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Greetings, all-
We’ve got a pretty good test for a number of reasons.
You’d have to think this is a game the Hawks should win, particularly if they’re torqued off about how they finished last night. The Hawks are a better team than Philly, plus the Sixers are missing point guard Lou Williams. Philly has lost eight of 10.
One thing to watch will be how the Hawks respond from the patterns of their second-half debacle, particularly how well they move the ball in the half court.
On to the game.
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Clyde
November 27th, 2009
7:25 pm
Roll Tide
Blast
November 27th, 2009
7:26 pm
2nd!
I would really be worried if Hawks lose again tonight. Really worried.
Woody might have lost this team. If he can’t draw up effective plays for a team he has coached for five years, if he can’t reign in an out of control JJ hell bent on getting a max contract, Woody might have lost this team. And if that is the case, we all see why he has not been extended yet. The next two games are really crucial for Hawks psyche. Hawks cannot afford multiple losing streaks. They just need to share and move the damn ball!
Big Ray,
You crazy, man!
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
7:44 pm
quite a start here.
rms
November 27th, 2009
7:44 pm
Lets see how good these Hawks really are? Oh yeah, 3rd!!
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
7:50 pm
lol @ josh “god damn man”
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
7:54 pm
not a lot of energy so far.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
7:56 pm
Good God….Bibby is on fire. This is one of those moments that you don’t need or want to hear the name Teague….right?
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
7:57 pm
Blast ,
I know, dude. Sometimes I just can’t help myself.
bigdave
November 27th, 2009
8:03 pm
YIKES!
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:04 pm
i wonder if bibby does his best shooting when he’s stepping into his shot as he has been.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:05 pm
Clyde ,
I saw your sly jibe on the last blog. You ask me how many points Horford had last night, I ask YOU how many times he got to shoot the ball. The man got three shot attempts. Show me a guy who can score 15-20 points off of that, and I’ll show you a guy who is getting the ball enough and getting to the line. Which would mean more than three shot attempts. Don’t try to be slick, man. And screw Alabama….
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:06 pm
horford has equaled his output from last night.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:06 pm
Ken ,
Yes, he does, I believe.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:07 pm
Crawford to Teague. That’s a speedy combo. Me likey…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:09 pm
Good shot contest by Teague…made Kopono pass it away.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:09 pm
Heh…yeah, he’s already equaled the number of shot attempts he got last night, that’s why….lol
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
Josh isn’t giving up on the play, which is good, but he needs to finish strong against Dalembert…can’t give that long-armed fool a chance to block a soft shot. Dunk on him!
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:15 pm
Is everybody still in a turkey coma? It’s quiet here….
Josh making Dalembert work, but he’s still missing free throws…
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
8:17 pm
Teague got some good minutes here in the 2nd quarter.
Hopefully he’ll see the floor again…
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:19 pm
i wonder what percentage of Zaza touches result in some sort of whistle.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:19 pm
I just came online and I wanna say WHERE THE HELL IS MARVIN?
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:20 pm
I wont complain about teague not playing but keep the guy in more then 4 minutes. He was getting in a flow. take crawford out cause he struggling and let bibby play the 2…especially when hes on fire like he is
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:20 pm
Waiting for the elite team to show up
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:21 pm
good call@Mike N.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:21 pm
Wabe ,
We could use him. He’s quick, energetic, and has no issues with getting to the basket whenever the opportunity presents itself. And his defense isn’t any worse than anybody else’s.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:21 pm
Marvin is doing his usual invisible man routine
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:22 pm
Bone ,
You might have a better chance at find Waldo or Carmen San Diego than you do Marvin.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:22 pm
Thing is, the Sixers don’t even really look all that good, they’re just athletic. Which tells you just how bad we’re playing.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:23 pm
LOL @ Big Ray
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:24 pm
Just imagine Ty Lawson or Brandon Jennings slipped to 19 and we drafted them. You would never be hearing their name cause they would be getting 8 minutes a game. If Lawson can get 20 minutes a game backing up Billups you would think we could get 15-18 minutes a game for teague
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:24 pm
Nice move by Marvin. Will it be his only one of the night?
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:25 pm
I wish Marvin had the ability to get a shot up in traffic without getting blocked
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
YEaHHHHHH BOYYYYYY….Horford to J-SMASH!
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
was marvin walkin to the wrong bench for a sec there?
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
lol hahahaha marvin went the wrong way
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
LOL @ Marvin he was about to walk to the Sixers bench after the timeout. LOL Damn he is lost.
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
lol yes mac he was
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
8:26 pm
Josh making the extra passes tonite in the lane getting guys better looks.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:27 pm
Mike N ,
That’s not unreasonable, I think. But, that’s just what we think, lol…
Man, if it wasn’t for Big Al, Josh, and Bibby….I’d think no Hawks wanted to win this game.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:27 pm
I’m glad to see I ain’t the only one who saw that lol
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:28 pm
lol marvin had the funny little walk going on and everything
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:29 pm
Can we trade Marvin for Dalembert lol
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:29 pm
Great job by Bibby to fight Dalembert for that rebound, forcing him into a traveling violation.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:30 pm
Damn, Marvin doesn’t even know where he is….his azz is gonna end up on the back of a milk carton any second now….
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Big Ray…its so strange. I have never seen a guy his size and athletism get blocked as much as Marvin does
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
nothing new here. the hawks have one of the worst, unimaginative half court offenses in the league. need to run more plays for marvin. horford has been mia the last two games.
what the hell happened to the defense. philly getting easy dunks and layups only tell me the hawks are lacking focus and desire. they need to get on it.
josh smith’s talent is to tantalizing. he teases us with small stretches of brilliance. if he could do it more consistently he’s easily one of the top ten players in the league.
teague has looked good in limited minutes.
bibby has shot the ball well early. but once he starts missing like he has been he has nothing else to go to. besides being a defensive liability.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
wouldn’t be that bad of a trade @BONE
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:32 pm
Dalembert is a beast
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:32 pm
Wow! No look pass from Bibby to Josh. Glad those two came to play or we wouldn’t have anything going on at either end of the floor.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
Marvin kind of seems special ed seriously
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
Marvin has the worst coordination I have ever seen ona human
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
yea marvin might be a lil slow
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
Honest Abe ,
I hear you, but Josh is playing better than almost any other Hawk these days. Seriously. Superstar Joe is on the bench with three fouls. The only other dude acting like a pro is Bibby. Horford is playing okay, but nothing great.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
The only reason Marvin gets minutes is because Mike Woodson’s his step dad. Little known are these facts.
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
nice defense by evans.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
LOL @ Mac
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
Hah! You’ll never get the Sixers to go for that one. You don’t give up a 7 foot plus center who is finally starting to play with a bit of consistency for a former #2 pick that lately looks like a rookie.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
I try like hell to root for the guy so I can sleep well for passing on Paul and Deron Williams but Marvin is coming dangerously close to entering Dennis Hopson/Chris Washburn BUST status. Or has he already??
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
no doubt ray. i might have said it wrong. not saying he isn’t playing well but that if he plays the rest of the game like he does in some of these 2nd quarters he’d be in the “elite” category.
can’t stand it when joe starts forcing things on the offensive end.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:38 pm
Could ya’ll imagine Marvin as a Cat-Burglar lol. He would be trippin all over the place smashing stuff lol.
