Magic-Hawks

Happy Thanksgiving, all-

I hope you all have had joyful times of sharing with family and friends today before settling into some Hawks basketball. (and thanks, Honest Abe, for the kind words about the story. And, while I’m on that topic, thanks to all of you all for making me feel welcome in your space and for all of your encouragement. It’s made this a lot of fun.)

7:10 p.m. Mike Bibby will go. He tested out his ankle at shootaround and evidently feels good enough to go. He said he can go as long as necessary.

“I wouldn’t be dressing if I couldn’t,” he said.

Also, he and Joe Johnson have all-red Jordans, and it looks like those wearing headbands (Bibby, Josh Smith, Teague) are going red.

Also, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said he told Dwight Howard to be more aggressive with the ball. Remarkable stat — In the last five games, Howard’s shot totals – 5, 7, 4, 13, 5). He averaged 12.4 shots per game last year and 11.9 a year before that.

The Hawks’ PR staff says Mike Bibby is a game-time decision. He participated in the shootaround, which leads me to think he’ll play some, but perhaps his minutes might be limited.

One thing worth noting – Magic point guard Jason Williams played 39 minutes on his 34-year-old legs last night, three days after playing 39, so he might not have so much in his tank, either.

Got a tight deadline tonight, so don’t know how much I’ll be able to participate on the blog, but I’ll do my best.

Some links: a pre-game scouting report from the Orlando Sentinel

Some more national love: Yahoo! sports weighs in

An NESN.com (New England sports cable network) story on the Hawks.

Hope you’ve all had a Happy Thanksgiving. Let’s see what happens tonight…

311 comments Add your comment

Bill Heller

November 26th, 2009
6:15 pm

Bill Heller

November 26th, 2009
6:15 pm

Bill Heller

November 26th, 2009
6:16 pm

Blogs have never been so much fun! GO HAWKS!

Boy

November 26th, 2009
6:26 pm

hawks need to win tonight to prove they are for real. go hawks.

Blast

November 26th, 2009
6:51 pm

KS!

Keep the links coming! Thanks. Never seen Hawks garner so much national attention before. They must win tonight!

Mike Woodson

November 26th, 2009
7:02 pm

This is dedicated to nunna yo biznezz and the others busters

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gx36_tlc-no-scrubs_music

Ben

November 26th, 2009
7:05 pm

Hawks always have trouble with good big men. But they can win tonight if Josh Smith play big.

Mike Woodson

November 26th, 2009
7:08 pm

Ben Check that horford must play big! Hes my center!

Ken Sugiura

November 26th, 2009
7:14 pm

Bibby will play. Check top of the blog for details.

JeJe

November 26th, 2009
7:31 pm

Gotta slow down Vince and Ryan anderson.

SH1t they have shard too

Coach T

November 26th, 2009
7:32 pm

Go Hawks! Great to have the spotlight on Thanksgiving Night on TNT.
Glad to hear Bibby can go. Maybe Teague will get some extra minutes as well as Crawford to spell him. I like Crawford coming in as 6th man to give the Hawks a lift and extra punch. Hard for teams to counter that when he plays well. Saw the Hawks play in Philips against N.O. Hope we bring that energy tonight and make Orlando see Red. Not sure I like a uni with an abbreviated ATL on it however. Would like to see the unis say “Hawks” or “Atlanta” rather than the abbreviation. Just my 2 cents on that. Looking forward to the game. We’re hunkered down around the tube here in south Georgia waiting on some hoops.

Ben

November 26th, 2009
7:33 pm

Josh Smith can help horford out…I don’t think Horford can handle Horward by himself.

JeJe

November 26th, 2009
7:46 pm

Woodson has done a solid job this year.

However, we need to use Crawford to exploit matchups more. It’s obvious Posey was on JJ the other night, so why did we not Iso Crawford on EVERY Possession and let him work his magic? NO ONE in the NBA can guard this guy

mychelfromatl

November 26th, 2009
7:48 pm

on my way to the game. lets go hawks!!!!!!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 26th, 2009
7:48 pm

I’m stuffed and ready to see red!!! The Hawks have a good chance to come out with a W. Vince needs to be contained and we need to exploit there tired legs – look for D12 to have a big game for the home crowd tonight. I’m hitting the treadmill like a lab rat after the game though.

bigdave

November 26th, 2009
7:53 pm

LETS GET IT…!!!

happy thanksgiving to all…

mychelfromatl

November 26th, 2009
8:00 pm

Wow!!!! Traffic is crazy outside of Philips. Dammit!!!!!

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
8:11 pm

Barkley: “Ernie, can you believe we’ve got the Atlanta Hawks on national television…”

Let’s show everybody what we can do!!!!!!!!!!

