7:09 pm November 27, 2009, by Ken Sugiura
Greetings, all-
We’ve got a pretty good test for a number of reasons.
You’d have to think this is a game the Hawks should win, particularly if they’re torqued off about how they finished last night. The Hawks are a better team than Philly, plus the Sixers are missing point guard Lou Williams. Philly has lost eight of 10.
One thing to watch will be how the Hawks respond from the patterns of their second-half debacle, particularly how well they move the ball in the half court.
On to the game.
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BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
Marvin has the worst coordination I have ever seen ona human
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
yea marvin might be a lil slow
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
Honest Abe ,
I hear you, but Josh is playing better than almost any other Hawk these days. Seriously. Superstar Joe is on the bench with three fouls. The only other dude acting like a pro is Bibby. Horford is playing okay, but nothing great.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
The only reason Marvin gets minutes is because Mike Woodson’s his step dad. Little known are these facts.
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
nice defense by evans.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
LOL @ Mac
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
Hah! You’ll never get the Sixers to go for that one. You don’t give up a 7 foot plus center who is finally starting to play with a bit of consistency for a former #2 pick that lately looks like a rookie.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
I try like hell to root for the guy so I can sleep well for passing on Paul and Deron Williams but Marvin is coming dangerously close to entering Dennis Hopson/Chris Washburn BUST status. Or has he already??
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
no doubt ray. i might have said it wrong. not saying he isn’t playing well but that if he plays the rest of the game like he does in some of these 2nd quarters he’d be in the “elite” category.
can’t stand it when joe starts forcing things on the offensive end.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
8:38 pm
Could ya’ll imagine Marvin as a Cat-Burglar lol. He would be trippin all over the place smashing stuff lol.
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
8:41 pm
BIG RAY,
horfy ain’t doin’ nathan!! hit 2 points last night. dwight man handled horfy and he ain’t even fite back.
jsmoove is the only one on this team with heart. maybe its the ATL thing. don’t know to many softees from the “A”.
who was that that said we should go after allen iverson? i want to cyber slap him
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:42 pm
Mike N ,
I am afraid there will never be any making up for that. Thing is, it’s not Marvin’s fault anymore than it’s Michael Olowakandi’s fault that somebody picked him number 1.
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
8:43 pm
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:45 pm
When is the last time someone on this team provided a spark off the bench and had 20 points? Can’t Teague be that guy? Why will Woodson trust Marvin over Teague? Teague hits a beautiful layup last night and immediately is taken out. The guy is faster than 95 % of the league. Let him stay in. We’re playing a horrific team tonight which will still challenge us hard, but we will still win. Let Teague play 20 minutes, and rest Bibby’s legs.
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
Something that pisses me off that no one talks about is Joe Johnson’s rebounding. 5.5 rebounds in 38 mpg? That is pathetic. He never boxes anyone out. I watch him after shots are taken just standing under the basket. Last night i watched Vince get an easy tip-in because Joe just stood there.
At 6″7 and 240 pounds he should be able to battle some PF’s out there, yet he gets 5.5 boards a game. This number needs to go up for someone his size.
These next 2 games are must-wins.
Woodson, use your bench. Let Teague get a spark. Play Collins. The guy started 2 years in a row in the Finals vs. Shaq & Duncan. I want to see some energy off this bench. Don’t let Marvin play 35 minutes just because he’s 6″9
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
*Someone off the bench besides J-Craw
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:54 pm
Orlando is just way too deep to not go to the Finals this year.
I mean, they got Anderson, AJ, and Bass — players that don’t get big minutes, who can all put up serious numbers when needed. This team doesn’t even need Shard and Vince to score much. This team is just freaking loaded. Did anyone even think during the game that ORL didn’t even have Jameer (an ALL STAR)? Orlando’s 2nd lineup could beat most teams in this league and I mean it.
We have no shot of beating ORL in a series at all. Vince and Shard can hibernate and let Dwight do most of the work, and when teams start hounding him, the Magic have deadly shooters on all cylinders.
We CAN, however, beat Boston and Cleveland.
Kudos to the whole Orlando organization for building such a superb team. Fatigue last night? Yeah right. When you’re 12 deep and have players who know their roles and can hit 3’s from everywhere, you’re going to be this good.
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JeJe
November 27th, 2009
6:58 pm
I still don’t understand Woody not calling a Timeout during that ORL run during the 3rd quarter. I was like, “when is this guy gonna stop the run?”
WTf was said during halftime? It was obvious ORL did NOT want to lose 2 division games in a row, especially after they got completely robbed in that MIA game (should’ve been offensive-goaltending on Beasley). I think 99 % of the other diehard fans on this board could’ve motivated the players at halftime and said the right thing.
Woodson could’ve simply said what Doc Rivers said to his team during our playoff series in 2007: “You gotta hit them down, and when they get up, you gotta hit them down again”
Comments like that should really stick with players. Not this “guys, I don’t care about offense. Just play defense, ok?” or comments similar to that which I’m sure Woody implies. Ha.
