Come in, Houston

Dekaturkingz

November 19th, 2009
4:03 pm

Go Hawks! Uno

Dos Hawkquis

November 19th, 2009
4:19 pm

first? or second

Dom "the Don" Wilkins

November 19th, 2009
4:20 pm

HEAT CHECK BABY!!!!

Dos Hawkquis

November 19th, 2009
4:21 pm

AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGG!!!!! I have been trying to be first for the longest, but 2nd will do. Just like the Hawks, I want them to finish 1st in the East, but if they finish 2nd, I will be just as happy.

“I don’t always watch basketball, but when I do, I prefer the Hawks. Stay thirsty my friends.”

Marcus

November 19th, 2009
4:43 pm

Lets keep it up. I am interested to see where we stand after 20 games. According to the Hawks schedule, we will have played ORL by then, and game 20 is vs. DAL. We don’t play CLE until games 30 and 31 (back-to-back, city-swap game) so that will give us most of the games vs. top-performing teams by game 31, outside of PHX.

richbrave

November 19th, 2009
4:48 pm

For those of you drooling over acquiring J-Mac stop salivating. He’s not on the block. I sure wish they’ed work a deal for ARENAS though.

Volman

November 19th, 2009
5:18 pm

Great work, Ken. You’re doing a great job. Keep it coming!

Nique

November 19th, 2009
5:36 pm

Hawks have nimbers! Jamal Crawfit with the heat check!

Tony from Stone Mountain

November 19th, 2009
5:41 pm

It was weird having so many Hawks articles to read.

mountain_jim

November 19th, 2009
6:23 pm

Thanks for the links! Good reads!

Clyde

November 19th, 2009
6:34 pm

Dec. 5th at the Georgia Dome mark your calenders.

ROLL TIDE

rms

November 19th, 2009
6:51 pm

no one blogs much since Sekou left. Wonder how long the Hawks can sustain this. I am more interested to see how they react when they start to slump. Its all smiles now (which I like by the way), but when they run into some adversity I think that will really show what kind of team this is.

RA

November 19th, 2009
7:48 pm

richbrave, sometimes the best move, is no move at all.

Mychelfromatl

November 19th, 2009
8:14 pm

Horford’s on TNT. Hawks starting to get MAJOR press. Also Charles say he’s disgusted with the Atlanta fanbase. Support the team people. I also heard the ESPN announcers say the same thing yesterday.

bfred

November 19th, 2009
8:30 pm

For those of you drooling over TMac, don’t. I live in Houston now and can testify firsthand that he is not a difference maker. His stats are like Andruw Jones’ – king of the meaningless 30-point night. Doesn’t want the ball in the cruch and can’t put the team on his back when it needs a spark.

Did I mention he’s hurt all the time? Like he was most of last season, and is right now? Look elsewhere.

SWAT Native

November 19th, 2009
8:40 pm

I was just thinking, does anyone remember else all the junk that D Wade talked about how he couldn’t wait to match up with Mo Evans this summer? I wonder how he felt last night?

Sautee

November 19th, 2009
8:41 pm

bfred,

You misunderstood. richbrave was talking about Javelle McGee.

j-mac, not t-mac.

As Emily Lutilla would say “Never Mind”

MyView

November 19th, 2009
8:45 pm

I saw Horford on TNT also. I too am embarassed by all of the National Media dogging the Hawks fans for not showing up. We really need to get behind these guys. I remember all those days in the barber shop, the NBA was always big conversation. Though whenever the conversation switched to B-Ball I always got quiet. Once, someone noticed that and asked if I did not like b-ball or something. When I said yes I do, he asked me “who’s your team”. When I said “I’m a Hawks fan”, he just turned away, and they got back to talking basketball like I was not in the building. I sure do wish that shop was still around because I would love to join them in conversation now.

cdog

November 19th, 2009
8:53 pm

THE HAWKS WILL LAUNCH THE ROCKETS RIGHT BACK TO HOUSTON WITH A LOSS. THE ROCKETS CAN’T STAND TO THE HAWKS AWESOME PRESSURE.THEY ARE MINGLESS TRYING TO BEAT THE HAWKS. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. WE ARE ALREADY 11-2 AND DOMINATING THE EAST. THE HAWKS ARE TOO STRONG FOR THE ROCKETS

don't get too hyped

November 19th, 2009
9:16 pm

Before everyone crowns us champions because we beat a couple of good teams, maybe we should beat some other teams that are contenders like…Lakers (who destroyed us), Cavaliers, Spurs and some more quality teams.

I’m all for the Hawks and we have all waited a long time, but shessh let them get 20-25 games in the season and lets see where we are…

bfred

November 19th, 2009
9:18 pm

Thank God. McGrady’s a free agent this year and I’m sure some sucker will pay up for him. I just don’t want it to be the Hawks.

Pardon my reading skills.

richbrave

November 19th, 2009
9:23 pm

Yes-s-s-s. My eldest grandson just made the high school bb team as a freshman. And at only 6′1″, small forward. And this is not his sport. He just wants something to do between wooden-bat fall-ball and spring.

richbrave

November 19th, 2009
9:29 pm

For any wondering about JaVALE McGEE, he’s signed through next season with a team option in 2011-12 and a qualifying option for 2012-13. ERNIE GRUNFELD thinks he got the steal of this decade, and I tend to agree. He’s still might raw though. Misses a lot of defensive assignments. Improved from last year, but getting less burn.

doc

November 19th, 2009
10:47 pm

richie, congrats to the boy. enjoy it for sure.

A Thinking Fan

November 19th, 2009
10:57 pm

Good win! Looooong season…

O'Brien

November 19th, 2009
11:22 pm

I look forward to seeing David Andersen play tomorrow night.

And with Trevor Ariza being the Rockets leading scorer, I look forward to seeing how Marvin does defensively.

And do the Rockets put Battier on Joe Johnson?

doc

November 19th, 2009
11:31 pm

one more link:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/hawks/2009-11-19-bench-boosts-atlanta_N.htm

Ken Strickland

November 19th, 2009
11:35 pm

RICHBRAVE-congradulations to your grandson, I know you’re feeling really proud about now.

TOO HYPED-the Lakers defeated us 118-110. That’s hardly getting destroyed. Even though they had a 25+ pt lead on us at one time, we made such a furious 2nd half comeback, and cut the lead to 6pts, they had to bring their starters in to finish the gm.

There are 2 things that should have every Hawks fan excited about this team and what it can and will accomplish this yr.

(1)We’re ranked 4th in the NBA in scoring at 107.0PPG.

(2)Our DEF has gotten so much better over the last 4gms, we’ve held each opponent under 100PPG and reduced our PPG allowed from 103PPG to 98.8PPG. A strong OFF and a strong DEF that’s getting better, along with strong rebounding, especially OFF rebounding, will allow the Hawks to compete with the Cavaliers, Spurs, Magic etc.

jloofatl

November 19th, 2009
11:41 pm

Hawks officially have the best record in the entire NBA at 10-2.

rms

November 19th, 2009
11:42 pm

Phoenix lost, so does that give the Hawks the best record in the NBA right now??

gwite

November 20th, 2009
12:00 am

Yeah, the great Nashes got thier butts kicked tonight by the lowly N.O. Hornets.

MyView

November 20th, 2009
12:45 am

For those still in doubt. The Hawks have yet to play a single last place opponent outside of thier own division. So I see a lot of W’s when I look at the upcoming schedule.

MyView

November 20th, 2009
12:52 am

Of course that last place team did run us out of their building. But still…

meah

November 20th, 2009
12:56 am

Rockets have the ability to beat anyone in the nba. I can guarantee the rockets will keep this game close, and, might even get a W in the process

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
1:02 am

Do NOT underestimate Houston. They may not have a star on their team right now, but they play hard and smart every night and they are not going to go away. This is a game the Hawks cannot win solely with athleticism.

hawks_4_life

November 20th, 2009
1:45 am

Im impressed with the job Woody is doing with this team. Not to be a homer but I believe in loyatly and it’s good to see the loyalty our ownership have shown in him pay off especially when it wouldve been justified firing him in the past years. Right now Im just going to enjoy the ride this team takes me on this year and hope it ends with our last playoff game being a victory.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
6:14 am

rms

November 19th, 2009
11:42 pm
Phoenix lost, so does that give the Hawks the best record in the NBA right now??

At least for a few hrs. there is no team with a better record. If we play with high energy and good defense look for the Hawks to add days instead of hrs. to this impressive start of the season.

richbrave

November 20th, 2009
7:56 am

Thanks to doc and ken strickland. Planning a trip to a summer camp for him at the UNIVERSITY of TEXAS for baseball. Whew, those guys know how to run up the bill.

CANT SILENCE THE TRUTH!!

November 20th, 2009
8:16 am

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TURKEYS

hawks_4_life, I feel you. A lot of the haters in the Bubba posse are trying to justify the venom they spewed over the past few years. Denial is a B!tch.

The reality is most of the narrow minded hate factory workers in the southern chapter of the grand knights of hate, lacked the foresight, understanding, and patience to wait on the Hawks to grow and develop under Woodson.

Woodson took this team as a rebuilding project and began with the youngest team in basketball, which should have keynoted most basketball wise people that we are looking at 4-5 years to respectability.

Instead of showing patience in waiting for these boys to mature and learn not just Woodson style of play but how to compete in the NBA, as well as how to be a responsible man, the Bubba’s went on a ” Kill Woody” campaign that is only now beginning to subside as we are seeing the fruits of Woodson’s labor.
Jump right on this Woodson bandwagon; leave the hate baggage behind, destination championship basketball.

Woodson has done a remarkable job. We should have known there was something special here when we took Boston 7deep with at that time the 3rd youngest team in the NBA. The job Woodson is doing now is no different than the job he was doing then. The only difference is now he has more tools and talent to work with and the boys have grown and now understand Woodson’s program.

Clearly all this anti Woodson hate was predicated on a lack of knowledge. I have single out Ken Strickland and stayed in his face about it because he was the leading crew chief and stroked the flames of hate with vigor. It must be noted that although he was the ring leader he had lots of help from other ignoramuses.

The bottom line is Woodson and his Hawks, are special and in for a great year. I hope they stay healthy and go deep in the play offs. Yes, how can Woodson not get serious consideration for COACH OF THE YEAR?

What a slam dunk that would be on the Bubba crew!

Crew

November 20th, 2009
8:30 am

Can’t Silence: Try to make a point without the “Bubba Crew”. It would help your credibility.

Dan

November 20th, 2009
8:37 am

Remember when this blog used to be worth reading? I miss Sekou.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
8:39 am

Dan,

Try NBA.com. Sekou alive and well.

richbrave

November 20th, 2009
8:40 am

CAN’T SILENCE THE TRUTH:

“The reality is most of the narrow minded hate factory workers in the southern chapter of the grand knights of hate, lacked the foresight, understanding, and patience to wait on the Hawks to grow and develop under Woodson.”

Disingenuous comment sir. Are you inferring skin color and ethnicity here? Not that I’m a WOODY hater, but I had my moments last year. So you could call me a camp follower if you like, but don’t infer where I come from because of my vitriol for MW, or my lack thereof.

Daniel

November 20th, 2009
8:52 am

I really can’t stand the way Charles and Kenny dog Atlanta. I like both of them as individuals, but it seems that they have a bone to pick with the city that they are in. Last year, it was the Hawks are over hyped. Now, it’s the city is not supporting the team. I have been to half the home games this season, and yes, the Portland game was a small crowd, but those of us there made quite a lot of noise. Also, the city gets behind the team on big games and the playoffs. Seems like sour grapes to me.

Daniel

November 20th, 2009
8:57 am

We are currently ranked in the middle of the pack in attendance figures, and we have not had as many weekend and conference rival home games, yet. I bet after the Thanksgiving weekend will be in the upper third in the league in attendance. No, we are not going to out draw LA, Chicago, NY of course. Then you have Utah and San Antonio who have nothing else to do. But, we should be above Washington, etc. Currently we are equal with Orlando (who were just in the conference finals, and don’t have pro or college football to compete with) Why is no one yelping about them?

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:00 am

richbrave, I reread the post in question. I did not call you by name, sir, however you did say in your response that you were a part of anti woodson sentiment. OK. I acknowledge your statement.

