Hawks-Hornets
Greetings, all
I’m at the homestead for this one and will be watching on the television as you all will.
Some thoughts and on we go.
Why the Hawks win tonight
1) Marvin Williams has gotten himself in a groove and has an exploitable matchup against Peja Stojakovic.
2) The Hawks asserted themselves as the better team a week ago. Their fourth-quarter run from the last game may linger somewhere in the Hornets’ collective memory.
3) Joe Johnson and Josh Smith played below their capabilities Friday. Bibby’s numbers weren’t outstanding, either. It’s unlikely it happens two nights in a row.
Why they won’t
1) They’re just due. It’s the second game of a back-to-back with a flight in-between. The Hawks haven’t had back-to-backs in the streak except for the start. Further, the Hornets have been home all week and come into the game on a day of rest.
2) Houston took a lot out of the Hawks Friday night. The Rockets are a relentless bunch, as the final three minutes of the game revealed.
3) The Hornets have found something since losing to Portland and the Hawks to open the Jeff Bower era. They’ve beaten the Clippers and Suns since then. They took down 25 offensive rebounds against Phoenix.
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Blast
November 21st, 2009
10:40 pm
In all the win-loss prediction, I guess no one saw this coming, huh?
Did Hawks miss Bibby out there or not?
Next few days of rest gonna be good for Hawks.
Refs played a part too.
Hawks will rebound.
Josh
November 21st, 2009
10:41 pm
lol, jeje. yeah, falcons this year are definitely having it rough
O'Brien
November 21st, 2009
10:45 pm
Man, Stinger must have read my comments, because he said the same thing i posted at 10:31 lol.
Basically, he said you dont want Crawford running the offense for too long, and he also thought Teague should have gotten more PT.
We’re still 11-3, and still the beast of the east. Lets beat Orlando and get back to our winning ways.
Ken Sugiura
November 21st, 2009
10:50 pm
don’t know who’s still reading, but Bibby has a sprained left ankle. X-rays negative, but no immediate prognosis on when he’ll be back.
Blast
November 21st, 2009
10:52 pm
Hawks need Bibby, man.
Josh
November 21st, 2009
11:03 pm
let’s hope he’s ready by thurs… how long does it usualyl take for guys to recover from those?
ricknole
November 21st, 2009
11:21 pm
I thought they would lose tonight. Last nights game was physical and took alot out of the team. 4 days off to get rested and ready for primetime against Orlando!
Anthony
November 21st, 2009
11:38 pm
Silly Hawk fans thinking this team is legit. You got to be a complete moron to think the Hawks are a legit east contender. A complete moron to believe it.
MAD-DONNA
November 22nd, 2009
12:02 am
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again! The Hawks are the worst coached team in the NBA! How else do you describe a team that allows Josh Smith to bring the ball down court? Absolutely no penetration from the point position! Still a lot of standing around watching Joe! Jeff Teague is like a deer in the head-lights.. (man-up rookie)! No picks, no ball rotation…..First Place? Are you kidding me? They will be out by Thanksgiving day!
Ken Strickland
November 22nd, 2009
12:07 am
Some fans won’t jump off the bandwagon like they did in the past, they just jump on Marvin Williams and blame him for everything wrong. Can you believe we have some HATERS still riding him even though he followed up last nights outstanding performance with a 17pt(8-16 shooting), 6Reb(5 OFF), 2 blk performance.
What we saw tonight was the ISO, one on one, halfcourt, guard oriented jumpshooting, fatigued team of the last few yrs. That was the result of poor coaching and decision making by Woodson. Woodson allowed JJ, who was obviously feeling the effects of playing 45mins last night, to selfishly dominate the OFF with his ISO’s and one on one BS. Marvin was on fire last night and carried the team, yet there were no early attempts to see if he was still feeling it. The player that was allowed to dominate the OFF had an off gm last night and played the most mins. POOR COACHING.
When Woodson allowed JJ to go ISO Joe exclusively, it made it easy for New Orleans to defend us. They just put Posey on JJ and sent a man to double if he beat him off the dribble, which didn’t happen very often. They knew when JJ started dominating the ball, the rest of the Hawks would clear out and not be a threat, which is why we were unable to get many OFF rebounds down the stretch.
