Post Dallas

Greetings, all-

Hope you enjoyed the game Saturday night.

My thoughts:

- No matter how the Hawks shot the ball, holding Dallas to 75 points in its building is an impressive feat. It’s Dallas’ season low.

- As I made mention in the game story, the Hawks played far better defense than they did against New York and perhaps their best in awhile. Dallas had their runs, but didn’t get that many easy baskets.

- Dirk Nowitzki is ridiculous.

- The Hawks, at times, moved the ball really well to get open shots. But it went stagnant at times – a decent number of possessions where one or two players touched the ball, or players jacking up jump shots early in the shot clock when better shots could have been worked for. They had 16 assists on 32 baskets, an OK number.

- Love him or hate him, Joe Johnson did what he does best, make a lot of baskets, many of them crucial. He took 24 shots to make 31 points.

Some extra quotes:

Mike Woodson: “[Joe Johnson] got off to such a hot start and then we hit the spell in the second quarter where we just couldn’t make a shot. We had some good looks, but to come in (at halftime) up one (was a good thing).”

On the first 20 games: “It’s been a good run. Our schedule was not favorable to start the season and we withstood it. We’ve just got to continue our winning ways on the road and continue our ways at home in terms of winning.”

Joe Smith, on energy level: “It was good, from start to finish. We came out first half, did a good job of building that lead. Unfortunately, we didn’t close out the first half in the way that we would like but I think in the second half we did a good job of getting back to what got us that lead, and we were able to maintain it the rest of the game. The energy was good and our aggressiveness was good.”

Joe Johnson, on Dallas going small: “I think it played a little bit to our advantage, playing small ball with me, Mike and Jamal in the game. I think it’s kind of a win-win for us. Tonight, I think we played pretty good defense. We made shots when we needed to. We got stops down the stretch when we needed to and we pretty much opened it up. We played like we had been earlier in the season.

A couple links:

My updated story with quotes. Jamal Crawford: “If you asked people, they probably would have thought we’d win [Friday] night and lose [Saturday]. It flip-flopped. The league is funny like that sometimes.”

“Great defense and even better offense,” Shawn Marion said of either the Hawks or Joe Johnson in the Dallas Morning News game story.

You may have seen this, but Toronto guard and former Georgia Tech star Jarrett Jack stopped during a game to tie his shoes while holding the ball. I’m not sure what’s worse, that he did it, or that the Bulls let him.

Game story from nba.com.

This is neither here nor there, but former Nebraska football coach Tom Osborne was on my plane from Dallas to Atlanta. I walked past him and knew I recognized him, but didn’t know who it was until someone who was on our plane walked by him after we got off and said, “Safe travels, Coach.”

I suppose you can take away my sports writer card for not recognizing him (there are plenty of other offenses to add to the list). The kind of funny thing is that he and his wife sat in coach. I asked him a couple questions in case our Tech writer could use it. He was cooperative.

218 comments Add your comment

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
12:41 pm

Am I first? Shout out to MV7!! Congrats on the come back.

Saint Richt

December 6th, 2009
12:42 pm

Fire Mike Woodson……………..

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
12:54 pm

Ken Sugiura
Hey Ken, in case no one else has said it, Thanks for stepping up and giving us something to address.

Post Dallas?

Good win, Its a long season. This team is still evolving. It has great character and good unity. Dont let Ken Strickland near them or all hell will break loose. The hate will begin!

Shout out to HC Mike Woodson. Keep up the good work! Way to work the game to game grind. Dont let them get too up or down, and what ever you do ,don’t let the loud negative few, disrupt the beauty and hard work this team is displaying. You guys are doing a great job! Maybe now Sund will find a way to get a real center for you to work the in and out game to perfection. Sund did a great job in Dallas, They have peaked and we are on our way up. We are equal to or better than Dallas now and a center away from competing for a title. This team has great chemistry.

Good Job Woodson and Hawks.

