7:09 pm November 27, 2009, by Ken Sugiura
Greetings, all-
We’ve got a pretty good test for a number of reasons.
You’d have to think this is a game the Hawks should win, particularly if they’re torqued off about how they finished last night. The Hawks are a better team than Philly, plus the Sixers are missing point guard Lou Williams. Philly has lost eight of 10.
One thing to watch will be how the Hawks respond from the patterns of their second-half debacle, particularly how well they move the ball in the half court.
On to the game.
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Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:21 pm
Marvin has gone missing. S.O.S. call for Mr. Williams!
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:23 pm
Marvin wont be answering that call
deb1820
November 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Joe is hogging the ball and Marvin is lost.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:25 pm
I’m actually a pro-Teague guy myself — wouldn’t mind seeing him get 15 minutes a game at this point either. Only thing is, he’s kind of buried on the depth chart because Jamal can play both the one and two, and we’re committed to making him our sixth man.
Bibby doesn’t need to be playing 40 minutes a game at almost any point these days. He’s got a lot of wear and tear on those legs, and his recent injury in and of itself means he shouldn’t be pounding the floor that much. He’s playing well tonight, though…
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:25 pm
Damn Marvin is terrible
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:26 pm
Teague wont be coming in unless we are up 10 with a minute to go. It just kills nme to see these rookie guards doing so well with other teams and we all know we got a good one as well and he gets 4 minutes a game.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
I really thought after the Houston/New Orleans set that we had Big Marv back, but the last two nights he’s been invisible. Seven points and two rebounds last night vs. the Magic? Yikes…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
Joe is just having a rough game all the way around, though that 3 he hit was nice. Now he’s got 4 fouls.
See what happens when you give Horford the ball and let him get into a rhythm? He wakes up…
Josh is continuing his strong play, but not getting much on the boards. Jamal is adding a needed boost.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
Marvin blocked again…bailed out by the foul call
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:28 pm
Man, if ‘Nique says “Nimbers” one more time…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
Josh is making one brilliant inside pass after another. Too bad Al Horford doesn’t seem ready for any of them.
CATCH THE BALL, AL!!!!
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
LOL @ Big Ray. At least he hasn’t said heat check too much 2nite
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
We’ve really forced plenty of passes inside today.
Yesterday night, nobody wanted to dish the rock. Tonite, everybody’s forcing the issue trying to zip passes in some tight passing lanes.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
No Nique for me…I am getting the Philly announcers
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Damn, Josh! Way to stick with it!!!
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Dominique = the worst “analyst” in the history of the league, Big Ray. No denying the man’s influence on our franchise history, but the guy is god-awful to listen to…
Horford appears to be putting in another steady performance. I’m really glad we’ve got him.
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:32 pm
Josh has set up some good looks for other guys tonite.
Thought he forced that last one though.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:32 pm
That’s what the Hawks have to do…just what Josh did. Don’t worry about getting the call. Don’t worry about getting blocked. Never give up, and keep going up strong. The kid has “got it.”
Al Horford is shooting well when he actually attacks. He has to quit doing what Joe Johnson does: posture for 5 seconds before finally making a move. He has to use his quickness to his advantage and quit letting slower guys like Jason Smith get a read on what he might try to do.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:33 pm
Again JJ ball hoggin
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:34 pm
Joe, what kind of stupid….8 head fakes later, and you think the guy is still going to go for it?? Then follow up with an airball? Man, bench this guy. He looks like he has the flu, there’s no way he plays this bad normally.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:35 pm
Zaza has only played 4 mins so far lol why is that
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:36 pm
I mean SERIOUSLY…the defender doesn’t go for the first 7 head fakes, he AIN’T GOIN’ FOR THE 8TH ONE EITHER!
Josh hits an almost-three…lol…I know that one made everybody nervous…
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:37 pm
You know, the Sixers have to be looking at Josh Smith right now and kicking themselves in the ass with both feet. They HAVE to. Especially with Elton “I can’t play right now” Brand sitting on the bench with his $82 million and a nice suit.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:37 pm
only at an Atlanta Hawks game can you see ducks make steals.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
Josh makes these free throws and it’s ballgame.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
“only at an Atlanta Hawks game can you see ducks make steals.”
LOL…yeah Mac…I don’t think he plays any OTHER games…just the Hawks games….I know where you were tryin’ to go with that, but you goofed, man. It was still funny, though.
