Greetings, all
I’m at the homestead for this one and will be watching on the television as you all will.
Some thoughts and on we go.
Why the Hawks win tonight
1) Marvin Williams has gotten himself in a groove and has an exploitable matchup against Peja Stojakovic.
2) The Hawks asserted themselves as the better team a week ago. Their fourth-quarter run from the last game may linger somewhere in the Hornets’ collective memory.
3) Joe Johnson and Josh Smith played below their capabilities Friday. Bibby’s numbers weren’t outstanding, either. It’s unlikely it happens two nights in a row.
Why they won’t
1) They’re just due. It’s the second game of a back-to-back with a flight in-between. The Hawks haven’t had back-to-backs in the streak except for the start. Further, the Hornets have been home all week and come into the game on a day of rest.
2) Houston took a lot out of the Hawks Friday night. The Rockets are a relentless bunch, as the final three minutes of the game revealed.
3) The Hornets have found something since losing to Portland and the Hawks to open the Jeff Bower era. They’ve beaten the Clippers and Suns since then. They took down 25 offensive rebounds against Phoenix.
Whatcha think?
468 comments Add your comment
Daniel
November 23rd, 2009
3:11 pm
Gee-
Obviously, I was not talking about you. When I read my post back, it seemed like I was talking about you, but you know who I meant. Sorry if I was confusing.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2009
3:40 pm
Mychelfromatlanta,
The Hawks struggled down the stretch when they won 37 games, and JJ struggled down the stretch too. Last season, JJ missed 3 games due to some virus or the other, but Sekou wondered if he was just tired. And then JJ got hurt in the playoffs.
With Crawford here, JJ’s minutes went from 39.7 last season to 38.5 this season (although Woody said he wouldnt play JJ as much). I just want JJ to be fresh for the stretch run, 4th quarter, and playoffs.
Daniel,
Teague averages 10 mpg, but there is a difference in playing 17 minutes one game, and then 3 minutes the next, compared to playing ~10 minutes in each game. There are 7 games where Teague played 5 minutes or less.
If Bibby is out for an extended time, I dont think Teague is ready to pick up the slack. One reason being, inconsistent PT.
But you’re right. Although its still early, we are 11-3, and thats the most important thing. Lets beat Orlando, and stay on top of the division/conference/NBA.
Go Hawks.
Big Ump
November 23rd, 2009
3:43 pm
Daniel-Very good post at 1:34PM
Daniel -You on fire today.
November 23rd, 2009
3:46 pm
Enter your comments here
Ken Strickland
November 23rd, 2009
3:50 pm
GEEMACK-Are you saying the majority of these championship calibur coaches didn’t develop any or most of the young players they had on their rosters? GET REAL MAN!!
This is JSmiths 6th yr, all as a starter, and after 5yrs, fans and NBA insiders were still commenting and/or complaining about his inconsistency, lack of maturity, decipline, out of control style and propensity for jacking up 3pt jumpers instead of going inside. AND THAT’S YOUR IDEA OF SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT UNDER WOODSON? He’s definitely turned it around this yr, but it was a decision and recognition on his part that made it happen.
MWilliams is starting his 5th yr in the league, 4th as a starter. Both fans and NBA insiders are still commenting and/or complaining about his overall lack of development. They are also wondering why Woodson refuses to expand his OFF to include and take full advantage of a player that was drafted 2nd overall because of his athleticism and outstanding midrange jumpshot, which he has expanded to 3pt range. AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CONSIDER THAT SOME KIND OF BADGE OF HONOR FOR WOODSON?
AHorford just entered his 3rd yr, all as a starter, and after an outstanding rookie season, fans and NBA insiders are still wondering why Woodson hasn’t expanded his limited OFF to take advantage of his maturity, quickness, strength, excellent passing ability, high basketball IQ and midrange jumpshot. EXACTLY WHAT HAS WOODSON DONE TO CONTRIBUTE TO HORFORDS DEVELOPMENT AND MATURITY?
We’re now seeing Woodson use the same BS approach in developing rookie PG JTeague that’s failed in every instance over the past 5yrs. AND YOU’RE ACTUALLY ATTEMPTING TO DEFEND THIS CRAP?
