A fresh start

Nightly prediction…

Smoove – 21 pts, 11 reb, 8 assists, 3 blocks, 2 steals, 4 tos
JJ – 19 pts, 7 assists, 4 reb, 2 steals, 31 min
Al – 16 pts, 17 reb, 2 assists, 2 blocks
Bibby – 16 pts, 4-7 3pt, 4 assists
Teague – 17 pts, 4 assists, 19 min
Crawford – 8 pts, 8 assists, 23 min
Williams – 13 pts, 12 reb, 4 assists, 2 trips lol

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Interesting….I dislike the fact that Woody still doesn’t trust his bench and panics when the team isnt winning or close immediately. Then he starts overplaying Joe Johnson and neglecting his role players or young players except Jamal Crawford. Jeff Teague should have earned his minutes against the Lakers with his impressive play in little time. I am not the coach though and I guess we have to accept Woody’s style but c’mon Woody, play Jeff Teague. Rookies learn during the good and the bad.

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As if we hadnt talked about this enough? What does a guy gotta do to earn minutes. Its not some manual where you have to go by the book precisely everytime. Mix it up a little, twik the starting lineup a bit, go with some bigs to keep the other teams bigs off the glass, dont just stick with the same ol’ same ol’ everytime. Too predictable…

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I don’t want to be my lunch money — I want to “bet” it. Jeje!

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I agree we needs someone to bring it competitively each game but I’m not agreeing that Jamal Crawford is that guy. He is a guy who can score when Joe Johnson goes cold (which is often) and allow him (Joe) to be a silent threat or better closer since he will have energy to finish strong. Just have to be on the same page and learn the roles. Penetrate and pass. Mo Evans, Marvin for the corner 3. Joe Smith kick and pop. ZaZa and Horford and Josh layup. We need penetration to give our bigs easy points or shooters open shots. Crawford breaks down the defense and allows that. Less finesse ala Joe Johnson and more ACTION BOOM BOOM POW!!!

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DOES IT MATTER WHO PLAYS AS LONG AS THE TEAM IS WINNING?NOONE IS WORRIED ABOUT WHO IS ON THE FLOOR AS LONG AS WHO IS ON THE FLOOR BRINGS A W A WIN. ANOTHER RACIST ARTICLE AIM AT COACH WOODSON. JUST KEEP WINNING COACH WOODSON DON’T WORRY ABOUT RACIST IDIOTS

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The Hawks are winning!!! I now have something to get excited about 3 nights a week. I used to watch every game anyway, but my day did not include as much anticipation on game nights as I’m feeling this year. GO HAWKS!!!

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from last blog:

doc
November 4th, 2009
7:48 pm

truth:
Portland played well but lost it in the final minutes primarily because of our defense intangibles and unexpected rebound advantage.
Big Ump
Truth: that’s one of the better post this year.
nire:
Big Ump/Truth – Agreed
darrell:
Doc im sorry but woody almost blew the game, why in the world would you bring in bibby with 4min left to guard andre miller and move jamal 2 small forward 2 guard 6′9 travis outlaw, that was dum when the hawks was playing great defense with jamal at point.
nire:
I can’t believe I’m gonna say this…but I agree with darrell

HUH?

truth, it also goes for guys who treat the coach the same way.

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Doc,

First, just because I praise a guy for making a good post doesn’t mean that I agree with every single statement he made in it. Second, I do agree that the Hawks won because of their defensive intangibles and rebounding advantage (although knowing Portland, I wouldn’t call that advantage unexpected). You still fail to recognize what I said many times on the other blog – the Hawks played great defense in the 4th quarter last night. All I criticized was three possessions where they failed to rotate as quickly as they needed to considering how important those possessions were. Those three possessions are the only quibble I have. I have absolutely, positively no idea why you’re trying to make my statement sound like more than that even after I’ve told you it directly. Come on, man.

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We’re 3-1 with a HUGE road win. Shut-up.

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I hate these late starts.
Thing I want to see most tonight: The real Marvin Williams.

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What? The NBA season already started? Call me in April and I might pay alittle attention.

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JeJe

No, the real Marvin Williams is the one we saw last year for a stretch of time. The guy that was putting up 20 a game for a while because he had confidence. I just wish he had confidence when our team was healthy, because when he was doing that, we had a few guys out. Trust me, Marvin is a lot better that what he is doing right now. I guess you weren’t watching last year when he was doing that.

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Samuel are you referring to Kevin Martin scoring fiddy on the Hawks. As long as the Hawks secure the win I could care less about his fiddy. There is no NBA team that should be slept on and hopefully the team knows this and will act accordingly.

Go ATL Hawks get that 2nd road win.

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The Wreck
Don’t make Tech fans look bad.

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niremetal
You were on the Braves blog during the season, right?? Or am I imagining that?

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I think Good Josh shows up tonight. And didnt Horford have a big game against Sacramento last year?

I look for JJ and Crawford to have big games tonight. (I just realized that Crawford is the Hawks second leading scorer at 15.8 pts per game)

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See, the thing is, it’s not just about winning. It’s also about keeping a sound strategy for winning over the duration of a long season into the playoffs. Guys will get tired and injured. If Woodson spreads out the minutes now, bench guys will be prepared to step up when called upon, and it may even prevent overuse injuries to the starters. Woodson has some talent and depth now. It’s his job to manage it properly.

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FIRE WOODY

ROLL TIDE

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Shum on chemdawg tellem. Wit chemdawg on:

See, the thing is, it’s not just about winning. It’s also about keeping a sound strategy for winning over the duration of a long season into the playoffs. Guys will get tired and injured. If Woodson spreads out the minutes now, bench guys will be prepared to step up when called upon, and it may even prevent overuse injuries to the starters. Woodson has some talent and depth now. It’s his job to manage it properly.

AMEN!

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I don’t understand the complaining…the Hawks are 3 and 1, with a chance to get out of the west coast at 2 and 1…not sure what else anyone wants.

