERE. WOODSON DOES NOT TRUST THE BENCH. IT WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THIS TEAM COME APRIL
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:36 pm
Someone give Woody the heads-up that this is what happens when you actually allow a rookie PG to develop.
Wabe
December 23rd, 2009
10:36 pm
Can’t keep swapping baskets. Gotta get stops on the defensive end if we wanna cut into this lead.
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:38 pm
TEAGUE LOOKS BETTER ON THE BENCH
Melvin
December 23rd, 2009
10:39 pm
The Hawks just doesnt have it tonight….
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:40 pm
KNOCK THE BALL FROM AL AND FAST BREAK THE OTHER WAY. NOW AL LOSES THE BALL OUT OF BOUNCE AND NOW BIRD DUNKS OVER ALL FIRST WE WERE DOWN 12 NOW WERE DOWN WHAT? 18 22?
GOOD DEFENSE
Reggie (The Bird and Indian)
December 23rd, 2009
10:42 pm
He’s too trigger happy!
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:43 pm
THEY ARE MORE PHYSICAL THAN US. WE NEED AN ENFORCER
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:43 pm
northcyde: Huh? So let me get this straight, we’re not true fans because we’re frustrated with the Hawks’ lackluster effort? We’re supposed to be okay with the squad being down 12, as long as it’s to certain squads? Serious?
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:43 pm
i know Joe wanted to crack up when Mo knocked over the candy… threw a tantrum like a little girl…
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:44 pm
KILLING US IN THE MIDDLE
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 23rd, 2009
10:44 pm
WTF is right….we need a physical presence down low.
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:45 pm
double foul… wow…
Melvin
December 23rd, 2009
10:45 pm
Look how comfortable Lawson looks on the floor vs Teague. I wonder why???
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:45 pm
AL ACTS LIKE A B!TCH. HE SHOULD HAVE BODY SLAMMED CARMELO SOFT AZZ
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:46 pm
We’ve given up 85 points with over 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter left to play? Wow.
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:47 pm
NENE GETS A ROUND OF APPLAUSE?
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:47 pm
Great game Bibby!
Besides not being able to run fast or create offense for yourself, you’ve given up 14 points to Lawson, 1-6 shooting, and 2 points. What a great player!
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:47 pm
Excuse those typos in my last post! LOL! “…over 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.” is what I meant.
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:48 pm
YEAH SHUT UP NIQUE
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:48 pm
swing on em’ Joe…
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:48 pm
1) Woodson does not use the bench in close games (any game besides any good team or any road game)
2) No one on the Hawks is capable of or commits hard fouls
3) This is bullsh!t
Hey Ken, where are you? Are you even at the game?
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:49 pm
(*any game against any good….)
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:50 pm
z!
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:50 pm
they calling some shyt tonight they havent called all year…
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:52 pm
flex on they ass Big Al…!!! shiyt!!!
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:52 pm
I GUESS THIS GAME IS ALREADY DECIDED. REFS MUST LIVE IN DENVER
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
Mello is getting the Lebron treatment..
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
I think a “presence down low” is the least of our worries right now. Our pathetic perimeter defense is the problem. Don’t know if it’s blown assignments or what, but we’ve given up way too many open jumpers. We’ve actually held our own in the paint this season.
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
ON SECOND THOUGHT BIBBY HAD NO WHERE TO GO.
Melvin
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
bigdave i saw the flex as well…
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
GOOD D
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:53 pm
pff…
it would be a trip if this game ends up going down like last year..
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:54 pm
traveled after they fouled him!
Melvin
December 23rd, 2009
10:54 pm
Why didnt they call a foul b/c AC grab Crawford arm…
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:54 pm
I laugh when people say Josh Smith should be an All-Star. Do people really want to see this guy’s pitiful post moves and dreadful free throw shooting on a national stage in front of the whole world?
I don’t
Jamal Crawford is the real all-star of this team
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:55 pm
DOWN TEN PLEASE DONT PUT TEAGUE IN- LOL
Sautee
December 23rd, 2009
10:55 pm
Horford with his 14th double-double of the season in game 28. Last season he had 20 in 69 games. Yet there are some who think he has “peaked” at age 23.
Big Ray
December 23rd, 2009
10:55 pm
Big Al looks good. I can see him averaging 15 and 10 for the year.
In the meantime, I sure wish we could get closer than 10 points.
welikebaseball2
December 23rd, 2009
10:56 pm
Way too many points allowed. Can’t expect to win on the road giving up 90-something points in the 1st 3 quarters. Can’t expect to win the 2nd of a back-to-back without using your bench either!
Big Ray
December 23rd, 2009
10:56 pm
Sautee ,
Weakest 18 and 10 I’ve ever seen, LOL.
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:56 pm
4 point play dammit…
WTF
December 23rd, 2009
10:57 pm
WE AINT PHYSICAL ENOUGH
JeJe
December 23rd, 2009
10:57 pm
WOODSON USE THE DAMN BENCH.
MY GOODNESS
Big Ray
December 23rd, 2009
10:57 pm
Jamal is the leading scorer in this game, I’ll give him that. Love the way he brings that offense.
However, he is no less guilty than Bibby or JJ of letting Lawson and JR Smith run all over them. All-star? Not likely. Love the guy, but there’s also a reason why he’s never made the all-star team.
Blast
December 23rd, 2009
10:58 pm
Refs straight up killing us, man!
bigdave
December 23rd, 2009
10:58 pm
J R is a fool… why are we taking dumb shots?