Melvin

December 6th, 2009
12:57 pm

Not pretty but it was a good win in Dallas last night… Hats off to the team…

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
1:00 pm

“You may have seen this, but Toronto guard and former Georgia Tech star Jarrett Jack stopped during a game to tie his shoes while holding the ball. I’m not sure what’s worse, that he did it, or that the Bulls let him.”

Says a lot about those two teams and where they are headed. How much are those guys making? Not one should be a Hawks. What the ‘be nice’ were they thinking?

Ken Strickland

December 6th, 2009
1:11 pm

TRUTH SERUM. Cosign with you on the MVICK shoutout! Continue turning negatives into positives, it sends a good message.

Wow, where were you and all of this love, support and accolades for MWoodson and the team when he completely self destructed with his irratic and uneven coaching in that embarrassing loss to the Knicks?

SAUTEE-FROM THE LAST BLOG. Man, I’d love to meet and have a conversation with you. Absolutely no one recognizes and exposes the hyprocricy and contradictions that’s rather common place among some of our lessor evolved fans better than you my friend.

The micro manager

December 6th, 2009
1:24 pm

Actually I think we should stop and analyze the season in 20 second increments. If he is losing in a 20 second time frame we can fire him and get the next coach in before the time out in over. Forget about a 82 games season and 4 or 5 game streaks, lets analyze every 20 seconds. Good Idea Ken Strickland, get Bob Weiss on the phone and tell him to be on stand by at the next game. – How far under .500 pct is he any way?

The micro manager

December 6th, 2009
1:25 pm

*is over
a 82 game season

Lou Hudson

December 6th, 2009
1:38 pm

I must commend you on this post ” Hawks real fan.”
Hawks real fan.

December 6th, 2009
12:00 am

You know ken, I thought I d list the hundreds of post that have ask you to STFU this year, and I thought I’d mention how many hawks fans have went elsewhere to appreciate the hawks season rather than continue to accept you and your few loud vocal Bubba Crew members who ignore facts and perpetuate your agenda of getting Woodson fired. Then I realize you can’t help yourself at this stage of your sickness.

The enjoyment of the season gets lost in your agenda of attacking Woodson relentlessly and you ask “why do none of the Woodson supporters answer you?”

Most of them are hawks fans and understand basketball, something you are nor and do not. You continue to argue the same tired point over, and over, and over again.Points that have no merit in the grand scheme of things.Like Ken Sugiura previous article “Move on”, there’s a message there if you can hear it.

You ask “why do none of the Woodson supporters answer you?”

Most of them are productive citizens in the community and have more important contributions to make than to address your maladjusted behavior and ignorant rants. That’s why you are likened to Rush Limbaugh. We have jobs, careers, families and communities where we are involved.

THE REASON’S MANY HAWK’S FANS DON’T RESPOND TO YOU?

Woodson has done, and is doing a fine job, so there is no need to respond.
The hawks are right where the experts said they would be. In fourth seed and will win between 47-51 games. Why should we ignore what the experts are saying and give your angry regurgitations more merit?
Although you and the bubba crew may have deceived Ken Sugiura into thinking your views are indicative of a synopsis of this blogs views what he doesn’t know is that most sane and legitimate Hawks fans have left realizing that you and your gang of thugs, have one mission in mind.
Like most of the guys I will go back to ignoring you and your posse, some of which are fictional characters you’ve created.
You have stolen a lot of joy out of this season already. It’s been a good season so far but you can’t tell listening to your negative mouth. In the last week countless people have ask you both gently and harshly to shut up.
You are unable to neither receive correction nor accept that you are wrong, so why bother?
You ask “why do none of the Woodson supporters answer you?”
Perhaps you should ask a psychiatrist

Big Ray

December 6th, 2009
1:45 pm

Win on the road against a good team while shooting 36% from the field and 63% from the line? Ugly though it be, I’ll take that, along with the 6-4 road record.

Joe Smith came up big, which begs the question of his absence in the game against New York, particularly after Smith was ejected. Mayhaps we can find a smidgen more playing time for him, especially in such occasions?