As for the question of ethnicity, I don’t think that valid or relevant. Hater is a spiritual entity not limited to the flesh.

Good day sir.

Crew , thanks for the acknowledgment.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:02 am

*that’s valid
*A hater

YesIAmAHawksFan

November 20th, 2009
9:04 am

I agree that Woodson gets too bad of a rap by too many people. This is a guy that has been coaching under an embarrassment of an ownership group for years now. That being said, any true Hawks fan that has been watching this team knows that Woodson is an average coach at best. So many games I’ve found myself yelling at the TV for some bone-headed substitution, or lack thereof. But now that he has a deeper bench, he is doing a much better job, and he deserves all of the credit for this fast start.

I don’t think Bubba even watches NBA.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
9:06 am

Josh – He averaged 14.0 points and 6.2 rebounds through the first six games but has averaged 18.5 points, 12.5 boards and 2.7 blocks during the win streak
We had nice wins against Boston, Miami, Blazers, and Denver but have yet to play, teams like PHX, Houston, Spurs, Dallas, Clev and win on the road. Woody “coach of the year?” It’s a nice thought but the season is way to young to presume anything.

So far we have avoided the injury bug. Look at what Adelman is doing in Houston. His two biggest stars out and are still 7-4. Could we be without JJ and Josh and be 7-4? I do think Woody is coaching and growing in skill. Much like the young team he is coaching. Long live the streak. 6 in a row.

side note – Me being one of the Josh fans who think he and Al need the rock more.

Josh – He averaged 14.0 points and 6.2 rebounds through the first six games but has averaged 18.5 points, 12.5 boards and 2.7 blocks during the 6 game win streak.

Must have been a shot of miracle grow to his organic growth.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:20 am

KevinA , yes, it is a hopeful statement and yes, it early with a long season ahead.

I think Josh and Al get the rock enough. I like the balance this team has and the way the motion of the offense feeds off JJ and Crawford. We seemed well oiled to me. Like you, Im a Josh fanatic, but I think he works best with the offense coming to him rather than being the initiator.

Daniel

November 20th, 2009
9:22 am

KevinA- road wins in Portland and Boston, don’t count?
Josh’s game has skyrocketed for two simple reasons, fewer jump shots and a commitment to rebounding. Woody has been telling him this for 5 years.
He and Al are playing at All Star levels. And, as of right now, I think Josh should start in the East. He won’t because of fan voting, but he definitely deserves to be in the game.

I agree we need watch out for Houston. They are dangerous. But, I think we match up well.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:22 am

YesIAmAHawksFan , so if I think Woodson is doing a great job and is a very good coach would that make me” not a true hawk fan”? Must I say Woodson is average in order to qualify as a true hawks fan?

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:24 am

I dont know any power forward play better than Josh and that includes Al horford.

kwooden1

November 20th, 2009
9:35 am

As of today the HAWKS have the best record in the NBA!! The season has just begun, but its good to know we’re among the best.

Tonight’s game is one game that CLYDE should avoid, the only 7 footers will be in street cloths! Houston is tough as nails and will score a lot of points if you don’t get back on defense. The key is rebounding the ball! I watched Scola take it to Horford in FIBA summer league play so don’t think for second this is going to be domination inside. Smoove will have to bring his ‘A’ game and really box out his man. I think if Smoove and Horford box out and really hit the offensive boards we should be able to pull this one out. Bibby is going to have really problems with Brooks and JJ will have to work hard to slow down Ariza. (because of Ariza’s size) Like most teams in the league, Houston has no one on the bench to guard Crawford, this is his night to get hot again. Crawford, will have no really shot blockers to think about in the paint so he should be able to get to the basket at will. Again the HAWKS better bring their lunch pale tonight or their going to get their butts handed to them!!

GO HAWKS!!

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
9:35 am

Houston is young and will play with great effort. They also get off to fast starts, something our Hawks are not known for. They also avg 103 pt’s a game even though they are still finding their way. Josh and Al should be able to handle their front court. I hope we go low early and often and pressure the paint on offense.

Ariza is playing great, Marvin will have his hands full. Brooks had 33 pt’s on 11-23 shooting against the Lakers in a win. It will be interesting how Woody defends against a very good quick pg. Landury went 13-18 with 27 pt’s against PHX. Fun match up for Josh.

We should win this game being at home and all but this is still a dangerous team. NO beats a hot PHX last night. In this league we cannot look past anybody.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
10:15 am

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:20 am

I think Josh and Al get the rock enough. I like the balance this team has and the way the motion of the offense feeds off JJ and Crawford. We seemed well oiled to me. Like you, I’m a Josh fanatic, but I think he works best with the offense coming to him rather than being the.

That’s probably why you think Woody is a better coach than I do. I believe JJ, Bibby and Jamal or off to great starts because we are going low more. I believe they have even more upside if we go low even more.

Where would these shots come from? How about cutting down on 3pt shots by Jamal. His 3pt percentage is .255. You know what his FG% would be if he like Josh gave up on the 3? .547 Crawford needs to do what he does best – a facilatator/.initiator/driver.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
10:32 am

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2009/11/20/1165613/the-impact-of-jamal-crawford#storyjump

hawksdawgs from peachtreehoop.com has a great post on the impact of Jamal.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
10:40 am

KevinA I dont know how your comment concerning my opinion of Woody is connected to my being a Josh fan. Please forgive me, but I dont see the connection.

I Bibby has always been an excellent shooter and a three points marksman. Crawford, jj and bibby draw defenders and that opens up the baseline and the post for Al and Josh.
Al and Josh feed off JJ,Crawford and Bibby rather than the other way around.

I agree with you that Crawford should restrict his game to what he does best, as good as he is lets let JJ and Bibby bust the 3’s for us.

“It will be interesting how Woody defends against a very good quick pg. Landury went 13-18 with 27 pt’s against PHX. Fun match up for Josh.”

I dont think Woodson is playing-LOL- but you and I know that switching is the play of the day. I dont think we will shut them down but attempt to contain them.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
10:42 am

Zaza is the surprise so far to me. He is creating his own shots and finishing strong in the paint. He has certainly stepped his game up. I cant give Woodson credit for Zaza’s improvement. That belongs to Zaza and his determination to be a better player.

doc

November 20th, 2009
10:54 am

richie did the soccer routine with two. yes and worth it.

also dont forget … when in doubt scroll.

doc

November 20th, 2009
10:59 am

truth, zaza likes it here and is committed to the long view. i think he is going to be a solid citizen beyond bball in the big a. those virtues you speak of are carrying him far and good you gave notice and recognition to him, not many do. he didnt let woody shake his confidence too far and really worked to make a place and name for himself here. i was sure glad to see him grow up and get in KG’s face in person during the playoffs two years ago. better than live atlanta wrestling on saturday nights on the tube.

vava74

November 20th, 2009
11:30 am

KevinA,

Ariza is averaging 18.4 ppg on 39% shooting. I would not call that great.

He is very active with a 4.1 apg and 2.2 spg average, but with 2.8 TO per game as well.

His “visibility” is mostly due to the fact that Houston does not have anyone else to revert to for offense more than he actually having a great season so far.

With the above I don’t mean that we should not be looking closely at him, however, I am confident that Marvin can keep him perfectly under control.

Personally I am more worried with Scola and Brooks, who match up well against us.

Scola is very resourceful and Brooks is too fast for Bibby.

Dan

November 20th, 2009
12:23 pm

vava74, I like Houston a lot. They are a tough team. You know what you are going to get from them…total bulldog effort. Looking forward to tonight’s game.

I think Bibby will be alright against Brooks. If Houston is counting on Brooks to shoulder the load tonight, then they’re going to lose.

Scola and Battier (even though I hated him when he was at Duke) are two of my favorite players in the league. Tough guys that play hard all the time.

Also, surprised Ariza has played so well. He is really good. Thought that he was more of a product of having stars around him in LA. Guess he can play..

Show up tonight Hawks fans! Tickets are not that expensive!

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

doc Two years ago, my impression of Zaza wasnt what it is today. 2 years ago, even last year, he was a turnover waiting to happen and he couldnt finish in the post either.

I dont know why you want to blame his turnovers on woodson, but its funny. Kind of remind me of an violent abusive person who says “look what you made me do”.It is note worthy that signing Zaza was a “must” for Woodson which contradicts your statement. Woodson had confidence in Zaza when I did not. The real question is did zaza have confidence in himself.

I guess by the way he worked on his game and learned to create and finish he believed in himself and was able to acknowledge his own short comings, which is the first step to getting better.

RealSquawk

November 20th, 2009
12:29 pm

The Hawks are playing great.
This is going to be a great game to see if Hawks are taking every team seriously.
Marvin’s lack of production worries me.
The Hawks are playing great.
Josh Smith proved me wrong I admit and I stand corrected. He can Change.
I must also say the same about Mike Woodson.

This is going to be a fun year.
but lets stay away from roller coasters

Dan

November 20th, 2009
12:38 pm

Truth-Serum,

I agree with almost everything you said. How anyone can get down on Zaza is beyond me. The guy plays and accepts his role perfectly. Not many teams have such a scrappy big man coming off the bench.

Anyways….only thing you said that I do not agree with is that Zaza was a turnover waiting to happen last year. No he wasn’t. He had another solid year last year. I think, since the fight with KG, Zaza has played well. That altercation with KG (I call him d-bag) was a turning point for Zaza. That season he had played lousy. The first three games of the Boston series he was lousy. Things turned after the fight.

icecold

November 20th, 2009
12:40 pm

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Hawks Fan

November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

DID ANYONE SEE AL HORFORD ON TNT last night.

If you did, you saw the “new” red Hawks jersey that the team plans to unveil for our nationally televised game against the Orlando Magic on Thanksgiving night.

Let’s get ALL of our fans to wear “RED” to the game that night as our NBA- leading Hawks are wearing their “new” red jerseys.

What do you think?

Let’s get the word out NOW!!!!!

I sent an email to the folks over at AJC to see if we can get them onboard and start a blog telling the fans to wear red to the game.

What better way to SHOCK THE WORLD than to send a “RED WAVE” across the country by our fan base.

This would also be sure to ENERGIZE our team and fanbase.

What are your thoughts?

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
12:59 pm

I still have my older red jersey.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
1:03 pm

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
10:40 am
KevinA I dont know how your comment concerning my opinion of Woody is connected to my being a Josh fan. Please forgive me, but I dont see the connection.

I was not attempting that connection. I agree with you there is none.

The Al and Josh feed off JJ,Crawford and Bibby rather than the other way around.

This is our huckleberry, I think inside out play collapses the defense and opens the floor for the shooters. You think the opposite. I want the big’s to get the rock even more. You think the balance is fine.

I have no problem with your opinion. I won’t take mine seriously until somebody pays me for them.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
1:11 pm

Dan, OK we have different opinions on Zaza’s past. Id rather focus on what we agree with and that’s Super”z” is playing lights out in the paint right now and hes hitting that 12-14 footer with confidence. I doing agree that the face off (punk intended here) with KG was a turning point for the fight with in himself to push his self to a higher level. Just because you make up your mind to raise your game doesn’t mean you will have instant results. We are both glad hes a part of the mix!!@! I hope he keeps playing lights out in the paint.

I don’t think Woodson has changed as much as the fact that you find it hard to argue with Woodson’s results. Bottom line is winning. Josh has changed in that he refined his game and is growing up as a person. Other than that its the same Josh, confident, loyal and assertive. Great guy to have on any team.

Its it possible that your perception of the Hawks have changed now that you are beginning to get a clearer picture of Woody vision of this team?

Daniel

November 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

Hawks fan: I have no problem wearing red to the game on Thanksgiving. I think it is a great idea for the image of the city.

But, I don’t really care for the alternate jersey. I like the color, its just the big ATL seems a little dated to me. A little trying to hard to be cool.

I don’t think the team will need any extra energy to play Orlando on Thanksgiving, and I don’t think that we are “shocking the world” anymore. With everyone ranking the Hawks as the best team in basketball.

It would look good on TV though

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

KevinA

You funny man. I like that, keeping it real.

Famous poet once said; ” if I convince you and you convince me…wouldn’t there still be two points of view?”

Bottom line is the offense works!