Josh

November 26th, 2009
8:16 pm

I WISH I COULD BE THERE TONIGHT!

Josh

November 26th, 2009
8:18 pm

lovin the reds! so we didnt do a red-out at philips tonight eh?

Josh

November 26th, 2009
8:21 pm

LET’S GO HAWKS

Yupperz

November 26th, 2009
8:29 pm

Wtf how was that a turnover on bibby instead of Josh?

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
8:29 pm

Hawks looking good so far. Keep up the energy and hope that the Magic gets tired down the stretch.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
8:33 pm

Nice lob + finish from Bibby/Smoove.

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
8:39 pm

The number of offensive fouls that D-12 gets away with is amazing.

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
8:44 pm

NYB,

You sound like you have a wonderful family. On that, you get an A+, however, you’re still a scrubb in basketball knowledge. Big difference between 6-0 and 11-3. Best start in 12 years. We’ve been #1 in the power ranking for two weeks in a row. We’ve added Crawford and Joe Smith, Josh is playing within himself, we’ve been relatively injury free and the entire world “believes” we’re for real.

Last year, we were injured going into the match up with Cleveland (even though we had no chance anyway). This year we are much better and I haven’t heard anybody outside of this blog mention the need for giving Teague more minutes.

I label you a scrubb because you are a Woody “HATER” with no facts to back it up.

Woody=COY

Samuel = moron

November 26th, 2009
8:47 pm

Samuel,

“ohh,did i forget that we took the heat to 7 games,and we were shut out in round 2 by the cavs..and didnt’ even put up a fight or looked competitive untill the bench came in,in game 3 @phillips arena..and nearly brought us back..”

Those sound like facts to me.

leedsatlanta

November 26th, 2009
8:55 pm

Teague, nice steal and coast to coast!

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
8:57 pm

Really happy to see Teague getting some valuable minutes.

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
8:57 pm

Woody let the second unit play for a bit longer than normal while they were doing well – I like that.

Blast

November 26th, 2009
9:00 pm

Magic not doing themselves any favor right now with two techs. Joe gotta make that free throw.

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:06 pm

Excuse me but are we talking about last year or this year. I see you’re still stuck in the past, Scrubb.

You guys happy? Teague got some burn, He looked pretty good but he’s starting to remind me more and more like “Speedy Claxton” with that knuckle ball palm ball for a jumper. The old man Anthony Johnson is playing off him about 10 feet and he still can’t hit a jumper. He’s quick as a cat but that won’t get you a starting job in the NBA, sorry, it just won’t.

If Teague wants to be a starter he better learn to to what Mr. Bibby just did.

Heat check by Bibby.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 26th, 2009
9:07 pm

Ugly turnover Smoove

Blast

November 26th, 2009
9:08 pm

Hawks playing passing lanes with beauty!

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:08 pm

Good ball movement!

Knockin down some good looks.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 26th, 2009
9:10 pm

Great ball movement after the Orl – turnover. Great dunk by Horf!

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:11 pm

Hawks looking like the best team in the league right now.

Woody=COY

Blast

November 26th, 2009
9:16 pm

Hawks are balling!!! Josh is a monster tonight!!!

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:19 pm

Spurts baby!

When we turn that energy level up a notch, it’s almost as if we catch teams sleeping. You can sense that energy on both ends of the floor. We get teams to shoot difficult shots, and then we find open looks in transition.

Love it.

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:19 pm

I love how we’re collapsing on Howard. He’s not a good passer and they are not making their jumpers. Good job Woody. We are about to blow these clowns out of the building.

Josh

November 26th, 2009
9:20 pm

Hawks defense is just shutting them down!

Ree Roe

November 26th, 2009
9:22 pm

Great defense in the first half. Balanced scoring from the Boyz n Red. Keep it up Hawks. Run em out the gym, they look tired.

-REEcently Roe

Clyde

November 26th, 2009
9:22 pm

ALABAMA AUBURN IN THE IRON BOWL TOMORROW AT 2:30

Kiki

November 26th, 2009
9:30 pm

Our undersized center is shutting down D-12 on D, and he has not had many touches on off.

pinoy hawk

November 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

The hawks should go for the kill in the 3rd q. Start crawford at sg and JJ at sf. Go hawks!!

Blast

November 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

Yes, the fans are there tonight!

I know I’m not, but we’ll talk about that later!

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:34 pm

Who cares about Alabama-Auburn. Holla at me on Dec 5th.

According to the best NBA annalists in the game. The Hawks are better because they have an offense, Woody has gotten better as a coach, and Josh has matured as a player. I didn’t hear them mention Teague one time.