Have to echo MannyT in appreciating Marvin’s effort on the boards, what with him shooting as badly as anybody else. Couldn’t have won the rebounding battle or the game without him.

Nobody was bigger than JJ, who outshot anybody of consequence in the entire game, and led a team that couldn’t buy a basket otherwise, to victory.

In other news….

Greg Oden is clearly cursed. Out for the season. Again. Ouch. WWTBD? (What Will The Blazers Do)
Wonder if Kevin Pritchard ever thinks about Kevin Durant on quiet evenings, over Crown and Coke? Maybe Ron Artest isn’t the only one who drinks at halftime…

Big Ray

December 6th, 2009
1:47 pm

Congrats to Mike Vick on making it back to the NFL.

No congrats to Andy Reid for giving him exactly three or four ineffective touches per game.

But, I’m a diehard Falcons fan so…..I hope he only gets three or four ineffective plays against us and we finally beat Philly, something we had trouble doing while he was here.

But good luck to him during any OTHER Philly games. :)

RLP

December 6th, 2009
1:48 pm

KEN STRICKLAND:

I got your message from the last thread. Appreciate the kudos. I have no problems whatsoever in discussing the coaching strengths and weaknesses of Woody which you engage in. Most of your criticisms have merit. When you stay on target and discuss those criticisms I could not criticize anything about your posts. I do think it is counter productive when you engage in some of your other tactics such as calling out others as dumb or stupid etc. The people on this blog do not need you to point out when a posting is dumb or stupid. They can figure it out for themselves. Actually based on the reaction of some to criticism of their postings I wonder how in the world they would ever be able to handle all of the criticisms enduring by those in the coaching profession. I am sure most coaches tune out things such as this blog. I guess my biggest peeve would be those who criticize kids in college. That is one reason I love watching pro sports where the athletes are being paid to perform. Why someone would ever criticize a teenage football player is beyond my comprehension.

So anyway keep up your postings. Your viewpoint is appreciated – at least most of the time.

TRUTH-SERUM:

I also appreciate your defenses of Woody. Every thing I wrote to Ken goes for you as well.

MZ. HAWKDAFIED:

I co-sign on your box of chocolates. I think you and I have similar viewpoints on this subject but your description was much more elegant then anything I would have ever have thought to write.

Bob Weiss

December 6th, 2009
1:55 pm

Lou Hudson, we are in the same boat.

BOB WEISS

December 6th, 2009
2:01 pm

I mean to say we are really in the same skull. We both obsess over the same person because we are hypocritical beyond all manner of rational thought. How can we talk about not responding to ken when that is all we do. We need to call a subcommittee of all our personalities and discuss this like rational people, er, person. We will have to vote on which personality gets to do all the posting under one name and the others have to stay quiet. I vote for truth serum because he makes the most sense. I like you lou hudson, but you have racial tendencies just like me and some of the others. We both have trouble talking just basketball. At least truth serum only complains about Al horford instead of other bloggers. Joe mama is okay but he gets wacked out too sometimes. At least people will talk to truth serum but they know the others are bat sh!t crazy so they get tired of them real fast. So when are we going to call the subcomittee of personalities. I’m hungry, and two of them have to take a sh!t. Can we hurry it up please.

KevinA

December 6th, 2009
2:16 pm

It was good to see the amount of 3 pt shots attempted down. 10 would be a better average that the 18 we average now. Looked like Woody was explaining to Crawford his displeasure on one of the 3 pt shots.

Woody also seems better at yanking players when they are cold, except for JJ of course. It was good to see JJ get back on track.

I thought those flagrant 1’s energized Josh. He played great after that. When he is not on track, we really struggle.

JeJe

December 6th, 2009
2:17 pm

lol MARVIN HAD 3 POINTS LAST NIGHT.

IN 36 MINUTES

BOB WEISS

December 6th, 2009
2:18 pm

Ken you can use my name to post confusion all you want, as long as you plug and play my name for the coaching vacancy when you get woodson fired, Have you talked to OJ lately? I hope he gets out soon to help me and you with our plan… I promise I’ll make you assistant coach just like you asked!

