Got it out of your system?

They’ll get owned in Dallas like they always do. This team will continue to make no major accomplishments just as they haven’t done for the last 30 years.

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Was at the game last night -courtside – and 3 things jumped out at me:
1. The Hawks were not communicating on defese. The first half they were sleepwalking.the second half they just could manage any interior defense/ offensive rebounding besides Al.
2. Al wore out carying the rebounding ,shotblocking and inside offensive load. By the fourth quarter, he had nothing left in the tank but he battled to the end. Unlike Marvin who whatever his other talents may be is not the most agile or energetic player on the team. I di not believe some of the comments regarding his agility until I saw it up close.
3. With all of the growth that he has shown since his entering the league at 17-btw either yesterday or today is his 24th b-day- Josh still has some growing to do before he can assume the mantle of a star and team leader. He is trying but it wouldn’t hurt if he got some more help with his leadership skills.

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Garbage team, garbage Joe Johnson/Mike Woodson. JJ cannot leave soon enough.

Fire Mike Woodson, last night, Detriot and Charlotte are coaching losses, this guy CANNOT motivate this team.

Mark up a blowout loss tonight……guaranteed. Bet the house on the Mavs.

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DUHON HAD 25 POINTS. HOW THE HELL IS TEAGUE ONLY PLAYING 1 MIN AFTER PUTTING UP SOLID NUMBERS IN 23 MIN THE OTHER NIGHT?

I DONT CARE WHAT OUR RECORD IS OR WHAT I’VE SAID BEFORE. FIRE THIS GUY MIKE WOODSON RIGHT NOW. ANYONE REMEMBER LARRY DREW USING BIGS LAST YR AFTER A WOODY EJECTION? I DO

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Look at Robinson’s season in ATL ( http://www.nba.com/playerfile/glenn_robinson/ ), tell me they’re not pretty close to the same offensive stats (with exception of a/to) as JJ’s.

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Bone, all you see is what?

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KEN SUGIURA-one of the proven ways to protect the basket is to put play better DEF out front, especially putting a PG on the ball that can actually play DEF. The Nuggets got rid of center MCamby, who led the NBA in blocked shots and received DEF player of the yr honors, and AIverson. They brought in CBillups, a PG that actually plays DEF, and immediately improved defensively.

Woodson rode Bibby’s ineffective back, instead of going to Teague, because he was more interested in having the team play his beloved halfcourt, perimeter oriented, guard dominated WOODY BALL. We started the gm the same way we ended the Toronto gm. We were running, attacking and using our superior speed, quickness and athleticism to get off to an early lead. But, instead of continuing to play uptempo and attacking them, Woodson had Bibby switch to WOODY BALL. Woodson also knows both JJ and Bibby will automatically switch to WOODY BALL when they get tired.

KEN, you made the following statement: “I’M NOT SURE THEY KNOW THE ANSWER, EITHER”. Oh, they know the answer, but they know they had better not say anything about it. We’ve all been taught that Europe is a continent, but the truth is it’s not and has never been. Yet, even though the powers that be know it’s a lie, they continue to teach it because noone’s making a big issue of it so why change the status quo.

The players know Woodson isn’t a good HC for this team, but his tactics and philosophy does favor veterans and certain others. So why complain and change the status quo, especially if we still have a winning record and noone that’s actually benefitting and contributing is making it an issue.

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FIRE WOODY

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John Wall is a good as advertise…. 2010 number 1 overall draft pick.

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Rebounds…why lord rebounds? Twenty of those for Ben Wallace, seventeen for David Lee, why do we get out-hustled at that level and not make the switch to a bigger system even if for a few minutes to break the monotonous funks the Hawks work themselves into? This is what we were supposed to fix this summer by expanding the bench, and while I find Woody’s approach to using that rotation this year so far as…”Interesting”, it is obvious the guy is still focused on utilizing what he knows best rather than what he needs to learn more, which would make me more sympathetic to some of these six to eight point disappointments we have accumulated so far (the outliers are their own stories). Collins is not an impediment to a fast break system, rebound outlet pass to wing worked well for Shaq on a few of those rings he got, and that’s all he is and using that would allow both Josh and Al to lurk for the longer balls on either side. Hopefully we won’t get embarrassed against Dallas tonight, maybe even sneak a win out of it with that teary-eyed J-Smoove Redemption Game we would all like to see coming after the whiff dunk last night and a response from Jamal with a five dime game…

Sliver of hope stat to remember: We don’t have Sean May. That is all….

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Woodie is not a good coach, he think this team can win withouth Josh Smith! Woodie use your bench so your starters can be fresh down the stretch. The bench played well against Toronto but saw limited action last night.

Also you cannot play one on one BB and think you are going to when in the play-offs!