Former GM BKnight and the ASG made it perfectly clear they intended to blow up the roster and completely start over, so Woodson, as well as all of us, knew exactly what to expect. So all of you Woodson apologist can stop throwing up that crap about him taking over a team with little talent like he was somehow deceived or caught off guard.
In Woodson’s tenue as HC, he’s started only 4 rookies or draft picks, JSmith, MWilliams, AHorford and RIvey, and the entire RIvey situation made absolutely no sense at all. Please explain Woodson’s logic when he brought RIvey off the bench his rookie yr and played him 13MPG, then makes him the starter the following yr and plays him 13.4MPG? DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SOME TYPE NEW OF DEVELOPMENTAL STRATEGY?
Bottomline, Woodson has only allowed 3 rookies under his watch to make mistakes and develop, and they comprise our current starting frontline. Wouldn’t you think he’d have enough sense to realize that every player that’s received the ALaw treatment is gone, and the 3 players that’s gotten the JSmith treatment is still on the roster and starting. Yet, he prefers to give rookie PG JTeague the same ALaw treatment that hasn’t worked for him, the players or the team.
HOW YOU CAN COME TO THE MISGUIDED CONCLUSION THAT WOODSON’S BEHAVIOR AND APPROACH HAS SOMEHOW CONTRIBUTED TO PLAYER DEVELOPMENT,AND THE TEAMS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, IS BEYOND ME. HOWEVER, I’M NOT ONE TO ENGAGE IN WISHFUL THINKING.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2009
3:54 pm
Daniel,
Go back and look at O’brien 10/22/09 post at 7:42. He clearly show us that in 7 of 14 games JT played less than 6mins. So his 9.4 min avg per game is very misleading. In studying mathematics as an undergrad, it was said that the law of averages tells you everything but the truth especially when you have a large sample of data. In those cases, you use the median (too lengthy to explain on a fan blog). However, had he played at least 10 mins in at least 10 out of the 14 games then I think you would see less complaints. Many here just like to see consistency not guess work as Sheldon Williams related it to in the previous link. Hard to argue with a person who had first hand experience with Woody….(I know, bad word usage)….
reedeak
November 23rd, 2009
3:59 pm
Who will be at the game Thursday night?!?!?!
Daniel -You on fire today.
November 23rd, 2009
4:00 pm
All of a sudden Sheldon William know what’s he talking about or could it be sour grapes?
Bi Ump
November 23rd, 2009
4:04 pm
All of a sudden Sheldon William kwow what’s he talking about or could it be sour grapes? Sorry about the incorrect posting at 4:00pm.
kwooden1
November 23rd, 2009
4:14 pm
I hope Teague gets more playing time Thursday night, Orlando has no one on the bench that can handle his speed!. Orlando without Nelson is a little better match-up for us because Bibby versus Williams should be a draw. Howard’s going to get his but I’m more worried about Carter and Lewis. Lewis brings our shot blocker away from the basket and Carter seems to always play well against us. I do like the way Smoove is playing in the post, so he should attack Lewis every chance he gets. Marvin must consistently attack Carter on the offensive end, if Carter goes off again, it could be a long night. I think our real advantage is Crawford and Teague coming off the bench. Orlando has no one coming off the bench that can stay with either of those guys. Crawford should have a field day and Teague should be able to do whatever he wants. Hopefully the time off won’t leave to much rust on the HAWKS game and Orlando will be on the end of a back-to-back.
GO HAWKS!!!
Melvin
November 23rd, 2009
4:20 pm
I guess a fan in the stands has more insight into the team than a former player from the team… LOL
Mychelfromatl
November 23rd, 2009
4:27 pm
reedeak,
I’ll be there fa’sho.
Daniel
November 23rd, 2009
4:30 pm
Melvin- you know I respect your take. But, 1)Are you really going to take what Sheldon Williams says as gospel? Did his coach not talk sweet enough to him in Sacremento either? What about Doc Rivers? Is that why he is playing so well for Boston? (note sarcasm).
You are right there has been a swing in Teague’s minutes, typically getting more minutes at home and more against other rookies. Wait a minute could I spin it that Woody is using Teague in situations where he might best succeed as a rookie thus improving his confidence? Dude is averaging 10 minutes a game. We are working out a new back court rotation and winning 11 games in the process.
It is really just over kill to harp on his minutes.