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
8:41 pm
BIG RAY,
horfy ain’t doin’ nathan!! hit 2 points last night. dwight man handled horfy and he ain’t even fite back.
jsmoove is the only one on this team with heart. maybe its the ATL thing. don’t know to many softees from the “A”.
who was that that said we should go after allen iverson? i want to cyber slap him
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:42 pm
Mike N ,
I am afraid there will never be any making up for that. Thing is, it’s not Marvin’s fault anymore than it’s Michael Olowakandi’s fault that somebody picked him number 1.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
8:43 pm
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:45 pm
When is the last time someone on this team provided a spark off the bench and had 20 points? Can’t Teague be that guy? Why will Woodson trust Marvin over Teague? Teague hits a beautiful layup last night and immediately is taken out. The guy is faster than 95 % of the league. Let him stay in. We’re playing a horrific team tonight which will still challenge us hard, but we will still win. Let Teague play 20 minutes, and rest Bibby’s legs.
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
Something that pisses me off that no one talks about is Joe Johnson’s rebounding. 5.5 rebounds in 38 mpg? That is pathetic. He never boxes anyone out. I watch him after shots are taken just standing under the basket. Last night i watched Vince get an easy tip-in because Joe just stood there.
At 6″7 and 240 pounds he should be able to battle some PF’s out there, yet he gets 5.5 boards a game. This number needs to go up for someone his size.
These next 2 games are must-wins.
Woodson, use your bench. Let Teague get a spark. Play Collins. The guy started 2 years in a row in the Finals vs. Shaq & Duncan. I want to see some energy off this bench. Don’t let Marvin play 35 minutes just because he’s 6″9
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
*Someone off the bench besides J-Craw
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:54 pm
Orlando is just way too deep to not go to the Finals this year.
I mean, they got Anderson, AJ, and Bass — players that don’t get big minutes, who can all put up serious numbers when needed. This team doesn’t even need Shard and Vince to score much. This team is just freaking loaded. Did anyone even think during the game that ORL didn’t even have Jameer (an ALL STAR)? Orlando’s 2nd lineup could beat most teams in this league and I mean it.
We have no shot of beating ORL in a series at all. Vince and Shard can hibernate and let Dwight do most of the work, and when teams start hounding him, the Magic have deadly shooters on all cylinders.
We CAN, however, beat Boston and Cleveland.
Kudos to the whole Orlando organization for building such a superb team. Fatigue last night? Yeah right. When you’re 12 deep and have players who know their roles and can hit 3’s from everywhere, you’re going to be this good.
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:58 pm
I still don’t understand Woody not calling a Timeout during that ORL run during the 3rd quarter. I was like, “when is this guy gonna stop the run?”
WTf was said during halftime? It was obvious ORL did NOT want to lose 2 division games in a row, especially after they got completely robbed in that MIA game (should’ve been offensive-goaltending on Beasley). I think 99 % of the other diehard fans on this board could’ve motivated the players at halftime and said the right thing.
Woodson could’ve simply said what Doc Rivers said to his team during our playoff series in 2007: “You gotta hit them down, and when they get up, you gotta hit them down again”
Comments like that should really stick with players. Not this “guys, I don’t care about offense. Just play defense, ok?” or comments similar to that which I’m sure Woody implies. Ha.
Talk to all you Hawks Friends after the game
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
8:45 pm
Anyone else notice Marvin is upright when dribbling, so he has no control over ball. LOL Needs to bend over more (no Homo)
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:46 pm
Ant banks ,
Yeah, he ain’t doin’ much. But they aren’t giving him the ball, either. Dude has had a total of 7 shot attempts in the last game and a half. What do you expect him to do with that? Nobody can score that way.
It’s kinda like Stan Van Gundy getting on Dwight Howard before the game, saying he has to be more aggressive. I look, and Vince Carter is the one taking all the shots. Dwight was taking like 9 shots in one game and maybe 6 or 7 in another. You don’t get the shots, you don’t get the points. Maybe Stan was trying to say something to his team….
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Just like we’ll never make up for drafting that rotten azz Shelden Williams instead of Brandon Roy….man I don’t miss Billy Knight at all, even though he got us Joe and Josh.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:48 pm
I don’t understand why Marvin dribbles standing upright. Doesn’t make any sense when any other time he’s half bent over with that butt of his sticking out. He even walks like that. I hate to rip on the guy, but his play this year has been mostly awful. He’s looked good in a couple games, that’s it.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
Oh well, at least he grabbed 6 rebounds. We needed that, considering that Al and Josh combined have that many, and the only other person even remotely serious about rebounding the ball has been Joe Smith with 5…..
DecDawg
November 27th, 2009
8:53 pm
Marvin just needs a change of scenery. This no movement, 1-on-1, go stand in the corner and wait until someone thinks about passing to you offense is just not working for him. He needs a coach that actually believes in a ball movement and some sort of motion…
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
what is THABEET doin’? and GRIFFIN? so many people came up with crazy scenarios about how we should go up to get THABEET. i ain’t theard nathan from him.
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
wow 6 blocks
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:55 pm
the blogs favorite play. jj iso
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
wtf hawks
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
lookin like the hawks of last year..
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
some ugly basketball
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
We are looking pretty bad out here tonite.
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:58 pm
i’d be pretty upset if i were a sixers fan. they ought to be winning but aren’t taking care of the ball.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:59 pm
Joe made that look easy
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
i understand the frustration with marvin. what i don’t understand is why woody doesn’t try to get him involved in the offense early in the game. they never run plays for him. shoot i’d say marvin and horford go entire halves with barely even touching the ball. it’s hard to gain any offensive rhythm when you don’t touch the ball. chalk it up to bad coaching.
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
wow where the refs at
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
you know that play is coming when jamal runs across the free-throw line.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
man not again…..NOBODYs with a CAREER NIGHTS against us…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Neither team wants to win this game.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Let’s see if Woody uses his bench in the second half or is he gonna play his starters 40 minutes on the second night of a back to back.
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
9:06 pm
WTF? charlotte is whailin’ away on clev? i am still pissed that they beat us
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
Joe Smith getting some minutes here…
Yet to see Teague here in the 2nd half.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
5 second rule, Joe! Don’t hold the ball! Move the Rock!
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
it’s a thing of beauty when our guards actually penetrate, break down the defense and then everyone makes the extra pass. now if they would only do it a little more often.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
Joe starting his ball hoggin
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
Wow Joe get on the bench
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
ya lets screw trying to win this thing. just let jj continue forcing shots. sit that fool!
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
Man get Teague in the game Woody b4 I smack the shine off yo head
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
I’m seriously starting to think someones paying Joe to be selfish
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
9:14 pm
yes or no: does teague start the fourth?
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:15 pm
I’m gettin sick of Woody not giving Teague consistent mins
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:18 pm
I doubt Teague will see the floor again tonite, especially if this one is even close to being tight going down the stretch.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:19 pm
Man, I’m not watching the game, but reading y’all’s comments, you would think we’re down 20 right now. I just checked the score and we’re up 9 after three! CHILL!
Just kidding, boys and girls.
Good to see Bibby and J. Smith stepping it up in the stat line tonight. Let’s close this one out and go beat Detroit in the Motor City in a couple days…
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
I don’t think Teague sees action unless we’re up double digits inside the final five. No use bringing a guy in cold to kick off the fourth with a single digit lead.
