Hello, Hawks fans-
Hope you are all well. A few things.
1) Joe Smith won’t be making the trip to Toronto. He’ll stay home for treatment, and Othello Hunter will be activated in his place. It’s possible Smith could play Sunday against New Jersey, but it would seem like that’d be an outside shot, perhaps somewhat dependent on what Hunter does against Toronto. Mike Woodson said Marvin Williams could be an option at 4 behind Al Horford if he doesn’t get what he wants from Hunter.
Smith had his hand in a wrap Thursday. He said the thumb was very sore.
2) A quick thought on Wednesday’s game:
They got a lot of help from the Bulls (Kirk Hinrich, playing after missing the last six games with a sprained thumb, missed all nine of his shots) but the Hawks played pretty tough defense for the second game in a row. They held Dallas and Chicago under 40 percent shooting and, if the fourth quarter hadn’t turned into an AAU game between the backups, they would have held both teams to their season lows for points.
I asked Joe Johnson if this was a turning point, defensively, for the team.
“I don’t know,” he said. “I hope so. We’ve been pretty good.”
3.) I think someone might have posted this already, but the Hawks reportedly lost $2 million last season, according to Forbes magazine. The report also said that the team is worth $306 million, which is 21st in the league.
4) To move along one of our favorite topics, Marvin Williams. Woodson on No. 24, from before Wednesday’s game:
“He’s still young. … When we got him, he was only 18, 19 years old. (He was 19 on opening night) He played on a national title team and played 20 minutes a game. He hasn’t played much ball is kind of how I look at it. He’s still learning.”
439 comments Add your comment
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:06 pm
thats all he needs… a floater, pull up, and a lay up high off the glass…
BONE
December 11th, 2009
9:06 pm
See Woody this is what happens when you let a rookie actually play.
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:06 pm
Lascho,
Like Doc would say, just scroll until you see something worth commenting on…
terrell barron
December 11th, 2009
9:07 pm
I think we’ve found our pg.
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:08 pm
If yall think Nique is bad, you should hear the Raps crew. Just terrible. No b-ball knowledge at all…
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:09 pm
big dave,
I think Teague has all those skills and more….
Lacsho
December 11th, 2009
9:11 pm
Bigdave- I agree, the kid is nice.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 11th, 2009
9:11 pm
He missed but that boy can get to that d-a-mn rim!!!
Ken Sugiura
December 11th, 2009
9:11 pm
Raptors’ lowest total at home this year is 94.
Boy
December 11th, 2009
9:11 pm
Raptors playing better D tonight.
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:11 pm
Melvin… i dunno…
but he will… im sure he’ll get tired of getting his layup attempts blocked…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
Teague! Breaking ankles!
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
lol….crunk
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
My goodness Jeff Teague is putting on a show…
Wabe
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
Teague!!!!!!
BONE
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
Teague>>>>>>>>Any PG we’ve had in awhile
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm
he might have them in his arsenal but he needs to learn when to go them… thats why i said countless times, when he learns to use the high glass he’ll be dangerous…
vava74
December 11th, 2009
9:13 pm
this kid is dynamite!!!!
but hold your horses on the starting job talk… more minutes? yes, starting job? too early!
Blast
December 11th, 2009
9:13 pm
Teaguer is the Truth!
The Hawksta
December 11th, 2009
9:13 pm
Teague is using these dudes! This is probably what he does to Bibby every practice!
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:14 pm
* “when to go to them”
terrell barron
December 11th, 2009
9:14 pm
Shouldn’t have to worry about Teague gettin minutes anymore.
BONE
December 11th, 2009
9:14 pm
Naw if Bibby isn’t hitting shots he’s completely irrelevant.
JB
December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm
“They are at least somewhat competitive without their overpaid, soft Europeans (as in players from Europe, not white people, so get off your racial high horse) on the floor.”
I like how you put a disclaimer there to show your not racist only to expose it. Some of the toughest players in the NBA are Euros and maybe of the softest are Americans who only look or act like they’re tough.
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm
i wanna see Othello work… ive seen Randolph’s improvements… lets see what Sekou was raving about… he said Thello was the most improved..
Wabe
December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm
Again…quick hands.
BONE
December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm
Jason STEAKS Collins lol
JB
December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm
Meant to say “many of”…
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:16 pm
man.. get the ball out of his hands…
give it to Randolph or Thello
Lacsho
December 11th, 2009
9:17 pm
Ok, I’m feeling rather nice (Hawks + Drinky drank). Then I continue to watch Teague prove his case. Again, props to woodrow (aka bwaf, peace to manny Mr. T).