Daniel
November 23rd, 2009
4:33 pm
Melvin- Now, I never said that I had more insight than the players, what I said was that NONE of us, know what Woody is saying to Teague. I sit right behind the bench, and I have no idea. Sheldon Williams has never even spoken to Teague. Now, if Jeff, Woody or one of his teamates comment on their communication that is different. So c’mon man read what I wrote.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2009
4:50 pm
Daniel,
I still dont understand why Teague only played 5 minutes against NO when Bibby only played 5 minutes (and the other guards were killing us, and our shots weren’t falling), so how worse could Teague do?. And it was the second game of a back to back.
But you’re right. It is probably overkill to be harping on Teague’s minutes already. I’m just concerned that his inconsistent minutes could last for the entire season, and if Bibby ever goes down for an extended period of time, I dont think Teague would be ready to pick up the slack.
Not to mention I am concerned about the lasting effect it might have on the young fellow (it could be similar to Salim, AC Law, and Shelden).
Trutn-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
4:59 pm
Just checking in….
Big Ray
Thanks for the shout! I see your point about what a difference a few more minutes would make. At least we hope so. Teague would have to show some level of production to continue receiving those minutes. With benefits comes responsibility. He needs pressure to perform under because the game is played under pressure. I imagine that he will get somewhat of an increase in playing time with Bibby being out,(what’s the latest on bibby?),I hope he can’t make as many positive plays as he makes detrimental ones to at the least off set the time to neutral or slightly positive net results. At the end of the day there is no guarantee that he will be NBA Material.
GeeMack,
Thanks for the encouragement. If you took all the current NBA head coaches and ranked them in the order of application, talent and results based upon a defined starting point in each program, I think Woodson clearly ranks in the top ten. No Brainer. I’ve we had a top ten at every position we would be championship caliber. True, he’s not Phil Jackson, how many Phil Jacksons are they in the NBA? JJ aint Kobe either.
So why are we spending so much time discussing what aint broke?
Trutn-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:00 pm
*Truth-Serum!
doc
November 23rd, 2009
5:03 pm
truth, you want to list your top ten that includes woody? then look at who you leave out and try again.
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:04 pm
I got to admit, it seem rather convenient for the haters to say how all of these old time coaches developed these players but when it comes to Woodson its organic growth. Thats pretty funny I must say. Hopefully people can see right through it, for what its worth.
I guess that gets the gold star of the day!
doc
November 23rd, 2009
5:06 pm
melvin, what sheldon link?
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:08 pm
doc
let me make it easy for you so we wont be like a dog chasing his tail. You produce your list of the top ten coaches today. Or why don’t you look at last years coach of the year poll. Its no doubt in my mind that when compared to the coaches today, Woodson is in the top ten. Ive got a class to attend, Ill look for your list later and compare it with last years poll and go from there. Mean while lets open discussion on what “is broken”
doc
November 23rd, 2009
5:10 pm
truth, woody always gets a lot of respect from the players. i just want him to get the respect from other coaches and a bit from the media that know good coaching. one out of three is a start. always have been cool with how he probably works the guys except on game day. this year he has the charges beneath him, again we get to see what he is made of as he has put his stamp of approval on this team and what it is made of including teague.
Fork Tongue Review Board
November 23rd, 2009
5:12 pm
Gee Mack you are to be recognize for your exposing of hypocritical mind set in your presentation of double standards!! How on one hand coaches are given credit for developing player but the same honor is denied Woodson with out any validity.
Excellent submission. Good job!
doc
November 23rd, 2009
5:13 pm
truth, just as i thought you didnt make a list, only “conjectured” one. just calling your bluff my friend, me i have enough work to do.
what is broken? it is bibby and whether we have a replacement if he is hobbled for very long. WWWD?
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:14 pm
Doc, you can do better than that! I dont know of any coaches that dont respect Woodson. You want to share some insight on that?
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:18 pm
WWWD-LOLOLOL! I guess let jj and crawford split the point, give marv time at the 2 and try to get teague some time. you can only play the hand dealt you. Later Doc.
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
5:20 pm
*I hope he can make as many positive plays as he makes detrimental ones
correction
November 23rd, 2009
5:08 pm
doc
November 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm
good simple straight forward answer there truth.