Question for those talkin about Joe hogging the ball: He’s only taken six shots through three quarters. What is he doing to hog it? (Not saying he isn’t, but just not seeing it on the stat line…)
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
Bibby’s playing well tonite, but giving Teague consistent minutes would help give Bibby some rest here and there, which would keep him fresh at the end of games – when we really need him.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:21 pm
I hear you Benjamin…but there has to be a time when Woody begins to trust the bench and give them some real minutes. The startes cant play 40 minutes a game especially against a Philly team without 3 of their top players
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:21 pm
Marvin has gone missing. S.O.S. call for Mr. Williams!
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:23 pm
Marvin wont be answering that call
deb1820
November 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Joe is hogging the ball and Marvin is lost.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:25 pm
I’m actually a pro-Teague guy myself — wouldn’t mind seeing him get 15 minutes a game at this point either. Only thing is, he’s kind of buried on the depth chart because Jamal can play both the one and two, and we’re committed to making him our sixth man.
Bibby doesn’t need to be playing 40 minutes a game at almost any point these days. He’s got a lot of wear and tear on those legs, and his recent injury in and of itself means he shouldn’t be pounding the floor that much. He’s playing well tonight, though…
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:25 pm
Damn Marvin is terrible
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:26 pm
Teague wont be coming in unless we are up 10 with a minute to go. It just kills nme to see these rookie guards doing so well with other teams and we all know we got a good one as well and he gets 4 minutes a game.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
I really thought after the Houston/New Orleans set that we had Big Marv back, but the last two nights he’s been invisible. Seven points and two rebounds last night vs. the Magic? Yikes…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
Joe is just having a rough game all the way around, though that 3 he hit was nice. Now he’s got 4 fouls.
See what happens when you give Horford the ball and let him get into a rhythm? He wakes up…
Josh is continuing his strong play, but not getting much on the boards. Jamal is adding a needed boost.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
Marvin blocked again…bailed out by the foul call
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:28 pm
Man, if ‘Nique says “Nimbers” one more time…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
Josh is making one brilliant inside pass after another. Too bad Al Horford doesn’t seem ready for any of them.
CATCH THE BALL, AL!!!!
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
LOL @ Big Ray. At least he hasn’t said heat check too much 2nite
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
We’ve really forced plenty of passes inside today.
Yesterday night, nobody wanted to dish the rock. Tonite, everybody’s forcing the issue trying to zip passes in some tight passing lanes.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
No Nique for me…I am getting the Philly announcers
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Damn, Josh! Way to stick with it!!!
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Dominique = the worst “analyst” in the history of the league, Big Ray. No denying the man’s influence on our franchise history, but the guy is god-awful to listen to…
Horford appears to be putting in another steady performance. I’m really glad we’ve got him.
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:32 pm
Josh has set up some good looks for other guys tonite.
Thought he forced that last one though.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:32 pm
That’s what the Hawks have to do…just what Josh did. Don’t worry about getting the call. Don’t worry about getting blocked. Never give up, and keep going up strong. The kid has “got it.”
Al Horford is shooting well when he actually attacks. He has to quit doing what Joe Johnson does: posture for 5 seconds before finally making a move. He has to use his quickness to his advantage and quit letting slower guys like Jason Smith get a read on what he might try to do.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:33 pm
Again JJ ball hoggin
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:34 pm
Joe, what kind of stupid….8 head fakes later, and you think the guy is still going to go for it?? Then follow up with an airball? Man, bench this guy. He looks like he has the flu, there’s no way he plays this bad normally.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:35 pm
Zaza has only played 4 mins so far lol why is that
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:36 pm
I mean SERIOUSLY…the defender doesn’t go for the first 7 head fakes, he AIN’T GOIN’ FOR THE 8TH ONE EITHER!
Josh hits an almost-three…lol…I know that one made everybody nervous…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:37 pm
You know, the Sixers have to be looking at Josh Smith right now and kicking themselves in the ass with both feet. They HAVE to. Especially with Elton “I can’t play right now” Brand sitting on the bench with his $82 million and a nice suit.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:37 pm
only at an Atlanta Hawks game can you see ducks make steals.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
Josh makes these free throws and it’s ballgame.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
“only at an Atlanta Hawks game can you see ducks make steals.”
LOL…yeah Mac…I don’t think he plays any OTHER games…just the Hawks games….I know where you were tryin’ to go with that, but you goofed, man. It was still funny, though.
Hey, he’s looked awful on offense. At least he’s got 9 rebounds, so he’s contributing something
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:41 pm
No wait, I goofed, you said “ducks” not “duck”….ROFL….I’m blogging like Marvin is playing….
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:43 pm
Damn, Bibby is a straight killer. Good thing he showed up, he’s picking up Joe’s slack.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:44 pm
Ouch. Jamal says “take that!”
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
A win on the road with terrible games by two of our starters? Yeah, I’ll take that.
Peace out, y’all!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
I don’t know if y’all felt this way too, but to me that was a really sloppy game. The box score doesn’t really bear out to me how many poor decisions and bad shots were taken by both teams. Joe Johnson easily played his worst game of the year. Nice to see them get a W, but this now makes three straight games where they haven’t played with the energy they had to start the season.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Glad we won. But man Marvin was just LOST 2nite LMAO.
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Good to be back in the winning column. We didn’t play great, a bit sloppy at times, but we beat a team we were supposed to beat. Good mixture of contributions. Bibby, J Crawford, and Josh all had good games. Horford had a pretty good night as well. JJ’s struggles continued through tonite’s game, but didn’t cost a W, as was the case in previous games.
Feel’s like it’s been forever since we’ve won a game – so I’m happy.
12-4.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Hawks improve their road record! Remains one of best in the League!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 27th, 2009
9:48 pm
Interesting to see Joe Smith get 15 minutes to Zaza’s 5. Considering the way Zaza’s been playing, that could be a change in the depth chart that sticks for a while.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
9:51 pm
Observations from tonight:
1) Great game from Crawford. Wow, this is what I wanted from him last night’s game
2) Joe Johnson pissed me off this entire game. The guy is not a team player. He seems to prefer hogging the ball and keeping games close than being a team player and winning every game. Or at least that’s what I’ve seen in the past few years. Pass the damn ball and stop wasting possessions
3) Marvin Williams cannot dribble a basketball for over 4 seconds without some egregious repercussion occurring
4) MORE IMPORTANT: WHERE THE HELL WAS THE BENCH IN THE 4TH? What would SVG have done here based on last night? He would’ve had ZaZa, Joe Smith, Mo, and Teague in to start the 4th. WTF IS GOING ON HERE? TEAGUE HAD SOLID MINUTES AND 4 POINTS IN THE FIRST HALF. WHY THE HELL DO MARVIN AND HORFORD PLAY THE LAST 10 MINUTES OF THIS GAME? Woodson OBVIOUSLY wants a new contract and is not looking at how these minutes will destroy our team in coming months. We have a brutal, and I mean BRUTAL January coming up in just weeks, and we are using our starters (4+Jamal) against PHILLY? TRUST ZaZa! You just signed the guy to a nice 4 year deal. Joe Smith is as seasoned as they come. Don’t let Marvin play the last 10 minutes when you have nice bench pieces. Big Ray, Ken Strickland, nire…All you AJC Veterans…What do you think about this point?