Has anyone else noticed how we’re seeing numerous rookie PG’s having outstanding performances, both against us and throughout the league? It only goes to show what they can do if given consistent mins. I believe the announcers made that very point several times. When your starting PG goes down early with an injury and you only play your backup PG 5mins, somethings wrong. Exactly what is Woodson’s idea of developing a young PG, especially when the opportunity and necessity due to injury are placed before him. AGAIN, POOR COACHING TONIGHT.
richbrave
November 22nd, 2009
12:22 am
A DRMARYB sighting!!!!! Glad to see you still with us. Didn’t your fab four come through though?
JeJe
November 22nd, 2009
12:26 am
JOE JOHNSON: PLZ TRY REBOUDN MORE. IF IT’S CONVENIENT FOR U, MR. SUPERSTAR
DO NOT PAY THIS GUY A NEW CONTRACT. KEEP IN MIND HE’LL BE RUNNING INTO AGE 33 AT END OF 5 YR DEAL. IS HE REALLY WORTH 18-20 MILL AT AGE 32? NO
JeJe
November 22nd, 2009
12:27 am
We are showing we cannot beat bad teams on the road.
We play @ Philly after Orlando, and then @ Detroit, followed by 2 testy home games.
Losing strreak here we come
hawkfan
November 22nd, 2009
12:54 am
man, you don’t realize what you have until it’s gone, bibby is the glue that keeps this team together offensively when things aren’t going well, how many times did our offense look stagnant tonight? everyone watching joe do his dribble panic attack, and crawford did look tentative being at the 1 position, teague didn’t know what to do and it seemed we started to play with some intensity with like 35 sec left in the game, I don’t think I ever saw Horford look that mad or react that much to any call like he did on the close to last possession we had, overall we are still #1 with 11-3 just need to beat Orlando and we are back in the driver’s seat, silver lining is that NOH also beat Phoenix, if they didn’t, we would definitely be looked at as not legit and a fluke, we’ve been so pampered for the past 2 weeks, I kind of forgot what it feels like to lose, GO HAWKS!!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
November 22nd, 2009
12:59 am
This was a lackluster display and JJ pounded the ball to the detriment of the team. That being said, we get 5 days rest before the showdown with Orlando. I’m still optimistic. I was at the game and was puzzled as to why Bibby was out – I jokingly thought it was b/c he couldn’t hang with their young back court.
Let’s get thursday Hawks – still optimistic, though JT0 must get more minutes..
Grandad
November 22nd, 2009
1:19 am
O’Brien: Well said, each time.
K.S.: Agreed,agreed,and agreed. D.Collison played free and easy from
what I saw (admitting that I was going back and forth[Dawgs]).
With Bibby out, is J.T. the logical choice or not? Thats why
exp. is important. We may very well have lost tonight because
he has not been allowed to grow. These are some issues and
reasons Mr Sund probably will not jump the gun and give Woody
a new contract…yet. Perhaps, in due time.
I MUS WRITE: Sorry if I confused you. T.S. (Sybil) Truth Serum.
*Ditto – *I left him a note as well. Long story / boring.
I must confess, strong drink is not one of my vices.
I’ll try to be more coherent next time. As always, I enjoy
your viewpoints.
cp
November 22nd, 2009
1:26 am
The Bibby injury is exactly why some of us were saying that Teague needs consistent minutes. You never know when a guy is going to go down and its important that the next guy in line is ready. Teague looks like he has lost some confidence. He is playing not to make a mistake. Woodson is not allowing him to play through rookie mistakes. I hope Bibby is not out long because I don’t like Crawford at the point and it looks like Woody isn’t going to allow Teague much freedom to play through his mistakes.
Ramon
November 22nd, 2009
2:55 am
I can’t stand the fair weather fans that the Hawks have. Do you guys not realize how tired the Hawks were tonight? They had to play the entire game last night like it was a playoff game. And then catch a flight to N.O. to play a team that no one in the league could get excited about playing. When players don’t have any energy or strength in their legs, they take a lot of jump shots. Every team does that. It was more important for the Hawks to win last night than it was tonight. Because the longer you stay undefeated at home, that is a major plus when teams think about coming to play in Philips.
I have no problem with tonight’s lost. Also people forget this same NO team just beat Phoenix two days ago. I don’t see people in Arizona talking about Gentry can’t coach because of that lost. This team STILL has the best record in the league, and they get a four day rest before playing Orlando. They’re in good position.