Daniel

November 20th, 2009
1:15 pm

I have a feeling that the ASG is planning on handing something out to the fans, though.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
1:15 pm

Dan,

(punk intended here) *pun intended here

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
1:20 pm

icecold- thats not Doug high on Hightower, (formerly) which is now Abernathy drive. Its not coach Dollars school. Not the Astro’s

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
1:28 pm

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/11/20/nba-mvp-rankings-lebrons-quest-for-a-repeat/

At least one writer has Josh in early season MVP talk.

Grandad

November 20th, 2009
1:31 pm

K.S.: Correct me if I’m wrong but is `Can’t Sybil The Truth` contradicting himself or at least being a hypocrite. He talks about
[mostly referring to you,I suppose] you/myself/others were not patient in waiting for the Hawks growth and development. (8:16 AM) I thought that on many occasions you had discussed [organic] growth and development.

richbrave: I couldn’t agree more: disingenuous; hypocrite, childish, foul mouthed, schizophrenic among others.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
1:37 pm

Well gentlemen its been nice chatting. Ill check in later. Its a little stuffy in here suddenly…..

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
2:31 pm

Hind sight is always 20/20

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
2:43 pm

GRANDAD-when you talk out of both sides of your mouth(s), you will tend to contradict yourself(s) with regularity.

I’m a fan of what Woodson is currently doing, and has this team doing, as much as anyone. BUT ANYONE THAT SAYS, THINKS OR IMAGINES WOODSON HAS BEEN DOING THIS TYPE, LEVEL AND DEGREE OF COACHING BEFORE THE START OF THIS YR IS BLIND, CRIPPLE AND CRAZY. Before the start of this season, Woodson definitely did not:

(1)attempt to develop or utilize his bench.

(2)show concern for the wear and tear on his starters.

(3)make in gm adjustments, changes or strategies.

(4)have his team consistently play an uptempo, fastbreak, attack the basket style of ball.

(5)make an effort, or even pretend to gave a dam about developing a young player, particularly if he was a guard.

NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ

November 20th, 2009
2:45 pm

ummmm,hold on!! yes they are playing well,but they are doing so in spite of the coaching,which there is NONE!!
WOODY IS PLAYING TEAGUE EVERY 2 GAMES..instead of giving him minutes every game..and,i thought we kept morris and brought in collins to play minutes and up front with a big front line..

don’t u remember horford and smith saying how happy were that we brought in big men during pre-season,and how that will keep them fresh,not only in da pre-season but during the season??

we’re,12 games in,and i told u all after the 3rd game that teagues minutes will decrease,and soon he will be coming into every 3-4 games..

and,where is the developement of othello hunter..he is this years speedy claxton with all of the nice suits..

look for more minutes from the starters by game 15-19,and for joe,bibbs,josh,and marvin to play their usual 39plus minutes a game,with only a 7-8 man rotation..

joes legs aren’t as tired..he has the burden of being the scorer lifted as we welcome in crawford,and the comp between these guys is bringing him out of his shell and he is talking more..

but,look for this team to fall in the playoffs if we don’t begin to go 10-12 deep all season..the 2nd unit would be a nice change of pace with teague,joe smith,crawford,mo evans,zsa zsa, and every other nite,randmo,collins and othello in da mix..keeping fresh legs in..players will be ready to come in at a moments notice..it can be done..

the biggest test is gonna be,when the hawks have another road stand of 4-6 games,and they play down a notch from their competition and then woody goes back to playing 6-7 players..he then panics and leaves his starters in too freaking long..

until i see the 10-12 man rotation,then we’ll only be as good as 4th-7th.. this trip at number 1 will only be for a minute,till we see them on da road again and play on a lower level..

i am one who is not afraid to say,I TOLD U SO!!

anonymous

November 20th, 2009
3:03 pm

2002/2003 roster

No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
3 Shareef Abdur-Rahim
F 6-9 225 December 11, 1976 6 University of California

25 Corey Benjamin
G 6-6 200 February 24, 1978 3 Oregon State University

4 Chris Crawford
F 6-9 235 May 13, 1975 5 Marquette University

15 Emanual Davis
G 6-4 195 August 27, 1968 5 Delaware State University

12 Dan Dickau
G 6-0 190 September 16, 1978 R Gonzaga University

5 Dion Glover
G 6-5 228 October 22, 1978 3 Georgia Institute of Technology

8 Darvin Ham
F 6-7 220 July 23, 1973 5 Texas Tech University

40 Antonio Harvey
F-C 6-11 225 July 6, 1970 7 Pfeiffer University

44 Alan Henderson
F 6-9 235 December 2, 1972 7 Indiana University

6 Jermaine Jackson
G 6-4 204 June 7, 1976 2 University of Detroit Mercy

11 Matt Maloney
G 6-3 192 December 6, 1971 5 University of Pennsylvania

00 Amal McCaskill
F-C 6-11 235 October 28, 1973 2 Marquette University

2 Nazr Mohammed
C 6-10 221 September 5, 1977 4 University of Kentucky

38 Mikki Moore
C 6-11 225 November 4, 1975 4 University of Nebraska

14 Ira Newble
F 6-7 220 January 20, 1975 2 Miami University

42 Theo Ratliff
C-F 6-10 225 April 17, 1973 7 University of Wyoming

13 Glenn Robinson
F 6-7 225 January 10, 1973 8 Purdue University

45 Paul Shirley
F 6-10 230 December 23, 1977 R Iowa State University

31 Jason Terry
G 6-2 176 September 15, 1977 3 University of Arizona

29 Mike Wilks
G 5-10 185 May 7, 1979 R Rice University

17 Brandon Williams
G 6-6 215 February 27, 1975 2 Davidson College

#2004-2005 ATLANTA HAWKS ROSTER#
Friday, April 1, 10:52 AM
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT YRS DOB FROM
== ====== === == == === === ====
00 Tony Delk G 6-2 189 8 1/28/74 Kentucky
1 Josh Childress G 6-8 210 R 6/20/83 Stanford
3 Al Harrington F 6-9 250 6 2/17/80 St. Patrick’s (NJ) HS
5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 R 12/5/85 Oak Hill Academy
7 Tom Gugliotta F 6-10 250 12 12/19/69 North Carolina St.
10 Tyronn Lue G 6-0 178 5 5/3/77 Nebraska
13 Boris Diaw F 6-8 215 1 4/16/82 France
14 Predrag Drobnjak C 6-11 270 3 10/27/75 Serbia
15 Donta Smith G 6-7 215 R 11/27/83 Southeastern Illinois
36 Royal Ivey G 6-3 200 R 12/20/81 Texas
40 Jason Collier C 7-0 260 4 9/8/77 Georgia Tech
42 I-Kevin Willis C 7-0 245 20 9/6/62 Michigan St.
44 I-Michael Stewart C 6-10 230 7 4/25/75 California
54 Obinna Ekezie F 6-9 270 4 8/22/75 Maryland

2005-06 Atlanta Hawks:
Roster
Glossary ▪ CSV ▪ PRE
No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
11 Esteban Batista
F-C 6-10 270 September 2, 1983 R
1 Josh Childress
G-F 6-8 210 June 20, 1983 1 Stanford University

00 Tony Delk
G 6-1 189 January 28, 1974 9 University of Kentucky

54 John Edwards
C 7-0 275 July 31, 1981 1 Kent State University

16 Anthony Grundy
G 6-3 180 April 15, 1979 R North Carolina State University

3 Al Harrington
F 6-9 230 February 17, 1980 7
36 Royal Ivey
G 6-3 200 December 20, 1981 1 University of Texas at Austin

2 Joe Johnson
G 6-8 225 June 29, 1981 4 University of Arkansas

10 Tyronn Lue
G 6-0 175 May 3, 1977 7 University of Nebraska

27 Zaza Pachulia
C 6-11 240 February 10, 1984 2
15 Donta Smith
G-F 6-7 215 November 27, 1983 1 Southeastern Illinois College

2006-2007 roster

5 Josh Smith
F 6-9 225 December 5, 1985 1
20 Salim Stoudamire
G 6-1 179 October 11, 1982 R University of Arizona

12 John Thomas
F 6-9 265 September 8, 1975 4 University of Minnesota
kind of hard to keep a winning rotation with this

24 Marvin Williams
F 6-9 230 June 19, 1986 R University of North Carolina

doc

November 20th, 2009
3:59 pm

truth, too funny my man. yes, i guess it was a back handed slap at your main man woody, though it wasnt meant to be. i have been fairly objective with woody to the point of saying that he should be given more cred than he has been given this year and in others. that has also been my tune with josh smith as well over the past few years but i usually sided with josh than woody in some of their outbursts, my bad.

if you have time, which it seems you do, you can go back even to some of the worst years when i was blogging and you were maybe back in la still, and know i defended him for keeping the guys playing hard and growing up. however, i do look at some coaches as being confidence builders and some not. not saying which is better as it depends on what you are trying to achieve. i dont think i will get too many folks to say woody is the former over the latter but you. but whatever not meant to slander your boy woody though it seems you are bit sensitive today or everyday about him. kinda funny for a tough guy from la to be so sensitive about anything but whatever. sorry to offend you in my choice of terms and examples. again too funny man, thought i was concurring with you. you are probably too tough to want that anyway.

Grandad

November 20th, 2009
4:12 pm

So now he’s Tough Sybil ?

Big Ump

November 20th, 2009
4:13 pm

Truth Serum

D-m D-m good post at 8:16 m

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
4:18 pm

DOC-remember, you’re addressing TRUTH SERUM, so there’s no need to apologize for your choice of words. He’s an entirely different personality, or alter ego, than the vulgar, hardnosed excuse maker we were addressing earlier. However, they are all extremely sensitive, especially when it comes to Woodson.

In fact, their reverence, dedication and embellishment of his accomplishments are so unbelievably strong and unwavering, along with certain others, that I often wonder if they get an erection whenever they see him pictured on the sidelines.

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
4:39 pm

ILL-LOGICAL-You’ve expressed some apprehension about us possibly losing to Houston if we take them for granted. Now, think about that for a minute. When is the last time we went into a season assuming we will win a gm against a good them, and worrying about the possibility of losing, rather than just hoping we’ll play well enough to have a chance to win?

Yes, we’ve come a long way baby!!

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
4:41 pm

That’s good TEAM.

Big Ump

November 20th, 2009
4:58 pm

Truth Serum Do you reliaze how a certain blogger got so mad because Woody don’t start Teague. Make you think that that they were Teague
lover. I can see them dropping their pants everytime he enter the game. Do you want to know who is that blogger? Just wait he will be posting very soon. I guarantee it.

jerrywest

November 20th, 2009
5:43 pm

The real reason Atlanta is winning:
http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-story-of-the-2009-10-season-might-just-be-happening-in-atlanta/
Click the table to see the difference in Smith. He is playing at the level of Howard.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
6:18 pm

Something I read. Do not hate on me. LOL thought it was funny.

horsecow // November 20, 2009 at 10:30 am

My theory for Josh Smith’s improvement: imagine a near-empty locker room, Josh Smith is sitting at his locker when Jamal Crawford walks in, an angry scowl on his face.

JC: I see you took five threes today.
JS: Yeah, so? I do it all the time.
JC: But you only made one.
JS: That’s just my game, man.
JC: [grabbing Smith by the collar] Look here sonny, I got to where I am today by jacking up ill-advised threes. That’s who I am. I’ve even changed my name legally to Jamal Ill-Advised Three Crawford. There’s only room on this team for one ill-advised three-point shooter, and by God it’s going to be me.
JS: Chill out, man. I guess I’ll just try to get attention some other way. Blocking shots or something. Rebounding. We’ll work it out. I know bad threes are your thing.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
6:46 pm

Orlando plays Boston. At least somebody gets a loss.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
7:29 pm

2nd that KevinA. My thoughts exactly. Either Boston or Orlando gets an L tonight. Win win solution for HAwks.

Great to see Horford on TNT last night. First time a Hawk player has been invited in ten years. The world is finally giving our ball club some respect! AL looked good up there. Hope to see Josh up there sometime.

Hawks must win tonight to maintain a perfect home record and remain the best team in the entire NBA/World. Houston is a scrappy bunch that plays hard, but I don’t think these new look Hawks are gonna take them lightly. Not sure how long Hawks dominance can last, but I’m riding it as long as it does!

Appreciate, guys! Please keep the links coming!

Remember off season when folks wanted to trade Josh?