bigdave
November 27th, 2009
9:54 pm
i thought Philly’s back court athleticism would hurt us but good bounce back ROAD win…
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:56 pm
Hawks have played lots of gritty, playoff bound teams early this season. The schedule can only get better. Hang in their Hawks, win games you are supposed to win and you’ll be alright.
virgil leonard
November 27th, 2009
10:01 pm
I know this may be a little premature but any chance that the Hawks would be willing to send JJ and Marvin Williams to the Magic for Dwight. I think its time he comes home
U GUYS SUCK
November 27th, 2009
10:04 pm
Big Ray,
Marvin will never be a major factor on offense because he is the 5th option on a team that is 11 up and 4 down so quit hating on Marvin, hell he plays good D every night and he hits the boardsHe had 9 rebs tonight.. The real problem with the Hawks are Woodson and Joe Johnson…Joe Johnson blew the game against orlando by hogging the ball..U talk smack about Marvin? How about Joe Johnson slow a– moves to the basket that eats up the shot clock and stops the ball. Joe needs to step up..Becasue really he never has..
cp
November 27th, 2009
10:07 pm
If I was Teague and I played in the first half I would just shower up at half time and catch a cab to the airport and go ahead and make it to the next city because he never gets in for the second half…. We won but it was ugly…. Marvin is whatever. Wake me up when he has a good 5 games in a row. Right now I would settle for 3 in a row, something….. Joe calls out the team earlier in the season for being selfish but he is the epitome of everything he said about the team. Dribble dribble dribble head fake head fake and shoot over multiple defenders…….. Ol Woodrow needs to start benching his starters for sloppy play just like he does the guys on the bench.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
10:07 pm
A trade I would like to see would be JJ + Duck for D.Wade in some convoluted S&T. Then start D.Wade + J-Craw as your 2 or 3. Or offer Marvin and hope Philly thinks he’s good, in hopes of getting Thadd
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
10:10 pm
Some great posts here.
Woody never would bench Joe for sucking. Ppl think Marvin is the sacred cow–it’s really Joe. The guy could shoot 1-35 with 20 turnovers going into the 4th and still play the entire quarter. I am pissed Teague didn’t get more minutes and I’m also pissed Mo cannot produce more numbers
Astro Joe
November 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
I lived in New Jersey for about 1- years and adopted the Nets as my second team (I never disowned the Hawks). So I’m cheering for them tonight against Sacramento… they’re best chance to avoid the worse start in NBA history. GO NETS… win one for Yinka Dare!
RLP
November 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
There are four teams in the East with double digit wins – the big three and the Hawks. No other team in the East has a better record. The Cavs would have had a better record but they lost to the Bobcats. Only the Suns and the Lakers have a better record in the league. The big three in the East is now the big four. Two quality will lose in the second round of the playoffs. What a great year Hawks fans are being treated to. They are winning games on the road that in past years they would have lost. Tell me who is not excited about this team? They came back on the road after a terrible performance at home against another elite team. The difference in this years team from last years team is the continuing maturation of Josh Smith and the addition of Jamal Crawford.
On another note personally I would prefer to trade Jason Collins for Dwight Howard. I mean if people want to make dream trades why shouldn’t we get the best deal possible. It is just as likely as the last proposed trade. Meaning less than zero.
Grandad
November 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
A comment on J.Johnson:
It’s really a good thing that he’s not a rookie. Otherwise he would get yanked when he has an abysmal night as he did last evening and again tonight. Also back to back below par games might cause us to lose 1 or 2 games early on and that may hurt our seeding come play-off time. At least once tonight he did 24 (1 per sec./ exaggeration) shake and bakes at the key area…went nowhere…4 teammates yawned…and he shot a fall away/fade/step back/air ball as the shot clock expired.
My point – Jeff Teague played 5 min.
Our starting pt guard has a bad ankle – we are 2nd game of bck to bck – we win going away – and he only gets ‘5′ min. Obtuse no longer defines MW. “Rookie Slayer” !
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
i don’t understand what’s with the teague man crush. we still have 65 games left. he will get his time. as far as the other teams that are playin’ rookies, its because they HAVE TO. with a healthy bibby, jj, and crawford, we will have to bring teague along slowly.
i thought that we agreed that he wasn’t ready for the big time yet with the new orleans game, i think it was.
kwooden1
November 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
Listened to the game on the radio tonight. Great win, especially with JJ in foul trouble. I thought the substitutions in the first half, were very good by Woodson. He got a lot of quality minutes out of Joe Smith and Teague. I even liked some of Woodson’s substitutions in the 2nd half. If I trust the Yahoo GameChannel Woodson even benched JJ in the 4th for stretches. If that is true, (someone correct me if I’m wrong) then that was the type of move I was looking for last night against Orlando from Woodson. JJ was dribbling to much and slowing down the offensive. Jamal and Bibby were hot and its good to have Marvin on the floor for defensive purposes. JJ’s a big boy and he will get the message. The HAWKS need him to score 20+ and dish out 5 assists per game. He wasn’t doing that tonight, so Crawford should take his minutes. (especially if Bibby is hot!)
I would have liked to see more of Teague, but Bibby was on fire! If Jeff T. starts making his jumpshot, I’m sure we will start to see him in the 2nd half of games.
GO HAWKS!!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
November 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
I didn’t see the game and could care less about how JJ hogs the ball (he ain’t gonna change) of how wack Marvin has been all season (it is what it is) – we cut the streak short at 2 games!!! Last year this sloppy game would have been a loss. We are tied for 1st in the southeast. Let’s get the Detroit and I’m good.
Grandad
November 28th, 2009
12:05 am
ant banks – I have no man crush. MW complained about depth but refuses to expand his bench. I agreed to no such thing after any game. Look, I’m not argueing with you, we just see things differently. It’s not so much a JT thing as a MW thing.
kwooden1 – JT 5 min. tonight. Joe Smith less than 10. Mo played but not that much. Zaza – 16 min., I think. Sorry, old age, I do not remember exact #’s except for JT. J.Crawford played alot and played well.
moboman
November 28th, 2009
12:51 am
Teague has to make a jump shot or two to keep the D honest. Until he is willing to take an occasional shot and make it, his minutes will be given to Jamal, and for good reason. But its a long season. He will get his time when an injury occurs, and will make good on it. Patience all, it WAS a win tonite. But Im gettin tired of watchin JJ dribble too. Pass the ball.
cdog
November 28th, 2009
12:59 am
za za shouldn’t be playing any minutes. until he gets from being nailed to the floor, he should keep his spot warm on the bench. i still don’t know why did we cut garret siler? also, can the hawks find some playing time for jason collier? is he having trouble in areas or something? what we are getting out of za za, collier should be on the floor. pachuia is wasting valuble time when we either need to trade for big man such as amarie stodamauer. as least he and collier ia s active around the basket. za za plays like he has a stave stuck up his back. if the ball didn’t come his way he would never make an effort to get it.
nunna yo biznezz
November 28th, 2009
1:59 am
moboman says: “Teague has to make a jump shot or two to keep the D honest. Until he is willing to take an occasional shot and make it, his minutes will be given to Jamal, and for good reason.”
That may be woody’s thinking,but i doubt it..He just have what “ant banks” says that most of us have about teague,but woody has it with his starters..And thats a man crush,lol…
I love da fact that we have a coach who is a “players coach”,and he should stick by his starters when they have a bad night,he really should.