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JEJE Collins in not worth playing. Thats why he signed for the NBA minimum. I guess it was Sund’s way of temporarily addressing a major concern. Its clear he could have done better.

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This is a forth seed team at best!

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Newkid,

Before the season started, I thought John Wall was gift wrap in a New York Knicks draft card (aka Pat Ewing in 1985) for the 2010 draft. But the Nets decided they were going to be the league doormats and put a Nets logo on the JW card. Devin Harris is on the block?????

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On that topic, it will be interesting to see how the draft goes down this year with Wall almost definitely the number one pick. Many of the current lottery teams either have what they think is a young, long-term solution at point guard (New Jersey, Utah, Golden State, Sacramento) and/or have invested a lot of money and/or draft picks in the position recently (Minnesota, Washington). I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of draft-day trades this year. In any event, the point guard position is as strong as I can remember it NBA-wide right now, and looks to be that way for a while.

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I’d say that “they’re not as good as some of you thought, but not as bad as they seem” is about as safe an analysis that there is.

Everybody knows we’re not an elite team. What the smart-asses don’t get is that we’re TRYING to be one.

If this is who the Hawks are, then something has to change. Start with the easy part. Does it need to be the coach? Does it need to be who you center the team around? Does it need to be certain role players?

If this is who the Hawks are, then they are not who they need to be. It’s that simple. Changing it? Not so simple. I’m willing to bet that it’s more than just one thing.

I can tell you one thing right now: the coaching philosophy doesn’t match the players we have. Is that an indictment of the coach? No. Nor is it an indictment of the players. But the two are not matching up.

Woody is a defensive minded coach who says he likes for his guys to share the ball.

Yeah? So then why does this team continually give up so many points? Why are we resorting to ISOs and selfish play?

Something is amiss. It’s obvious. Tell you what else is obvious….no, I’ll wait. This is gonna go on a blog…

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Najeh,
I didnt realize that the Knicks didn’t own their 1st rnd pick. Oh my, this will set the franchise back even further b/c John Wall is in that Rose, D.Williams and Paul talent class coming into the draft. This kid is going to be special…

Of the teams you listed that has the potential (if losing is a talent) to have the number 1 pick, I only see Utah having an dilemma with picking Wall. Considering Hall talents, he may have that star power to put butts in seats. That alone would make a team find room on their roster for him….

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6th year as the head coach and Ol Woodrow still has not changed… He sticks to a script regardless of whats going on. Marvin can start out hot but you better believe Woodson will pull him at a certain point to bring in Crawford. It doesn’t matter if Joe or Bibby is struggling and Marv is hot because Marv is coming out. Woodrow still cant make adjustments, still cant utilize his bench, will go away from whats working, and still cant find a way to give the young pg consistent minutes regardless if the guy starting in front of him is having a bad night. We started off hot last year only to play a few games over .500 the rest of the season and this year looks no different.

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OBRIAN-you hit the nail on the head with your last comments. I remember the old Knicks, and the Hawks when Hubie Brown was the HC. Both teams focused on playing controlled halfcourt basketball, and most importantly, believed in using the entire 24sec clock. That not only forced the opposing DEF to work harder, it limited their number of possessions and their subsequent scoring. That, in a way, is a form of DEF strategy. Usually, teams that are considered the better DEF teams are also among the lowest scoring teams. Take the Spurs. Other than TDuncan and BBowen(although he’s retired), who else on that roster would you consider a solid defender(although TParker does do a very good job of making it difficult for opposing PG’s to get by him and make easy entry passes? They’ve mastered the halfcourt OFF and utilization of the clock on each possession, while keeping the score low for themselves and the opposition.

Woodson uses Bibby’s lack of speed, quickness and fatigue to maintain the pace he’s most comfortable with. Teague’s slowest speed is light yrs faster than Bibby’s, even when he was in his prime, and that’s not what Woodson wants. Isn’t it revealing how Woodson signs off on drafting Teague, praises him from draft day until the season starts, then proceeds to point out all of the things he feels he can’t do and uses that as his justification for basically ignoring him. He did the same thing with SStaudemire and ALaw.

A lot of you are now seeing and/or accepting what I’ve been seeing and making an issue of for over 2yrs now. It’s more noticable now because enough time has passed so that people can detect a pattern of behavior from him. Also, players and the team have advanced to a level that exposes Woodson’s agenda and coaching liabilities.

WHY HAVEN’T I GOTTEN A RESPONSE TO ANY OF MY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF YOU WOODY LOVERS? WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE YOU AT, AND WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY SO SILENT, ARE YOU HIDING? IS YOUR DEAFENING SILENCE A WAY OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE REALIZATION OF HOW WRONG YOU WERE IN YOUR PREMATURE ACCESSMENT OF WOODSON’S OVERALL COACHING COMPETENCE? COMEON COWARDS AND SPEAK UP. WE COULDN’T SHUT YOUR BUTTS UP EARLIER.