Another thing some of you aren’t realizing the Hawks only lost by by 8 points to a team that shot 70% for beyond the arc, SEVENTY PERCENT! The Hawks out rebounded the Hornets. Had 7 more offensive boards. They also committed only SIX turnovers, that’s even with Bibby only playing 5 minutes. There are a lot of positives to look at in this game. The Hawks have a great game plan night in and night out with the rebounding and turnovers. You can’t name one team in the NBA who hasn’t had a bad shooting night tonight like the Hawks did tonight. But most of them teams don’t even come close to winning the game.
For those of you complaining about Smoove’s jump shots, you do realize he was only 3 assists from having a triple double right, and committed NO TURNOVERS tonight, right? Someone complained about him bringing the ball up court, but if he’s not committing any turnovers, what is the problem? Some of you guys forget that Smoove is still human, with human muscles. His legs get tired just like some of you get tired just from walking from your car to the door of The Cheesecake Factory in the Cumberland Mall parking lot.
What makes it worse is, that a couple of you guys are complaining so much now, but the last 2 weeks haven’t been anywhere around the boards. Its almost as if you were lurking in the bushes waiting for a bad game to say something. Horford, Smoove, and Marvin didn’t have bad games. If you look at the +/- you’ll see the Hawks mainly lost this game because of what happened when the reserves were on the court.
In closing, if you’re going to be a Hawks’ fan, be a fan but be realistic. And if you just want to whine, goto a Sarah Palin book signing, you’ll have plenty to whine about there.
Hawks = #2 or #3 seed.
Ken Strickland
November 22nd, 2009
3:21 am
You can tell when all of the Woodson lovers are aware of him doing a poor job of coaching and decision making. You definitely don’t hear the demands for a new contract like you do after a win.
ILL-LOGICAL-it won’t be the physical play in the playoffs that will have the biggest negative effect on the Hawks, it will be the inability of a HC to coach beyond his programmed habits, stubborness and programming. Woodson recently said that he didn’t use his bench in the past because he has to go with what he trusts or feels comfortable with. Well, I guess that’s still the case. How can a HC maintain control of a team and it’s players, and develop his younger players, when he consistently demonstrates his lack of confidence and trust in them. Further more, when and how can he expect to develop any trust and/or confidence in a player without playing him, at least consistently?
He can’t expect to progress as a HC, or get a contract extension if he continues to take 1 step forward and 1 or 2 steps back. How much sense does it make to use Teague 10 to 15mins in a gm when your team is healthy, then when your starting PG goes down, you play him 5mins. Again, why allow a veteran like JJ to make rookie mistakes and turnovers, like consistently trying to dribble through double teams, yet yank Teague for making a rookie mistake?
I’m starting to see that ALaw frustration on Teagues face. Woodson should give Teague, or any rookie, the same consideration he gives Marvin, Horford, Smoove, JJ, Bibby or Crawford when they make the same mistakes.
keno
November 22nd, 2009
3:30 am
So they lost one. The shooting was horrible, Bibby got injured, and they had no energy at all. They still had opportunities to win. I think the offense was just thrown out of sync with Bibby out and everyone was a step slow on defense. Just a thought on JJ pounding the ball so much…part of the problem is that everyone stands and watches. They need to learn how to move without the ball.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 22nd, 2009
3:55 am
It was pretty clear that the Rockets had taken every ounce of juice out of the Hawks last night, and they had nothing left over for tonight’s game. Players were slow rotating on defense and clearly were missing their usual explosiveness on offense. In an 82-game season, every team loses some games they should win. Two of the Hawks’ three losses have come against inferior teams on the 2nd game of a back to back after traveling, and unfortunately they have another game like that this Friday.
They have 4 days to rest up for the big game against Orlando (hopefully I’ll be there). If they can win that game they will be making a huge statement that the road to the Southeast Division title runs through the ATL this year, regardless of tonight’s outcome. I’m not too worried about tonight… the winning streak was bound to end soon. I just hope Bibby’s ankle sprain is mild and he can be back by Thursday.
vava74
November 22nd, 2009
6:03 am
People,
I did not watch the game yesterday (too freaking tired since I am +5 hours over here and I had a feeling that we would not win this one).
However, if you look at the boxscore you can see that this was an acceptable loss:
1. We lost Bibby 5min into the game while we were ahead;
2. We were tired, which is an impediment to good defense (specially in the perimeter) and good execution on offense (tired legs take away the jump shot consistency but also take away the off the ball movement).
3. We out rebounded NO and had very few turnovers, which is a good indication.
4. NO are playing a lot better without Paul and without Scott at the helm.
My only gripe is that Woody did not play Teague more (regardless of mistakes) since the amount of burn yesterday could be important if Bibby is not ready for the Orlando game (against whom he went 0-10 in the pre-season).