But,when they are consistently,unconsistent,and he does not show his displeasure during the game with them like he does his bench and start putting their butts on the bench for bad,selfish play,then he will coach himself out of a contract..
Woody,will over use his starters like he is doing jj right now.And,jj will become mysteriously sick,and sit out a few games like he did before all star break last year,and,come back after a few games and shoot lights out..Woody,does not care,its playing for his food time,and he wants it all..
But,what he does not know is that,he is wearing and tearing down his starters,and it is they who will shut him out (like they do now),but,as they get tired from logging so many heavy minutes now..
Player developement is what this guy has no clue of..
None what so ever..
What teague is lacking now is experience and a shot like bibbs.But,you can’t find too many rooks or 1st,2nd,or even 3rd year PG’s who do right now,but what teague lacks is far outgained by what he brings with his game..And,he has more positives than bibbs does with his game right now..
For one,he has 2 healthy ankles……….
2.He has super speed to go around defenders and break down defenses and drive by opponents for easy lay in’s..
3.He is better with one on one defense than bibbs,and he has quick hands which help him with his steals..
4.He plays the inside out game,instead of looking for his buddys to dribble,dribble,dribble,back them down,head fake a few times and shoot,JT passes the ball down low,inside,and lets the bigs play from there..If its not there,they pass it out and he sets up the wingers or himself for drives or close in shots..
I bet,he reads these blogs,and i have to say mr.teague,you have an upbeat attitude considering everything we say on here defending what we see is wasted time with u on the bench..
Keep the attitude up,and continue to play your game. We know as well as u know,that,your a rookie and you have vets ahead of you with minutes being shared by them..But,its just our frustration by this coach that we have seen over the years and the way we have lost out on the developement of our PG’s under him..
And,we don’t want u to go in that same direction..Thats all…
OK??
Nite all..
jean ny
November 28th, 2009
2:13 am
if jamal crawford and joe switches situations n jo eplayed for knicks warriors…would joe still be viewed as the better player…because accoring to most lists joe is a top 20 player in the league…..while crawford is like top 80…iam just sayin i dont think joe is much better maybe alil wha ya think??
MyView
November 28th, 2009
2:22 am
Based on schedule and my read on the Hawks, I see them with a 27-14 record halfway through the season. Where they go from there depends on whether or not they improve in the second half along with the injury virable.
Future Beat Writer/Columnist
November 28th, 2009
2:59 am
Ken,
Growing up in Marietta, I often heard about the legendary Blue Devil and Supersonic career of a sharp shooter named Dale Ellis. I attended his basketball camps and once “beat him” at a game called bump. That was always fun.
But, Dominique Wilkins was my hero. He was a man, who rattled rims inside the Omni, the Boston Garden, and every NBA arena he walked into. Wilkins was the greatest athlete I have ever seen. As a kid, I would religiously watch the Hawks on our cable-less TV. The picture used to fade in and out at times. But, no matter how cloudy the reception became, Dominique was always visible. I can remember trying to emulate his dunks on my Nerf hoops. Unfortunately for those thin plastic rims, I often got so excited that I would destroy them, Darrell Dawkins style.
Dominique had what they call “once in a lifetime” talent. He was Babe Ruth to me. The Wilkins led Hawks may not have won an NBA title, but I’m thankful to have grown up watching #21 play the game.
Check out the human highlight film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyUf-9ruJi8
terrell barron
November 28th, 2009
6:26 am
JJ scored 9 points and we still WON. Learn from this Woody. Enough with the ISO Joe nonsense. We’re a much better team when EVERYONE is involved. Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
al
November 28th, 2009
7:18 am
Come on Woody,if you can stop Josh from hoisting up ill advised 3’s, can’t you stop Joe from hogging the ball? The change in Josh’s game help make this a better team.If Joe stop his dribbling show this team could be even better.
dap01
November 28th, 2009
8:16 am
Woodson is to offensive plays as Willie Martinez is to defense.
Ree Roe
November 28th, 2009
8:34 am
If you hadn’t watched the game & went off of these comments, you woulda sworn we lost by 20 plus. I watched this entire game & although we weren’t 100% sharp, we were never in danger of losing this game & won by 14. Last yr, we lose this game. This yr we took care of business. Would I like to see Marvin play better? Yes. Could we get better ball movement? Yes. Would I like to see more Teague? Yes. But yall know what? We don’t need Marvin scoring 15 a game this yr, that’s why we got Crawford. Ball movement is getting better outside of Joe & Jamal.
As for Teague, homie isn’t running this team when he’s on the floor & he’s a liability on offense. He looks hesitant at times. I’m fine with how Woody is playin him so far. Hawks fans RELAX. This is one of our best starts in team history. Calm down.
-REEcently Roe!
Clyde
November 28th, 2009
8:45 am
NIQUE!!!!!!!!
D.carter
November 28th, 2009
9:15 am
Woody allows joe to pound the ball for 12 seconds… we need to set more high ball screens which creates penetration which creates ball movement and easy shot or shotfake drives, why we dont do this i will never know… Joe is killing the offense believe it or not
rusty
November 28th, 2009
9:54 am
1- jj sulked the whole game,i think he finally might have been told to stop dribbling so much
,pass the ball quicker & stop shooting so much
2- josh comes out the first 3 minutes parked 15 feet from the basket looking like he is sleep
walking,woody quickly pulls him. it appears that the team is getting sick of jj. it appeared
that josh & woody could be fueding again but josh is realizing that woody holds the minutes. it seems that the team wants to have an offense that involes ball movement if they are going to contend for anything. this will be great
TrainWreck
November 28th, 2009
10:13 am
Ree Roe is a fool
ILL-logical
November 28th, 2009
10:24 am
Charles Barkley said last year during the first round serise with the Heat that the Hawks had to make a decision as to whether it was Joe’s team or Josh’s team. That comment takes on greater significance when you look at the current state of affairs regarding Joe’s play.
Josh wants and needs to have a running offense to be at his maximum effectiveness; Joe (and Woodson) prefere a half court offense because he has to guard the other team’s point guard/ best score as well as produce 20+ ppg.Joe has been an All Star and highly compensated player playing in this system and the team has steadily improved over the last 4 years of his enure in Atlanta.
However, this year there are bigger expectations coming from the national media and the local fan base that are focusing scrutiny on the style of play that has been used. The blow outs against top ranked teams were not just bad in and of themselves it was how and why the Hawks lost that is building up some pressure for changes in the way the team operates, inspite of the overall success.
Case in point: for years management and staff has been in lockstep on the subject of Al being a center. Yet in every nationally televised game the commentators all say Al is playing out of position albeit quite well.And tthe beat down inflicted by Dwight Howard didn’t help the team’s argument -neither did Sam Dalembert’s block party last night.
Is the team better than last year-yes,so far. will it continue to grow and improve-that is the question that is yet to be answered but Joe’s recent swoon doesn’t create a sense of optimism.
Ree Roe
November 28th, 2009
10:34 am
Trainwreck how am I a fool? Explain.
-incREEasingly Roe!!!