GeeMack
November 23rd, 2009
5:30 pm
Ken,
Josh, Marvin, & Al’s development had everything to do with Woody. He has helped these guys grow. The proof is in the puddin…the Hawks have improved. Josh no longer shots 3’s, Al productivity is up in points and rebs. MWilliams production is down mainly because Al & Josh are up as well as JC.
The Team is playing not as much Iso Joe. There is better ball movement as well, and they are starting to play better defense. That’s my logic. Woody is a good coach.
GeeMack
November 23rd, 2009
5:36 pm
Daniel nice post homie.
Fork Tongue Review Board
Thx for the shout out.
Ken
You know I give you props when its due, but on this Woody thing…you are expecting him to be PJax with 2nd tier player Jeff Teague with Jason Terry is a few years, but he’s not CP3. I am more concerned with JC getting 30 to 35 minutes per night than Teague getting 15 to 20. Ten min. a night is good for him right now.
doc
November 23rd, 2009
6:04 pm
truth, from the other blog seems this topic got some burn and ray agrees though not as simply or succinctly:
Big Ray
November 23rd, 2009
4:57 pm
What tickles the brain just a bit is something that somebody else brought up. What happens if Bibby’s not ready to go on Thursday….or any other stretch of the season?
Oh, I think we know the answer. Jamal starts, and the usual suspects come off the bench. Jamal and JJ will play 42+ minutes apiece (okay, okay, 45 minutes or more). Teague will get some burn…right where his hiney meets the chair….
Seriously, if Bibby is not ready to go, that is what most likely will happen. Now here’s what I think (for what it’s worth…uh, nothing). I’d rather keep from burning JJ and Jamal too hard, and let Teague get thrown to the wolves a bit. Let him feel the burn on the court some. Yes, you want to win the game, but let him at it just a bit. Unless of course he is just really screwing the pooch out there. Just use it as a learning/teaching experience. After all, who else do you have? We have exactly 4 guards. They all need to be ready to play, and able to get into a rhythm.
heh heh, ray is never at a loss for words.
Samuel
November 23rd, 2009
6:26 pm
First, that first post wasn’t the “real” Samuel.
NOW
Look at these so called great coaches:
Power Rankings (Bottom of the barrel)
24. Golden State- Isn’t Nelly the all time winning coach or something like that. Doesn’t his guy “run,run,run”?
25. NY Knicks- Most of you guys here were all over this guy’s nutts a few months ago. Certainly the “Media Experts” have been the past few years, huh Doc?
26. Philly- Eddie Jordan. Practically this entire board was calling for him to replace Woody at some point over the last few year with his “beautifull” offensive schemes.
27. Charlotte- The great Master Teacher, Larry Brown.
28. Washington- Flip Sanders has lost his locker room in less than a month. Just like he did in Detroit. Again, the bloggers were salivating over the possibility of replacing Woody with this guy.
29. Jersey- The jig looks like it’s finally up on the equipment manager, “Opie”.
30. Minnesota- Kurt “Clark Kent” Rambis has studied under the masters so surely he can translate that “beautiful” triangle offense to the Wolves. Not.
I’ve been saying this for the last 2 or 3 years but who exactly out there would you replace Woody with? I’m waiting.
Samuel
November 23rd, 2009
6:39 pm
Oh yea,
Forget about Teague sniffing the floor on Thursday. This is the biggest game of the year. I don’t think so.
I’m still baffle by the consistent reference to :Salim,Acie,Sheldon and Royal Ivey. Totally blown away. Do you guys really believe these guys were good ball players on the NBA level? It really makes you look stupid by bringing these guys up.
niremetal
November 23rd, 2009
6:45 pm
Sautee/Daniel/etc,
I have zero desire to see Collins in the floor unless Horford and Zaza get in foul trouble early or its garbage time. The reason for getting Collins was simple – in case Zaza or Horford got hurt, THEN we could put him in as a big body. But Collins is a walking dead man on the pick and roll against someone like Howard, and you know SVG will recognize that.
The thing that makes Howard such a force is not just his strength. Hell, if that were it, Jason Collins would have been able to land better gigs during the past couple years. The thing that makes Howard so dangerous is that he is huge and can also jump, run, and change direction better than almost every other center in the league. For all the critiques about Zaza, he moves very well for a big man and has a nice combination of size and strength. Collins is just bulk without the ability to move it. If he had some offensive touch, that would be alright, but he doesn’t. Against Shaq, I also would have no problem playing Collins significant minutes, because Collins won’t have to hedge as much against his lard. But against D-12, I think Zaza in his 24th minute will be more effective than Collins in his 1st.