Hey, he’s looked awful on offense. At least he’s got 9 rebounds, so he’s contributing something
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:41 pm
No wait, I goofed, you said “ducks” not “duck”….ROFL….I’m blogging like Marvin is playing….
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:43 pm
Damn, Bibby is a straight killer. Good thing he showed up, he’s picking up Joe’s slack.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:44 pm
Ouch. Jamal says “take that!”
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
A win on the road with terrible games by two of our starters? Yeah, I’ll take that.
Peace out, y’all!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
I don’t know if y’all felt this way too, but to me that was a really sloppy game. The box score doesn’t really bear out to me how many poor decisions and bad shots were taken by both teams. Joe Johnson easily played his worst game of the year. Nice to see them get a W, but this now makes three straight games where they haven’t played with the energy they had to start the season.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Glad we won. But man Marvin was just LOST 2nite LMAO.
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Good to be back in the winning column. We didn’t play great, a bit sloppy at times, but we beat a team we were supposed to beat. Good mixture of contributions. Bibby, J Crawford, and Josh all had good games. Horford had a pretty good night as well. JJ’s struggles continued through tonite’s game, but didn’t cost a W, as was the case in previous games.
Feel’s like it’s been forever since we’ve won a game – so I’m happy.
12-4.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Hawks improve their road record! Remains one of best in the League!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 27th, 2009
9:48 pm
Interesting to see Joe Smith get 15 minutes to Zaza’s 5. Considering the way Zaza’s been playing, that could be a change in the depth chart that sticks for a while.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
9:51 pm
Observations from tonight:
1) Great game from Crawford. Wow, this is what I wanted from him last night’s game
2) Joe Johnson pissed me off this entire game. The guy is not a team player. He seems to prefer hogging the ball and keeping games close than being a team player and winning every game. Or at least that’s what I’ve seen in the past few years. Pass the damn ball and stop wasting possessions
3) Marvin Williams cannot dribble a basketball for over 4 seconds without some egregious repercussion occurring
4) MORE IMPORTANT: WHERE THE HELL WAS THE BENCH IN THE 4TH? What would SVG have done here based on last night? He would’ve had ZaZa, Joe Smith, Mo, and Teague in to start the 4th. WTF IS GOING ON HERE? TEAGUE HAD SOLID MINUTES AND 4 POINTS IN THE FIRST HALF. WHY THE HELL DO MARVIN AND HORFORD PLAY THE LAST 10 MINUTES OF THIS GAME? Woodson OBVIOUSLY wants a new contract and is not looking at how these minutes will destroy our team in coming months. We have a brutal, and I mean BRUTAL January coming up in just weeks, and we are using our starters (4+Jamal) against PHILLY? TRUST ZaZa! You just signed the guy to a nice 4 year deal. Joe Smith is as seasoned as they come. Don’t let Marvin play the last 10 minutes when you have nice bench pieces. Big Ray, Ken Strickland, nire…All you AJC Veterans…What do you think about this point?
bigdave
November 27th, 2009
9:54 pm
i thought Philly’s back court athleticism would hurt us but good bounce back ROAD win…
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:56 pm
Hawks have played lots of gritty, playoff bound teams early this season. The schedule can only get better. Hang in their Hawks, win games you are supposed to win and you’ll be alright.
virgil leonard
November 27th, 2009
10:01 pm
I know this may be a little premature but any chance that the Hawks would be willing to send JJ and Marvin Williams to the Magic for Dwight. I think its time he comes home
U GUYS SUCK
November 27th, 2009
10:04 pm
Big Ray,
Marvin will never be a major factor on offense because he is the 5th option on a team that is 11 up and 4 down so quit hating on Marvin, hell he plays good D every night and he hits the boardsHe had 9 rebs tonight.. The real problem with the Hawks are Woodson and Joe Johnson…Joe Johnson blew the game against orlando by hogging the ball..U talk smack about Marvin? How about Joe Johnson slow a– moves to the basket that eats up the shot clock and stops the ball. Joe needs to step up..Becasue really he never has..
cp
November 27th, 2009
10:07 pm
If I was Teague and I played in the first half I would just shower up at half time and catch a cab to the airport and go ahead and make it to the next city because he never gets in for the second half…. We won but it was ugly…. Marvin is whatever. Wake me up when he has a good 5 games in a row. Right now I would settle for 3 in a row, something….. Joe calls out the team earlier in the season for being selfish but he is the epitome of everything he said about the team. Dribble dribble dribble head fake head fake and shoot over multiple defenders…….. Ol Woodrow needs to start benching his starters for sloppy play just like he does the guys on the bench.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
10:07 pm
A trade I would like to see would be JJ + Duck for D.Wade in some convoluted S&T. Then start D.Wade + J-Craw as your 2 or 3. Or offer Marvin and hope Philly thinks he’s good, in hopes of getting Thadd
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
10:10 pm
Some great posts here.