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Grandad i 100percent agree with you we need a center bad, i no nire have all the answer about trade clause but why when its time for us 2 make a move we have all this trade rule i dont understand, but when the CELTICS, LAKERS, CLEVLAND AND OTHER TEAM MAKE MOVE THEY JUST DO IT.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

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Rick sund the hawks will not contend with the big 3, unless we make a trade for a solid center like BEIDRIS and move big al 2 power forward and josh 2 play the small forward.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

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darrell, it’s not that hard to understand, the rich get richer. GBA

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Knicks have mucho cap space next summer, but they’re up against the Wall due to their absent pick. It LBJ hopes to both compete for the O’Brien trophy within the next couple of years AND play in the Big Apple, it’s gotta be in Brooklyn rather than Manhattan with Wall running the point. No owner is going to allow a GM or HC to sit John Wall simply because he’s a rookie. Devin Harris could fetch a pretty nice 2-guard in a trade, but could also be a piece in a sign-n-trade (can you say Joe Johnson?) if the Nets decide it’s more important to pair Lebron with an established 2-guard rather than a 4 like Bosh. Of course that means we say goodbye to Bibby next year as we reshape the backcourt. Would Devin Harris and JCross be a workable pair in the starting backcourt here?

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Bibby, Woody, and draft pick for A.Biedrins.

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And with all the mins woody the genius played the starters I doubt we win 2nite and he’s gonna blame lack of energy. Well of course they would have lack of energy, you keep running them into the ground.

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I’m going to say it with you CLYDE…. ROLL TIDE…..lol

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IM TIRED OF FLORIDA THEY BEAT MY BULLDOGS EVERY YEAR.
ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!

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Woodson honored

On Monday, Woodson was named to the 2010 class of the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame. Woodson grew up in Indianapolis and played collegiately at Indiana, where he was a two-time all-American. He is still the Hoosiers’ fifth all-time leading scorer. Among Indiana legends previously inducted are John Wooden, Oscar Robertson and the 1954 Milan High team, the inspiration for the movie “Hoosiers.”

“It’s a great honor,” Woodson said. “It means I’m getting older, I guess.”

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i guess if they weren’t going to crown Tebow the MVP they figured McElroy would do… SMH…

God Bless the SEC…

Mark Ingram (Heisman candidate)

att:28 yrd:113 td: 3

rec:2 yrd: 76

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darrell starks – keep on, keepin’ on.

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To the 7:53PM post. Come on SYBIL, the fact that you responded shows you’ve identified yourself as a WOODY LOVER, PLAYER BASHER, or both. I noticed you had to transform into one of your alter egos in order to respond. Was that due to recognition of your previous stance of ignorance/stupidity, embarrassment or both? Don’t answer. Why not carry on a running conversation with yourselves, you PSYCHO.

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Ken josh playing the 3 horford playing the 4 and biedrins playing center will make this team much stronger on a defense presence against the big three.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

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I feel sorry for Acie Law. He will be playing in europe next season.

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You know ken, I thought I d list the hundreds of post that have ask you to STFU this year, and I thought I’d mention how many hawks fans have went elsewhere to appreciate the hawks season rather than continue to accept you and your few loud vocal Bubba Crew members who ignore facts and perpetuate your agenda of getting Woodson fired. Then I realize you can’t help yourself at this stage of your sickness.

The enjoyment of the season gets lost in your agenda of attacking Woodson relentlessly and you ask “why do none of the Woodson supporters answer you?”
Most of them are hawks fans and understand basketball, something you do not and are not. You continue to argue the same tired point over, and over, and over again. Like Ken Sugiura previous article “Move on”, there’s a message there if you can hear it.
Most of them are productive citizens in the community and have more important contributions to make than to address your maladjusted behavior and ignorant rants. That’s why you are likened to Rush Limbaugh. We have jobs, careers, families and communities where we are involved.
THE REASON’S MANY HAWK’S FANS DON’T RESPOND TO YOU?
Woodson has done, and is doing a fine job, so there is no need to respond.
The hawks are right where the experts said they would be. In fourth seed and will win between 47-51 games. Why should we ignore what the experts are saying and give your angry regurgitations more merit?
Although you and the bubba crew may have deceived Ken Sugiura into thinking your views are indicative of a synopsis of this blogs views what he doesn’t know is that most sane and legitimate Hawks fans have left realizing that you and your gang of thugs, have one mission in mind.
Like most of the guys I will go back to ignoring you and your posse, some of which are fictional characters you’ve created.
You have stolen a lot of joy out of this season already. It’s been a good season so far but you can’t tell listening to your negative mouth. In the last week countless people have ask you both gently and harshly to shut up.
You are unable to neither receive correction nor accept that you are wrong, so why bother?
You ask “why do none of the Woodson supporters answer you?”
Perhaps you should ask a psychiatrist.