As for the rest of the criticism (to JJ for pounding and Woody for not calling more plays) I think the above neutralizes most of what has been said.
All teams have bad games, including the ones with superstars and the ones coached by accomplished and recognized HCoaches.
We have seen Kobe going ISO and stop executing the triangle many times (and going 6/20 on FG) and as far as I know, no one questions that he is the best in the game right now and no one calls out Phil for not calling more plays.
Sometimes this happens. That’s it: JJ is not a robot which you can simply program to execute every single game and every single play well AND Woody is also not a computer which you can program to plan and react to situations perfectly.
The fact is that if we had three more 3 pointers made last night (nothing out of the ordinary), we would have won the game last night.
Finally, I rather lose this game than the ORL game and just out of mathematical probability and since the Hawks would never go 80-2 for the season, I kind of like that they go into the ORL game after a loss where there were some execution issues.
If they analyze some of the mistakes made (as pointed out here in the blog), like going under the screens, too much ISO plays and too many jump shots and too few drives, and if they try to correct this, we will stand a much better chance to win against ORL than if we had scrapped out with a win in spite of these mistakes.
Ernest
November 22nd, 2009
6:05 am
We had an injury to our ‘quarterback’ early in the game and we did not adjust accordingly. Nevertheless, it looks as though we were still in the game. Given a few days of rest, if Bibby is not ready, I’m sure the team will make the necessary adjustments to compete against ORL on Thursday.
Big Ump
November 22nd, 2009
6:44 am
Ant Banks I agree with you all the way. It’s amazing,
Big Ump
November 22nd, 2009
6:49 am
Did some of you all thought the Hawks was not to lose another game. I know some of us couldn’t wait for us to lose. As long as there games in the NBA teams will have games like this when nothing will go right. Get real people. I ‘m still with the Hawks and the HC.
Clyde
November 22nd, 2009
7:46 am
FIRE WOODY
dap01
November 22nd, 2009
7:58 am
Woody is to young point guards, as Willie Martinez is to defense, as Obama is to national debt.
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
9:24 am
Ken strickland you are on fire I agree with everthing you are saying
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
9:31 am
It obvious look at every other pg drafted in front of teague and behind him collison, maynor they look good dont they. Please people with the would if we had brandon jennings or CP3 when young. Woody would have not played them and they would look bad as well just like teague. The proof is there there is nothing wrong with teague it what ken strick said and Sheldon willams said there is no consistant min and woody pulls you when you mess up but everybody else can make misstakes
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
9:35 am
Its obvious look at every other pg drafted in front of teague and behind him collison, maynor they look good dont they. Please people with the would if we had brandon jennings or CP3 when young. Woody would have not played them and they would look bad as well just like teague. The proof is there there is nothing wrong with teague, it is what ken strick said and Sheldon willams said there is no consistant min and woody pulls you when you mess up but everybody else can make mistakes.
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
9:45 am
Think about it Rookie collison 22 in 34 min teague 0 in 5 min in a night when Bibby played 5min. Woody what are you thinking? dont give me teague is not ready because it is up to you to make him ready and you havent done that. He should have gotten no less then 20 minutes last night. Woody dont give me teague is not nba ready than Why did you draft him because if he is such a project then why did you not pick up another backup pg. Rick Sund did everything you wanted and you did not ask for another backup pg because he let you draft the one you wanted what is you excuse woody?
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
9:57 am
Sorry guys I not happy this morning watch the same woody coach taking about the depth we have and teague plays 5 min in a loss who is suppose to be the dackup pg. Joe johnson getting 40 plus minutes on back to back nights. I dont mind him getting 40 minutes here and there but back to back kills me. Some depth Woody. I dont care that we lost I care about the future of the ball club this season and next not just game by game like you woody. 6-18 and 8-21 thats joe and crawford if Teague goes 0-2 he coming out of the game with woody yelling at him.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:20 am
KevinA-Hawksta, I had company over yesterday and by time I could respond to you comments a new post was up, pardon the delay.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
9:44 am
KevinA
November 21st, 2009
4:54 pm
You are right as far as getting Josh, Al, Zaza on the at the same time, that would be an interesting experiment. Two power forward and a center.
We looked weak in the paint last night. We controlled nothing under the basket.
“We do have two big bodies in Rando Mo and Collins that may get more burn as we play against weaker teams.”