RLP
November 28th, 2009
11:33 am
ILL-logical:
Good analysis. So far this year their has been more ball movement than in the past. There has also been far less ISO Joe. In one sense I think the good ball movement has actually helped JJ when we have gone into the ISO Joe game. He has been more successful in driving to the basket because teams are aware that if they drop off the other players we have guys who can hit open shots. And when the team does get into the passing game during a half court offensive set they have demonstrated some beautiful passing.But elimination of the ISO Joe will not happen completely. The key is to minimize the times it does occur. And for all of those who are so opposed to it there should be some recognition that it is fairly effective – at times. That does not constitute an endorsement however.
RA
November 28th, 2009
11:48 am
The ISO-JOE or the ISO anyone is the biggest single threat that this team has to being a viable contender in the east. They spent the first half of that Orlando game whopping them like red headed step kids because they were playing as a team. They stopped working their offense and started playing as individuals. It’s not just ISO-JOE it’s ISO-JOSH, ISO-AL, ISO-Marv (on those rare occaisions that Marvin tries to play offense…). But Joe has to set the example. You can’t stand around after a bad loss talking about whether a team is a contender or a pretender after you were the black hole that the ball decended into more often than not. If Joe wants the Hawks to play like an elite team, he’s going to have to be an elite player, making the timely pass as well as the big shot. He’s the captain, setting the example is HIS responsibility.
Rod from College Park
November 28th, 2009
12:04 pm
Great game by Marvin (LOL). I sure wish we had Thad Young.
JeJe
November 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
WOODY LEFT STARTERS IN AT 10 MIN MARK OF 4TH TILL END.
LOL.
COACHING FOR NEW CONTRACT, NOT FOR A DEEP PLAYOFF RUN
USE TEAGUE IN THE 2ND HALF FFS. DON’T BURN DOWN EVERYONE’S LEGS SO WE CAN GET A 13 PT WIN VS THIS MISERABLE PHILLY TEAM
MannyT
November 28th, 2009
12:54 pm
Who will take advantage of the Hawks Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal? Buy ticket to Boston or Cleveland, get seat in similar section for other Dec/Jan game for $10?
EJH
November 28th, 2009
1:03 pm
Watching the Hawks the first 16 games of the season, I have noticed some positives and negatives with the team. And as far as Marvin Williams is concerned, he is averaing 10 points and 5 rebounds per game. Those numbers are close to Ron Artests’s 12 points and 5 boards, and Lamar Odom’s 9 points and 8 boards per game. When you have as many scorers on a team as the hawks or lakers some people are not going to get shots and in either the Hawks case or Lakers it seems to be Marvin here and Lamar and Ron Artest in L.A. And another thing if Marvin played for the Knicks, Timberwolves, or Nets, he would average 20 plus easy because he would be the first, second, or even third option. I will get to the positives and negatives of this team in a later post.
Big Ray
November 28th, 2009
1:54 pm
I bet the Sixers wish they had Josh Smith more than the Hawks wish they had Thad Young…
Benjamin
November 28th, 2009
1:58 pm
So, a day later, I read through these comments again, and I see these criticisms of Joe hogging the ball, and I check the stat sheet.
30 minutes. 8 shots.
If y’all wanted to comment on his poor night scoring wise or four turnovers, I’d understand. He didn’t play well. I guess I would have had to watch the game to see where all this talk is of him hogging the ball, but 8 shots? You want Joe shooting MORE than that, don’t you? Not complain about is ball-hogging…
I’m surprised.
Benjamin
November 28th, 2009
2:02 pm
Big Ray, I’m glad Josh Smith finally listened to someone — Coach Woody, an AAU coach, Harry the Hawk… whoever — and learned what kind of player he’s built to be. Here’s hoping we don’t see him revert to jacking up ill-advised threes, trying to go coast-to-coast dribbling behind his back before throwing no-look passes into the third row, etc.. He needs to be crashing the rim on both ends and harassing the hell out of the other team’s best offensive threat like he’s been doing.
Until this season, I’ve dreaded seeing Smith in the game to the point where I wanted us to keep Chill and let Smith go elsewhere prior to Childress’s signing with the team in Greece. Smith’s always had a world of talent/potential, but his two cent head kept getting in the way. Glad to see he’s doing consistent damage now.
Big Ray
November 28th, 2009
2:03 pm
EJH ,
I don’t know about that. Who does Marvin take the ball away from in NY? Al Harrington? Don’t think so. Wilson Chandler? Ehhh..maybe.. He may average 16+, but not 20+ easily .
In Minnesota, he has to share time with Corey Brewer, who though lacking Marvin’s shooting ability, is still managing Marvin’s level of stats, and Ryan Gomes, who is a bit tougher.
In New Jersey, second year man Chris Douglas-Roberts is getting over 17 and 5 a game, while rookie Terence Williams averages the same as Marvin.
I think Marvin could do more if featured more, but he’s clearly a role player on this team.
It isn’t just Jamal Crawford that is taking up some offense. It’s also Josh Smith and Al Horford. Yeah, Marvin IS the 5th option on this starting lineup. Ever ask yourself why?
I think the answer is popping up every day now. How many games has Marvin stepped up in, where other guys were struggling? He had an opportunity last night, when JJ was struggling. Who stepped up? Bibby. Crawford. Smith. Horford.
If Marvin is good for 20+ on other teams, he should be good for more than just half that on THIS team. Right?
Big Ray
November 28th, 2009
2:13 pm
Benjamin ,
Don’t be surprised. Inaccuracy is an epidemic around here, lol. Yeah, Joe struggled badly last night. It wasn’t that he was being a ball-hog, it was that he forced some things when he really didn’t have to. Fortunately, he didn’t keep playing like that.
Josh Smith is finally getting it, and while it hasn’t made him a 20ppg scorer, games like last night proved just how valuable he is to this team. Here’s the thing: the kid isn’t dumb. Just impatient, and lacking much of the basketball tutoring that so many others have gotten.
You can’t teach what he has: physical skills that are just nuts. But what he has is in such abundance, I don’t think anybody bothered teaching him the fundamentals. So he comes to the NBA, straight from high school, playing like a high schooler. Who was there to mentor him? Al Harrington? Yeah, for a minute, but that guy is anything but a mentor. And Woody is NOT a teacher. He doesn’t have the patience, figuring anybody that comes into the pros IS a pro.
Josh isn’t dumb. Merely impatient. Nobody taught him to pass. He knew how, he just had to figure out WHEN, and how to make GOOD passes, not FLASHY passes. His assist average is not a mistake or fluke. I watched him throw 3 or 4 very good passes inside to Horford and Marvin last night. Passes that got dropped.
He has finally listened to somebody, and is now seeing the dividends it pays to play within his game. He takes far fewer jumpers, but he still needs to have a jumper. Only the absolutely most dominant big men don’t need a jumper (Shaq). The key is to know when to shoot it, and to hit it when needed. Josh is learning that.
Look how he’s playing NOW, and realize that he still doesn’t turn 24 for another week or so…
This kid had to learn to play the game at the highest level, coming straight out of high school, with no fundamentals, and no real mentors (unless you think Rasheed being here for one day or Lorenzen Wright and his popcorn jokes were enough to do the trick).
This is why DJ White and Gerald Green aren’t getting anywhere…
Rod from College Park
November 28th, 2009
2:38 pm
EJH,
Marvin would never average 20 points on any NBA team. If he could score like that he would draw the other teams best defender, or maybe a double team, and he surely could not score then. He can’t score now with the worst defenders in the league guarding him. He is one of the worst small forwards in the league. I’m not sure if he was not on the Hawks if he would still be in the league.
darrell starks
November 28th, 2009
2:46 pm
The bench players have 2 get more min.