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LETS GET IT…

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Ken Strickland: Let me answer for ds if he does not mind. 1st of all, I was not aware that he was injured. However, the premis does not involve a comparison between Al and Andris. Instead, it is a way to enhance Al’s production. AB is a high motor 7 ftr. [drft express] with a defensive mentality. Al is generously listed @ 6-10 [6-8 and fraction sock ft.]. According to niremetal a marv trade does not work. My idea, now, is why not Bibby as a lead in. AB is signed for 9 mil. per for four yrs. [I think]. I’m certain on the 9 mil. Once again I have no idea concerning the extent of his inj. He seems to be a perfect fit, high energy, defender, good teammate and only 23 yrs. old. In no way am I slamming Al.
Think – LAL, Gasol is essentially a [4] paired with Bynum, with Odum available @ the [3] or [4].

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Their starting fast but lets see if the mavs adjust and embarass the hawks like the knicks did

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Joe having a nice game so far. Nowitzki heating up. Hmmmm.

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Its a great point the pregame show made that the Hawks lost the game in the paint with 30 lay ups against them. My question is why is it take Sund and the Bubba crews so long to address it since its clear horford aint the answer.

The game is already going out to the perimeter because we are intimidated to go inside. I hope that changes.

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Josh closed his mouth on that one

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glad to see Joe has gotten out of his slump..

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Damn Teague woulda dunked that

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Switching again…

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TS – If you eat at a restaurant and the soup makes you nauseas, should you complain about the chef.

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Joe holding the ball too much again, resulting in another turnover. Berea is gonna guard Crawford?

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Josh needs to calm down

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The only thing z and dirk have in common is they are both white

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No offensive scheme whatsoever

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Z has made a lot more of the 12-14 footers and I am ok with him taking those shots.

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Im smiling Grandad, you get an A for persistence.

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sweet dribbling by crawford to cross mid court. Joe may hit 40 tonight and dirk will be right with him .
Sweet Z!

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This is another poor coaching job, this team is not ready to play they are still stuck in the past…..NOT!

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TEAGUE HOISTS A FULL COURT BRICK! LOL JUST USING SOME BUBBA CREW LOGIC.

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These are two playoff teams for sure.

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Strong Z

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Truth Serum,

There is a monumental difference between saying “I doubt it” and “It won’t happen.” Guess which one I said?

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i dare you to leave him in Woody.. i dare you!

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Teague making Woody look smart. I don’t think Barea is used to having somebody this quick chasing him around.

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Have the Mavs been to the foul line yet?

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Did ya’ll see Josh on the bench lol

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Damn Zaza. Showing off some abilities there.

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they are playing like their are at Phillips…

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What kinda lineup does Woody have ob the floor

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Oh Nique with the heat check. Lord gimme a sign.

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Glad Horford gave it up.

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Both teams have gone ice cold here.

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rms: the little confidence he still have is getting crushed by Larry Brown.

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So long as Hawks are leading by a decent margin, this game can get ugly as it wants!

Josh gotta make free throws if Hawks gonna win this game, man.

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Woodson has a clip board Ray, stop the presses

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Horford again, with a travel

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put in Jeff

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See thats what happens when you don’t have any offensive plays. THANKS WOODY

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Hawks choking again

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Dirk got bailed out!

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Dang, the Hawks went a half of court without scoring a single point… Ugly….

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Joes right. They got back in the game at the line. A gift from the referees. I hope someone shows them the last call against josh.

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99% of the experts predict the hawks will finish 4th-7th. Thats where they are at. Thats where they will be with out a center. They are playing as well as they can. They are projected to win 47-52 games. Thats what they are on paste to do regardless of tonight’s game. Why does the Bubba posse expect this team to do better than that is beyond the professional analyst. Just face it. We still need to add some key pieces before we are championship material.

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“Thats what they are on PASTE to do regardless of tonight’s game”

LMAO whats wrong with this sentence

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did u all see that long drawn out dribble by joe and then he got the ball taken away??

now,we all know where this is going folks..
the 2nd half,and its gonna be a 6-7 man rotation,and its gonna be a lot of iso’s for joe johnson,and we’re not gonna go inside,period..

this game will get out of hand..the only way we can stay ahead and play true hawk ball,is by the starters having foul trouble and he has to play the bench or,woody gets 2 techs,and larry drew coach’s this team in da 2nd half..

but to give the starters credit,the game is not really out of hand..i just know woody is gonna tire down the starters,and the bench will be looking on,cheerleading..

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Lots of dribbling true that, but I think hes trying to break down the D and besides everybody else is bricking. Its up to him to make it happen. Its his team.

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up top to Bey Bey!!!

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Lets see if the hawks collapse again

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If Mavs win the third quarter, they gonna win this game.