I would have loved to see them get major minutes last night. It was clear from the third quarter that we were not going to compete. Id like to see Mo, and Collins split 15 minutes a game, regardless of who we play. If we pay em lets play em. At the rate its going now they wont be ready for the playoffs. Lets get them some burns…
The Hawksta, I feel you. Its funny how you can tell a young man what to do, yet he always seem to do what he wants to do any way. Josh? straight from high school. Marvin? 1 year of college then straight to the pros. If you have raised children then you certainly have learned patience. Some times you have to repeat the same things over and over and thy still don’t get the message. The stand off between Josh and Woodson was a classic dad/son confrontation and Woodson hit it for a home run. In part that’s why Josh is better today. Every person has strengths and weaknesses. One of woodson’s strengths is player relationships. The players respect him. Hes earned it.
Ant Banks, right on the money. A lot of this divisiveness is coming from people who aren’t true hawk fans. At some point you may find difficulties in enjoying the season for all the miss place hate.
Big Ump here’s a surprise for the haters. The hawks will lose again before the season is over. Perhaps we should put a cart beside the Hawks bandwagon for people who want off when the Hawks lose two or three games. By the way…Who has the best record in the NBA? Who?
Rod from College Park
November 21st, 2009
6:14 pm
“Wow,
Shout out to all my HATERS. Really did not know you guys liked me so much. NIRECLOWN, KEN STRCKLAND, TERRELL BARRON, MICHELLEFROMATL and whoever else who chose to bash my name while I was not on the blog.”
Rod, I just call them the Bubba posse, that way I don’t have to spell out each name. Its like Ant Banks said, “every body here is not hawk fans”. Alot of them are here to get their B!tch on.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:31 am
I’m now using the Big Ray Rule, that states “if you know the end result of a conversation with a blogger is unfruitful, don’t waste your time engaging in conversation with them. Move on to worthwhile conversation with other bloggers.” There are enough legitimate and respectable people her to relate to than spiral down in conversation with the Bubba Posse’s message of hate and argument.
To all the whining B!tches, If it hurts your feelings that I’m not responding to you. Get over it.
I am not addressing the respectable bloggers.
If you need help in identifying which are you, the whining B!tches will be the ones who respond negatively to this blog or continue to write to me or about me when I have nothing to say to them.
The legitimate bloggers are the ones who have insight to share or a twist on commonly accepted views or who just want to say GO HAWKS!
Grandad, Sautee,Ken, I wont be responding at this time, feel free to whine and b!tch as much as you like. Let me suggest that you find some one who may find interest in what you have to say. That would enhance the conversation on this site and clear up 95.5% of the B!tching.
Good luck, Moe, Larry and Joe.
doc
November 22nd, 2009
10:35 am
cp, agree! teague has the same deer caught in the headlights look of acie. for all the hype in preseason, he has done little to allow me to forget mr. law. he is going to need some real quick coach up time. unfortunately, it seems he plays to avoid mistakes and to figure out where he belongs on the court on each play. he cant play by instinct in the nba or in this system if you want to call it that.
the guys without bibby better begin to take on the look of an aggressive defensive team until they get their qb point guard back in to direct traffic. bibby means more to this team than most would admit.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:39 am
dap01
November 22nd, 2009
7:58 am
The Bubba crew is to this blog site what Rush Limbaugh is to talk radio what Mark Richt is to the Georgia Bulldogs,- Reverse leadership.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:44 am
KevinA – Hawksta ( typo corrections)- Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:20 am
*By the time I could respond to your comments
*on the at the same time,
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
10:56 am
* on at the same time.
HawksV
November 22nd, 2009
11:08 am
There is way to much teague hype…every NBA analyst has stated, using previous draft history, that small pg’s drafted outside the lottery do not have an impact their first couple of years. Even the ones who go on to have good careers. Mike Bibby is the perfect pg for this team, there is a reason they are experiencing winning for the first time in a decade. He runs the team, he’s unselfish, knows who to get the ball to, and has hit more big shots for this team then anyone. This is the second time he has been hurt for a game, and the second time the hawks have laid an egg (Clippers last year). He is not the best pg in the league, but he is the best pg for this team because he manages egos and gets guys the ball, please stop talking about jeff teague is a savior!!!
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
doc It seems to me that Teague is lost and not ready for prime time player. I remember when Bibby, miller,Marbury, Iverson, jordon magic, Thomas and others came into the league. It was no doubt they were starters from day one but also they were capable of running the offense and having the offense revolve around them.
