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Thanks. Good analysis.

KevinA,

“The best stats I can show to support my ideas is the increased assists by Al and Josh. It’s not like they are a dark hole and won’t hit the open man. Lets go big folks. Feed them the rock”

Co-sign that.

Well said. I agree 100%. Woody DID try a variety of things to get the offense going versus POR. The simple fact of the matter was that no one could hit an open shot.

POR’s zone was designed to slow down the game and take away easy shots around the basket. Trying to force it inside against that zone all night was a recipe for disaster. Woody tried to attack it properly and we DID get open shots, but what is Plan B when NO ONE could make an open J? The plan became, “OK JJ, take over” and he did!

Even if CHI would do that deal (they won’t considering how well Deng has been playing), doing a deal like that would make it even more difficult to keep the core group together going forward.

We are already going to be close to the cap next year after we resign JJ (assuming we resign him) and then the following season, we will have to extend Al and figure out what to do with Crawford. According to Hoopshype.com, Marvin’s salary actually DECREASES next year to $6.7M while Deng’s increases to $11.4M. That $4.7M difference is likely to be VERY significant with regard to whether or not this team will pay the luxury tax next year.

Bottom line, if the ASG is willing to exceed the luxury tax, I’d do that deal in a heartbeat but if they aren’t and it would prohibit us from resigning JJ, I wouldn’t do it.

I think we did see Woodson try to go another rout with significant minutes for Teague and Crawford in the first half. Both (particularly Crawford) were cold from the floor as well.

The Portland game is a good example of a fall back type plan. Having Joe be able to step up and take over is his role on this team. Obviously, not being reliant on that night after night is important, and I think you would agree that we haven’t had to do that as much so far this season.

I like your points, I just happen to think that the Hawks are already playing the way that you suggested.

Shot distribution. When JJ was a little off his shot or Bibby was off his shot Jamal came through just fine. What makes this so difficult is Marvin being off to a slow start. Woody can work around one or two of his starters having an off night but the Portland game seemed like a slide into the past, JJ has to get it done or we are done.

On the one hand we can say Woody has adjusted to Marvin, Bibby or Crawford having a tough shooting night. But for some reason he gives JJ the green light all night long. It’s not so much that he shoots, but the way he regresses in ISO type shooting, shutting down the ball movement.

Yes I know he is capable of pulling out wins, like last night. And if all else fails I do not have a problem with that. But in the first half if JJ cannot make a bucket or be efficient, Woody has to make it clear he will go another rout. Shooting a low percentage should have consequences for all.

Josh, Al and ZaZa can be on the floor together. Mix in Joe Smith at any time. Evans can play at the 2 spot for limited minutes. In extremely limited minutes Rando Mo has played great.

I guess the bottom line is for Woody to react to first half poor shooting and take JJ out. It seems like the colder JJ is the more shots he takes. By the way JJ is now our second best player in a small sample set of 11 games. If he and Jamal would just drive and pass when they are cold I would feel better.

At the end of the day I would like to see Josh and Al get as many attempts as Jamal and JJ. Send me your arguments about FG% and efficiency. The best stats I can show to support my ideas is the increased assists by Al and Josh. It’s not like they are a dark hole and won’t hit the open man. Lets go big folks. Feed them the rock.

TRACEMAN-that was an excellent asssessment of Marvin’s shooting woes. It’s amazing how someone can continuously obcess over one player when we’re one of the NBA’s top 5 teams in OFF/DEF rebounding, fastbreak pts, points in the paint, PPG, FG and FT shooting % and wins. How has MWilliams play affected the overall play of the Hawks? Was he the major reason we lost to the Lakers and Bobcats?

ROD-Read this COMMON SENSE approach. You claim Marvin is bad offensively and defensively, clumsy, ineffective and hurts the team. If you really feel that’s true, then how do you explain the decision of HC MWoodson, your self proclaimed COY and primary reason for this teams rise to prominance, to start him, play him more mins and use him during crunch time instead of Evans, like the overtime win against Portland?

(1)Are you saying Woodson doesn’t know what he’s doing and is hurting the team by continuing to start and play Marvin significant MPG, rather than benching or trading him for someone you want?

(2)Or, are you saying you have far more intimate knowledge of Marvin’s, abilities, potential and contributions to the team than Woodson, even though Woodson has been his only NBA coach? Have you ever met Marvin, or even seen him in person, or Woodson for that matter?

(2)Or, are you unwittingly admitting you are likely mistaken in your opinion of MWilliams or MWoodson, or maybe both?

I don’t expect a logical response.