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Just wanna see one FG made.

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HAWKS ARE PRETENDERS

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can we please put someone in at the pg position who can penetrate the defense…

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That was dirty

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Refs dont like Josh…

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forearm to the waist…

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Get out the lane Marvin you bum!!

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Marvin is playing a good game… im telling u…

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College Park, Ga

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Haha wow.

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Nobody is even trying to calm Josh down. This team doesn’t even stick 2gether.

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WAY 2 GO JOSH!!
BUT U SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIM ON DA FLOOR!!
DON’T GO SOFT AFTER A HARD FOUL!!

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co-sign nunna yo business…

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aight.. .but why you still talking to the Ref Josh… u just got thrown out yesterday…

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hey,josh does need some self control,but,he is the only one who plays wit fire,and i would want in a street brawl besides mo evans..

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okay.. so he’s wide open… does that mean you dont contest?

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The last two offensive possessions were great. Share the ball and work it inside, and good things will happen.

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Oh well, Bibby is shaken up and Woodson refuse to put in Teague to replace him…Geesh… Did he even recognize Teague good play in the 1st half…

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Mavs cant shake the hawks, love the p/r with josh.

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Dan, in that case refs don’t like Kobe, Lebron, Pierce, D Wade….whatever superstar you can think of because all of them cry to the refs…

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They are cheating off horford. We need good play from the bench before the start of the 4th

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Mike Bibby has played 18 minutes, and is 1-7. Where is Teague?

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Marv role playing

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cheap 4th foul…

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PLAY TEAGUE DAMMIT

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For What?

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Lucky to get out of that one

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Hmmm, Dallas coach decides to rest Dirk at the end of the 3rd qtr b/c he know it will be a dog fight in the 4th. What does Woody do with Joe, just leave him in the game.. He can rest during timeouts…

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Dallas has 13 blocks.

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Hawks are scared to go inside and are settling for out side shots. Guess whos controlling the paint? Hint, It aint horford.

It up to joe cuz no one else is hitting, just bricking.

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13 blocks

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Its nice to be in the game in the fourth, thats all you can ask. Now weve got four players guarding joe, They dont believe in any one else

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So one else needs to step up besides Joe.

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Yeah, Teague needs to come in and shoots lights out and put up at least 20-25 points this quarter so we will have a chance. I dont know why our superstar is on Bench….fire woody

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STOP THE F*CKIN SWITCHIN

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Woody kills me how he yells at everyone else except for Joe… Joe has his usual 24 second dribbleathon and tops it off with a force fadaway and all woody does is fold his arms!! Crawford takes a quick 3 and woody calls timeout to go crazy in him. I went to the game last night i am starting to believe that joe is freezing out crawford who was open several times on the wing and joe didnt pass him the ball… Al horford is clueless as too how to defend the pick and roll…

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Love it.

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Looks like the switching is working so why stop it? 10-1 run, why change?

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I really don’t get what Dallas has been doing here on these last couple of possessions. They’ve been setting the picks up top and getting the switches. They’ve had Nowtizki on some mismatches near the top of the key and haven’t fed him the ball…

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Captain Joe is asserting hisself, we need that. Dirk is doing it for dallas and Joe for us, why complain we are in the game in the forth quarter on the road against a major team. I like this, thats all I can ask for.

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That was good D by Al

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Crawford is very cold

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this could have been a little easier..

but,it looks like its our game so far..i cut the tv off,and im gonna give us the victory,i just hope i don’t look at this blog in 20 minutes and the outcome is different..but i doubt it..

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Know your personnel….you don’t have to jump at Jason Kidd, let that clown shoot, stupid foul…

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Crawford needs to play set up man tonight… shooting touch not there.

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Lovin the 2nd chance opportunities, but lets get some buckets.

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because this brand and style wont win against the teams that are ahead of us…. 2 many iso’s we should be motion offense all the time

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Dumb shot by josh.

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Dumb foul by Josh. What happened to his playing under control?

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Terrible shot by Josh. However, Dirk flop more than any player in the league…

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Even dumber shot by horford but of course they are leaving him open expecting a brick.

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Melvin see Paul Peirce…

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The game is on the line but it may fight done to the last second and over time is a possibility. Did mo evans play tonight?

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Looks like Woodson is drawing plays

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big dave, toss up…

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Wowzers Joe Johnson, that was pretty.

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Dallas has gotten most of their points these past couple of minutes from Dirk at the line…

Can’t keep sending him to the line.

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We are going back to the jumpers…

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Great game and good chess match with joe canceling dirk. We need a run. They are going to the basket on us our weakness, step up someone besides jj, nice shot joe smith

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good work JOE SMITH… why bring in Bibby?

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As an aside, Greg Oden has injured his knee again, and is getting an MRI now. I am glad the Hawks didn’t end up with the #1 pick in that draft.