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
2:21 pm

ILL-logical

December 6th, 2009
2:22 pm

Mr.Sugiura,
Thanks for the new blog- the links are very helpful in getting some additiona; perspectives on the team and its performance. Hope that the new beat writer follows thas practice.
glad that the ajc management invested the resources to enable you to cover the game as well. A big deal in these times. Keep us posted.

ILL-logical

December 6th, 2009
2:23 pm

Mr.Sugiura,
Thanks for the new blog- the links are very helpful in getting some additional perspectives on the team and its performance. Hope that the new beat writer follows this practice.
Glad that the ajc management invested the resources to enable you to cover the game as well. A big deal in these times. Keep us posted

O'Brien

December 6th, 2009
3:02 pm

Thanks for the blog Ken.

Lose at home to the Knicks, beat Dallas in Dallas. The Hawks are so inconsistent, and its partly Woody’s fault. Sometimes we play uptempo, sometimes he utilizes his bench, sometimes the switching defense is minimized. I just hope we can become more consistent as the season goes on. It was a good win, but I didnt like the fact that JJ took 31 shots to get 24 points.

That being said, Hawks deserved the win, and I hope we can use it as a springboard to go on a nice winning streak again. Keep it going Hawks.

MyView

December 6th, 2009
3:40 pm

A win is a win. Especially a division leader on the road. I don’t care about the details, when the ultimate goal was accomplished.

Pretty good work Ken S.

Undisputed Champ!

December 6th, 2009
3:59 pm

Great game MV7!

KevinA

December 6th, 2009
4:00 pm

To follow on a theme when we struggle, even in wins, the bigs went 14-34 and the guards went 17-47. The main reason we pulled out the Dallas win was 20 extra shots from turnovers, rebounds etc.

The next 7 games are against teams with a worse record, a good time to make a move up the standings.

4 keys

Feed a big day, every game, better balance
Ball movement
Cut three pt. shots in half.
More up tempo offense

BOB WEISS

December 6th, 2009
4:11 pm

Mike Vick got to play against a rotten defense decimated by injuries. This is a triumphant return? I’ll tell you what a return is. When you can take the starting quarterback’s job and lead the team to victory. But that isnt going to happen because Vick isnt good enough to do it. He will return to the sideline for the rest of the season, getting his two plays a game just like it has been. The Eagles won the game before Vick ever even got in to play. They were just “throwing him a bone” pun intended, so he could look good for once this year after not letting his sorry azz play more than a snap or two every game. Vick used to be real good. Nowadasy he isnt. End of story. Eagles win because of mcNabb.

Stankonia

December 6th, 2009
4:14 pm

lol MARVIN HAD 3 POINTS LAST NIGHT.

IN 36 MINUTES

He had 15 rebounds too you idiot.

KevinA

December 6th, 2009
4:15 pm

Stankonia

December 6th, 2009
4:21 pm

So true, especially the part about J-J-J-J- Joooooooeeeee Johnson ball hog supreme and killer of pick and rolls

Stankonia

December 6th, 2009
4:22 pm

what a leader he is

Mychelfromatl

December 6th, 2009
5:17 pm

JeJe –

“lol MARVIN HAD 3 POINTS LAST NIGHT. IN 36 MINUTES”
____________________________________________________________

Dude, he also had a career rebounding night (including some crucial offensive boards). Marvin also played great defense all night. SMH at your slanted reporting…you must work for FOX News Network SMH.