We have a good team, everyone. Sit back and enjoy the ride. We all remember how bad things used to be…just try and be happy.

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If JJ plays aggressive defense on K-Mart, and the Hawks play decent basketball, this one’s over before it starts

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JEJE-Allstar and NBA champion KGarnett is averaging 11.3PPG, MBibby 9.5PPG, ABogut 10PPG, JCalderon 10PPG, RArtest 11.3PPG, RJefferson 11.7PPG and TPrince 12.3PPG. These are all players that have either recently signed lucrative contracts or been acquired as starters to improve their teams. WOULD YOU SAY THEY’VE BEEN LIGHTING UP THE SCOREBOARDS OFFENSIVELY? REMEMBER, IT TAKES VERY LITTLE EFFORT TO BE CLUELESS AND EVEN LESS EFFORT TO BE A NARROWMINDED HATER.

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MVP of game last night,Josh, ZaZa close. Last year Flip and ZaZa saved many a game after the starters put us in the hole. Two players had that look in their eye. ZaZa and Josh. They willed us to win. They put everything out on the floor. Best skilled – maybe not – but these boys brought it.

Tonight is bench night and I think they will play great. We will fire off the spark of hard play last night.

Crawford was awesome.

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I am surprised how few people have talked about Zaza’s impressive burst at center last night. He blew Przybilla and Oden out of the water while he was out there, on both ends. Horford’s 11 and 13 was pretty durned good too.

Most teams would be pretty happy with their centers putting up 23 points and 16 boards against one of the league’s deepest frontcourts, no?

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LETS GET IT….!!!

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Pacers finally win a game. Phoenix finally lost one. Houston hanging tough with the world champs. Can Minny actually hand the Celts their first loss?

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down 6 to start

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5 Bone

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*sigh* Josh didn’t even contest that jumper.

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Joe, with a slow start.

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Our guards aren’t making smart decisions with the ball so far…

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Entire Hawks starters with a sluggish start.

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As Big Al’s #1 fan I was very happy to see him hit the boards hard last night. Props to Josh for shutting down Aldridge. Crawford has been a lifesaver this season. I think we’re moving in the right direction. Hold judgement till the offseason for all the Hawk Haters and Woody Haters out there.

Why can’t Steve Smith return to the broadcast team?

Is Jerome working out?

Where is Zaza’s restaraunt?

More later…..Game just started.

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Well I knew Joe was gonna come out flat. Woody played him 46 mins last night. He’s smart ain’t he

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It hasn’t been pretty at all, but we’re tied. I’d say take Bibby out because of the defensive mismatches, but he’s the one making good things happen on offense.

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Conflict of interest, Sekou. Recuse yourself

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I see BIG AL!!!!

Why doesn’t anyone talk with me?!

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Josh almost cracked his skull on the backboard on that dunk!

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Could you guys keep it down? I’m like 20 minutes behind on Tivo!

Talk to me…..someone…..please…..

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Hawks are so much fun to watch. No other team in the NBA is more exiting than Hawks. Most NBA games are really quite boring, but not Hawks games. Win or lose there is always drama. Guess that’s why we are fans, huh?

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Took us a minute to get serious about our opponent tonight.

Does Teague push the tempo, or what?

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Miss Horford, you are new here. Welcome! We love the ladies!!!

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Should’ve been a foul. Jamal got hacked.

I hate a switching defense. Udrih couldn’t dribble past Teague, but the switch puts Zaza on him. Duh!

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Thanks for the welcome party! I haven’t missed a game in like 4 years but I have never tried this!

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Heh. Sekou , you’ll get the swine flu sooner…..lol…

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Teague!

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Wow now that’s a fan! Good post Joe Smith

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So much more movement with our second unit than with our first. Zaza and JoeS setting backscreens, Crawford and Teague swinging it, Mo creating spacing…

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Is Nique still at one “heat check” for the year?

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See I told ya’ll Those 46 mins will catch up with Joe

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Told you to watch out for Tyreke Evans. He just worked Joe two times in a row. Ouch.

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Nice work, Joe.

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Look! Another stadium that is less crowded than ATL!!

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I remember when there was never an empty seat in Arco Arena! Man how things have changed there. Basketball is the only game in town

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GO!!! AL ! You almost killed Nocioni!!!

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Crawford gotta to watch that finger licking crap, man. There is so much communicable illnesses out there, so many guys touching that ball, the ball hitting so many foreign objects, you gonna fall sick touching the ball and liking your fingers.

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Sekou,

Maybe if Woody would have left Teague in the game he wouldnt have to bark as much for the team to run….

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The Kings are staying in this game by attacking the Hawks inside.

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Joe should have fed Al there… he ran straight to the cup give him the ball and let him finish or get fouled…

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Hawks have to bring the defensive effort right now in the second, shut the Kings out of this game.

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Lets go for a second half of the same effort and some defensive stops and this will be a pretty successful road-trip.

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Sekou, where are you going?

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What’s up with Joshua Randolph? I think it’s code for he’s a Josh Smith & Randolf Morris fan. Maybe he’s actually Randolph Morris blogging during the game. That explains the rage against Woody. He should be happy he’s got a front row seat to watch all the games. If you had energy and talent you’d get to play Randolph. Give Woody a break….maybe he’ll tell you to put your popcorn down. Can you tell Collins to slow down on the all you can eat seats. I think that’s why he’s not getting in the games so far this season. Can anyone give a response on Collins? Should I assume my theory is true? What’s Up!

Good effort thus far. Let’s close down the middle on defense and rebound and we can enjoy a blow out by the end of the game. They got nothin outside of Martin’s shot.

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Why did Teague get pulled so quickly? smh. Crawford is putting in work. Good game so far but I don’t like the number of offensive boards we are giving up. This is a very winnable game. Can we please replace Nique. Great player but he is brutal on the mic.

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i feel you Sekou… get to the money… keep progressing…

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Damn Sekou I hope they don’t replace u with some lame guy. Well wishes.