WTF!!!
November 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
WHEN THEY LOSE A GAME YALL START COMPLAINING, IT’S JJ HES HOGGING THE BALL ITS THIS ITS THAT, THEY JUST LOST A GAME, ITS OVER, LIKE JAY Z SAYS ” ON TO THE NEXT ONE” ITS A TEAM THING, THEIR THE TOP TEAM IN THE NBA, ITS NOT JUS THE TEAMS GUNNING FOR THEM, ITS THE LEAGUE TOO, THEY DONT WANT THE HAWKS ON TOP, SO NOW THERE MAKIN IT HARD FOR THEM, JUST LOOK AT THE REFS HOW THEY CALL, AND THEY STARTING WITH J SMOOVE, THEY TRYING TO GET THEM IN FOUL TROUBLE AND MAKE SMOOVE LOOSE HIS MIND THEN HES OUT OF HIS GAME, BUT KNO ONE CAN STOP THE HAWKS BUT THEM SELVES!!! HOLLA!!!
Ken Strickland
November 23rd, 2009
7:59 pm
GEEMACK-I don’t expect Woodson to be as good as PJackson, I just expect him to better than he is after 5yrs. And quit making excuses by classifying most of his players as 2nd tier. Woodson was an assistant in Detroit when LBrown took what was considered a bunch of 2nd tier, castoffs and/or malcontents and molded them into a championship team. He designed an OFF system that took advantage of the individual talents of his key players, and they all became Allstars as a result. You’d think Woodson would have learned something from that experience, instead of making excuses and blaming the players.
PG CBillups, C BWallace, PF RWallace, SG RHamilton and key sub PF/C AMcDyess were either stuck to some teams bench or run out of town by teams that were more than willing to part company with them. Before coming to Detroit, I’m not sure PG Billups, PF/C McDyess or C BWallace were even considered 2nd tier.
There’s no way anyone with an objective viewpoint can say Woodson has been primarily responsible for the development of his young players when the performances of the majority of his young players usually decreases the longer they play under him. Check the rookie stats of SWilliams, SStaudemire, ALaw and SJones. Marvins stats have deminished in recent yrs. Horford’s stats decreased after his rookie yr. IF WOODSON HAS DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF DEVELOPING HIS PLAYERS, WHY DO THEIR PERFORMANCES SEEM TO GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION ONE WOULD EXPECT FROM IMPROVEMENT?
And please, don’t pretend it was Woodson’s coaching, and not the addition of talented players like JSmith, JChildress, JJ, MWilliams, AHorford and MBibby, that contributed significantly to the annual increase in wins. We witnessed 1st hand the impact adding a new player can have on this team with the turnaround we had after acquiring MBibby.
You mentioned CP3. Well, people like to blame BKnight for not drafting CPaul or DWilliams, but it was Woodson who publically stated his doubts about their abilities and made it clear he wanted a veteran PG. You have the right to believe whatever you what in regard to Woodson’s contribution to the development of his players, and the team, but you certainly can’t justify that belief.
Ken Strickland
November 23rd, 2009
8:03 pm
NIREMETAL-Cleveland acquired Shaq so they would have someone big and strong enough to play DHoward in the playoffs without having to double team. We acquired Collins so we would have someone big and strong enough to play both Shaq and DHoward without having to double team.
Samuel
November 23rd, 2009
8:20 pm
Ken,
We’re in first place, last time I checked. How is that going backwards. When is the last time the Hawks were #1 in the entire NBA? Thought so. This is the best Hawks team ever so that makes Woody the best Hawks coach ever. Like it or not, those are the facts baby.
There you go again with that Salim,Acie,Ivey, Sheldon talk again. Don’t you get it. These guys were scrubbs with Woody and still are.
Again, J Collins is a waste of money and space. About the only thing he can guard is a pot of “Pig feet”. He’d be DPOY.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2009
8:56 pm
Ken Strickland,
Correction on Horford: Only his rebound nimbers (Nique) went down in his second year (9.7 to 9.3) His points, assists, steals, blocks, and FG% all went up. His TO’s and PFs were down, but we’d hope so, eh?
