Somewhere over Alabama or Mississippi – I’m on my way to Dallas. It struck me as odd that I’ll be in Atlanta and Dallas today, but am covering neither the SEC or Big 12 championship.
Anyway, my quick take on the New York loss. Obviously, losing Josh Smith was huge, in that the starters burned more minutes than they would have, and the Knicks went at the basket with relative impunity. The Knicks shot 30/41 in the lane for 60 PIP – tying the season high against the Hawks – and the Hawks only blocked two shots, a season low. I don’t think it’s beyond the scope of reason to say that the Hawks would have won with Smith but I’d also say the Hawks still should have won anyway. They realized a little late that Al Horford and Joe Johnson were the answers offensively.
I don’t have an answer about how the Hawks could have protected the rim better. You’d think Woodson would have tried Joe Smith in the middle or Jeff Teague on Chris Duhon. I didn’t get to ask Woodson last night, but my suspicions would be that he’d say that Smith would have been a matchup problem against New York’s small ball and that he’d rather have Bibby than Teague in against the Knicks because he wanted to control the pace and Teague can’t do that like Bibby can and that Mo Evans was his attempt to slow down Duhon. Hopefully I can get an answer about that this evening.
As far as the various complaints about the switching defense, I’m not so sure it’s as easy as saying, “O.K., let’s stop switching and play straight up.” Maybe it is, I don’t know, but I wouldn’t think so. I think maybe the answer Friday wasn’t the defensive system, just the way it was executed. (which isn’t exactly comforting, either.)
I forget who said this in the game thread, but whoever said that this maybe is just who the Hawks are may be on to something. They may just be a good but not great team. That said, the Knicks beat the Suns earlier this week and they nearly beat Boston, and the Dallas team that everyone expects to pound the Hawks lost to Memphis Friday. That doesn’t exactly justify the Hawks losing to New York, but if you’re going to say “The Hawks are terrible; they lost to New York, New Orleans and Detroit,” how do you explain them beating Boston, Portland, Miami and Denver?
I don’t like saying this because it’s cliche, but it’s probably also true. The Hawks aren’t as good as some of you thought they were during the seven-game run, and they’re not as bad as some of you think they are now.
One other thing – while I agree to a point with many of you about Johnson’s shot selection, last night it seemed like it was the only thing working in the second half. He was 9 for 13 in the second half. The rest of the team was 11 for 26.
Anyway, let’s see what Saturday night brings. I think what the Hawks are hoping for is that everyone brings their pocket TV’s to the game to watch Texas-Nebraska and Josh Smith brings a full steam of redemption to the arena.
It’s obviously going to be a bear. Jason Kidd-Mike Bibby could be problematic, certainly, though I’m not going to vouch for Kidd’s defensive ability, either.
One other thing that I just find kind of funny – for those of you who lambaste Marvin Williams, here’s what I don’t get: You rip him up and down (which is your right as a fan), but then I read these fanciful trade proposals. I’m not here to stick up for him or attack him, but I’m just asking, if he’s as ineffective as you think he is, what makes you think another NBA team is going to want him? I swear, I think I read someone saying the Hawks should trade him for Chris Bosh.
Lastly, hopefully I’ll get the chance today to check back on all your predictions for the Hawks’ 10-game stretch that ends against Dallas. I’ll try to have something up when I get it done.
Enjoy your Saturdays, everyone.
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Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:10 pm
there was no contact on the play
Melvin
December 5th, 2009
10:11 pm
Dang, the Hawks went a half of court without scoring a single point… Ugly….
Mactown'z Finest 478
December 5th, 2009
10:11 pm
What the h*ll are you guys talkin about this is the ELITE Hawks!!!
Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:12 pm
Joes right. They got back in the game at the line. A gift from the referees. I hope someone shows them the last call against josh.
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:14 pm
No plays at all. Just one on one. THATS ALL ON WOODY
Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:17 pm
99% of the experts predict the hawks will finish 4th-7th. Thats where they are at. Thats where they will be with out a center. They are playing as well as they can. They are projected to win 47-52 games. Thats what they are on paste to do regardless of tonight’s game. Why does the Bubba posse expect this team to do better than that is beyond the professional analyst. Just face it. We still need to add some key pieces before we are championship material.
Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:19 pm
on pace to do
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:19 pm
“Thats what they are on PASTE to do regardless of tonight’s game”
LMAO whats wrong with this sentence
Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:20 pm
Dallas is playing a switching D tonight. At least in the first half, that confused the Hawks clearly.
nunna yo buzinezz
December 5th, 2009
10:20 pm
did u all see that long drawn out dribble by joe and then he got the ball taken away??
now,we all know where this is going folks..
the 2nd half,and its gonna be a 6-7 man rotation,and its gonna be a lot of iso’s for joe johnson,and we’re not gonna go inside,period..
this game will get out of hand..the only way we can stay ahead and play true hawk ball,is by the starters having foul trouble and he has to play the bench or,woody gets 2 techs,and larry drew coach’s this team in da 2nd half..
but to give the starters credit,the game is not really out of hand..i just know woody is gonna tire down the starters,and the bench will be looking on,cheerleading..