Woody never would bench Joe for sucking. Ppl think Marvin is the sacred cow–it’s really Joe. The guy could shoot 1-35 with 20 turnovers going into the 4th and still play the entire quarter. I am pissed Teague didn’t get more minutes and I’m also pissed Mo cannot produce more numbers
Astro Joe
November 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
I lived in New Jersey for about 1- years and adopted the Nets as my second team (I never disowned the Hawks). So I’m cheering for them tonight against Sacramento… they’re best chance to avoid the worse start in NBA history. GO NETS… win one for Yinka Dare!
RLP
November 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
There are four teams in the East with double digit wins – the big three and the Hawks. No other team in the East has a better record. The Cavs would have had a better record but they lost to the Bobcats. Only the Suns and the Lakers have a better record in the league. The big three in the East is now the big four. Two quality will lose in the second round of the playoffs. What a great year Hawks fans are being treated to. They are winning games on the road that in past years they would have lost. Tell me who is not excited about this team? They came back on the road after a terrible performance at home against another elite team. The difference in this years team from last years team is the continuing maturation of Josh Smith and the addition of Jamal Crawford.
On another note personally I would prefer to trade Jason Collins for Dwight Howard. I mean if people want to make dream trades why shouldn’t we get the best deal possible. It is just as likely as the last proposed trade. Meaning less than zero.
Grandad
November 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
A comment on J.Johnson:
It’s really a good thing that he’s not a rookie. Otherwise he would get yanked when he has an abysmal night as he did last evening and again tonight. Also back to back below par games might cause us to lose 1 or 2 games early on and that may hurt our seeding come play-off time. At least once tonight he did 24 (1 per sec./ exaggeration) shake and bakes at the key area…went nowhere…4 teammates yawned…and he shot a fall away/fade/step back/air ball as the shot clock expired.
My point – Jeff Teague played 5 min.
Our starting pt guard has a bad ankle – we are 2nd game of bck to bck – we win going away – and he only gets ‘5′ min. Obtuse no longer defines MW. “Rookie Slayer” !
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
i don’t understand what’s with the teague man crush. we still have 65 games left. he will get his time. as far as the other teams that are playin’ rookies, its because they HAVE TO. with a healthy bibby, jj, and crawford, we will have to bring teague along slowly.
i thought that we agreed that he wasn’t ready for the big time yet with the new orleans game, i think it was.
kwooden1
November 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
Listened to the game on the radio tonight. Great win, especially with JJ in foul trouble. I thought the substitutions in the first half, were very good by Woodson. He got a lot of quality minutes out of Joe Smith and Teague. I even liked some of Woodson’s substitutions in the 2nd half. If I trust the Yahoo GameChannel Woodson even benched JJ in the 4th for stretches. If that is true, (someone correct me if I’m wrong) then that was the type of move I was looking for last night against Orlando from Woodson. JJ was dribbling to much and slowing down the offensive. Jamal and Bibby were hot and its good to have Marvin on the floor for defensive purposes. JJ’s a big boy and he will get the message. The HAWKS need him to score 20+ and dish out 5 assists per game. He wasn’t doing that tonight, so Crawford should take his minutes. (especially if Bibby is hot!)
I would have liked to see more of Teague, but Bibby was on fire! If Jeff T. starts making his jumpshot, I’m sure we will start to see him in the 2nd half of games.
GO HAWKS!!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
November 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
I didn’t see the game and could care less about how JJ hogs the ball (he ain’t gonna change) of how wack Marvin has been all season (it is what it is) – we cut the streak short at 2 games!!! Last year this sloppy game would have been a loss. We are tied for 1st in the southeast. Let’s get the Detroit and I’m good.
Grandad
November 28th, 2009
12:05 am
ant banks – I have no man crush. MW complained about depth but refuses to expand his bench. I agreed to no such thing after any game. Look, I’m not argueing with you, we just see things differently. It’s not so much a JT thing as a MW thing.
kwooden1 – JT 5 min. tonight. Joe Smith less than 10. Mo played but not that much. Zaza – 16 min., I think. Sorry, old age, I do not remember exact #’s except for JT. J.Crawford played alot and played well.