Go Hawks, Go!

bigdave

November 20th, 2009
7:34 pm

LETS GET IT…!!!

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
7:35 pm

Big Ump, you picked up on that.We all wish woody would play our favorite players, but hey, it his team! Unless they are losing more games each year rather than winning more I say hes doing well. When ever I see us play I always think we are well coached win or lose.

I appreciate the shout out on my 8:16 post. Ive read your stuff for quite a while, I agree with a lot that you say.
Yeah, I know whose whining because teague is not running the floor making rookie turnovers- LOL.

Doc , you are equally as funny. Doesnt bother me at all. I jump right into the hater’s den. Keeps me sharp. Not to say you are a hater. You have your opinion. My experience has been that no one can give me confidence or take it away. Thats a me and God thing. I challenge people to take responsibility for themselves and not come up with cop outs or blame some one else for there own short comings.

I saw a poster yesterday that said ” the world is full of mistakes and short comings. You cant change that. Learn to accept the world on its level, and then rise above it. ”

Naw, you did not offend me. I have no problem with a different view from mine. As a matter of fact you are nearly correct on this issue. I just started with Sekou’s blog this year. Most of the people Ive come to know for the first time and many are decent people. Others are more followers than leaders and have no ability to think for themselves, so they closely follow others. As long as they are happy then cool.

I knew Kens whining or posting, which ever you prefer from Schultz and Bradley’s blogs so I had seen his regurgitation s and knew where he was coming from. As for every one else on this page, Ive learned where they stand by reading them.

Any way Doc and Big Ump, I appreciate the shout out guys, way to keep it real! I look forward hearing your thoughts in the future. Go Hawks!@!

Blast

November 20th, 2009
7:46 pm

Hawks must keep Houston away from the offensive boards!

Anything we get from Marvin will be a bonus.

1 foul each for Al, Josh and Joe already. Not good. Sloppy play early.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
7:56 pm

Marvin damn he’s ready tonight!

Blast

November 20th, 2009
7:56 pm

Marvin!!!!!!!

nvnvnv

November 20th, 2009
7:57 pm

Marvin shows up!

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
7:58 pm

Its the Marvin Williams Show….lol…

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
7:58 pm

He’s baaaaaa-aaaaaaaaack…

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
7:59 pm

They are feeding him and he is finally feeling it! Yes we needed this bad fellas!

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
7:59 pm

Yeah Marvin, earn your number 2 pick status…

vava74

November 20th, 2009
7:59 pm

I’m new over here… who’s that guy with jersey no. 24???

bigdave

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

MAAAAAAAARRVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIN!!!

grandad… here he goes…

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

It the great words of Nique’ “Marvin is cooking with grease”…. Will Rod come on the blog tonight…lol

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

If I was Houston on defense I’d be like where the hell was this in the scouting report

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

He’s back from where Niremetal? The dead?

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

Houston we have a problem, its MARVIN WILLIAMS!!! Welcome back buddy!

terrell barron

November 20th, 2009
8:00 pm

Marvin is on fire. Huh Rod? lol!

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:02 pm

Woody ain’t gonna like that rookie mistake!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
8:04 pm

sloppy Teague…

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:05 pm

Enter your comments here

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:06 pm

To the way he was playing before he got hurt last year, Rod.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:06 pm

Houston is staying in this game by hustling and crashing the boards on offense. They actually have a very similar game plan for success as the Hawks, just with about half the talent. Still, chances are they will keep executing, and the Hawks are not going to win this game on talent alone.

Props to Marvin. That was a hell of a quarter, let’s see if he can keep it up. The Rockets only have one Battier, so if he’s on Joe Johnson, Marvin can make them pay.

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:06 pm

Wow, one quarter and you guys say he’s back. Back from where? HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING LIKE THIS….He’s back from what? He hasn’t done sh*t his whole career..

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:07 pm

Niremetal, this is not Rod numbskull.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:09 pm

Crawford seems like he brought his lunch tonight

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:10 pm

And I’m not sure Houston has the depth to match Hawks. I see Hawks wearing them down eventually.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:10 pm

Now THAT was a superstar move by Joe Johnson. There are very few players in the league who can make that shot.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:12 pm

You can try and fool as many people as you want, Rod. But I KNOW that “Sam” and “Rod” are the same person. You slipped up and used the same computer to post under both names. Should be more careful about that in the future. I don’t really care how many other people you try to fool, but I’m not gonna play the game anymore. And even if you hadn’t made that slip, anyone with a brain would conclude from your writing style, frequent use of “clown,” and singleminded obsession with Marvin would figure it out.

But hey, have fun trying to fool other people. I don’t care enough about your feelings or your opinion to care anymore.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:13 pm

Celtics playing lots of one on one basketball. They won’t beat Orlando playing that way. 15-6 Orlando.

nvnvnv

November 20th, 2009
8:14 pm

Charlie Murphy with the block!

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
8:17 pm

Nire,

Normally I try to stay out of others agruments (at least I think) but I can voch that Sam and Rod are separate persons and Sam is a die heart Hawks fan….

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:17 pm

Andersen should be a Hawk? Don’t know what happen during his contract talks

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
8:17 pm

*vouch

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:19 pm

David Andersen looks pretty good on the offensive end, but quite lost on the defensive end. Not saying he wouldn’t have helped the Hawks, but I’d rather have Zaza and Joe Smith.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:19 pm

@Nire! You are hilarious! You know Rod’s in the closet!

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:19 pm

Niremetal,

You are an idiot dude. I am not Rod. I know Rod, but I am not Rod. We just both know that Marvin sucks. Any real basketball guy will tell you the guy sucks. I hope the guy plays well, that means we are really unstoppable then.

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:20 pm

Is it me, or is Joe getting to the hole at will on Battier. Yeah Marvin, play like you’re a number 2 pick!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:20 pm

Keep feeding Marvin on offense please. Milk this for all it’s worth.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:20 pm

Then they just happened to use the same computer to make posts? Ah whatever. I suppose they could have had a Marvin haters’ convention at some point, or one could have posted using they other’s name. Whatever. My bad if it’s true, but that stretches credibility for me, and I never intend to have a visual verification.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:21 pm

Bailout foul ref! That was a bs move by Landry

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:22 pm

Maybe they are brothas from another mother(he! he!)

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:23 pm

Uh oh! Nire he said he knows Rod!? Maybe you got something here

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:25 pm

SAM, Rod isn’t posting so we gotta believe….

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:25 pm

Josh needs to slow down. He’s playing too fast right now.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:27 pm

Doesn’t it feel like we should be up more than this? We’re playing well, we’re not missing shots, and we’re a much more talented team than they are…

nvnvnv

November 20th, 2009
8:28 pm

That was a blocking foul…he didn’t charge. BS

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:28 pm

Nice dish by Joe… he led the receiver like Peyton with that one. You don’t see a whole lot of passes like that in half court offenses.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
8:28 pm

*not missing open shots

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:28 pm

Hawksta, me and Rod have posted at the same time before and this fool still believes we’re the same.

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
8:31 pm

That beautiful baseline cut without the ball by Crawford, and the insuing pass from JJ, is something you never would have gotten from Flip.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:32 pm

When you see Ariza go one-on-one, you can really see that he has picked up a lot of tricks from Kobe. He missed it, but that turnaround jumper he just shot was straight out of Kobe’s arsenal.

vava74

November 20th, 2009
8:32 pm

Who cares if Rod is Sam or whatever.

Marvin is a good player and anyone claiming otherwise does no sh*t about basketball.

He is still under development and was in a funk. Now he is looser. He is probably not as good as he is playing right now, but he definitely is not as bad as he was playing before. i

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
8:33 pm

Marvin!

Could tonight be a new career high for him?

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
8:34 pm

Marvin, 20pts in the 1st half… My goodness, he’s cooking that expensive grease…

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:35 pm

vava74,

Marvin is a decent player, but not a great player. Number 2 picks should be great players. Don’t you agree?

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
8:36 pm

And I am sooooo happy he is having a good game tonight… If he has more games like this, the Hawks will really be unstoppable.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
8:37 pm

AT least Marvin said its about hard work. I am glad he did not use the convenient cop out the bloggers use: coach woodson broke my player confidence.

vava74

November 20th, 2009
8:38 pm

Sam, #2 players are #2 players. You cannot judge a player his whole life because a decision made by someone else. Let him be!

If we had seleceted Paul, maybe we could be better, maybe we could be worse. It’s in the past and you cannot alter that.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:40 pm

Marvin? WTF? 2 guys Hawks badly needed to step up are doing just that. Marvin and Jamal.

Hawkstar: We hashed out the Anderson situation in the off season. He was making mad money in Europe and he wanted more money than Hawks were willing to pay. Hence, Joe Smith and Collins on the vet minimum.

Not trying to get into somebody else’s arguement, but I recall vividly the Sam/Rod double post as well.

Billy Knight

November 20th, 2009
8:41 pm

Dear Sam,

I drafted Marvin #2 over Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Why are you mad at him for my decision?

Sincerely,
William Knight

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:42 pm

Wow SAM! Save the energy for the Phillips Arena(lol)! I gotcha dude! It’s all in fun! Just wondering why he ain’t on either blog! We got love for another Marvin hater though. I feel you on your comments! I think Marvin is sensitive. Why should you be a streak shooter when you can drive to the basket like he can. It dosn’t make sense.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
8:42 pm

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:10 pm
And I’m not sure Houston has the depth to match Hawks. I see Hawks wearing them down eventually.

best comment of the half

cp

November 20th, 2009
8:42 pm

Great game so far. Nice to see Marvin show up. He isn’t pressing tonight and it shows.

I wish some of these bloggers would just go ahead and exchange emails so the rest of us can talk about the Hawks while they continue their petty back and forth about Woodson and other issues most of us don’t care about. Everyday its the same people with the same crap over and over. We get it man. Why dont you guys email Sund and tell him to extend Woody so we don’t have to read about this everyday. Its about this Hawks team I could care less at this point about the coach’s contract. If he continues to do a good job it will take care of itself.

KMP

November 20th, 2009
8:43 pm

The CP3 ship has sailed. Why people want to keep looking back is beyond me. The last time I checked CP3’s team was damn near in last place! One player cannot do it all and this years Hawks team is showing that if you keep your team (and your coaching staff) in tact – big things can happen. Its time to move!! GO HAWKS!!!

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
8:43 pm

WTG Marvin – Now it is time to go low and pressure the paint. They will collaspe.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:49 pm

BLAST, I remember the conversation ! Thanks for reminding me. I just heard how Houston gave him a big 2yr contract to go there. Nuff said! We don’t overpay! Even Joe has to prove his worth! Longtime Hawks fan from College Park also. Lakeshore Lancer alumni. Rod and I probably crossed paths back in the day. SAM pretty sure we bumped in to each other at Greebriar or Circuit City.

Let’s go Hawks!!!

bigdave

November 20th, 2009
8:49 pm

you would think folks were mad that Marvin contributed, and is looking to get out of his slump. he does play for the Hawks…

Blast

November 20th, 2009
8:51 pm

KevinA:

Thanks, dude. Appreciate that.

cp: Second that. Same ole arguement everyday from the same people. Swap emails and hash your sh!t out!

Or maybe go on a date. Heh, heh, heh!

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:52 pm

Cp I know you’re a lifer! But we discuss Hawkstalk on the Hawks blog. Come on man let’s not restrict any comments as long as they are relative!

O'Brien

November 20th, 2009
8:53 pm

After this outburst, maybe Marvin will finally average double figures for the season.

Hawks need to protect the paint (no offensive rebounds), but I like the way we’re playing. Just continue to run, and turn up the defense

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
8:56 pm

Hawks are getting muscled on the boards! A lot of fouls no calls!

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:00 pm

Offensive rebounds, non refs calls for Hawks are keeping Houston in the game. But Hawks are gonna beat them.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
9:09 pm

The reserves will pick us up tonight!

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
9:09 pm

Houston hits the boards hard and they are undersized..

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
9:11 pm

Crawford with the dee Marvin for 33333333!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
9:11 pm

Good teams work like this. If someone is too covered (JJ) others step up!