Dan
December 5th, 2009
10:21 pm
I think it’s on Joe Johnson all that dribbling sh*t!!!!
Truth-Serum
December 5th, 2009
10:22 pm
Lots of dribbling true that, but I think hes trying to break down the D and besides everybody else is bricking. Its up to him to make it happen. Its his team.
Dan
December 5th, 2009
10:22 pm
Joe demands the ball too much, instead of letting Biby organize the halfcourt game. I’m sick of it!!!
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:23 pm
up top to Bey Bey!!!
cp
December 5th, 2009
10:24 pm
Just how many names does this one clown have? I know its the same person because in every post they talk about this bubba crew crap or is calling out Ken Strickland. Man talk about the Hawks and stop the crazy ex girlfriend stalking routine. It has become quite pathetic and annoying.
If Bibby is still hurt then why is he playing? He isn’t bringing much right now so let him rest and get his ankle healed. This team is known to come out after halftime and look lethargic so hopefully they come out with some intensity in the 3rd quarter.
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:27 pm
Lets see if the hawks collapse again
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:28 pm
Embarrasing
Blast
December 5th, 2009
10:29 pm
If Mavs win the third quarter, they gonna win this game.
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:30 pm
im really confused… was Josh not supposed to get the ball or did Bibby just not pass it to him? maybe its whoever calls for the ball gets it…
Wabe
December 5th, 2009
10:31 pm
Just wanna see one FG made.
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:31 pm
Man this team is pathetic. Did u hear nelson off the simpsons “HA HA” LMAO
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:31 pm
HAWKS ARE PRETENDERS
Sam from da Swats
December 5th, 2009
10:32 pm
I mean, this Josh will not get a foul call…
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:32 pm
can we please put someone in at the pg position who can penetrate the defense…
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:33 pm
bs Joe…
nvnvnv
December 5th, 2009
10:33 pm
That was dirty
Sam from da Swats
December 5th, 2009
10:34 pm
FIGHT…FIGHT….FIGHT!!!
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:34 pm
Refs dont like Josh…
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:34 pm
Through Dampier out
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:35 pm
forearm to the waist…
Melvin
December 5th, 2009
10:35 pm
Josh should get rid of that arm band…..
Sam from da Swats
December 5th, 2009
10:36 pm
Get out the lane Marvin you bum!!
Blast
December 5th, 2009
10:36 pm
Bad as Hawks have played in the second, only down by 2. They make some shots and should be alright. Where is Crawford?
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:36 pm
Marvin is playing a good game… im telling u…
Sam from da Swats
December 5th, 2009
10:37 pm
Good block Marvin…give us something damn!!
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:37 pm
College Park, Ga
Blast
December 5th, 2009
10:37 pm
Josh, shut the hell up!
nvnvnv
December 5th, 2009
10:38 pm
Haha wow.
Wabe
December 5th, 2009
10:38 pm
Josh Smith, self-control. Please.
BONE
December 5th, 2009
10:38 pm
Nobody is even trying to calm Josh down. This team doesn’t even stick 2gether.
nvnvnv
December 5th, 2009
10:39 pm
I wish Marvin could dribble. Dude has no handles.
nunna yo buzinezz
December 5th, 2009
10:39 pm
WAY 2 GO JOSH!!
BUT U SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIM ON DA FLOOR!!
DON’T GO SOFT AFTER A HARD FOUL!!
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:39 pm
no defined roles = no chemistry
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:39 pm
co-sign nunna yo business…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 5th, 2009
10:40 pm
This may be an ugly game, but they are playing much better than they did yesterday. They are giving themselves opportunities by getting to the free throw line, taking care of the ball (more than Dallas anyway), playing pretty good defense overall, and crashing the offensive glass. It’s just a matter of shots falling, which hopefully will start happening soon.
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:40 pm
aight.. .but why you still talking to the Ref Josh… u just got thrown out yesterday…
nvnvnv
December 5th, 2009
10:40 pm
Refs really can’t stand Josh at all.
nunna yo buzinezz
December 5th, 2009
10:40 pm
hey,josh does need some self control,but,he is the only one who plays wit fire,and i would want in a street brawl besides mo evans..
Dan
December 5th, 2009
10:41 pm
Refs don’t like Josh because he’s a cry baby and the are tired of his sh*t.
bigdave
December 5th, 2009
10:41 pm
okay.. so he’s wide open… does that mean you dont contest?