1. JOE SMITH IS AVG 9 MIN PER GAME.
2. TEAGUE IS AVG 8 MIN PER GAME.
3. ZAZA IS AVG 13 MIN PER GAME.
4. MAURICE IS AVG 15MIN PER GAME.
woody have 2 bring the mins up especially joe, teague.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
The First Track of Rod's Mind
November 28th, 2009
2:51 pm
Marvin sucks!
The Second Track of Rod's Mind
November 28th, 2009
2:51 pm
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darrell starks
November 28th, 2009
2:52 pm
Joe johnson have 2 stop dribbling the ball so dam much and move the ball around, he was the reason why the hawks lost against the magic, i blame that on coach woody for not addressing that.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
November 28th, 2009
3:10 pm
When woody is coaching and the team is doing bad like against the magic, its like he become confuse out there and wait on some miracle from his starters, he have 2 realize that when the starters is not performing that you can turn 2 your bench for the energy that the team so desperately need in order 2 get back in the game, he have 2 develop a feel for the game as a coach.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
brought to you by another outlandish statement
November 28th, 2009
3:40 pm
Marvin would never average 20 points on any NBA team. If he could score like that he would draw the other teams best defender, or maybe a double team, and he surely could not score then. He can’t score now with the worst defenders in the league guarding him. He is one of the worst small forwards in the league. I’m not sure if he was not on the Hawks if he would still be in the league.
Rod on a stolen laptop used on a bench in a park at some college
November 28th, 2009
3:47 pm
Marvin shouldn’t even be in the NBA. That’s why he got picked second in the draft. Yeah makes sense doesn’t it. I’m dumber than j-smoove’s toe nails. But at least I got this lap top that I stole from some college kid. The little idiot hasn’t figured out to turn the internet service off yet. Now what was I saying. Oh yeah, Marvin shouldn’t be in the league, it’s a tragedy. Players who average double digit scoring in the nba are worthless. Nobody in the league is that bad. Nobody I tell you. Now when is Obama going to give me my bailout. I want my own lap top computer and fresh paint on this bench. And acknowledgement as a basketball player. I can’t believe I didn’t make the local college basketball team as a walk on all those years ago. All because I look like george clinton on crack with a bad case of scoliosis.
RA
November 28th, 2009
5:37 pm
Okay, let me clarify the statements that I made before about Marvin Williams. Mo could be an outstanding scorer in the league. We’ve all seen signs of where he can be absolutely devastating, but he lacks the scorer’s menatlity. Now that takes nothing away from his defense and his unselfishness, and as some of you have pointed out, his numbers are still comparable to some of the better players in the league. He’s also money at the free throw line. You can’t just throw all that out. What you want from Marvin Williams is the same thing that you want from the Hawks at-large, consistancy! There’s no question in my mind that Marvin can make shots. The only question I have about him is his willingness to continue to look for opportunities to take them, but I do believe that he’s a bonified NBA player.
Rod, your point is well taken. Now give that boy back his laptop.
moboman
November 28th, 2009
7:48 pm
cdog — I believe Jason Collier has passed on to the great court upstairs. As for Jason Collins, if we werent going to play him, why didnt we keep Siler as a project? That would be more valuable bench warming space than Collins, wouldnt it?
The Mind of Sanity
November 28th, 2009
8:12 pm
dap01
November 28th, 2009
8:16 am
If you did not want to sound twisted you would compare head coaches to head coaches. Let me help you with a better example.
Woodson is to over achieving what Mark Richt is to underachieving.
I hope that help’s. Woodson is responsible for the Hawks fortunes, not his assistant coaches. Mark Richt is responsible for the Dogs fortunes, or the lack thereof, not his assistant coaches. Ill bet you buck a lot of responsibility at work….You do have a job dont you ?
Its amazing how far this center-less team has come. What I cant understand is how we can call Sund a general manager when he has not and will not address our # 1 deficiency, no center to compete at the higher levels.
N.J. is 0-16 and is going nowhere. They have a 7 foot center who has skills, size and weight. Hes polished and can compete with Howard or Oneal. Hes currently averaging 17.9points and 9 rebounds per game. GO GET THIS GUY LOPEZ!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY PAYING SUND FOR? YOU GET LOPEZ AND KEEP THE NUCLEUS TOGETHER AND WE ARE IN THE TOP THREE AND READY TO K.S.A.!!
FIRE SUND IF HE CANT GET THIS DONE. 0-16? OH YEAH LOPEZ CAN BE GOT!
The Mind of Sanity
November 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
Darrell starks when I want dribble I read your blogs. How about saying something.
JeJe I guess youre right. He knows you cant win with out a center, he doesnt have one and sund aint gonna get him one so I guess you have to play the hand thats dealt you. Deep playoff run…you funny man. This team makes it to the second rounds wins 1 or 2 games and is done for the year. Doesnt matter who’s coaching.
The Mind of Sanity
November 28th, 2009
9:19 pm
Go Hawks!!
Mychelfromatl
November 28th, 2009
10:01 pm
Wow the Buck are looking real good against the Magic. They’re up by 12.
If you wanna watch live online for free, here’s the link:
http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-3.html
RaJaH
November 28th, 2009
10:07 pm
Anyone else read the yahoo article on the Hawks?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApZwFI6h6YVRWg7d5cJ9GZi8vLYF?slug=aw-hawks112609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Oh, still ranked #1 in our fantasy league BTW!
richbrave
November 28th, 2009
10:43 pm
UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND still needs good recruits from the ATLANTA area for both basketball and football. We lose DAVID GONZOLVEZ (SG) and ERIC WARD (Q-back) this year, and KEVIN ANDERSON (PG) will be a rising senior after this season. Great day for SPIDER fans. RICHMOND squeaks by ELON 16-13 in the FCS play-offs while the men’s basketball team just won the South Parde Invitational taking the measure of MISSISSIPPI STATE 63-62 yesterday and MISSOURI 59-52 tonight. Plus the women’s round-ballers cleaned CLEMSON’s clock yesterday. Great sports weekend for RICHMOND.
ant banks
November 28th, 2009
11:48 pm
DARRELL STARKS,
WTF??? we are 12-4 and you are complainin’ that we need to give the bench more minutes? are you effin’ kiddin’ me? woody shouldn’t change ish, why should he. 10 min. for joe smith and zaza? that’s fine, what the hell is wrong with that?
y’all killin’ me wit’ this who needs more minutes ish. pls read some of boston’s blogs, they ain’t cryin’ about their starters minutes!!!
COME ON MAN!!!
Crashing the Glass
November 29th, 2009
1:24 am
What if they replaced Williams with Crawford in the starting 5?
http://crashingtheglass.com/2009/356/step-marvin
Hey loser (aka Crashing the Glass)
November 29th, 2009
2:23 am
No one cares that you have your own blog. Posting little links on every thread just highlights the fact that no one reads your blog. Stop being the douche who thinks his opinion is so valuable that it deserves its own blog. Post your thoughts here like everyone else.
A better question
November 29th, 2009
2:27 am
“What if they replaced Williams with Crawford in the starting 5?”