Last year Woody was the 8th best coach in the league and this year he is #1. Woody haters are cringing right now.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 26th, 2009
9:38 pm

I’m posting from section 412 (yeaaaaah cheap seats in the house). Hawks have been great defensively. Magic have looked pretty sluggish and for some reason refuse to involve Dwight Howard more. They have also been doing more than their fair share of whining. The crowd has been really quiet and late-arriving… so much for the red-out (though I did my part). Hawks actually could be up by more if not for some unnecessary turnovers — Josh had a couple of brain farts in that half. If they come out with the same intensity in this half this game could be over by the start of the 4th.

My only regret in coming to this game is that I can’t hear the great Marv Albert call a Hawks game.

Happy Thanksgiving, blogocrats.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:43 pm

Timeout.

Horrible start to the half.

Turnover after turnover.

ncat96

November 26th, 2009
9:43 pm

Hello fellow Hawks fans. I have been your blog comments on the Hawks since the beginning of this season. I am a die hard Hawks fans even before I moved to the ATL in 1996 when I lived in Virginia. I am certainly liking the Mike Woodson Hawks especially since the playoff campaign they had against the Celtics two years ago. You just have to give credit to Mike Woodson for shaping this team into what they have become thus far. This is freaking AWESOME.

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:46 pm

It’s amazing that we can play an entire half of beautiful basketball moving the ball. Then come out and start dribbling too much and making turnovers and people blame Woody. Let’s call out the guilty parties involved, JJ and Josh.

Josh

November 26th, 2009
9:49 pm

AL HORFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
9:50 pm

Hey Samuel ,

Yes, we do look pretty damn good. You know, beating the team that’s 20 points better than us on any given night. Or was that Boston? I think we beat them, too. Starting to believe now? Oh wait, the game’s not over yet, and we have yet to beat that incredibly scary monster up there in Cleveland. You know, the one that…uh…doesn’t have a better record than us…. ;)

Heh heh heh….

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:50 pm

Where’s the ball movement?

We’ve resorted back to the iso’s in this half. JJ dribbling the clock away and forcing up bad shots.

Think we left the energy in the locker room.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:52 pm

Again, JJ into the lane forcing a tough shot…

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:52 pm

Dammit man.

Get it together.

Callout

November 26th, 2009
9:53 pm

Samuel,

Do you get congested from being that far up Woody’s jock? If JJ’s doing something wrong, why doesn’t your lover do something about it?

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
9:53 pm

What’s with the Teague hate

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:53 pm

Maybe that T on Howard will spark the Hawks.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
9:55 pm

Finally.

Don’t know why we didn’t look to Smoove earlier.

We played out of him a lot more in that first half.

Blast

November 26th, 2009
9:56 pm

Hawks are gonna win this game! So long as you give the ball to Josh in the post!

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
9:56 pm

The last ten or so possessions have involved no ball movement. ISO-Joe, ISO-Josh, post up Horford, ISO-Joe, ISO-Jamal, post up Josh…

Mike N.

November 26th, 2009
9:58 pm

We are ice cold from the outside…this is when Woodson needs to make some adjustments to his rotation. Get Teague in and let him penetrate to the hoop and create some easy buckets.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 26th, 2009
9:58 pm

J Smoove broke the ice cold spell JJ and Crawford had us under. They need to feed it to Smoove and Horford a little more.

bigdave

November 26th, 2009
9:58 pm

JJ is making an assertive effort to get to the paint… id like that to continue.. hopefully he will finially draw a whistle on the shot attempt…

Call OUT 2

November 26th, 2009
9:58 pm

I dont get it at all. If the team is playing well its because Michael Woodson is a great coach. When the team is not doing well its because the players are not doing what they are told. It sounds like a double standard to me. A great coach is somebody that players listen to all the time, not just some of the time. If Johnson and Smith are the ones doing stuff the wrong way then why is the great coach keeping them in the game all the time. I think I smell a double standard.

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

Do what? JJ knows what he needs to do, it’s up to him to do it. Our shots are not falling right now. We just need to keep playing hard on defense and keep moving the ball. They will come back. Good move by Josh.

Woody=COY

Callout

November 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

LOL josh is 4-11 with 4 turnovers and yall want to give the ball to him more? The solution is for WOODY to run plays that involve MOVING THE BALL. No defense has ever been broken dowjn by throwing the ball to one guy and have him take the shot without ever looking to pass and thats all their doing right now

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

bigdave

November 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

Marvin has given us 0 on the offensive end…

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
10:00 pm

Serious momentum swing here in the 3rd quarter.

Let’s hope that these Hawks can shake out of this slump, otherwise we could get blown out of our own building heading into the 4th.