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Dang. NBA.com is steal all our good talent… First Smitty now Sekou. Hope that find a better replace for Sekou than they did for Smitty. And I love Nique the Bball player….

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Trade Nique for James Varrett. Let Randolph Morris do the courtside reporting since he’s already there.

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If it’s Terrence Moore I might have a seizure

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Good luck at NBA.com… keep those tweets coming so we know when you bring that new new up there.

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Can we replace Nique with Mario? Who knows what happened to Mario West?

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Hawks toying with Kings right now. They need to put the clamp on them. Can’t give Kings life!

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Marvin has finally showed up

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I said earlier that I don’t know if we want to get into a track meet with these guys. Yall be carefull what you wish for.

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there just trading baskets now

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Swine Flu is about to cause an epidemic!

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Marvin has turn up his play this half. I guess he doesn’t want to sit on the bench at the end of the game….

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6 turnovers for Joe Johnson, 12 for the team as a whole. Yahoo’s box scores don’t say how many points off turnovers each team has, but I’m guessing the Kings have scored at least 15-20 points off turnovers in this game.

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Nique talking about Shareed Rahim’s career. All he could say was he was a nice player who had a nice career….. Nique, I’m sure you can find better adjectives than that. The English language is rich in synonyms!

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Dammitt! Lakers squezzed out a 1 point lead over Houston!

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This Jason Thompson is a pretty damn good player. Wonder how someone with his skills ends up at some little MAAC school.

Another turnover and another three points off turnovers for the Kings. I’d like to see Woody tear into these guys during the next timeout. They are in serious danger of letting this very winnable game slip out of their grasp if they keep this up.

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Put Teague in and let him penetrate

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Funny, Najeh.

Hawks not playing well right now, though.

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About that Lakers-Rockets game… in an overtime game where the starting center and power forward fouled out for the Rockets, David Andersen still only managed to play five minutes.

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This must be Najeh’s first game if he’s so rattled by the game. Seems we do this every time we should blow them out of the water. I can’t wait for the Bobcats game. How many times have we pissed the game away there? Not a surprise tonight, but we’ll close it out. Just be patient.

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Anyone else notice the connection between zaza and crawford?

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ANOTHER turnover. Take care of the f*cking ball, damn.

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If Josh or Marvin would pay attention to what Z has figured out with Jamal we’d have one heck of a highlight reel.

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That’s gotta be half a dozen times that the switching defense has resulted in Beno breaking down Zaza on the perimeter. That is NOT a matchup you want.

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No more turnovers! Come on, Marvin!

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And yea Teague needs more mins

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Totally forgot about Teague . . . Woody has been giving him the Acie Law treatment. He’s played well enough to earn minutes.

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Woody is doing a horrible job with his rotation. Joe smith and teague should both be playing more

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J Hova take ova…

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Joe nees to give the ball up

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I told ya’ll Teague is gonna get the Acie Law Treatment

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In fairness, the Kings coach really has no choice but to play his young players since they make up more than half his team. That said, Teague definitely should be playing more.

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I took the hawks and the 5 1/2 point spread. We should beating them by at least ten

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Nique said Un-rhythm LOL

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Crawford doesn’t just lick his lips but he flicks his hands across the bottom of his shoes also. Uggghh! Dude gotta watch it, man!

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I would like to see Woody explain Teague development plan.

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Now that was great Ball movement on the offense possession…

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You said it, Melvin. Crisp as I’ve ever seen their passes.

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Rod from College Park,

Um no homie, your assumtion is way off dog, I’m a man bruh and my name is pronounced as “Michael” just spelled different “Son”. Dude if you can’t tell, I’m from Atlanta, hince the “fromatl” part of my blogname. You was called “Son” because infact you come across like one on this blog. On the reference on whether or not I should have used “seen” or “saw”, dude miss me with that bulls**t cause it’s not that serious it’s a BLOG lmao. SMH at you gaining some type of gratification from a grammer error on a BLOG SMDH!!

Also you said and I quote: “You hate on someone when you dislike him or her for no reason or you are jealous of him or her. I have a reason to dislike Marvin’s game, and I damn sure am not jealous of him.” – - – -LMAO and SMH at you basically ethering yourself with your on definition.

You also said: “I would never want to be in a situation or on a team where no one respects me at my job or in my industry” – - – -Um I haven’t received the memo about Marvin not being respected within the Hawks organization or NBA.

“Non-informed bloggers” – - – -OK “Mr. Airmchair Quarterback/GM of the Year”

Question,

With all the critiquing you do “Son”, have you ever bothered to show up at a game or is you just a permanent “blog hater”.

Jay-Z – Blueprint 3 – Track 12. Hater – That song id dedicated to you “Son”.

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Sekou,
much success on your new endeavor!

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It wasn’t pretty but I’ll take the win….

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a couple of pieces have jumped in the shot behind Bob and them…

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To bed for me too yall!! Thanks for havin me! Till next time!

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Where was JT0????

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Sacramento likes to run, and we let them. But once again, we scrapped for rebounds and clamped hard enough on defense in the end to secure the win.

Remember the whole bit about Crawford being a legit #2 scorer? Well there it is. Nice to watch him and Joe torch the Kings for a total of 52 points, and this three guard lineup at the end of games appears to becoming a regular thing.

Smith’s fouls kept him from doing more on the court (specifically on the boards), but he still helped out quite a bit in spots on defense, although if he didn’t have an opportunity to get a block, he more often than not layed off of his opponent, allowing Jason Thompson to score 22 points. The good news was no turnovers.

Marvin showed better aggression on a number of plays than I’m used to seeing. That, and he really fought guys on defense. His play was pretty efficient, especially on the offensive end.

Bibby showed up for this game, and was more aggressive going to the hole than he was since he got here. Fortunately for us, he and JJ also were good about snagging rebounds, or we would have lost that part of the war.