Teague was the 7th point guard taken in the draft and the 12th overall guard.
I dont see him on the level of a starter or some one who is destined to start. I think at best he can hope to learn the game and at some point make contributions as a role player.
I think we may be in for a disappointment if we are trying to anoint him as the guard of the future.
I understand that there are some who were drafted very low and some undrafted who have become great players in the NBA. That is more the exception than the norms.
Being the 7th point guard drafted or the 12th guard drafted overall does not mean that you are a shoe in to success in the NBA. More often the 7th best college player at a certain position better have a degree in something other than physical education.
Not to say Teague is doomed to failure, I just like to keep it in perspective.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
11:16 am
HawksV looks like we were thinking along the same lines.
Dawg Fan!
November 22nd, 2009
11:31 am
Turnovers cost Bulldogs another loss
By Tim Tucker
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Athens — All season, turnovers have been the biggest of the Georgia football team’s assorted problems — but never bigger than in the second half of the Bulldogs’ home finale Saturday night.
Georgia quarterback Joe Cox, who committed two gaffes late in the fourth quarter walks off the field after Georgia’s final drive, which resulted in a turnover.
Georgia quarterback Joe Cox, who committed two gaffes late in the fourth quarter walks off the field after Georgia’s final drive, which resulted in a turnover.
“It was the same thing that hurt us all season – the turnovers,” Georgia linebacker Rennie Curran said afterward.
“The turnovers did us in, without question,” coach Mark Richt said.
Thats it Mark Richt. The turnovers ate your home work….hahahah-LOL nice coaching!
Sautee
November 22nd, 2009
11:44 am
Grandad,
From the last blog:
Sautee: “I’m one who wants a defensive minded 5, not that Big Al is not
more yhan adequate. As a matter of fact he may very well be my
favorite Hawk. I just think we need a bigger [longer-actually]
defensive presence ['off the bench'] to guard the rim.”
Grandad, that’s just what I was saying all last season. Astro Joe and I were pushing for a longer, defensive minded second string center. Camby would have been perfect.
I just have a problem with those who say Horford is “too small” while he’s been in the top 10 in most categories for Centers and we have the best record in the league. And your old buddy Sybil insists that it’s ME who is bitchin, while here I am smiling and loving the success and wondering why folks think Horford’s not enough as a starter. I wasn’t the one complaining other than to point out his obvious hypocrisy. That’s actually what bothers him about me. Glad to know that we are on the same page.
11-3 is ok by me!
doc
November 22nd, 2009
11:48 am
truth, i agree he was anointed waaaay too early based on some moves in practice and some early preseason games. i have just not seen the “it” there yet. confidence to use innate skills folks have seen, how does he get it and from where?
of course we have beaten this one down before. to me, positive gets you there quicker and we need it quick. the other way tends to short circuit things like creativity for a while. which path are we on for mr teague is the question? more important which is the best for him as not everyone is tuned the same way? also need to allow for early learning mistakes on the positive path.
darrell starks
November 22nd, 2009
12:19 pm
THIS WHY I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT BACK FLIP.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
truly1
November 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm
teague cant be good if he is on the bench
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
12:32 pm
Doc your points are well taken. I look at whats best for teague and the realism of what he brings to the table. Just because you have the physical size or can dribble a basketball and have occasional flash does not make you NBA Material. I remember Kenny Anderson for GT and How I thought he might be one off the greatest point guards of all times. He came to the pros with all the pedigree of a two time MVP of a famous high school, let a finale four school in GT to go pro.
Kenny did good and started as a rookie.He had a decent career as a player but was never the hall of famer or allstar that his early career suggest.
I dont see that assertiveness or understanding of the game with teague. he is what he is…. the 7th best point guard from the class of 09 now playing in the NBA against the top guards drafted in the last 10 years. He may be overmatched. Im not going to make it Woodson’s responsibility to make him in to peyton or stockton.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
12:33 pm
*left a finale four school
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm
darrell starks Woodson said he wanted both Crawford and Flip but the Sunds buget wouldnt allow it.
Truth-Serum
November 22nd, 2009
12:41 pm
Just a follow up Doc, I do understand what you say about which method of learning is best for teague. I think it would behoove him if he could sit under bibby for 2 years and sprinkle that with some playing time. His mind doesnt seem to fully gasp the chess game of basketball although he has some physical skills. Sitting and watching is just as valuable to him, from where hes at, as it is to have some playing time. Actually, he is a liability now when he plays for the most part.