Melvin

December 6th, 2009
5:34 pm

Shaq had 1 reb vs the Bucks today. My goodness, at his size and height. I think at least 2 rebs would fall in his hands without even blocking out…

Ken Strickland

December 6th, 2009
6:58 pm

RLP-When I use the words stupid and ignorant, I’m referencing a very select and limited number of individuals, and these fools know exactly who he/they are. Haven’t you noticed whenever I make a strong point and use those descriptive words, even though I don’t mention any names, we immediately get these retaliatory and often vulgar responses, like the ones above, from the same multiple names? And all of these names emanate from the same dilusional and extremely sick mind of the person commonly referred to as TRUTH SERUM. Also, I cosign on your stance concerning college athletes. That’s why I’ve never had an ounce of respect for Woodson’s college coach and mentor, Bobby Knight. It’s been proven you can win, and win big, on the college level without being a dehumanizing tyrant. That’s probably why the 2 best basketball players to ever enroll at Indiana U, IThomas and LBird, got the hell out of there early.

I’ve been heavily criticized for being very critical of Woodson’s shortcomings as the Hawks HC, and I admit that I’ve been critical of him for sometime now. Why, because I think it’s a sad and revealing comentary on the ability of any HC, that’s going into his 6th yr of coaching the same team, when fans are expected to praise him when he uses his bench, gives his young PG mins, calls a timeout to correct a veteran player, makes a strategic move or adjustment, or occasionally allows his team to play the style of OFF they’re best suited to play. Good qualified NBA HC’s do these things routinely, and we’re routinely expected to praise Woodson for doing them occasionally.

FORGIVE ME FOR HAVING MORE INTELLIGENCE AND INSIGHT TO CONTINUE FALLING FOR THAT CRAP.

MELVIN-Shaq had only one rebound, Wow? Our undersized, playing out of position center has never been that futile. That should send the message to the proponents of us getting a bigger taller so called true center, that it takes more than just size and height to get the job done at the center position, even for a future HOF center.

MWilliams was instramental in more than the 15 rebounds he captured. He knocked out several and contested several more that were eventually secured by a teammate. He was going after everything.

RLP

December 6th, 2009
7:54 pm

Sautee

December 6th, 2009
8:16 pm

Ken Strickland,

In the interest of fact checking…… Bird went to Indiana State.

That doesn’t mean you weren’t correct about Knight’s bullying. You were.

RLP

December 6th, 2009
8:32 pm

KEN STRICKLAND:

So do you continue to belief that the other people who read this blog but whom you are not addressing by these names are too ignorant or stupid to figure out exactly who you are talking about? I guess we should just agree to disagree on this point and go on to another topic.

From my standpoint I think each year is different and must be addressed based on what is going on in that particular year. This year the Hawks have acquired Jeff Teague, Joe Smith and Jamal Crawford who are significant components of this year’s team. As I pointed out earlier this team overall has performed (so far) at a franchise best level considering only their won and lost record. If you want to criticize all of Woody’s failures then you have to also give him some measure of praise for the team’s successes.

The team has won more games on the road than any other team during Woody’s tenure. They have had more significant wins against really good teams on the road than anytime in the near past. And yes they have failed to take care of business against some weaker opponents. I imagine it is very difficult to learn how to fit all of the teams features together easily especially when so many parts of that team are mixed up with new members. I would imagine that it has been especially hard for JJ since he has been the featured prime time player for so long. It is hard to change the role you have had for so long. I imagine it has been especially hard for Jamal Crawford coming to a new team and no longer being a featured offensive threat but instead being relegated to the role of sixth man and having a coach who is asking him to play defense. I imagine it has to be hard for Jeff Teague to come into the pro’s without knowing exactly what his status will be and how he will fit in. I imagine it must be hard for Marvin Williams to see his role diminished as JC gets more playing time at his expense. ZaZa has also seen his role change as he adjusts to Joe Smith getting some of the burn he would normally have received. Bibby’s role requires an adjustment with the arrival of JC also. About the only people who have not been adversely affected by the changing roles are Josh and Al. Both of them seem to have thrived with the arrival of the new personnel. So for all of the faults many perceive Woody having there are things going on with this team that does require a period of adjustment. And yet this team has shown a new level of maturity. Last year’s team did not adjust well to the injury to Josh and the loss in Boston that changed the perception of the team. This year’s team does seem to be doing a better job of handling adversity. Sure there have been a few bad games. The four game stretch that ended with the Knicks game is one example. But even here they won one game during that stretch that last year they would have surely lost. And before we forget the euphoria of the opening stretch how many of you remember that in some of those games the team would open very lackadaisical in the first half only to really tighten down the defensive hatches come the fourth quarter.