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
9:13 pm

I think Marvin will get 30 tonight!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
9:15 pm

the refs are determined to get us a home loss today…

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:16 pm

Zaza not paying attention to details right now.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:16 pm

Zaza needs to pull the ball in instead of tipping it out. They are waiting for him to tip it out. Pull it in and shield his body.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:23 pm

Refs determined to cost Hawks the game tonight. Hawks just have to play through it!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:24 pm

That’s like the 3rd illegal screen this game…

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
9:25 pm

Its a block party and the Houston Rockets are invited….

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:25 pm

BOARDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we not clean up the glass tonite?!?!?!?!??!

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:26 pm

Refs know Josh is the lightning rod. They trying to get him out!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
9:29 pm

we are getting creamed by the refs… too much media attention and now here is the reality check…

we need to win against all this

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:31 pm

If they have any balls, the Spirit Group need to lodge an offical complaint to the League office about the quality, or lack off in this game, and the gross disparity in foul calls.

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
9:32 pm

Will the starters have enough in the tank to finished the game strong???

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:32 pm

Biggest test for Hawks tonight. Home and all.

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:33 pm

If the Hawks would clean up the glass the REFS would be irrelevant.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
9:38 pm

Don’t sell Houston short, Wabe. They rebound offensively like the Hawks, and they are doing it tonight. Hawks have done okay on the glass, but they are not getting any call.

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:38 pm

LETS GO!

LETS GET THIS W!

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
9:38 pm

Let’s take this game now!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:39 pm

I hear you Blast. But have you taken a look at the offensive rebounding figures this game? Last I checked, it was running about 15-3 Houston – but that was a while back.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:42 pm

MARVIN!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:42 pm

Damn.

Marvin had himself a monster game!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
9:42 pm

Marviiiiin!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:43 pm

And there’s another steal + finish from Horford on the other end.

Lets go! Put this one away!

Sam from da Swats

November 20th, 2009
9:46 pm

Yeah Marvin, bout time!!

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:47 pm

JJ and Crawford may be the best guard combo in the NBA

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
9:48 pm

Just as impressive as Marvin’s offense today has been his aggressiveness on the glass and on defense. Josh Smith has sat most of this 4th quarter, and the Hawks haven’t skipped a beat because of Marvin’s contributions.

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:51 pm

We were just up 10 with all the momentum needed to close this one out.

Common guys! D ^^^^^^^^^^^^!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
9:51 pm

rockets are getting away with a lot of contact

rms

November 20th, 2009
9:55 pm

Good teams find a way to win despite the refs choking on the whistle. The Hawks seem to be that team!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 20th, 2009
9:55 pm

This is a real slug fest from what i see – lets hope we have enough left in the tank for tomorrow at New Orleans Arena – I’ll be there the crunkest man in the stands.

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
9:56 pm

He grabbed Marvins hand

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:57 pm

Big posession right here.

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
9:59 pm

What a horrible look.

Are you kidding me? You’ve got to be looking to drive that ball into the lane and try to get the ref to blow the whistle.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
9:59 pm

Kinda disappointed that this comes down to the last possession, after the Hawks outplayed the Rockets most of the game. They should have been able to put this game away in the last few minutes.

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
9:59 pm

Why did Bibby attempt that shot? I thought they could have work it for a better shot, if not closer shot…

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
10:00 pm

The Hawks gotta stay on the boards here.

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
10:02 pm

Terrible game management to end the 4th qtr….

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
10:03 pm

Bibby hits the game winner! Who wants to take this bet

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
10:03 pm

No doubt about that.

10 point lead with 2 1/2 minutes left – gotta protect that lead at home.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

Josh!!!!!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

SMOOVEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

Josh Smith with the game saver! What a finish!

Truth-Serum

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

Bam!

Melvin

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

Josh Smith MVP

kirkinga

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

WOW! Hightlight Factory Indeed!

Wabe

November 20th, 2009
10:04 pm

I love it!!!!!!!!!

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
10:05 pm

Man this dude has really grown up!!!

vava74

November 20th, 2009
10:05 pm

Jooooooooosh!!!!!! WHOOOOOAAAAAHHHHH!!!

rms

November 20th, 2009
10:05 pm

That was good. I wish I had tickets to the game.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
10:06 pm

HELL YEAH, JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kane337

November 20th, 2009
10:08 pm

JSMOOVE!!!! Way to go Hawks!!!

D.carter

November 20th, 2009
10:08 pm

C’mon Woody u almost blew the the game with that Iso joe non-sense….Crawford is a much better 1 on 1 player than joe

Freshmaker

November 20th, 2009
10:09 pm

Wow! What a game! Man I love this team.

Blast

November 20th, 2009
10:09 pm

Though win, but Hawks pulled it off.

Kudos to Josh Smith. Game winner of the day.

Hawks have the best record in the league right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cincyatlfan

November 20th, 2009
10:11 pm

Joe 45 minutes 6-19, Mo 2 minutes 0-0. Woody, you the man, best team in the nba, one of the worst coaches.

kirkinga

November 20th, 2009
10:14 pm

Well a win is a win is a win. The question now is there anything left in the tank for tomorrow after tonight’s sky-high win? I think the play of the bench tomorrow will be the deciding factor.

Go Hawks!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
10:16 pm

Yeah, someone is going to have to step up and pick up the slack tomorrow. No way the Hawks can play Joe another 40 after his workload tonight. New Orleans showed they can still be a tough out even with no CP3, by beating Phoenix yesterday, so the Hawks can’t sleep on this game either.

The Hawksta

November 20th, 2009
10:16 pm

Long time no see Kirk! Know you’ve been watching! Never to high never to low(lol)!

JSS

November 20th, 2009
10:17 pm

Now, I rarely say this, but on the subject of Marvin Williams, I told you so!

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
10:17 pm

Houston is by far the best 7-5 team in the NBA. This 7gm winning streak ties last yrs longest. Marvin played the gm we needed him to play, otherwise, we lose this gm big time.

It’s amazing how some of you Marvin haters will bash and degrade him, even though we’re winning, yet use WE’ER WINNING to challenge anyone making any comments you feel aren’t flattering to MWoodson. THAT’S JUST PLAIN STUPID. We finally have a quality team, and you’re taking every opportunity to bash a key element of the team.

Thank you HC Mike Woodson for not being as negative minded, overreactive, and in some cases just plain ignorant, as some of your more ardent supporters when dealing with MWilliam.

niremetal

November 20th, 2009
10:20 pm

That was an Horry-esque play by Josh. He wasn’t even on Houston’s radar, nobody was watching him on the last possession, Josh saw that everyone else was just sitting around watching Bibby’s shot go up, and he stepped up and made the big play. And so emphatic! That one tops JJ’s 30-foot icer against Philly last year.

KevinA

November 20th, 2009
10:20 pm

I can give the Marvin bashers a break tonight. Tomorrow a different story lol. WTG Hawks

bigdave

November 20th, 2009
10:22 pm

depth will be huge this year…

big scoring efforts from struggling of late Marvin and Jamal…

though they were all over our backs, they killed us on the offensive glass. im worried about JT confidence… GREAT WIN

vava74

November 20th, 2009
10:25 pm

Tough game tonight.

I really feel that refs went after us big time. Al and Josh got called on everything while HOU’s guys were getting away with pushes on the back to get some of those rebounds.

Also, poor management of our 10pts margin, a mark of a still immature team.

Great game by Marvin and Crawford.

Since Josh and Al played less today, they should be OK for tomorrow and in principle we will get in without taking them for granted, in light of their performance in ATL and tonight’s performance by HOU.

Our bread n butter has been rebounding and with both Al and Josh limited by fouls we struggled to box out the small HOU line up.

Biiby made a very poor decision with that 3 pointer and that prolonged the discussion unnecessarily: drive and get the foul. Basic stuff which was overlooked.

Fortunately his last second shot was not too bad and rolled enough to give Josh the rebound. Great hustle.

Difficult but pleasing win: the game did not go our way and nonetheless we got the win.

Clyde

November 20th, 2009
10:30 pm

Ok I’m starting to believe in this team now.

Roll Tide

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2009
10:37 pm

We have too many weapons to have a prolonged letdown like we sometimes did last yr following the end of a winning streak. Just think, we are 11-2, with the NBA’s best record, and have yet to play a gm where every starter has played well, WOW!

I don’t know how many of you noticed, but MWoodson did an excellent job of dealing with Smoove’s situation. When we had a 6-10pt lead, he kept him on the bench because he knew the Rockets would start fouling intentionally. Yet, when the gm got down to a 3pt lead, he put him in knowing they wouldn’t intentionally foul, and low and behold, Smoove won the gm.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 20th, 2009
10:43 pm

I agree that Woody handled the J-Smoove situation nicely in the 4th, especially with his idea of keeping the hot Marvin in the game to replace him, but I did think he should have given Joe Smith and Zaza Pachulia more burn in the late 3rd and early 4th quarters when Houston was clawing its way back with their offensive boards. Either one of those guys would have probably helped on the glass. Joe Smith only played 5 minutes in this game.

O'Brien

November 20th, 2009
10:47 pm

Ken,

Woody also did a good job subbing defense (Josh) for offense (Bibby)on a couple possessions at the end.

I did not like the way we tried to milk the clock with Joe pounding the ball at the end, because we ended up taking bad/rushed shots.

That being said, I’ve been on Marvin all year…so good job Marvin (co-player of the game). These are the kind of performances we need to see more often. And even if you’re not scoring many points, we need you to shoot a high percentage.

Good job players and coaches. Lets beat the Hornets tomorrow.

nvnvnv

November 20th, 2009
10:47 pm

Game

Reggie (The Bird and Indian)

November 20th, 2009
10:53 pm

What a game folks. I’m glad I got to watch that one from the factory. Joe has to get a break tomorrow night. Play him 35 minutes max. He was worn out all game trying to get inside on Battier. It was a grind it out game for him and he made some big baskets. Marvin was on. Crawford was on. Horford was on. The Hawks are on. I’m looking forward to some nights on here once we get to December, where I have time. I’m mostly looking forward to Rod/Sam.

richbrave

November 20th, 2009
11:12 pm

doc

November 20th, 2009
10:54 am
richie did the soccer routine with two. yes and worth it.

also dont forget … when in doubt scroll.

Yeah, doc. I thought the blog was all clean of these fools, and only serious HAWKS fans populated these premises. Sigh. Another disappointment in life. Hell,what’s new?

HAWKS looking strong once again. WIZARDS so bad the local affiliate of COMCAST put on ice hockey. And of course, the CAPOS lost. I flipped channels in frustration ’till ten o’clock.

doc

November 20th, 2009
11:30 pm

truth: “My experience has been that no one can give me confidence or take it away. Thats a me and God thing. I challenge people to take responsibility for themselves and not come up with cop outs or blame some one else for there own short comings.”

dont disagree with it at all and in my business that is one of the things iam working to break folks free of, being the victim. again my point is some build u up, some tear u down. different strokes for different strokes. ultimately, you have to take responsibility for the bed you make.

doc

November 20th, 2009
11:40 pm

richie, working and loving, cant beat it.

glad to see marvin get untracked, i know some folks like to beat down players, me i want them all to succeed as we are going to need all of these guys on board if we want to take it to a higher level. still want to see more and quicker ball movement like the C’s do it. good spacing and quick passes are the key to our defense.

j smash lives! JOSH=MVP!

HAWKS!

November 20th, 2009
11:47 pm

I was there tonight and although it was only about 85% full, it seemed like a GREAT crowd. it was constantly loud and the crowd went crazy several times through out the game. great win

GO HAWKS

Samuel

November 20th, 2009
11:53 pm

Missed the game again but my high school team is still in the hunt. We did it again. I love high school football. Nice to see Marvin have a good game and the Hawks take care of business. We’re starting to look like a real contender right now. beating the teams we’re supposed to and competitive against everybody.

Has Woody earned his extension yet? What more does a man have to do?

Extend my Woody
Josh=All Star
JJ=All NBA
Woody=COY

Josh

November 20th, 2009
11:58 pm

that game was sick…. glad i had a chance to be there! marvin made some shots tonight!

Billy Knight

November 21st, 2009
12:08 am

Dear Mr. Sam F.D.S.,

I still await your response to my question. Why are you still mad at Marvin for being picked #2? I was the one who picked him there, Marvin didn’t draft himself that high.