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:00 pm

Is is just me, or does Dwight Howard get away with that monstrous forearm when he’s driving….like, all the damn time?

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
10:01 pm

Where is “Fatboy” Jared Collins? A waste of money and roster spot.

Josh

November 26th, 2009
10:02 pm

bahhh, wheres the good ball movement and shot-making?!

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:02 pm

Ray – said the same thing earlier. It’s amazing. Even more amazing – Greg Oden gets called for 1-2 offensive fouls a game doing the same thing, but D-12 always gets away with it.

bigdave

November 26th, 2009
10:02 pm

Josh calls for the clear out…

its a wonder why Mo Evans doesnt foul out more… he is a team foul waiting to happen…

The Hawksta

November 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

Happy Thanksgiving fellas! Every team makes a run! We have to withstand this one. Good thing Woodson noticed JJ was forcing it. See if our second unit can pull us back

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

Okay…heh…I know that was an ISO play, but it damn sure was a pretty one.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 26th, 2009
10:04 pm

Glad to see JJ back in there.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
10:04 pm

We looked like we came off the back to back in that 3rd quarter…

One of the worst quarters we’ve played all season, reminds me of that 3rd quarter against the Lakers in LA. Didn’t have as many turnovers in this one, but we took horrible shots and missed most of them.

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:05 pm

It ain’t gonna cut it late in the year when JJ is tired though, Ray…

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:05 pm

Waste of a roster spot, eh?

Why is that, Samuel ?

Is it because he sucks, and Ya Boy Rick shouldn’t have signed him, or is it because Ya Boy Woody won’t play him?

Ah hell, I shouldn’t put you in a spot like that…I know which way you have to turn, even in a trap question like this one, heh heh heh…. :lol:

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:07 pm

Nire ,

No, it won’t, because then he might be too tired to make that play. But you know that if he keeps making the shot, or if the thought crosses the mind that he CAN make that shot, you’re going to see it over and over, and over….I mean, who is going to talk him out of it? Woody? I’d pay to see that one…

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:07 pm

Ok, I can’t hold back…what the hell is up with Craig Sager’s suit??

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
10:08 pm

Callout,

That’s what we did the first half. Where were you? So I guess Woody said at half time: “OK guys we’re doing a great job moving the ball, let’s change it up a bit and go to more ISOs”.

I don’t think so. It’s the players’ on the floor responsibility to recognize that. It’s obvious that you’ve never coached before. A coach is not on the floor and please don’t say bench your best two players in the biggest game of the year.

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:09 pm

Ray,

We’ve seen that movie before. Woody needs a Plan B for those situations. Unfortunately, Woody’s “Plan B” is “Plan A – with more energy!”

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:10 pm

I am sick of watching JJ Reddick score on us.

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:11 pm

3 assists for Marvin. Is that a career high? :-P

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
10:11 pm

We’re just missing open shots. Bibby back in, maybe he can hit some shots.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
10:11 pm

Adjustments.

The Magic made them coming out of halftime, the Hawks haven’t made any of their own.

Big Ray

November 26th, 2009
10:12 pm

Nire ,

The man is crazy. He’s ALWAYS wearing some goofed up suit and tie.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
10:13 pm

Samuel

November 26th, 2009
10:13 pm

Ray,

I gotta give Reddick some credit. He worked on his body and has developed into a good player. We need to make a run here folks.

Josh

November 26th, 2009
10:13 pm

big ray, redick scoring on us annoys me too… man, we needa get back in this game

niremetal

November 26th, 2009
10:14 pm

I know, Ray. But usually they’re just in loud and crazy colors. This one looks like he killed a zebra and a snake and wove them together.

Wabe

November 26th, 2009
10:14 pm

Offense fell off the map here in the 2nd half. I know there’s plenty of time left, but with the way this entire 2nd half has played out, I’m not so optimistic at this point.

a-jax

November 26th, 2009
10:15 pm

Charles Barkley, this is why people don’t show up at Philips. You get interested and they blow a 14-point lead in a big game looking like they’ve never played basketball before…

The Hawksta

November 26th, 2009
10:15 pm

Happy Thanksgiving fellas! Every team makes a run. If we stop shooting all those jumpshots and continue to take it to the rim we can pull this thing out! But hey like Barkley said, “One pass and shoot is the reason why we haven’t been on TNT more”.

Call OUT 2

November 26th, 2009
10:15 pm

Adjustments are on the players. The coach should not have to do anything because he is not on the floor playing. Where have you been? The coach is not responsible for anything. He stands on the sidelines and thats what makes him great. If something isnt getting done, thats on the players. Didnt you know that. Obviously you have never coached before or you would know that. What a bunch of blarney if I ever heard any before.

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