I continue to believe that this year’s team may have a chance to be very special. I am not claiming that they are an “Elite” team yet. I will claim that they are on the cusp of becoming an elite team. And you never know when lightening will strike in a bottle. Special years happen occasionally. So for all of you out there who come on this blog and only want to complain and gripe about JJ or Marvin or Woody or poor offensive execution remember that there are at least a few of us who are really more concerned about enjoying a team playing at times with great ball movement and a sense of joy and purpose. One that offers an emerging star in Josh and an undersized center with more heart than almost any player I can remember playing on this team. And if this team sets a franchise record for most wins who will appreciate it more? Those who spend the entire season complaining about the teams faults or those who take delights in its highlights?

ILL-logical

December 6th, 2009
8:37 pm

Sautee

December 6th, 2009
8:16 pm
Ken Strickland,

In the interest of fact checking…… Bird went to Indiana State.

Bird originally signed and attended IU but dropped out and returned home. After some time he enrolled at ISU.

Ken Strickland

December 6th, 2009
8:40 pm

SAUTEE-Before attending Indiana State, LBird enrolled at Indiana Univ, but promptly left after getting a taste of the real BKnight. He took a job collecting garbage when the Indiana State basketball coach saw him and persuaded him to come there and play for him. And the rest is history.

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
9:17 pm

RLP , Ill cosign it. Its my own sentiments it would be nice to enjoy the beauty of what the hawks have accomplished, and what they are accomplishing. We are their fans. When they win we win, win they lose we lose. We are part of the team, the sixth man in the stands. They have set such a good example of unity inspite of all those adversities you’ve mentioned and some you left off. Perhaps we can follow their leadership and unite with them as a team, weaknesses and strengths. Sure, Id like to see us strengthen the post. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think Al is giving all he can or isnt a great person. He is a blue collar guy and I would love to keep him right here on the hawks, Ive always said that. I also say that we need a starting center to enforce the post and Al is not the man for the Job. I’m not saying get rid of Al. I’m saying lets get what we need to crack the top three and become an elite team. No hate here.

Shout out to MV7!!!

Great Job and next year you will be back. I hope you get with a team that can use a top notch QB….Like Atlanta.

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
9:28 pm

Out side of ken and the bubba crew here is what others are saying about woodson, not to mention that he is still number # 2 on this years coach of the year poll. I think the negative view being regurgitated is the minority view mostly limited to this sites hate cell.

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Posted 14 November 2009 – 12:22 PM
Mike Woodson is the NBA Coach of the Year.

There are a variety of things that has brought this about:

- He coaches Joe Johnson like he’s a superstar, which in turn, brings out the max in the Hawks Captain. Yes, we all know that JJ doesn’t have the talent of the 4 or 5 superstars in this league, but Woody coaches him like he is. The offensive and defensive responsibilities he puts on JJ has made him a more dangerous player that other teams have to treat with superstar attention.

But more importantly, it has made him a more mentally tougher player. While the 3 point shot isn’t there so far this year, the Captain is grinding every night, doing all he can to lead his team to victory . . even rebounding the basketball. And on the defensive end, Woody doesn’t hesitate to put JJ on the other teams best perimeter player, to try to slow or shut him down.

Superstar responsibility = a more dangerous Joe Johnson.

- It is Woody that has told this team as a whole, to drive the basketball whenever they can. Josh Smith has most been affected by this mindset, seeing that he’s a highly efficient offensive player now. LOL . . let me say that again. Josh Smith is now a highly efficient offensive player. While Jamal Crawford loves his jumpshot, even he is driving the ball to the hole at a much higher rate than he ever has. This has led to his efficiency as a ballplayer increasing.