Talk to all you Hawks Friends after the game
JeJe
November 27th, 2009
8:45 pm
Anyone else notice Marvin is upright when dribbling, so he has no control over ball. LOL Needs to bend over more (no Homo)
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:46 pm
Ant banks ,
Yeah, he ain’t doin’ much. But they aren’t giving him the ball, either. Dude has had a total of 7 shot attempts in the last game and a half. What do you expect him to do with that? Nobody can score that way.
It’s kinda like Stan Van Gundy getting on Dwight Howard before the game, saying he has to be more aggressive. I look, and Vince Carter is the one taking all the shots. Dwight was taking like 9 shots in one game and maybe 6 or 7 in another. You don’t get the shots, you don’t get the points. Maybe Stan was trying to say something to his team….
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Just like we’ll never make up for drafting that rotten azz Shelden Williams instead of Brandon Roy….man I don’t miss Billy Knight at all, even though he got us Joe and Josh.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:48 pm
I don’t understand why Marvin dribbles standing upright. Doesn’t make any sense when any other time he’s half bent over with that butt of his sticking out. He even walks like that. I hate to rip on the guy, but his play this year has been mostly awful. He’s looked good in a couple games, that’s it.
Big Ray
November 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
Oh well, at least he grabbed 6 rebounds. We needed that, considering that Al and Josh combined have that many, and the only other person even remotely serious about rebounding the ball has been Joe Smith with 5…..
DecDawg
November 27th, 2009
8:53 pm
Marvin just needs a change of scenery. This no movement, 1-on-1, go stand in the corner and wait until someone thinks about passing to you offense is just not working for him. He needs a coach that actually believes in a ball movement and some sort of motion…
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
what is THABEET doin’? and GRIFFIN? so many people came up with crazy scenarios about how we should go up to get THABEET. i ain’t theard nathan from him.
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
wow 6 blocks
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:55 pm
the blogs favorite play. jj iso
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
wtf hawks
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
lookin like the hawks of last year..
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
some ugly basketball
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
We are looking pretty bad out here tonite.
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
8:58 pm
i’d be pretty upset if i were a sixers fan. they ought to be winning but aren’t taking care of the ball.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
8:59 pm
Joe made that look easy
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
i understand the frustration with marvin. what i don’t understand is why woody doesn’t try to get him involved in the offense early in the game. they never run plays for him. shoot i’d say marvin and horford go entire halves with barely even touching the ball. it’s hard to gain any offensive rhythm when you don’t touch the ball. chalk it up to bad coaching.
J.J.M.
November 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
wow where the refs at
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
you know that play is coming when jamal runs across the free-throw line.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
man not again…..NOBODYs with a CAREER NIGHTS against us…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
November 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Neither team wants to win this game.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Let’s see if Woody uses his bench in the second half or is he gonna play his starters 40 minutes on the second night of a back to back.
ant banks
November 27th, 2009
9:06 pm
WTF? charlotte is whailin’ away on clev? i am still pissed that they beat us
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
Joe Smith getting some minutes here…
Yet to see Teague here in the 2nd half.
Blast
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
5 second rule, Joe! Don’t hold the ball! Move the Rock!
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
it’s a thing of beauty when our guards actually penetrate, break down the defense and then everyone makes the extra pass. now if they would only do it a little more often.
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
Joe starting his ball hoggin
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
Wow Joe get on the bench
honest_abe
November 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
ya lets screw trying to win this thing. just let jj continue forcing shots. sit that fool!
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
Man get Teague in the game Woody b4 I smack the shine off yo head
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
I’m seriously starting to think someones paying Joe to be selfish
Ken Sugiura
November 27th, 2009
9:14 pm
yes or no: does teague start the fourth?
BONE
November 27th, 2009
9:15 pm
I’m gettin sick of Woody not giving Teague consistent mins
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:18 pm
I doubt Teague will see the floor again tonite, especially if this one is even close to being tight going down the stretch.
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:19 pm
Man, I’m not watching the game, but reading y’all’s comments, you would think we’re down 20 right now. I just checked the score and we’re up 9 after three! CHILL!
Just kidding, boys and girls.
Good to see Bibby and J. Smith stepping it up in the stat line tonight. Let’s close this one out and go beat Detroit in the Motor City in a couple days…
Benjamin
November 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
I don’t think Teague sees action unless we’re up double digits inside the final five. No use bringing a guy in cold to kick off the fourth with a single digit lead.
Question for those talkin about Joe hogging the ball: He’s only taken six shots through three quarters. What is he doing to hog it? (Not saying he isn’t, but just not seeing it on the stat line…)
Wabe
November 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
Bibby’s playing well tonite, but giving Teague consistent minutes would help give Bibby some rest here and there, which would keep him fresh at the end of games – when we really need him.
Mike N.
November 27th, 2009
9:21 pm
I hear you Benjamin…but there has to be a time when Woody begins to trust the bench and give them some real minutes. The startes cant play 40 minutes a game especially against a Philly team without 3 of their top players