Here’s a better question: What if we replaced you with someone who actually had something to say here?
darrell starks
November 29th, 2009
2:29 am
ANT BANKS right now we are 12-4 but we still have 2 be optismistic about the hawks, this is a long season and you want keep the team fresh during the season plus keep the bench strong if you want to become one of the elite team in the nba.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
November 29th, 2009
2:52 am
Woody have 2 get marvin more screams plays of picks to get him more invovle and have atleast 10 shots a game, if joe wants 2 be that player find more ways 2 get marvin the ball because we are missing him bad at the 3 position.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
Big Ray
November 29th, 2009
6:41 am
Actually, the guy who writes “Crashing the Glass” is pretty good. I’d recommend reading his articles.
By the way, if all you have to say is insults towards somebody else’s post, then you’re personifying the very thing you’re accusing somebody else of. It doesn’t get much more retarded than that. Know what’s worse than somebody who is being called a loser? The person who runs behind them calling them a loser…repeatedly. Give it up. Obviously YOU are the one who “doesn’t have a life.”
Posting with names like “a better question” and “Hey loser” is cowardly (even on a computer, how sad are YOU?) to say the least. But hey, I guess everybody has to have a vice.
WTF
November 29th, 2009
6:42 am
CAUSE JOE HAVE ONE BAD GAME YALL WANT TO DOWN HIM, HE LEADS THE TEAM IN PASSING NOW HOWS IS THAT BEING A BALL HAWG DUMB ASSES, HES THE REASON WHY THE TEAM IS DOING SO WELL AND THE OTHER PLAYERS, WHAT YALL SAY IS NOT GONNA CHANGE SO BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT!!!
Big Ray
November 29th, 2009
6:53 am
Ant Banks ,
I agree that Woody shouldn’t make too many radical changes. However, the theme from last year was that we shouldn’t change anything, including the minutes some of our starters are playing. As I recall, Joe Johnson had a less than spectacular playoff performance, we limped through the first round (which we barely won, against a team that we should have beaten 4 games to 2), then we didn’t show up in Cleveland. Everybody was hurt and/or worn out. Josh Smith was our leading scorer, and he wasn’t even playing all that great.
If that happens again, we run the chance of facing a tougher first round opponent, one that could knock us out in 7 games. Even the best teams rest their starters, especially down the stretch. San Antonio does it with Duncan. Shaq’s been doing it for years. L.A. will rest Gasol and Kobe. I’ll tell you why Boston’s fans aren’t screeching about minutes: because none of their starters are playing more 35 mpg…
Big Ray
November 29th, 2009
7:10 am
Bobcats beat up on the Wizards last night. Talk about a tale of two teams going in opposite directions.
During the preseason, all the talk was about how we would have to battle Agent Zero and his crew for the 4th seed this season. As if they had already won that spot, and we had to hope we could play well enough to challenge them.
Meanwhile, Larry Brown was drawing criticism and the Bobcats were struggling to score, and slotted as Eastern Conference doormats. Well, I respect that team and that coach. Now, they are playing better than ever, and they have dual threats in Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson. They haven’t gotten back to .500 or better ball yet, but they will.
All this time, the Hawks have won, and won, and won. Even the most reluctant of experts has to acknowledge what they’re able to do now. All this team has to do is keep winning.
RA
November 29th, 2009
7:41 am
I don’t think anyone is downing Joe. He’s my favorite player, and I have great respect for him as both a player and a person. HOWEVER, and I want to be absolutely clear, he has got to make good decisions on offense. If you dribble the ball for 20 seconds looking for your shot and then pass it, no, you haven’t taken a shot, BUT you still haven’t had a good offensive possession, and that’s what Joe does sometimes, actually more than any other player on the Hawks roster. Now, here’s the thing, he’s been VERY outspoken after losses this season, more so than any other year he’s been with the team. Maybe that’s because his expectations for this season are so much higher, maybe it’s because he’s going to be a FA at the end of the year, I don’t know. One things for sure, if you’re going to talk as much as he’s talking, you need to back it up with smart play, and he needs to work on that.
Clyde
November 29th, 2009
8:52 am
THE TIDE IS COMING TO TOWN!!!
Saturday night is just another step on the quest for National Championship #13.
vava74
November 29th, 2009
9:02 am
Clyde,
with all due respect, no one but you cares about your crimson dudes around here.
Talk about the hawks or anything bball related please. Don’t you have a Alabama blog where you can vent your enthusiam?
When Sekou was around here it was understandable since he frequently talked about his sweetheart and only love (michigan). Now I think it is out of place unless you intend to annoy GT or G fans…
Unless you want me to start showing my support for my portuguese soccer team around here as well…
Clyde
November 29th, 2009
9:07 am
Vasa that was funny.
ROLL TIDE!!!!!!
vava74
November 29th, 2009
9:16 am
Why don’t you throw in a “Fire Woody”?
ant banks
November 29th, 2009
9:17 am
BIG RAY AND D. STARKS,
i think that woody has been judicious in his minutes distribution. i think that jj has gone over 40min in 2 games. every one has been gettin’ respites.
and those of you who are clammoring for more minutes for teague, need to chill. between all of our 1’s and 2’s he will get minutes when we are up double digits goin’ into the 4th qtr. he will get his in time, but he ain’t ready now.
ILL-logical
November 29th, 2009
9:36 am
A scary thought: the Hawks facing an Allen Iverson led Sixers squad in the first round of the playoffs.
The Sixers would have more (and better athletes), a center who seems to live to play the Hawks and a guard that no one on the Hawks team can guard.
The reality is that Friday’s victory was more about the Sixers’ unforced turnovers than the Hawks dominating play. Iverson could,and I stress could here, be ..ok wait for it… the answer to that problem.
RLP
November 29th, 2009
10:26 am
There is a story in today’s New York Times that discusses the Hawks. It can be found at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/sports/basketball/29beck.html?_r=1&ref=sports
The story says that the Hawks were considered a second tier team in the season preview magazines. They stated that by last week the Hawks had made most pundits change their view that the East’s Big Three was now the Big Four based on Hawks wins over Boston, the Nuggets and the Trailblazers. But after their loss to the Magic discussion of a Big Four might be premature.
The Mind of Sanity the sequel
November 29th, 2009
7:49 pm
Same problem, same answer,
The Mind of Sanity
November 28th, 2009
8:12 pm
dap01
November 28th, 2009
8:16 am
If you did not want to sound twisted you would compare head coaches to head coaches. Let me help you with a better example.
Woodson is to over achieving what Mark Richt is to underachieving.
I hope that help’s. Woodson is responsible for the Hawks fortunes, not his assistant coaches. Mark Richt is responsible for the Dogs fortunes, or the lack thereof, not his assistant coaches. Ill bet you buck a lot of responsibility at work….You do have a job dont you ?
Its amazing how far this center-less team has come. What I cant understand is how we can call Sund a general manager when he has not and will not address our # 1 deficiency, no center to compete at the higher levels.
N.J. is 0-16 and is going nowhere. They have a 7 foot center who has skills, size and weight. Hes polished and can compete with Howard or Oneal. Hes currently averaging 17.9points and 9 rebounds per game. GO GET THIS GUY LOPEZ!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY PAYING SUND FOR? YOU GET LOPEZ AND KEEP THE NUCLEUS TOGETHER AND WE ARE IN THE TOP THREE AND READY TO K.S.A.!!
FIRE SUND IF HE CANT GET THIS DONE. 0-16? OH YEAH LOPEZ CAN BE GOT!