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Great pass by Horford. Great ball movement. Tough turnover, but that’s the way we should play all the time.

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Man all that damn switchin

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Terry looked like he got bailed out there.

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Bibby aint even trying to fight over the picks. He keep switch on to Dirk…

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then book TCU poop…

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Bibby never misses when he’s THAT WIDE OPEN!

Common Bibby…

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in and out bibby that was for the game- good play to find bibby. he makes most of them.

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Damn Bibby, those are the shots you get paid to make… looks like the Hawks will need one more defensive stand.

In other news, Tech just scored a go-ahead TD over Clemson, and Greg Oden is out for the season with a fractured patella tendon.

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Oden should just retire.

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Leave Jason Kidd open, don’t even switch…

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Great D Josh!!!!!

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Yes!! Get the Ball to JJ or crawford or bibby they gotta foul

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Good defense. The Mavs are inept!

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TX v BAMA

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Whew

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wow that was a backcourt

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Horford is screwing up. that was a foul on Kidd! Quit crying you should have put the hawks away at home. Lights out dallas

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That was no steal that was a take.

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Mike Woodson was previously 0-15 in the state of Texas.

ELITE coach Mike Woodson.

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DITTO ON THE HUGE CONTRIBUTION FROM JOE SMITH! BUT JJ WON THIS GAME.

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Great win. We’ve had plenty of them this season, unfortunately, we’ve had as many disappointing losses.

If we could just put forth efforts like the one’s we’ve had against these Mavs, or the Blazers, or the Celtics against every opponent – we’d be in much better shape.

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Ok I missed Joes point total by 9, I said 40 he got 31, my bad.

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Were in great shape. From the lakers to the celtics, denver, cleveland and orlando, they all lose game they shouldnt and win games against good teams. They will each have a 2 or 3 game losing streak and they will all make the play offs. No team wins all 82.

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Ditto on the M. Woodson handling business.

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GEORGIA BLUEBONNET BOWL!!! GOOOOOOOoooooooo Mark Richt!

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See

Truth-Serum

December 5th, 2009
11:40 pm

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Choose your weapon, what works tonight off the bench may not work the next night. Crawford was no biggy. Just win baby!

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Blast – I’m sorry, but I’m still a doubter. There is no reason to be a work in progress interminably. let’s aspire to be elite, Now!

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Said it last game, man. NBA ball is about match ups. Some teams match up well or better than other teams, regardless of their record, and some teams lay bricks against inferior competition. Hawks lose to Knicks, Dallas lose to Memphis and then lost to Hawks who have not won in Dallas in eons. Any team can beat any team in any given night. Believe. Lots of times it all depends on which team wants it most, and plays harder and with more heart. Of course we cannot discount superior coaching.

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Blast

December 6th, 2009
12:02 am

Very wise post

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That makes sense. put 10 players out there, sit down and instant wins, no coaching necessary. I see your point. Thank,I hadnt thought about it that way.

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nunna yo buzinezz there’s a coaching vacancy in New Orleans if you are interested

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Grandad. I want to be elite now!

But you have to understand, and appreciate where the Hawks are coming from and where they have been 3 years from now when they were bottom of the league. Out of all the elite teams in the league, the Hawks have the cheapest payroll. Which means they are right now gettin a biggers bang for their buck. Will extrapolate later, but hitting the sack now.

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Elite, average, mediocore, doesn’t really mean much to me. Those are all just meaningless labels at this point. For me, the Hawks have to prove they can beat quality opponents this season, and not just at home, but on the road. Every team loses games – unfortunately for the Hawks, some of their losses have been head-scratchers. However, with that said, the Hawks have piled up wins against some pretty good ball clubs this season – and more importantly, they’ve demonstrated the ability to win against quality opponents on the road. Dallas is a tough arena to play in, and Atlanta demonstrated poise and perseverance in tonites game. 7 + minutes without a bucket. Although we were right there, things were not looking good – and in the back of my mind, it seemed that the Hawks would potentially roll over after that drought. But, they came back out in the second half and kept on grindin’. Great effort.

Winning is great. Winning on the road is just much more satisfying. Regardless of what seed the Hawks wind up with going into the post-season (and I know it’s still early), it won’t mean as much as it has in the past. We’re proving to be a much tougher team when going on the road than we’ve been in years past – which is a good thing for a team looking to make a deep post-season run.

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Most of you just know Woody as a coach, but if you ever get an opportunity to meet him you will be blessed to meet one of the nicest men. Some people may not like his coaching style, but coaching is just one part of this man. He has come a long way from that kid in Indianapolis. He is a good example for our young men in professional sports, when it comes to taking care of business,after sports. So don’t just look at one part of the man, but look at the whole man. A damn good man who beat the odds. God had a hand in this one.