The Hawks are #1 in the NBA in points in the paint. Let me say that again as well. The Hawks are #1 in the NBA in points in the paint. This is a complete contrast to a team that used to live to jack up long jumpers. Even Captain Johnson has laid off the 22 footer, and looked to get in the painted area to take his shot.

- He has not succumbed to the pressure of playing Teague, ( a guy who simply might not be ready yet ), a lot of minutes off the bench. Because of veteran guards like Bibby,Crawford, and Mo Evans on the roster to compliment JJ, he isn’t forced to throw Teague right into the fire. He knows that he’ll need Teague before the season is over, but he isn’t going to force feed the kid either.

- He has managed the Hawks rotation as well as he ever has in his career. While not only succumbing to not forcing minutes for Teague, he has also coached games more sensibly. While having the ability to go 10 deep, he’s using his depth according to the opponent we play. He’s not feeling obligated to give guys a set number of nightly minutes. Instead, he’s dishing out the minutes ( especially in the 2nd half ), according to how the Hawks match up against the other team.

And when the fan base were calling for the reduction of Mike Bibby’s minutes, he stuck right with Bibby, and his numbers now reflect the shooting he exhibited last season in November, with Bibby shooting in the mid 40% FG and over 40% 3FG.

The most important move, is the use of the 3-guard lineup of Bibby, Crawford, and Johnson. He’s using this lineup as his 2nd half offensive catalyst and possible closing lineup. The 4th quarter dominance of the Hawks can directly be credited to this move. With JJ and Crawford being very good shot creators, and Bibby being a deadly 3 point shooter, it prevents teams from employing alot of double teams against the Hawks. He’s smart enough not to start this group though, because the 3 guards do tend to dominate the ball, which would lessen the touches of Josh Smith and Horford.

All in all, Woody ( at least for 3 weeks ), has been one of the best coaches in the league. Because of that, he gets my early vote for Coach of the Year.

Great job Woody.

You guys can find this on hawks squawk.

Truth-Serum

December 6th, 2009
9:29 pm

NOTHING LIKE A POSITIVE PRO HAWK ARTICLE.

Ken Strickland

December 6th, 2009
9:32 pm

RLP-you obviously didn’t know who I was talking about or you likely wouldn’t have made it an issue, and that certainly isn’t an indication of any lack of intelligence on your part.

I’ve given Woodson credit more than once for holding this team together, keeping them focused and playing hard during the early yrs when all of the distractions with he and former GM BKnight and ownership were at their peak. I’ve also given him credit for perservering during times when the talent level, experience and maturity were in short supply and player turnover rather high(although he was partly responsible for that). The magnitude of those contribution alone cannot be measured. However, we’re way past the point where turmoil, lack of talent, maturity and experience are issues.

Going into his 6th yr as HC, we’re at the point now where I expect this team to have an identity, an established style of play, and for him to have an idea of how to develop young players, manage players mins and effectively utilize a deep, talented, experienced, versatile and more than adequately stocked bench.

The positive contributions Woodson has made to the success of this team in the past, and it’s winning record, still can’t erase the inexplicable lack of strategy, adjustments, bench use, player development, OFF/DEF inconsistency and the long periods of feast and famine this team has been going through the last 2-3yrs. CERTAINLY NOT AFTER 6YRS AS HC.

I look at it like this. MELVIN informed us that Shaq, a former Allstar and future HOFer recently managed to get only 1 rebound . The fact that Shaq has led 2 teams to multiple NBA titles in his past doesn’t excuse the rebounding futility he’s going through now. GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR WHAT HE’S DONE IN THE PAST, BUT HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE’S NOT DOING TO HELP HIS TEAM NOW!