Overall, I’m glad for the win, but we should not let terrible teams play their game. We didn’t take them seriously enough in the beginning, which allowed them to go on runs throughout the game. Of course, we took it from them in the fourth, and that’s good. Against good teams, we won’t have the chance to do so.

4-1, I’ll take it.

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Sekou hate to see that you are leaving. Good luck with NBA.com

Great win but it looks like the plan to get Joe some rest was just talk.. When they interviewed Joe after the game the dude could barely speak because he was grasping for air. Looks like Teague is going to get the Law treatment. He has to learn to trust the young guy and let him play. Woody complained about not having a deep bench for years and now that he has one he has went right back to ignoring them again. Good to see Marvin wake up. Crawford looks like he wants 6th man of the year…And once again I like ray’s idea of just cutting off Nique’s mic. At one point he called Kevin Martin KJ.

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Heh. I guess Nire isn’t the only guy Rod manages to piss off….

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MichellefromATL,

I have season tickets Michelle, and have had them for the past 5 years. No one from Atlanta says SON, so I really have to question who you are. I’m not fortunate enough to have courtside seats, I can only afford the lowly club section. People from Atlanta also don’t jock Jay Z. Enjoy the game Michelle.

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I guess Ive got Ken’s mouth closed. All that talk about him giving my job to Bob Weiss is out! The only time Ken lies is when his lips move.

Shout out to Truth-Serum

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2 WINS IN A ROW

WHO CARES

FIRE WOODY

ROLL TIDE

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With a win Friday, the Hawks will be 20% of the way to their total road wins of last year, with many of the lower level teams still left to face on the road. NY, New Orleans, Philly, Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, and Indiana total seven more wins the Hawks should be able to secure before the end of 2009. If the Hawks can find a way to get out of this calendar year with 10 road wins, they will be in a great position to becoming more legit in the eye sight of the media.

After the new year, the Hawks will have 17-19 winnable games on the road. so even going 66% on those games would give the haws more than 12 more road wins, putting them over .500 on road victories. I think that experience alone will help the Hawks be able to close out their first round opponent in 5-6 games at the most.

Also, I expect Thanksgiving’s date with Orlando to be a playoff type game. The Hawks will have 5 full days to rest before that game. So there should be no excuse not to jump on Orlando (who will have just played Miami the night before on a national televised game the night before–you have to figure Wade is going for 45 that game lol). In the end of November and beginning of December, Orlando has an eleven game stretch where nine of the games are on the road, with 5 of those teams being likely play off teams (Boston, Toronto, Utah, Phoenix, and the Hawks). With Carter playing game on and game off, and Howard struggling with foul trouble this season, the Hawks may truly have a chance to be in place for a battle with the Magic for the division crown.

Saturday, one thing I truly hope to get to see is the battle of Teague and Lawson. These two were easily considered 1/2 in pg rankings in the ACC last season. Lawson has already looked like a 3rd/4th year veteran on his new squad. While Teague is showing that he has a gear that the Hawks haven’t seen since Mookie (pre drugs lol). I hope Woody is brave enough to allow us to watch them battle it out in the 2nd quarter.

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Nunna, as long as this team is in fourth place in the east, Woody isn’t going anywhere during the season. No one in the front office expects the Hawks to be better than the fourth seeded team, and lower than the 5th seeded team. If Woody can keep the team there, his job is secure at least until the off season. Even Sund will have no excuse for firing a coach who is on pace for a 50 win season, player development or not. That and also Woody may be the only hope to getting JJ back, rather we like it or not. I don’t see the front office being willing to let Woody go (while paying him) and pay the $3 mil that is required to get a good playoff tested coach as his replacement. So barring 7th-8th place in the east, Woody is here. So get used to it. Besides with everyone saying how bad Marvin has played, the Hawks are still finding ways to win games. True they lost to LA, but look what Boston did to Philly, who were in the game in the 3rd quarter, just like the Hawks. When championship teams decide to stop playing around and play championship ball, its not much you can do about it.

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Did yall know our starting power forward is the leading the team in assists?

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Yeah, love that 5 minutes of playing time in the Sac game.
Gimme your lunch money.
This is Woodsen at his best, not knowing how to coach rookies. No matter how talented.

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Sekou; thanks for years of great coverage. You help us tremendously during the rough times. I hope your replacement is half as good.

Crawford is a player. He is quick, fast and can penetrate. Come on Woody, don’t nut up and forget about Teague! Bibby 33 minutes, Teague 5, crap!

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JeJe: Marvin DID have a good game…6-9 from the field…look Ken may be engaging in hyperbole with the Granger deal, but his premise is right on…Granger would not be Granger with the Hawks…JJ dominates the ball sooooo much…JC is obviously option 1-2 most of every game…there are very few touches so lots of players do not develop offensive;y. Marvin could easily be a 17 ppg– 7 rpg type player.
Also…Teague is upper echelon in his speed and ability to break defenses down…he is a fearless competitiorand he gets 5 minutes in two games??? Good luck with keeping fresh legs and with not destroying the kids competitive desire and confidence!! Unbelieveable

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Play the damn rookie for god’s sake!

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Hollinger stated best describing this year’s Hawks. What’s different? Crawford is playing Flip’s role and Zaza is the only other rotation player. Unless Woodson uses his bench, this team will have a similar story as last years. Where is Teague, Smith, Mo?

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Sekou, good luck at the new gig. Great blog you had going here. You and your old school hip-hop references will truely be missed.

Go Hawks!

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“Woodson is stubborn, a creature of habit” – LOL big time! Why does the pot always call the kettle Black?! Ken/Grandad/Sybil, (same person), what you view in the mirror is you.Ive never met such a Jack-Ass as you in my life time. You clearly remind me of Balaam in number chapter 22 of the bible.

* hint, it a sacred book Ken.*

Yes ken, the tell all sign of when you are lying is when your mouth opens, then begins the out pouring of sin.

We do agree on one thing. Nice win!