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 11th, 2009
9:17 pm
Bibby and Marvin should both just be role players to come off the bench that can offer you a decent-to-good jumper (and a lil D in Marvin’s case)
I think Teague and Mo Evans would produce more than them if given the minutes….
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 11th, 2009
9:18 pm
LMFAO…RANDMOOOO
Samuel
December 11th, 2009
9:18 pm
Yea,
Teague looks good but don’t get it twisted, Bibby and Co. built this lead. I hope Teague can do this against a team that actually plays defense so Bibby can get some rest. Good for him. Jason “Pigfoot” Collins in the game.
Woody=COY
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:18 pm
Calderon is a gritty player…
rms
December 11th, 2009
9:18 pm
LOL @ RandoMO!!
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:19 pm
LOL…. Randmo tried to reach back and dunk that one from New York…
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:20 pm
chalk up another on the road…
who is the guy in the turban? always at the Raps games… wasnt he in the ‘Welcome to Atlanta’ video at Walter’s?
Blast
December 11th, 2009
9:20 pm
Hawks taking major scalp on the road right here.
Pile up the wins!
Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 11th, 2009
9:21 pm
“like how you put a disclaimer there to show your not racist only to expose it. Some of the toughest players in the NBA are Euros and maybe of the softest are Americans who only look or act like they’re tough.”
1. Dirk
2. Zaza
Who else?
The reason I put the disclaimer on there is because I think the majority of white American players — David Lee, Kirk Hinrich, Chris Kaman, etc. — get unfairly stereotyped as being soft or unathletic because of the large numbers of Euroleague players in the NBA who just want to stand around and shoot 3’s all day and who refuse to play physical defense.
It is the European style of play, not genetics, that causes this. Obviously there are going to be exceptions to any rule, and nowhere did I say all American players are tough, but by and large there’s a huge dropoff in that department from American players to Euros.
JB
December 11th, 2009
9:21 pm
I don’t get this whole Woody debate. We’re a great team because its built very well and our core group is a perfect fit. Don’t forget that this same team was frustrating the hell out of us the last two years. Let’s give credit to Josh for upping his game and Sund and Knight for adding Bibby and Crawford. I don’t think this team lives and dies by Woody like some of you think.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
December 11th, 2009
9:23 pm
Randmo tried to Sportscenter top 10 Bosh and got that sh*t sent to Windsor, Ontario.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 11th, 2009
9:24 pm
Yeah, I’m not ready to hand Teague the starting job yet (after all these are the Raptors and it is garbage time) but I think with every game he’s showing he deserves 20 minutes per game. Bibby does a lot of intangible things like setting screens and throwing accurate passes that don’t show up in box scores but that keep the offense moving efficiently, and Teague hasn’t proven he can do those things on a regular basis. But between Joe Johnson, Bibby, Crawford, and Teague, I don’t think there’s a better and deeper backcourt in the league.
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:25 pm
Mac,
I dont know where Windsor located but I dang sho know that Bosh block that dunk out of the building…lol
Lacsho
December 11th, 2009
9:26 pm
Can’t believe I’m saying this (choking), Good job ASG for keeping this core together. If we could get chillz on this team, it would be a wrap.
And I’m gone!!!
Lacsho
December 11th, 2009
9:28 pm
Mack- LMAO!!!!!
bigdave
December 11th, 2009
9:28 pm
i think that its vital that our 2nd unit continues to defend well… lots of games are won and lost by 2nd unit contributions…
cp
December 11th, 2009
9:29 pm
This is the reason many of us have been calling for Teague to get more minutes. The kid is good at setting up his teammates, quick hands no defense, and can get to the rim at will. Like it has been said before, once he gets a floater he is going to be a problem… Actually the starters were not doing much it was the bench who took over the game in my opinion. The bench had more players in double figures than the starters.
cp
December 11th, 2009
9:31 pm
That should be quick hands on defense. And he has those long arms that disrupts a lot of passes.
O'Brien
December 11th, 2009
9:32 pm
I think Teague deserves at least 10-14 minutes every game, regardless of the team that we’re playing. He should get lots of minutes against the Nets on Sunday.
Cleveland down by 8 at home to Portland. And lets hope Orlando loses in Phoenix.
Great win Hawks and Woody
Melvin
December 11th, 2009
9:32 pm
Lascho,
I also wonder what this team would look like if we could add Chills.