Pat Riley and PJackson have both won multiple NBA titles and both are sure fire HOFer’s. Yet, both were fired from the very teams they led to NBA titles. YOU DON’T HANG ON TO A COACH, NO MATTER WHAT HIS PAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE, IF HE’S NOT CURRENTLY DOING WHAT’S NECESSARY TO GET THE TEAM WHERE IT WANTS OR NEEDS TO BE. It appears that a number of Atlanta fans have low expectations for the team and the franchise, which is likely why we have such a sorry and uneven history of success. Well, I’m not one of them. Instead of settling, I’m going to demand more of the team and the HC, no matter who that HC might be.

darrell starks

December 6th, 2009
9:54 pm

KEN go check out the falcon blog man i cant believe how much racism still exist.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

December 6th, 2009
9:58 pm

I NO WE DISAGREE ALOT ON THE HAWKS BLOG BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE RESPECT ONE ANOTHER THATS WHY I LOVE THE HAWKS BLOG.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

Brain Farting at the idiot club.

December 6th, 2009
10:18 pm

“YOU DON’T HANG ON TO A COACH, NO MATTER WHAT HIS PAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE, IF HE’S NOT CURRENTLY DOING WHAT’S NECESSARY TO GET THE TEAM WHERE IT WANTS OR NEEDS TO BE.”

Atlanta Hawks 14 6 .700 2.0 7-4 2-2 8-2 6-4 6-4 W 1

almost all of the experts project the hawks to win 47-51 games and be seeded some where 4-7
current pace 57 games.

Brain Farting at the idiot club.

December 6th, 2009
10:20 pm

Creating a controversy where non exists is evil.

bigdave

December 6th, 2009
10:32 pm

darrell starks…

they had to shut it down… it was crazy..

the funny thing is how cowardly most of it was; hiding behind metaphors and drawing parallelism, instead of just saying what they wanted to say or how they really feel.

niremetal

December 6th, 2009
10:33 pm

Ray – agreed on JoeS. He’s probably the most versatile player we have on the bench, due in no small part to his high basketball IQ. Woody should find more minutes for him, and I’m somewhat surprised that he hasn’t already.

O’Brien – you got it backwards. JJ took 24 shots to get 31 points. That’s actually pretty damned efficient, especially for a backcourt player.

Sautee – great post on the last blog. As for your only one so far on this one, it looks like a couple others beat me to it :) . In the interest of further fact checking, though, I’ve never read anything (and I’ve read 1 bio of Bird plus his autobio) that indicated that Knight was even in the top 5 reasons that Bird left IU. The size of the campus, treatment of Kent Benson (a well-known jackass), and just general homesickness were the main reasons.

JeJe

December 6th, 2009
10:42 pm

Some thoughts:

Woodson should not be acclaimed for winning 50+ this year. He is only using 6 players MOSTLY in his rotation

second, someone was spot on the other night about Joe. Other ppl like Kobe and DW3 will have 17 going into the 4th and you’ll wonder “what the heck? I thought he had like 6.” When Joe scores 25 it’s because he took 20+ Shots

FIRE WOODSON. ANY COACH CAN WIN WITH A 6-7 MAN ROTATION IN THE REGULAR SEASON WITH THIS TEAM

JeJe

December 6th, 2009
10:48 pm

IF WE LOSE TO NJN NEXT SUNDAY, IT’S BECAUSE WOODSON WILL STUCK WITH OUR SUPERSTAR AL HORFORD ON BROOK LOPEZ, AND LOPEZ WILL DROP 30 AND 15 ON HIM.

WOODSON WILL REFUSE TO USE COLLINS OR ZAZA ENOUGH (OR AT ALL) AND WE WILL LOSE BECAUSE OF A BROOKS LOPEZ FIELD DAY. REFER BACK TO THIS COMMENT ON 12/6/09 AT 10:47 pm IN 7 DAYS TIME

Rod from College Park

December 6th, 2009
10:51 pm

JeJe

lol MARVIN HAD 3 POINTS LAST NIGHT.

IN 36 MINUTES

Agreed. Some of these clowns actually state because he had a good rebounding game he did a great job. Wow. We will see what they think when the playoffs start, and Joe is triple teamed, and the one guy (Marvin) who is left wide open, or guarded by guys 3 to 4 inches smaller than him can’t score. 3 points. LOL.