The Real Hawk – I had first dibs on Sekou’s lunch money-LOL. I guess he may loose a few pounds this week. I appreciate the Teague fan club and the young man has performed admirably. However Im in no hurry to give him major minutes. Let wait to bibby slumps or there is an injury. Im sure he will be ready and may, when given a break, take the job from Bibby. Teaque will get his time and chance no doubt. Patience is a virtue. Lets see, JJ,Crawford,Bibby means limited time available. Again I stress patience. At some point he will take Bibby’s Job. Right now, grow and learn from the seasoned pro! Teague is fortunate to have Bibby as a mentor if he would use him. Let Bibby go out in the class and style in which he has played the game. You’ll know when the time is right for the changing of the guard.

showboat – on the money man! Kind of hard to argue with wins,(unless you are Ken and his bubba posse). Woodson is getting it done. Some people want more salt, others want more pepper, Woodson is the chef making the soup. Looks like a blue ribbon recipe to me. Just win baby!! Yeah what kind of fool GM would not sign a Coach who is capable of taking a team that has only a second tier all star and going to the second round of the playoffs is beyond me.

Showboat I also agree about the difficulties of finding minutes on a team this “newly” found depth in players. I like the fact that the competition for playing time is what it is. When Acie had his many chances last year, or the year before, he did not produce. Got to make good on your chances. That said, I like teague so far and Im a fan of his too, hell need lots of patience.

Brad I too think Sekou hits the spot more often than he misses. On the Marvin issue I have to agree with him again. Marv is a player, and a very young man too. Patience, the soup has not boiled yet. It will and then you see, Marv is a player and a team man.

Patience, patience, patience.

Clyde, Clyde, nice point! Yes Josh is an assist and block shot demon! The man is beginning to mature as a player. Sweet. Smoove. That is such a rare combo to have a pf who is an assist and blk shot leader. Did you notice that after the portland game Josh had his arms around JJ and Crawford simultaneously? Team player!! Unifier. Not the same man or player from two years ago. I guess woodson got to him with that fatherly tough love. Josh is a long way from the top of his game, which is scary.

JJ, Crawford,Josh-the real nucleus.

Its it just me or is Zaza, the slowest man in basketball A.K.A the turnover waiting to happen, playing lights out basketball? The man is finishing in the post and defending too. You just go Zaza!! Shout out to you. Im pleasantly surprised that you are finishing the way you are. Keep it up. You may get your starting job back that you lost to a power forward 3 years ago. I guess hes playing harder to keep Collins and Mo on the Bench. Hummm.

What ever it takes.

Just win Baby, Just win.

Hey Ken, this team if very unselfish, hard working and accepts thie limits and the limits of their team mates. They’ve learned to play and stay with in the confines of those limits. Im glad you aren’t the coach with that negative, divisive,pessimistic and selfish spirit of yours. No wonder no one ever let you play or taught you the game of basketball, Mr bobble head!

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KevinA,
I know it’s only 5 games and therefore still a small sample, but have your views on Jamal changed at all since the summer. I remember back then you were on Jamal the way that Rod and now JeJe are are on Marvin. Also many folks here were all on the Flip band wagon. I wonder if any of your views have changed since then. There is no way Flip would bring to the table what JC is doing.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but if JC keeps this up our acquisition of him will be just as big if not bigger than the other acquisitions made this summer. I am really excited about this team which is something I haven’t been able to say in a long time.

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I hope Teague gets some good min in Charlotte. He for damm sure wont get any against Denver. Old stubborn azz is at it again.

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fudd21 I was one who thought it would have been better to keep flip at low buget and go after a center which was more needed. I knew Crawford was a player but I did not expect the chemistry or what a world class back court that gives us if we keep JJ. If flip had the minutes we give Crawford his number would be comparative but no, Id keep Crawford. Not that we would be any less competitive or have a worse record. We still be a good team either way. I am a hawk fan so I accept what has taken place. That said, I do like Crawford and I like flip, both are tenacious. Crawford has played well and is better than flip but not by much,in my opinion.

Good question.

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sad to hear our main man, leader and fonder is going to hit the road. have considered him like a friend i invite to my table over the past four or so years. it will be tough to not see him around or as connected to this rowdy bunch as he was.

as in anything it is best to make sure good wishes are part of the feelings of loss and know it will open things up for the all of us. whoever follows are sure going to have big shoes to fill.

do you best there sekou, make us proud!!

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ILL-logical,

You’re right. Although Crawford is our 6th man, I think he is becoming more of a team leader than JJ is. Crawford talks more out there, and seems more passionate (JJ is just too quiet). And I’m really liking his game (no iso Crawford).

Woody said he wanted Crawford to lead the league in bench scoring, and so far, he’s looking pretty good. Crawford averages 17.8 ppg…off the bench. Wasnt there an ESPN.com sports writer who said Crawford could be the black Ginobli lol

Teague has played 45 minutes in 5 games. Come on Woody. Give the kid some burn.

I am a little concerned about our 3pt %. From behind the 3pt line, JJ is shooting 27%, Crawford shooting 32%, and Bibby 36%. Hopefully we will improve on that (and our defense).

Overall, we’re 4-1, (Congratulations Hawks and Woody), and we should beat Charlotte. Then we have a tough game at home against Denver.

Good Luck with your new gig Sekou

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folks, i guess the title of this blog was an omen of sorts for the blog z, a fresh start.

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Sekou,
you will be missed. Now, hope that the Hawks don’t lay down and have a letdown vs. lesser opponents like we did last year. I still can’t understand how we lost some games to the likes of CHA and NYK, and turn around to beat the Lakers and play CLE down to a Lebron free throw to save the game for them.

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For those who suggested that Allen Iverson would be a good pick up for us and/or that he would do good in Memphis:

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/11/04/iverson.memphis/index.html

This guy only knows how to conjugate verbs with “I”… never with “we”!

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Big Ray, I guess U THA MAN NOW DAWG!!!!!

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Mr. Smith. We definitely will miss you. Congrats on the new spot though. You are going to do great.

We really appreciate everything you’ve done for us over the past years. It’s been fun to come here and read your work. We all wish you continued success.