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CREDIT RLP

With an 82 game schedule we are at the quarter point of the season. The team has a winning percentage of .700%. If the team were to keep up this level of success for an entire season they would win 57 of 82 games during the regular season. NO HAWKS TEAM HAS EVER WON MORE THAN 57 GAMES DURING THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE. I say this without trying to defend Woody’s coaching except to the extent that I find it ironic that the coach who is on that pace has drawn as much fire as this coach has drawn.

We are in December. What this team will become during this season has not yet been determined. I suggested that the rhetoric be toned down and was criticized for making that suggestion because it was interpreted as trying to stifle debate. So I withdraw that suggestion. Shout out loud all you want about how terrible the coach is. But if this team develops like I think they have the potential to develop then I am really going to enjoy some of you as you backtrack from the limb you are on.

And if they fail to live up to expectations then Woody’s supporters will have no basis for arguing for his retention.

Having said that I will also agree that if the team does improve to a new level that does not mean that the coach will be recognized by his detractors. After all if the ownership of this club would just fire this sorry pretender and bring in a real coach like Lon Kruger or Bob Weiss we would have really been in the clover. From my standpoint that is the elephant in the room that no one mentions when they call for firing Woody. You just don’t know if a successor would be an improvement or a detriment to the team’s success.

(JUST FOR THE RECORD THIS TEAM IS PROJECTED TO BE SEEDED 4TH-7TH AND WIN 47-52 GAMES, ANY THING LESS IS A NON SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN, ANYTHING MORE WOULD BE A BANNER SEASON.)

LET THE SEASON PLAY OUT!

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How can someone as good as Joe Johnson be so bad? Pound, Pound, Ignore teammates, pound, pound, pound. Joe is only interested in himself apparantly. Pound, pound, pound. Ignore, Ignore.

Woody has lost the team. The great early passing of the season is history.

Pound, Pound, Pound.

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Championship #22. Its a good day to roll wit the Tide.

FIRE WOODY

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a true hawks fan,
that was beautiful..and i believe that u have some kind of knowledge of them man off the court more than any of us on here.

im sure he has come a long way and that the lord has blessed him,look at where he is now..

an nba coach,former nba player,a nice collegiate player as well..and,a wonderful loving father..i know of him thru the ties that he had at his girls high school,and the practices they held there before..
off the court,he is a nice guy..

on the court he is a nice guy as well..but,with all that being said,he should know better in his decisions that he makes,but he does not..
he is lazy in the head..

he does not know that relying on his starters to play 40+ minutes a game every year,(when he would reply that the reason he does it is because he does not have a bench,every year)is a sign that he does not know what he has and he,nor his coaching staff,are not up to the capabilities of developing his bench or his youth(i.e…teague,hunter)..

i know its frustrating for u to see the comments that i and others have about coach woodson,when you know another side..i know..

but,its frustrating for us,as hawks fans,to see that he does not see his mistakes and that he will be the ultimate downfall if this team does not meet expectations that they have,and even he has set..

his excuse every year is that he does not have a bench..well,he had a decent one last year that he did nothing with..and this year he has a better one,than he did last year..

his starters,do not need to jell..they have..they are not gonna get any better than they are now..we know who they are and what they can do..they are who we thought,no let me correct that,they are who we know they are..

his job is to incorporate the others on his team to make them ONE FINE UNIT!!

not putting them in and they look lost after 50 games because of lack of playing time..

and,we’re use to seeing that from his coaching philosophy,and it purely stinks..it really does..

he would have more people behind him if we would see him using the bench and trying to develope players during the season,and then if they are not doing what he says they should and not only the fans but the front office would see it,then,he would have a case and the burden would not be on him but the GM,and we would be behind this coach…

some players are just gamers..they are game players,and you might not see a lot of what they can do in practice..

chris paul,derron williams,aaron brooks are the new up and coming stars in the nba..do u think we would have heard of them and what they bring to there teams if they played under your beloved coach woodson..

H3LL NAW WE WOULDN’T!!

there are a lot of nice people who beat the odds and make it in everyday life,and coach woodson is one of them..

but,if you want to keep your job and food on your table,you have to take a look at yourself and ask yourself if your doing all that you can do??

i don’t think so..with the hard road he had to climb,he should be the 1st to open up doors (and playing time) to others,and not show one person more attention than others..

HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!

BUT,HE COACHES LIKE HE DON’T…

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Fire Mike Woodson………………

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i think the hawks are the 3rd best team in the league!!! only people that can truly beat them is lakers, and orlando.. which is the two teams that was in the championship last year, if they can find a answer for them. then they will be the best in the league… ima true hawks fan.. but they can compete with those two teams, its just clutch time im worried about..

the hawks will beat out boston for that third seed in the east.. boston does not have a answer for them now. they are not quick enough to guard all five of our starting five when we a run and gun team… and they do not have a deffensive answer for josh smith… period..

and we can beat cleveland for that second spot, if we can stop shaq without playing hack a shaq!!!!

and if the hawks get home court advantage through out the play offs.. then they will win the title!!!!

that is all

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After reading some of the comments on the Dallas Morning News Mavs blog, I am not as concerned about the comments on this blog: if you took out the name Carlyle(sp) and inserted Woodson, the blogs would be almost identical.