Sincerely,
William Knight

Grandad

November 21st, 2009
12:15 am

bigdave: I’m with you on J.T.
Marvin – good kid , he deserved (earned) a night like tonight.

doc: I’m not necessarily responding to your post.
bigdave – Bill Parcells said “confidence comes from demonstrated
ability.” Concerning J.T.; he only needs ample opportunity
to demonstrate said ability.

***People keep discussing how our depth is going to be a factor down
the road, but, a player such as Teague may not be in the picture
down the road. The less he plays, the further he gets behind.
Eventually he will be an afterthought. Whereas a player like J.Smith
can play limited min. and not miss a beat [15 yrs.].

Having said all that, I’m not complaining, being a longsuffering fan
just like all you fellas. This season is what we’ve all been waiting
for.

T.S.: You say you can read and tell where everyone stands. Thats not necessarily so. Sometimes folks are simply objectve and you/others
assume you know exactly what a guy thinks. myself, I might criticize
someone’s post and yet respect that person immensely.

RLP

November 21st, 2009
12:33 am

I think Marvin’s play tonight demonstrates why this team is on the rise. I cannot remember a Hawks team that had the offensive firepower this years team possesses. before the year began I predicted 50-55 wins for this team. Right now I think the team has the ability to brake the franchise record for wins in a season of 57. Let’s ride this hot spell as long as it will go and hope it does not end even though it inevitably will. But what a ride this team is on. It brings to mind all of the great years of the past. This year’s start is making up for years of heartbreak. Let’s keep it going and ride it as long as it will go.

doc

November 21st, 2009
12:33 am

SAMUEL SON ….. ROLF

what is friday for but to extend your woody?

grandad not sure what you mean. i am saying that teague hasnt distinguished himself on the floor during the regular season except in a mop up situation and not impressed with teague on monday. it will come but agree with ando he doesnt have to be pushed now. hopefully he will have “it” by march.

JeJe

November 21st, 2009
12:34 am

WHY DID WE HAVE NO BIGS IN AT THE END TO REBOUND THE FREE THROWS? TOO RISKY

Mychelfromatl

November 21st, 2009
12:38 am

Rod From College Park,

Where the hell are you dude???? Show your face bruh. If you gonna hate on Marvin when he’s down, atleast have the class to hate on him when he have a great game also SMH, HATER!!

I was at the game tonight, the arena wasn’t as full as it was on Wednesday but still a pretty good crowd; loud and energetic as always!!!

Also the women of Philips Arena, lordhavemercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Hawks may not rank number 1 in attendance nighty, but it most-def rank number 1 in beautiful women, good god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
12:44 am

COsign Mychelfromatl! I was at the Portland game! The women in Phillips are amazing! Everywhere you look! All races too!

cp

November 21st, 2009
12:51 am

Great win. Big games from Marvin, Crawford, and Horford. Josh struggled tonight but that putback was the most important shot of the night. I don’t like how we rebounded. We gave up way too many offensive rebounds. Houston is a good team. They are missing their two big guns but they play so hard that you have to appreciate what they do out there on the court. Chalk up the win and get ready for the next opponent.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 21st, 2009
1:06 am

The Hawksta
–COsign Mychelfromatl! I was at the Portland game! The women in Phillips are amazing! Everywhere you look! All races too!–

Man, I wish I was there to witness it all – I’m sure it’ll be slim pickings at New Orleans arena tonight. lol.

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:13 am

Gotta a great link for those had can’t get enough links on the Hawks

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-story-of-the-2009-10-season-might-just-be-happening-in-atlanta/

good read!

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:15 am

Are you serious Hawksfan from the NOLA? Well… Maybe you are! We have quite a few women from your parts up here(lol)! I date one too!

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:18 am

Sorry for all the typos getting late(he! he!) Great link for my fellow late night Hawks fans! Some guy has way too much time on his hands for all this mathematical stuff. But here it goes!

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-story-of-the-2009-10-season-might-just-be-happening-in-atlanta/

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 21st, 2009
1:26 am

I just saw the highlights from the game and that put back by Josh at the end was the stuff of legend! That was pure basketball instinct right there. Great way to break the slump too Marvin and Jamal! I would be the only fool to meet The Hawks at Louis Armstrong International Airport!jk

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 21st, 2009
1:29 am

The Hawksta,
I’m actually from the A but gotta great job down here – my wife is from New Orleans, but she was up there for 10 years. Its funny but my last few girl friends b4 I got married were from New Orleans – they have some fine ones – its just that most of the eye candy moved on to greener pastures like Atlanta, lol.
I’ll check out that link though.

Ken Strickland

November 21st, 2009
1:32 am

When I’m wrong, I’ll stand up like a man and admit it, period. Only an immature punk of a so called man would post under a different name in an attempt to hide the shame of being wrong. When Woodson wasn’t doing what I felt he was capable of doing, I gave him hell. But when he stepped up to the plate, I gave him his due. Anyone that would criticize and disparage Marvin unmercifully for not playing up to his potential, then refuse to offer an acknowledgement when he does is a hypocrite and a disgraceful gutless idiot.

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:32 am

We lead Sportscenter tonight fellas! Wow! Orlando and Boston played on ESPN and we lead Sportscenter! Now that my friends is progress!

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:36 am

We got a lot in common HFinNola! I will let you know when we head that way! Dated a few from down there myself. From the Atl. Ok enough already, someones going to say we need to email(lol)!

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
1:37 am

KEN you sound disturb! Do you need a timeout?!

J.J.M.

November 21st, 2009
1:38 am

smh joe johnson didnt celebrate with the team

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 21st, 2009
1:51 am

Aiight Hawksta – That was good read nonetheless. whoever came up with does calculations did some serious homework. Let’s hope J Smoove keeps it up then.
JJM, Joe Johnson didn’t celebrate – what’s up with that???

Grandad

November 21st, 2009
2:19 am

doc – As I said, I wasn’t necessarily responding to your post. You had mentioned “confidence” in your 11:30 PM post and I was unclear to the referrence. I was really referring bigdave from 10:22 PM. I was only
clarifying my remarks. Sorry, it did not pertain to what you were saying @ 11:30. It’s way to late for a man my age to be awake anyway.

doc

November 21st, 2009
2:28 am

gd cool, yup late for old men. heh heh

NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ

November 21st, 2009
6:44 am

MINS FGM/A 3M-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOTAL
J.Johnson G 45:20 6-18 0-2 7-8 3-3 6 9 PTS 19
REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE..REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE ALL START ASKING ABOUT WHY JJ IS IN A SLUMP..ITS THE LEGS PEOPLE..JOE PROBABLY DIDN’T CELEBRATE BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED..WE’RE GONNA BE IN NEW ORLEANS TONITE..AND HAWKS PLAYERS WERE CELEBRATING TONITE,AND CLUBBING..JOE WENT HOME TO REST..
NOW,WE’LL SEE HOW J-SMOOVE AND COMPANY PLAY TONITE IN N.O…

IF JOE PLAYS SLUGGISH TONITE,AND IT SHOWS HIS LEGS ARE NOT IN THE GAME,LOOK AT THE BOX SCORE FOR FRIDAYS GAME ABOVE AND THE MINUTES THAT HE PLAYED..
WHY DID WE NEED JOE IN THE GAME FOR SO LONG WHEN YOU HAVE CRAWFORD AND A HOT MARVIN PICKING UP THE OFFENSIVE SLACK??

AND,WHAT ARE WE GONNA SAY IF WE LOSE TO A CHRIS PAUL LESS HORNETS TEAM?
WE’RE BETTER THAN THEM AND THIS IS A ROAD GAME..AND,WHY AREN’T OUR BIGS IN MORE..MORE THAN JUST 3 MINUTES A GAME IF ANY..AND DEF MORE THAN “DNP”..

I LOVE THE HAWKS..I HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR THIS TEAM..BUT,UNTIL WE GET SOME REAL SMART COACHING FROM OUR HC AND HIS STAFF,THIS TEAM WILL BE PREDICTABLE AND YOU LOVERS TONITE,WILL BE HATERS TOMORROW..

roan st

November 21st, 2009
7:41 am

I would like to get excited about marvin after the game he had last night. However, I know that he will just go back to sleepwalking thru the next ten or so games before we see this type of play again. Seriously, why don’t we see this type of play from him more often? Does he suffer from a.d.d? The way he had played prior to last night suggest that he is not even worth the contract they gave him this offseason.

Nate ArchiBALL

November 21st, 2009
8:57 am

And the Number One play on ESPN’s Top Ten……..(drum roll please) – Josh Smith’s dunk for the win !!!

RLP

November 21st, 2009
9:39 am

I’ve got no problem with JJ’s minutes in a game we only won with 7/1ths of a second left on the clock. We won the game. After tonight’s game we will not play again until next Thursday. Did you check out how many minutes JJ played in Wednesday night’s game. Some people cannot be satisfied with enjoying one of the hottest streaks in the team’s history.

When Marvin is the low scorer among the starting five and you have the second best scoring average for sixth men in the league it just seems wrong to be complaining about Marvin on a night when he scores 29 points.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
9:45 am

I’ve seen Indiana use a last second strategy so many times with Reggie Miller. 2 seconds on the clock, Indiana’s ball 3 defenders rush Miller the other two cover the second option, Miller fires, soft touch, ball coming off the front of the rim, put back by Davis, time expires, Pacers win, who’s got next?

Doc
November 20th, 2009
11:30 pm

I agree, so many miss the thrill of accomplishment because they never accept responsibility. I guess it’s a learned trait. I think non athletes miss the mental toughness necessary to compete. For arm chair athletes, they only see the physical specimen and never connect with the mental assertiveness that comes with imposing your will on another athlete or team. It’s a hardness that can get dirty if you need to go there. I like that about this team. Their mental hardness is there and developing. JJ called it out a week ago, that’s a definite edge and tool the Hawks are using. They gained a great deal from the Laker lost. They connected with the toughness that the world championship teams have. That’s why Ron Artest is such a good fit for the Lakers. Magic’s teams had it and so did Bird’s teams. As a matter of fact, I don’t know any “soft” champions in the NBA.
My point is that you can’t get to that level of mental strength if you live in denial or blame others for what is really your responsibility. Man up!

Samuel, there’s a saying in baseball when a player strikes out or makes a bad out swing offensively he goes to the batter in the on deck circle and says “pick me up”.
You pick this site up Samuel, Good posts as always.

WAD UP RAY?

Good post Hawksta, It’s all about the Hawks! And the ATL ,good call on the time out.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
9:50 am

RLP Excellent point. Lets just enjoy the season, Let the pros do what they are paid to do. Let be thankful our players are healthy, winning , and getter better and better, What more can you really ask for? There will be times when JJ play big minutes and times when he can rest. Hes the man and captain of the team, In a close game, we want our best on the floor. Dont count minutes in this game, count the win. Count minutes at the end of the season.

Good point.

O'Brien

November 21st, 2009
10:11 am

The first points of the game were scored by Josh Smith, on a dunk. The last points of the game were scored by Josh Smith, on a dunk.

I give Marvin props for his game last night. Unfortunately, thats what makes it so frustrating. You know the potential is there for these kind of games from Marvin, but for some reason, you only see it once every 10-15 games.

If he can give us these kind of games more consistently, the Hawks will be hard to beat. Because if you have JJ, Crawford, Bibby and Marvin knocking down shots, the other team is in trouble.

Keep it going Marvin. Go Hawks.

Sautee

November 21st, 2009
10:18 am

“Lets just enjoy the season, Let the pros do what they are paid to do. Let be thankful our players are healthy, winning , and getter better and better, What more can you really ask for?”

I agree wholeheartedly. So why are some asking for a center?

Ken Strickland

November 21st, 2009
10:33 am

ROAN ST-I’m surprised at your stance on Marvin. Instead of giving him recognition for having an outstanding gm, or acknowledging that he might finally be out of his OFF slump, you come up with some weakminded excuse about what you think you know he’ll do in the future. Woodson decided to go conservative and freeze the ball down the stretch and put the ball in JJ’s hands, who shot 33% and had 3 critical TO’s while pounding the ball trying to beat double teams. Now, this isn’t new for JJ, yet no one holds back their acknowledgement of JJ’s performances because they know there’s a strong likelihood of him doing it again.