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Deeznuts, I’m talking about Ole Woodrow, not Ken.

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GEEMACK-you’re buying the sizzle and not the steak. Woodson played 9 players against the Lakers, yet JJ played 46mins, Smoove 34mins, Marvin 30mins, AHorford 36mins, MBibby 35mins and JCrawford 34mins. He used 10 players last night, yet it didn’t prevent him from forcing JJ to play 37mins, Smoove 29mins, Marvin 31mins, AHorford 33mins, MBibby 34mins and JCrawford 34mins. Considering we’ve played only the 4th and 5th gms of the season, don’t you think he’s riding our starters waaay too hard?.

You’d think with the additions of guards Teague and Crawford that JJ and Bibby wouldn’t be forced to match or exceed last yrs mins, especially in only the 4th and 5th gms the season, and that’s the result of coaching scared. Woodson seems to be focused on coaching for a new contract rather than coaching his team for a playoff run.

Coaching scared makes you react for the moment and use up all of your ammo early. Coaching for the playoffs allows you to conserve you ammo and position yourself to weather the assault until help arrives. In this case, that help will be Teague, JSmith and Collins. However, you have to let them know their help is needed by consistently giving them adequate mins, or just playing them period.

It’s like a person with VD who takes a home cure rather than going to go a doctor to get professional help. The home cure succeeds in getting rid of the symptoms, but not the disease, which lurks undetected until something triggers it to return in full force. ISN’T THAT RIGHT DOC?Woodson’s insecurities are always lurking and ready to return in full force, and it looks like were starting to see some of those insecurities already.

After only playing the 1st 5gms of the season, Woodson is coaching and overusing his starters like he would if there were only 5gms left in the season and we were fighting for a playoff berth. That’s inexcusable. Maybe we’re beginning to see from Woodson some of the same issues and insecurities that concerned Sund when he refused to grant him a contract extension. AT ANY RATE, I HOPE WOODSON GETS IT TOGETHER AND COACHES US TO A SOLID SEASON AND A SOLID CHAMPIONSHIP RUN THIS YR.

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Let’s hang a sign “Woody, play the damn bench” for every home game.

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All the best, Sekou. I assume I will still see plenty of you in the gym.

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Great blog Sekou! While I haven’t participated much over the last year+, I have attempted to keep up when time has allowed. I wish you the best at NBA.com. Hopefully you’ll get to write a ton more than you were able to here. I also hope that you weighed in on your replacement.

As for tomorrow and Saturday. I hope we win both. Saturday is going to be a tough test. It would be great to give the second team more burn in order to keep the starters fresh for Saturday’s action. Who knows what Woody will do. Love it that we’re 4-1. Anyone who has watched this team in person, knows that there is a BIG difference on the court in terms of maturity, resilience, and sene of purpose. Hopefully we won’t slip back into last year’s ways.

Go Sekou!

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good luck sekou.. now hook me up with elle duncan..

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To the Atlanta Hawks Organization,

Could you please find new ways to improve the in-game experience for the fans. The game against Washington was dreadful to say the least. Here’s a few of my suggestions:

1)Please cut it out with that bulls**t at halftime (Anybody that was at the Washington game knows exactly what I’m talking about). That routine where you bring out the group of dudes dancing to Beyonce, ripping of their shirts. Please stop that BS, Atlanta already have a bad stigma of being a fruity city as is! Plus, even though I don’t have any, their are kids in the house.

2)I like Ryan Cameron (not sure if that’s how he spell his last name) but can we have a little more energy to hype the crowd; now I’m not saying he’s bad but we just need a little more.

3)The kiss cam is getting old and outdated (athough it’s not terrible), please empliment something new to keep the crowd guessing.

4)This is Atlanta!!! PLAY SOME GOOD HIP-HOP MUSIC INSTEAD OF THAT DANG ORGAN AND TECHNO MUSIC!!! Once, again it’s Atlanta, it is not hard to find music to get the crowd going.

I will be at the game Saturday and I expect improvements lol.

All, please feel free to add on to my list for a greater in-game experience, maybe Sekou can give the organization the memo.

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*Truth Serum: I am not K.S., however, I did create the moniker “Sybil” for the youngster who pretends to be me. I do not know what you, are anyone else’ problems are with Ken, but pay attn. and try to grasp who is speaking when I post. Being new here I’m not privy to your parlor games. Honestly, seriously, I enjoy sound discussion of the game I love, with a good chuickle now and then. My initial posts were greeted by Ken, Sautee and others with what I thought was refreshing, lucid and civil repartee. I was most appreciative. Now I’m certain Sybil will have a field day with this post. He/she (mh) is, both creative and obtuse. I suppose that would make sybil a paradoxical conundrum. I’m sorry TS (lengthy) just wanted to dichotomize your KS/Grndd/Sybl theory.
*JeJe – I concede, Granger is a good player. Indy is not gonna trade him to the Hawks for Marv. They would not nor should they. If I could get JaVale McGee in a trade for Marv then, then YES, I would prefer him than Granger. Actually, I would prefer Troy Murphy (over DG), better shooter(check the stats before you holler), MUCH better rebounder. Would have led Hawks in boards last season.
*Zaza should start…then Big Al could play the 4, where I think he belongs. KS would probably disagree.
*********Teager must PLAY********
*I think Mr. Sund must be thinking, “If J.Collins is not going to play, then why did we spend the money. We could have saved money and developed a young player such as Sims or Siler.”

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mike, i hope by monday you feel like a steamroller hit you. still disgusted we played wake so poorly a few years back and let an acc championship get away from us. still feeling that one and betternot mistake wake for a patsy, too well coached.

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Grandad/ken- yeah Right!

Ken/grandad I do agree that if zaza continues to finish in the post and show himself more athletic he should get his job back that he lost 3 years ago. He is a better representation of a center than horford, whom I like a lot. at power forward.