An observation on last night’s game in Dallas: the Mavs are a much older team( Dirk=34,JT=31,Damp=33,Kidd= 36) and their legs were not there on the second game of a back to back. The Hawks defensive effort helped some as well.

My pet peeve about pro sports in general and the Hawks specifically is the cascade of comments like ..we didn’t have any energy tonight… we were not on the same page… we aren’t communicating out there.. . What the %^&* are you being paid to do? I know that the NBA is a player’s league and if, for example,LBJ wanted a new coach, Mike Brown would be history in a heartbeat. But at some point, someone has to say enough! If you play hard and well as both an individual and a teamate, then you get minutes but if you don’t then no matter who you are , you won’t get minutes.

A pipe dream for sure but it has to happen some day and I say why not here and soon?

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RLP-another excellent comment, and I understand exactly where you’re coming from. Woodson has demonstrated on more that one occassion that he knows how to do the things as a HC that makes this team better, but for some unknown reason he refuses to do them with consistency.

As soon as I direct on point comments at TRUTH SERUM, and they hit a nerve, we suddenly start seeing all of these other names appearing and displaying an extremely low level of ignorance, vulgarity and sickness. There are times when he actually engages in intelligent discourse, but as most of us already know, THERE’S A THIN LINE BETWEEN GENUIS AND INSANITY, AND THIS FOOL PROOVES THAT THEORY CORRECT.

I have to agree that the word HATE is overused on these blogs. There are a lot of us that don’t have any personal feelings for or against Woodson, or certain players, but some definitely do. I feel these individuals are in the minority. I really liked Woodson as a player and got to get an idea of the kind of person he was back then. The demeanor and attitude he displays as a HC is totally different from the demeanor that was displayed by MWoodson the player. I wanted the Hawks to acquire him because he was so fundamentally sound.

Having been a fan of his as a player, I was really excited when he was hired as our HC. I thought he’d bring the same attitude, fundamentals and consistency to the Hawks that he displayed as a player. I guess not seeing enough of those attributes is why I’ve become so disappointed with his change in demeanor, the seemingly rigid approach, as well as the unevenness and inconsistency in which he deals with players and the overall team.

Our team is now reflecting all of those issues. When we play quality teams, which is easy for the players to get fired up for, we play the way we’re capable of playing and usually win. When we play teams that are definitely not quality teams, we tend to go playground, and usually lose.

Here’s an example of that inconsistency with players. Smoove gets ejected after 13mins and leaves us short at PF, yet Zaza gets only 15.36mins and Joe Smith, his backup, gets only 4:50mins in a loss to an inferior Knicks team at home. We play a hot Mavericks team on the road and Joe Smith gets 18:33mins and makes several key plays that sealed the win for us. With a short roster Joe Smith get 4:50mins and with a full roster he suddenly gets almost as many mins as he and Zaza got the night before combined. Couldn’t we have used that performance, and couldn’t he have used the extended mins against the Knicks as well?

How in the hell can any HC think he can just ignore his bench players for periods at a time, or give them inconsistent mins and/or opportunities and still expect them to perform consistently everytime? Common sense should tell him that if his starters aren’t performing consistently, like Bibby and JJ recently, how does he think getting consistency from an inconsistently utilized bench player be as simple as pushing a damn button? And explain the logic behind punishing all bench players with extended bench time, except JCrawford and maybe Zaza, if they don’t perform up to expectations when given a limited opportunity? And explain doing the same thing to a player(RandMo) that has actually performed very well in 2 very limited opportunities? We certainly could have used his inside scoring threat/ability against the Knicks and Mavericks when we went perimeter and couldn’t buy a basket.

The early season winning streak and beating the Mavericks on the road won’t coverup the problems we have. We still have problems with inconsistency, underutilization of talent and our bench, faultly strategy, or no strategy at all, not committing to a definitive style of play, not creating or taking advantage of matchups(strategy), a DEF philosophy that puts our players in disadvantageous matchups, inflexibility, lack of imagination, no committment to or strategy for the development and effective utilization of young players, a double standard in the treatment of players, too many excuses and too much of the blame gm from Woodson.

I absolutely love the way this team and it’s players have managed to overcome all of these issues and maintained a winning record over the last 2yrs. I’d love to see Sund or Woodson take those burdens off their collective backs and watch them fly straight to the top of the Eastern conference.

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