How many teams #5 starter averages 10.5PPG and 4.8RPG while in a slump, and has the ability to carry his team on his shoulders and put up 29pts on 13-19 shooting(3-5 3pt), 9rebs(5 OFF) when the team needs it most? Without Marvins performance last night, this gm would have likely ended up being a repeat of the Charlotte gm.

Don’t put yourself in the same category with BLIND HATERS like ROD FROM CP. When you criticize a player because you feel he’s not performing up his expected potential, yet refuse to acknowledge him when he does, it shows your issues aren’t with the players performance, or lack thereof, but with the player, which is personal. PLEASE, WHATEVER YOU DO ROAN, DON’T PUT YOURSELF IN THE SAME CATEGORY WITH ROD. This is a guy that wants HIS WOODY EXTENDED. Does that mean if he can’t see Woodson’s bald head roaming the sidelines after this season he’ll suffer some sort of ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
10:36 am

Just for the record, if I have you classified in my book, as a whining b!tch who is trying to bait me into a negative non meritorious argument. I will invoke my “Big Ray” rule which says that if you already know what the end of the conversation with a person is about whining and negativism don’t waste your time and energy in exchanging with that person or persons.

So if you address me and I don’t respond, please reference the Big Ray Rule. Please feel free to bless someone else with your warmth.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
11:10 am

THIS LINK IS TOO GOOD TO PASS UP….COURTESY JERRY WEST.

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-story-of-the-2009-10-season-might-just-be-happening-in-atlanta/

J-MAN

November 21st, 2009
11:25 am

This just shows the depth of this team where JJ and Josh Smith can have off nights but a M. Williams and J. Crawford can up their games and we can win. Horford is our constant where he gives us 10 points and 10 Rebounds with 2 blocks and total hustle every game no matter what. This team is an East contender and I can see a scenerio where we can win it. Boston is old and Sheed can melt down. Shaq is old and can break down anytime, even though they won V. Carter gets hurt and tends to no-show big Games. Ask the 2001 raptors game 7 against the 76’s about that. So the “Big made changes that could interfere with their chemistry, where the Hawks kept the team together and adding a bench player in Crawford.

Blast

November 21st, 2009
11:40 am

Hawks are for real, folks. Believe that. They just find ways to win, despite the refs doing their best to cost us the game. I think yesterday’s game was the toughest win so far this season. Houston gave Hawks all they could handle, but Hawks still got the win thanks to Josh, Marvin and Jamal. That is the mark of a good, deep and talented team with the will not to lose. I am loving it!

Go Hawks, Go!

doc

November 21st, 2009
11:44 am

truth, agree, i’ve been watching the toughness grow on this team for the last few years. at times they had it on defense, now their toughness even occurs on the offensive end. all is good in hawk land right now. undestand your point all folks need to get there but different paths to it. holographic universe with many viewpoints, all as “truths”. keeps it fun, real and from being boring.

ILL-logical

November 21st, 2009
11:46 am

” So why are some asking for a center?”

Because there is this thing called the playoffs where the premium is on interior defense and half court offense and those teams that perform better in those areas consistently, win. Last night’s game was an illustration, when push came to shove, the Rockets beat the Hawks to death. and the reason(a reason) that the Hawk’s front line was in foul trouble was the switching defense often placed them in mis-matches that resulted in them having to foul players at the rim.

There is a school of thought that if the Hawks had a center who could bang with the big boys, block shots and run the floor the team would be better.Al could do some damage at both the 4 and 5 and Josh could do some damage at the 4 and 3. Just some strategic albeit wistful thinking on some folk’s part.

cincyatlfan

November 21st, 2009
12:17 pm

Joe should be really fresh after his 45 minutes last night! You the man woody?

J.J.M.

November 21st, 2009
12:37 pm

lol hawks started the game with a dunk and ended the game with a dunk

A Thinking Fan

November 21st, 2009
12:55 pm

JJ worn out at the end of the game. Poor HC’ing Game Management…

Good Win! Poor coaching as usually!

drmaryb

November 21st, 2009
1:14 pm

Hello to all the ICONIC – BLOGGERS on here!

You know who you are & dr.maryb has been sitting back and watching like the white-elephant in the room on here! If I may jump in here and try to restore some order I will do just that – I don’t know who these “new-kids” on the block are on here? But “Boy-Bands” went out when Em-Inem started wrapping with “Dr. Dre”

To the real-bloggers? Get Your Scroll-On! When you see a Fool – Leave a Fool…keep scrollin’

My Grandmother told me a long-time ago:
“When LIFE throws you a STONE? You’ve got two options: Pick them up and throw them back – or collect them and build you a Castle!”

Now back to the real topic – “How – Bout Them Hawks?” Man what a great team and coaching staff & GM we have here in the dirty-dirty “A”. Us long-time fans and real supporters sure do deserve a winning team in this here city! Welcome to the “A” The home of the No.1 Basketball Team in the NBA!
& remember : Kenny S., Doc, Rich Brave, Big-Ray & Nem” Keep Scrollin…. LMAO!

doc

November 21st, 2009
1:29 pm

wassup babe! missin you, still cracking em?

drmaryb

November 21st, 2009
1:36 pm

Hey, where is Sekou? We need a Blog-Master to run this show! Why not the original – Big-Ray?

kwooden1

November 21st, 2009
1:38 pm

Another HUGH WIN! I missed everything but the highlights. Houston was as tough as advertised, but it looks like the guys just didn’t give up. Marvin did his thing and Crawford got his man also. HAWKS got beat up on the boards, but looking at the numbers they held their own overall.

Hornets:
Tonight the HAWKS are going to have to bring their lunch pals again! The Hornets are going to get physical and their guards are going to attack the paint. Collison or Brown will cause problems for Bibby again. Marvin’s going to have to stay with Stojakovic because he’s got his stroke back. West has always been an odd match-up for Josh Smith, so he’s going to have to work hard. The Hornets bench actually matches up pretty well with our bench accept for Zaza. Crawford can still go off at any time, but I would like to see Zaza come in and dominate the paint. Smith needs come in also and go to work. I think if those guys can take over down low, we have a good chance to pull this game out. If we don’t rebound and score in the paint, this could be a long night that ends with a loss!

GO HAWKS!!!!

doc

November 21st, 2009
1:47 pm

dmb, sekou is gone big time babe. you really got lost out there. been gone a good two weeks at nba.com.

drmaryb

November 21st, 2009
1:52 pm

aaaw! Man..but Congrats! to SEKOU & sad for US! Sekou was the Glue!

drmaryb

November 21st, 2009
1:53 pm

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terrell barron

November 21st, 2009
1:57 pm

Sam from da swats said “#2 picks should be great players.” Hell, the #1 pick that year is’nt even a great player. Cut Marvin some slack. Remember, he’s the youngest of the group.

ant banks

November 21st, 2009
2:07 pm

there are a lot of queer baits on this site. everyone wanted to get rid of josh, marvin, and woody. now the hawks are 11-2 in large part due to these guys now y’all ridin’ high talkin’ bout go hawks.

where is all the fire woody chants now? where is all of the trade marvin for scraps, trade josh for kaman?

probably some of the same folks who say that the hawks will finish fourth or worse on the poll on the hawks section of the ajc.

i hate some of y’all

ant banks

November 21st, 2009
2:11 pm

i you go back thru my blogs i have always stated that i didn’t like some of the things that woody does or i would have done it better, but i never advocated for firin’ the guy who has improved 13, 26, 30, 37, 45, and now 11-2 every effin’ year. there needs to be some apologies on this site by some of y’all.

terrell barron

November 21st, 2009
2:14 pm

Ant Banks, what are you doing, trying to make yourself feel better? Fans complain when things are bad, they cheer when things are good. What’s new?

ant banks

November 21st, 2009
2:16 pm

i really can see the hawks finishin’ 1 or 2 in the eastern conference. boston is garbage!! 3 starters over 34. cleveland is garbage, they were up by 17 on the wizards and lose by 20. as a matter fact, they will come out of the east!!

ant banks

November 21st, 2009
2:19 pm

TERRELL,

ride or die fans are there when its bad. i had season tix when they were winnin’ 13 games thru 47 wins last year. i am respected on my job, because folks know that i was down with them back when they sucked. now i am gettin’ pats on the back becuase they know i am die hard.

Grandad

November 21st, 2009
2:48 pm

Truth Serum: (11/21/09 @ 10:36) To whom were you referring?

Sautee: I’m one who wants a defensive minded 5, not that Big Al is not
more yhan adequate. As a matter of fact he may very well be my
favorite Hawk. I just think we need a bigger [longer-actually]
defensive presence ['off the bench'] to guard the rim.
ILL-logical-makes some very good points about the play-offs.

terrell barron – Personally, I think Marv is better than the #1 that
yr. I’m certainly glad Mil. took the big Aussie
otherwise we would have taken him. The ripple effect
could have been disasterous.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
2:50 pm

Doc, I couldnt agree more. I actually wrote a blog that said pretty much the same thing. It really doesnt matter what path leads you there as long as you get there.

Ant Banks, I dont always agree with you but Im compelled to fist bump your lasted blogs. I see a lot of the josh/woody/jj haters distancing themselves from their former positions. The fastest and most respected way to do that Is to say, hey, I was wrong, my predictions were false, looks like Woodson and the hawks do know what they are doing and i must not know what I thought I knew.
my bad. Go Hawks.

GO HAWKS.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
2:57 pm

THANKS ILL-LOGICAL, FOR SAYING WHAT A LOT OF US ARE THINKING!

terrell barron

November 21st, 2009
3:26 pm

Ant Banks, criticism does not make you more or less of a fan. Come on man. WE ALL WANT THE HAKWS TO WIN! Isnt that all that matters? And btw, didn’t you used to cream Billy Knight?

KevinA

November 21st, 2009
3:29 pm

7-3 over the next 10 games. For a total of 15-5
Portland – W –
Miami – W
Houston – W
@New Orleans – W
Orlando – L
@Philadelphia – W
@Detroit – L
Toronto – W
NY Knicks – W
@Dallas – L
6 players will be in double figures in points. Marvin!! I need you.

I put my money where my mouth was in thinking Marvin would come back.

Wish I could take that Detroit loss back though. If we beat Orlando and Dallas I will cry happy tears I lost the contest.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
3:32 pm

KevinA, I thought you told me that was a back to back in Detroit and the odds were we couldnt win. Are we sharing the same hope on that one?

KevinA

November 21st, 2009
3:42 pm

Orlando 26th
Philly 27th
Detroit 29th

Philly and Detroit on the road. Thought they would be wore down and at the time of contest start – Detroit was looking better.

KevinA

November 21st, 2009
4:00 pm

I hope in tonights NO game we restablish our post game. Last game against NO Al and Josh were 15-20. Another night like that would pump up our big’s for Mr Howard who comes next.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
4:18 pm

KevinA, I think most people expect us to have a good season. It seems we are now playing for the off season. Assuming we get there healthy, and make it to the semi’s and finals, the game will break down to half court. The key will be how we represent ourselves in the post. Can we create our own shots and finish on offense and on D can we protect the post real-estate and control the block. Many think we can be forced of the block and out of position. Position is everything in defending the post. Can Horford MAN the post after 82 games and a playoff run? Id like to have another center for the purpose of holding fort. I like ill logical’s thinking on this point.

The Truth

November 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

I’M BACK!! It is such a refreshing feeling on this blog now that that the haters are temporally suspended. With no Marvin bashing going-on, it feels strange around here. Kudos to the Hawks; this was another character building win. I like the way Crawford framed the victory:

“Tonight that was a scrappy, scrappy team and they played very physical and we still came out with the win, so I think we can take the best of what people have to offer.”

Is it just me or has anyone else notice how bias the officiating has been against the Hawks? It’s not just isolated cases, it’s a consistent pattern. It makes the win even sweeter when we prevail anyway. With our tough schedule along with Miami-Heat soft schedule for a 5th seeded team, it is clear that the NBA did not want us to have a top seed this year. However, the way we are playing (as of late) their plans might backfire.

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
4:40 pm

Truth is kind of hard to argue with winning. I dont know how long the haters will recess and regroup, but yea, its nice. I guess when we hit a 2 game losing streak they will rise from the dead. Good link by the way.