The experts are pretty close to right on the money, the contributions of an unproven inexperienced,very young rookie registers 0-zero on the + win side. If any thing we may lose a game or to base on his inexperience, the flip vs Crawford exchange favors Crawford by a game or 2 or three games the net effect is the Hawks should be a game or 2 better this year. Gee, Mack, you are right on the money again! Bimm.

Sekou, Ive only heard good things about you, I was very quick to judge you. You have shown me love and Class, you are quite a man. Loves blessing follow you til the end.

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“SEKOU IVE ONLY HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU, I WAS VERY QUICK TO JUDGE YOU”. TRUTH SERUM, THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTIONS.

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Ken

LMBO at the VD reference…that’s to funny. I would be concerned if it didn’t get better. I will say this this is just me…with the way Crawford is playing I will be more concerned with getting him 30 to 35 mpg between the 1 & 2 positions. Reason being there is such a raised level of play when he is on the floor the floor JJ and the other guys.

I got a question for you Ken..what do you think about Crawford in the starting line up and Bibby coming off the bench with JT-0? I know its a small line up but the negative impact should be small against most teams second unit. Let me know your thoughts.

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Sekou,

Nothing but respect, man. Someone may succeed you, but they sure as hell won’t replace you.

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30-35 minutes is good amount of time for your starters and 6th man. Up to 35-38 for your hoss (JJ). I don’t know the league avg, but this team seems to be more effective at those levels. Some nights the frontcourt starters will play more and other nights the backcourt may play more. It’s a long season, everyone will be needed.

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Bibby/Tea. … Tea./Bibby … it doesn’t matter who starts.
(I doubt Mr. Sund made any such promises) Bibby can, will, and should be a great mentor for Jeff. Woody on the other hand needs to realize
he can let Tea. run the pt. wi. both Joe and Jamal on the wings to support him. Also, that would be an incredibly fast line up wi. Josh and Al @ the 4 & 5. I’m concerned that Woody isn’t innovative enough to visualize these combinations. Another thought for Woody…get Tea. in the game early before his hind end tightens up. Same thing…3rd qtr. Last evening when 4th qtr. began, I knew Teager’s night was over.

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By John Hollinger | ESPN.com

“It’s back to the future for the Hawks, who essentially went to a seven-man rotation — much like they did for much of last season — in beating the Blazers on the road 97-91. With no foul trouble — the Hawks had only 15 personals as a team — rookie Jeff Teague took home a DNP, and Joe Smith and Maurice Evans played only six minutes apiece.

The other similarity? A one-sided second quarter for Atlanta behind the two primary reserves. This time it was Jamal Crawford, rather than Flip Murray, teaming up with Zaza Pachulia to do the damage, but second quarters behind that bench duo were a major staple of the Hawks’ 47-win 2008-09 season. So, too, was the short rotation employed by coach Mike Woodson, although last year it was more out of necessity than choice. We’ll be watching to see whether either trend remains in play during the opening weeks of this season.”

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I don’t know whats Woodsons problem is with playing the damn bench. Everybody is gonna be worn out by playoff time again this year. USE THE DAMN BENCH U DAMN IDIOT.

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Ken Strickland I mis jugded the quality of Sekou’s character.I assumed that because he associate with the likes of you he must be a Bubba head as well. I was very wrong about Sekou. I wanted him to hear that from me before he left. Im man enough to admit it. Not so with your toliet of a brain. Ive witness your sewage for about two years. Whine all you want, Complain and B!tch as you do.
Woodson is a man, who has my respect, hes earned, Sekou is a man who has earned my respect.

You have proven to me to be malicious and willfully ignorant. You are more like a B!tch, to me. As a Matter of fact thats all you do is B!tch. look at all your blogs just on this page for example. B!tch is B!tching. It gets old to a true hawk fan.Stop B!tching, let us enjoy the season. All you do everyday is B!tch about Woodson and your cancer spreads to the rest of the lonely negative haters. B!tch Ken. Thats what Ive heard from you on Schultz, Bradley and here for 2 years. No Ive got you right. You are a B!tch. Now Start B!tching!

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MY NAME IS LEGION.

FOR WE ARE MANY.

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TRUTH SERUM-If it makes you feel better about who and what you are,feel free to call me names as much as you want. But remember, it won’t change the fact you’re an overly emotional, immature, multidimensional moron that craves attention at any cost.

There’s an old saying that goes, THERE’S STRENGTH IN NUMBERS. Well, while that may prove correct physically, you and your many alter egos have proven it doesn’t hold true mentally, intellectually or psychologically. I WISH ALL OF YOU MORONS WELL.

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Truth Serum who made you Coach Woodson’s bodyguard/defender. When Mike Woodson brings a championship to the ATL he will have earned my respect. Okay over the summer the Hawks made moves that made the team much deeper than last season. What’s wrong with demanding to see this depth on a consistent basis?

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So, Truth Serum is Sybil? Well I’ll be darned. Why is it, he only chooses one or two, to berate about criticizing Woody? It seems most on this board are fed up with him [Woody].

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GEEMACK-we don’t have to change our starting linup, especially not now. Woodson simply has to play Teague more, JJ and Bibby less. With what Teague has shown so far, there’s no way we’d suffer in anyway by giving Bibby a 10-12MPG reduction and JJ a 6-8MPG reduction and increasing Teague’s mins by 10-12MPG. Consider this:

MINS PTS AST AST/TO ratio

BIBBY 31.0 10.2 4.0 2.86

TEAGUE 11.3 4.5 2.5 5.0

Based on these stats, we would likey benefit overall, both immediately and longterm, from giving Teague more mins and Bibby fewer. However, both Teague and the team are being victimized by Woodson’s insecurities and misplaced loyalities.

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Yall know in little league sports when a father coaches his son and he’s sorry. The father will put his son in the game in place of a better player just so his son can shine. That’s how I feel with Woody and Bibby. Bibby is the third best point guard on the team and yet he starts. SMH

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It’s clearing up quite a bit. This also has been quite amusing. I just hope I can hold my own with you guys and not embarass myself. Thanks for the heads up. alot of times I’ll be 20 or more min. behind with a response; Some of us old timers type slowly.