GeeMack
November 23rd, 2009
8:56 pm
Ken
Why do we keep bringing up Detroit? That is not the model u build a champioship from. That is an abbreviation in the system of the NBA. That happen once in 60 years of NBA champs!
That’s Larry Brown being able to do what he did with Detroit after decades of coaching. This is Woody’s 1st job and you are expecting him to be Larry Brown when it took LB years to get their. Even win LB got to Detroit he still had better player & more seasoned player than the Hawks have now.
Please quit mentioning AClaw, SJones, & Salim, these guys are not NBA players. You continue to say Woodys not improving sorry but you’re wrong,in my opinon…just look at the record.
Pot of pigs feet!
November 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
Go Hawks!!! Woody=COY
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
9:35 pm
Collins is here as a last ditch effort to appease the knowledgeable fans who know that we need a center to go all the way. Sund was not able to effectively address that shortcoming but figured anything was better than nothing at all. I do believe that Collins is getting the bare minimum salary for a vet which is indicative of the expectations of his work. It is ludicrous to compare him to Shaq who commands millions and is a valid second option for his team.
In fact, many of the comparisons and analogies being offered are idiotic. I guess this is what people do when their argument has been defeated and exposed as untrue, yet they want to continue debate as the abide in denial, because they have convince themselves and others that they knew basketball. The more they continue to fight the more people can see they don’t know what the hell they are taking about.
Do us all a favor, cut the anti woodson smear and lets imitate the hawks and have a unified blog site like the hawks have a unified team. Let’s use this blog to promote our team and stand by them just like they are.
Stop the hate.
Truth-Serum
November 23rd, 2009
9:37 pm
*as they abide in denial
KevinA
November 23rd, 2009
9:57 pm
Lets develope Al. He seems very good in limited opportunities.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2009
10:02 pm
Daniel,
I value your point of view as well but My 2nd post at 4:20 was not a response to you. However, just b/c Shelden didn’t live up to his expectation as a Hawk, is that reason to discredit what he said? And he seem to be fitting in quite well with the Celtics. Could it be b/c he has a defined role on that team and he know what the coach wants him to do? Keep in mind he said there was a lack of communication between him and the coach so he didnt know what they wanted from him.
I think we all are happy to be 11-3 but i also think there’s room for constructive criticism and after seeing the development of Ivey, Salim, Acie and now seeing Teague being treated similiar (although its early in the season) I think it’s fair game to be a little concern.
rms
November 23rd, 2009
10:06 pm
Can we get a new blog up or something. This is getting old!!
niremetal
November 23rd, 2009
10:20 pm
rms,
We’ve had a gazillion threads since AJC launched this blog and we always come back to talking about the same things. Why do you think the next thread will be any different?
Ken Strickland
November 23rd, 2009
10:25 pm
SAUTEE-thanks for the correction. It’s really telling that you, and not any of the Woodson apologist, picked up on it. When it comes to defending Woodson, they don’t read for information, or with any degree of comprehension, they just read to find what they can use for justification.
They are quick to dismiss any mention of ALaw, SJones, SWilliams, SStaudemire, which was exactly the attitude Woodson seems to have taken towards them. Can you believe a Woodson apologist actually said Woodson, and not Stan Van Gundy, who took his team to the NBA finals, or Phil Jackson, who won the NBA title again last yr, or Mike Brown, who’s Cleveland team had the best record in the NBA, or Doc Rivers, who won the NBA title the yr before, is the NBA’s best HC? After only 12gms, this fool declares Woodson is the Best HC in the NBA. WHAT AN IDIOT!
RMS-can’t argue with that. I’m glad we have this time between gms to prepare for our battle with Orlando, but it’s not doing me any good. I’m really jacked up, rather impatient and getting antsy. After all of the arguing, debating and bashing, I’m looking forward to a well played well coached gm in which we should win. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
Samuel
November 23rd, 2009
11:05 pm
Come on Ken,
If we win, you only write a couple of lines about how the hawks won cause “you” suggested they try something different. Isn’t it really better for your blogging career that we get blown out so your “Woody Bashing” can have a little more legitimacy? Right now, you look kinda foolish since we’re in 1st place, don’t you think?
cp
November 24th, 2009
12:10 am
These Woodson lovers are something else.