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
4:45 pm

“The Truth” you must admit as long as espn keeps giving us props i.e. talking about how fun we are to watch, we are going to be marketble and the refs are going to come around. Remember San Antonio was good before they won a title but they weren’t marketble. They won several titles and remained boring. At least the media seems happy to talk about us which pyschologically is a plus when it comes to officiating. I knew when I saw Dick Biveta(sp?) they were going to hate on us. We past the test and lead on ESPN inspite of the much anticipated contest between the Celts and Magic!

I MUS WRITE

November 21st, 2009
4:49 pm

Mychaelfromatl- I see you took my advice LOL, beautiful women everywhere right -I will definitely be in the house Thanxgiving night.

I gotta give it to Marvin just when i start getting down on him he delivers,I hope he continues to be productive and play with urgency. Consistency is what i need from that yungn. Really tho if we can squeeze about 14/6 out of the guy to go along with Josh and Al we’re headed for big things. Keep puttn in work Marvin

I hope we dont have a drop off in effort(ala Bobcats Game)tonight, Joe Smith,Mo,Teague should see increased minutes tonight. What really impresses me is how we are winning,Even on bad shooting nights we are finding ways to win games ….The mark of a maturing team….I feel like a proud papa taking my kid to school on the first day. Im just relishing in the moment, 13-69 really wasnt that long ago. Paper Bag Boiz

Grandad- Teague will be okay – He just needs to develope that jumper, for sum reason when he shoots i feel the same way i did when Acie shot or when Josh bombed away from behind the arc last year ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

Teague may be quick/super fast but I would take a leader/big shot maker (bibby) as our starter over that speed any day. He has time to develope. Ty Lawson is a big time player -everytime i see him he plays well -looks like a seasoned veteran already. I wonder -if Denver did’nt take Lawson at 18 would he be a Hawk? I think he would have fit right in here and Bibby’s minutes would have been split right down the middle.

Woody deserves credit for our record right now but our sucess has mostly due to:

1.Josh/Al developement
2.Youth and Athleticism
3.Jamal I break ankles Crawford
4.Better overall bench

Just say’n -we still dont run may plays and the offense looks crappy sumtimz, but hey im not gonna focus on that -Just glad we are winning-Like sum one said the other day-I can now hold my head high and get into the Barber shop debates- Mr jones i cant wait til wednesday so i can talk shyt-LOL the man hates the Hawks, but thinks Cleveland and Shaq the chemistrykiller will win a title this year LMAO

I believe Sund deserves just as much credit as Woody— Crawford for LAW and Snail Claxton, that was a great move

The Hawksta

November 21st, 2009
4:52 pm

Truth-Serum I can’t say I wasn’t one of the Woody haters in pass blogs this year and last year. You must admit it’s tough seeing the same ole b.s. on the court. For example: last year Josh shooting threes and JJ pounding the ball. Hell I even complain about Marvin, yet he’s always been a favorite of mind. I must believe that if Josh can stop shooting threes JJ will realized he dosn’t have to pound the ball. All he has to do is make quicker decisions. Even the major media has notice we don’t cut to the basket during iso JOE!

KevinA

November 21st, 2009
4:54 pm

Truth-Serum

November 21st, 2009
4:18 pm
KevinA, I think most people expect us to have a good season. It seems we are now playing for the off season. Assuming we get there healthy, and make it to the semi’s and finals, the game will break down to half court. The key will be how we represent ourselves in the post. Can we create our own shots and finish on offense and on D can we protect the post real-estate and control the block. Many think we can be forced of the block and out of position. Position is everything in defending the post. Can Horford MAN the post after 82 games and a playoff run? Id like to have another center for the purpose of holding fort. I like ill logical’s thinking on this point.

We do have two big bodies in Rando Mo and Collins that may get more burn as we play against weaker teams.

I would still like to see ZaZa, Al and Josh play together.

You never know maybe around the trade deadline the owners will give the ok to go into the cap and get a big center from a team that is rebuilding and out of the race.

If we have the year you talk about maybe next year FA bigs will be willing to come here for less money if they think they have a chance to play for the ring.

I MUS WRITE

November 21st, 2009
5:14 pm

For everybody complaining about jj’s minutes………..Stop
We needed the whole 45 minutes along with Marvins conteribution to win last night. Im all for resting guy but not at the expense of WINS.
” Thats why you Play the game Hello” Houston is a scrappy team -I like the way they fight and out hustle the opponent for wins. Itz amazing how chuck hayes is playing for that team- 6′6 center bangn with the big boiz every night….. I guess we can stop with the Al is to small stuff huh? Mo is due for a big game tonight- If the starters come out sluggish the bench will be big-hell they are well rested so why not…

Jeezuz…… A DRMARYB sighting, Well Well Well if it isnt Ms. Chettah Thongs – Richbrave and Doc are sum where sweating profusely LMAO

Grandad

November 21st, 2009
6:07 pm

I MUS WRITE: We’re winning and I’m not complaining. My toughts on Teager
are that he is on a dangerous precipice. We may shortly be
looking @ next yr. for him. Remember he had no summer
league to transition himself [confidence wise] into the
NBA. Bibs is fine and I have never had a problem wi. him,
especially on off. He has become more of a 2 than a true
pt. guard. J.T. was a very good perimeter shooter in
in col. He has a small flaw in his shot but confidence is
a bigger problem as I see it. It may even go back to the
last pre-season game and since then he has not had a
chance to shoot/play himself out of it. That last
pre-season may have shaken Woody’s confidence in him.
Now that we are winning, Woody, as we all are, is
unacustomed to the national exposure and does not want
to tamper with success. I also understand Woody’s
perspective, as he’s on the last yr. of his cont. and
feels the pressure that comes with it. Phil Jack. or
Pop being comfortable in the limelight most likely would
not worry about such. Just some randem thoughts.
Go Hawks / Go Dawgs.

Grandad

November 21st, 2009
6:33 pm

Tough Sybil: Man up as you say. To whom are you directing your
statement? You speak of God and then call someone
a rude name. I have not gone anywhere, not called for
anyone to be traded; yet I have referred to you by
using, in my opinion either comical or brutally honest,
[allbeit] civil language. I have not reverted to
profanity. Obviously you are most sensitive in these
matters or maybe I’m talking to a dif. person, so I
promise to be less hurtful: Therefore, I will not ask
that you be traded or fired.(Unless Wash.offers us J.Mc.)
If they offer young Mr. McGee then trade me !

The Truth

November 21st, 2009
6:40 pm

The Hawksta

Yeah, I on hope those refs do come around; sooner rather than later. With our upcoming December schedule, we are going to need at least a level playing field. I mean, clearly, they do not want us to have a Merry Christmas:

Sat 19 @ Chicago
Tue 22 @ Minnesota
Wed 23 @ Denver
Sat 26 @ Indiana
Tue 29 vs. Cleveland
Wed 30 @ Cleveland

We can’t sleep on Chicago on their court as they are a scrappy bunch that plays hard like Houston. Denver and Indiana will look for revenge on their court as well. We may be the only team in the NBA that plays Cleveland in back-to-back games. If the Hawks are not sharp playing 5 road games over the holiday, it could be a humbling experience.

Ken Strickland

November 21st, 2009
6:50 pm

TRUTH SERUM-that was an informative article, thanks. It reveals that RSund and I were thinking along the same lines this off season. He said as much when he made the folowing statement, “YEAH, I LIKE OUR CLUB. THE ONLY REASON I SAY THIS IS THERE IS GROWTH FROM WITHIN”. Can you say ORGANIC GROWTH?

ILL-LOGICAL-there’s nothing wrong with your thinking, but having a dominant center that can bang with the big boys doesn’t always work and isn’t necessary to win a NBA title. Last yr, the Phoenix Suns had that same idea about needing a dominant center who could bang with the big boys in the playoffs, allowing them to have AStaudemire do some damage at the 4 and 5. Well, they got Shaq, the biggest banger of them all, moved Amare to the 4, and quickly failed to even make the playoffs for the 1st time since the 03-04 season.

If fact, the Hawks once had that same idea. They signed a dominant center named Moses Malone to bang with the big boys in the playoffs. I guess we all remember how that turned out. I’m certain you wouldn’t call BWallace, BLambeer, NMohammad, WPerdue, BCartwright or even WBynum dominant centers. Yet, the Pistons, Bulls, Spurs and Lakers still managed to win NBA titles with them. We didn’t get swept by the Cavaliers last yr because they had a dominant center, and the Lakers didn’t defeat the Magic because WBynum was more dominant than DHoward.

MannyT

November 21st, 2009
7:01 pm

new blog up

NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ

November 22nd, 2009
4:17 am

godsmorning people..
ok,we lost last nite in new orleans..and,joe didn’t have it all tonite and with bibbs out,we had a make do pg situation..if,teague is gonna be the backup,then he should have been getting more minutes in earlier games and playing both da 1st and 2nd half of games..

thats my problem with woodson..the development of our young players..and,i hope u did what i did and look at the minutes averaged out of the young guys of da hornets since game 1..

unlike our young guys,they do get minutes,and byron scott was developing his young guys and his bench before he got tanked,and now u see with playing time (and not being thrown into da fire like our guys) just how valuable getting these guys in early and often in the beginning of the season pays off during the long haul..

42 minutes for joe tonite..5:25 for teague..zero minutes for collins,and morris and othello again was inactive..

why did we get two 7 footers and they are constantly on da bench?? neither to come in, giving us an advantage by having horford and smith at the forward spots and a true center in da middle to give us a “BIG” lineup!! Why not??
Before u ask me, why??

i got a very serious question to ask you guys..what are we gonna do,god forbid,if crawford goes down?? we’re gonna be stuck with the same situation as we have the past few years..with the exception of us having flip murray,we will have no type of scoring off of the bench..if bibby is out for a while,we all know that crawford is gonna start..but,if we had been playing teague more and getting his feet wet,then we still could have crawford come off of the bench..

now u all see why i said that even if we did draft chris paul that he would not be the player he is today..he would be rotting on the bench with woody as his head coach..right now im panicking,because we have a situation that is coming up and we’re not even preparing for any situation to come at this team at all..no contigency plans what so ever..this power ranking at #1 will be a thing of the past in a week..watch and see..the powers that be will have us at number10-15 after we lose a couple on the road and at home..enjoy it now people!!

if you all are satisfied with mediocre basketball,then we deserve what we get and we deserve the early exits in the playoffs of this team..im not satisfied..i want our team to have the advantage everynite they step on the court!!

Truth-Serum

November 22nd, 2009
9:44 am

KevinA

November 21st, 2009
4:54 pm

You are right as far as getting Josh, Al, Zaza on the at the same time, that would be an interesting experiment. Two power forward and a center.

We looked weak in the paint last night. We controlled nothing under the basket.

“We do have two big bodies in Rando Mo and Collins that may get more burn as we play against weaker teams.”

I would have loved to see them get major minutes last night. It was clear from the third quarter that we were not going to compete. Id like to see Mo, and Collins split 15 minutes a game, regardless of who we play. If we pay em lets play em. At the rate its going now they wont be ready for the playoffs. Lets get them some burns…

The Hawksta, I feel you. Its funny how you can tell a young man what to do, yet he always seem to do what he wants to do any way. Josh? straight from high school. Marvin? 1 year of college then straight to the pros. If you have raised children then you certainly have learned patience. Some times you have to repeat the same things over and over and thy still don’t get the message. The stand off between Josh and Woodson was a classic dad/son confrontation and Woodson hit it for a home run. In part that’s why Josh is better today. Every person has strengths and weaknesses. One of woodson’s strengths is player relationships. The players respect him. Hes earned it.

NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ

November 22nd, 2009
12:55 pm

i guess u didn’t see the nba tv broadcast of the hawks pre-season practice did u??
josh got played on a nice finger roll by a free agent who didn’t make the team during a scrimmage..
both josh and woodson were miked for the broadcast..
josh didn’t even put up a hand or anything he just let dude drive on him and took it to da hoop..
i along with woodson said at the same time,”smooth”!!
then woody looked at him,and josh shrugged his shoulders like,”what”??

woody:”smooth”!!
josh:(shrugging his shoulders),then he said aloud,”it was a good play,what do u want me to do”??
and then josh turned his back and went on about his business..

spots like that lets me know that he still has that rebellion in him against his coach and that his coach is one who is not confrontational nor is he one who will get in his players face and let them know,”im the coach”!!

it might not mean nothing to a lot of u,but,the small things like that really enlarge the big picture in what is really going on..

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