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Cool lots to talk about. Sautee, are you a B!tch? You seem like one. I noticed the bold letters in the writing when your B!tch azze acted like truth serum. What a passing of gas you are. everyone could see the bold lettering in text is only given to the Woody haters crew. Ok Sautee, you are funny.

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*Mz. Hawkdafied ( the above to you)

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Sautee, I dont think you are really a b!tch, truth serum probably said that. You can be my b!tch any day!!

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Same “OLE” Ken, nothing left to talk about so he bashes Woody about minutes. Are you kidding me? He should be coaching for the playoffs? Dude, this is the Atlanta Hawks, not the Lakers. All I know is that we are 4-1 and that’s great.

Last year, we went to the second round with Woody’s philosophy. It mattered not how many minutes we played to get there, we would not have beaten the Cavs. So the only other outcome would be not make the 4th seed at all and lose in the 1st round.

Clyde,

Talk to me at the end of the year. Yall are good but you need a QB. What you gonna do with Rev. Tebow?

Woody=COY

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B!tch Sautee, so truth serum made a typo on the year’s date and you b!tched out of proportion. Is that why he think? you are a fool? B!tch Sautee, can you copy and paste the post where he said Zaza gets rebounds because hes lazy? Other wise it may be that you are B!tching this out of proportion too. Can you get your stanky azzse to copy and paste it? Im your friend B!tch

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What the Hell. I’ve been lol reading this page just now. You dudes are funny man.

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ken/sybil no, sautee

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Truth Serum fine with me I have no time for small minded people anyway.

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Oh Sybil, not him too, all those others will be jealous !

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Here an import message for Ken:

I HATE WOODY, WOODSON, HATE , ANGER, MO HATE, I HATE WOODY,SOME MO HATE, STUPIDITY, I HATE WOODSON, HATE WOODY, BITTER, ETC. ETC, MO HATE

PAID FOR BY THE LOCAL KNIGHTS OF THE SOUTHERN BUBBA CREW.

STAY TO FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

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*from ken

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Hope the Bulls knock off Cleveland tonight!

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Can’t the AJC find a way to shut down these crazy folks who post multiple blogs under aliases or under other people’s screen names? While I don’t read most of their hate filled or homo themed crap, It’s just annoying having to scroll through so much hate garbage. This is a basketball blog! Not a personal ad blog. You wanna get into homosexual or racial talk, I’m sure you all known what website to go to! It’s really simple. You don’t like the Hawks, you don’t like Marvin or a particular Hawks player? The answer is easy. Don’t watch their games and don’t post on or read their blogs. Sounds simple, doesn’t it? Man, Get the f#ck outtahere!

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Blast: my apologies if my “2″ posts offended you.
*the grp. sx. remark was in fact mine and was a play on an old
Lewis Grizzard line. It was a reference to Truth Sybil and his
multiple personality disorder.
*the other crack was in reference to TS post using the sreen name
blankity blank sund.
I was baiting him and if it was out of line then I will refrain from such tactics. He is so much like a little kitten and if you dangle a string in front of him/her…he/she just cannot stand it. Kitty just has to take a swipe @ it.

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If 4-1 is coaching scared, i’ll take it. Cuz, if you’re still here? Maybe “Ya Boy” Rich Rodriquez needs to coach a little scared up in AnnArbor huh. LOL!!!

Woody=COY

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Fire the Zen Master

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Sharing the ball and a strong defensive effort are the keys to victory tonight.

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The Hawks wll have a fine season, make the playoffs as the third seed and lose in the second round of the playoffs just like last year. The reason is not that they lack the talent but the organization lacks the vision and resolve to have as its goal an NBA championship. Sure they have improved the team and will win a few more games but that about it. With the current roster, the Hawks are a dominant center away from being a true contender for a ring but I think they are content to make improvement on last year. Celtics, Lakers, Calvaliers, even Orlando talk about championships while teams like the Hawks talk about making the playoffs. If you can’t believe or conceive of winning it all, then you will never achieve it and that my friends is truth. Can we handle the truth!!!!

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I’ve been out of pocket but I’m back. Thanks for the props guys regarding my last post. When the spirit hits me, I just write.

Doc: Yes to your response, it would seem since coaches are an extension of the team, the two are inseparable. However, contrary to college sports, the general perception of the NBA game is mostly driven by the players. Perhaps that could explain why owners first preference is to fire a coach when things go astray without dislodging fans support. While the fans may stay connected to the team, the players could be severely impacted by such a move. The drama created from this quagmire is perhaps one reason why the game is so intriguing.

SAY IT AINT SO, SEKOU IS LEAVING? NOT BEFORE THE TRUTH GETS THE LAST WORD:

Sekou, I wish you nothing but the best on your next endeavor. The fan community may be the most impacted by your departure as you have provided the one thing that was missing in the past: REAL ACCESS. You need to know how much we appreciated all that you did. While your professionalism and your body of work maybe imitated, it really can’t be duplicated. Clearly you come from a good stock as it has transcended into the excellent quality of service that you have provided us. I’m sure you will leverage it well. Without me rambling any further, I’ll just co-sign a recent comment I read from hawksdawgs of Peachtree Hoops:

Sekou Smith, beat writer extraordinaire, is headed to NBA.com. Not sure who is replacing Sekou but he or she is going to have a tough time replacing the sheer amount of quality recaps, blog posts, twitter notes, and quotes that Sekou brought year round. With all that material, Sekou made blogging easy. If you could not find something to say in the sheer volume and quality of Mr. Smith’s work well you really didn’t have anything to say. He will be missed.

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NBA.com is gaining one excellent writer. While happy for the promotion, I will greatly miss Sekou being the Hawks Beat Writer. I truly believe that he is/was one of the best in the Country.

I suppose it is good that Slam and NBA.com both are populated with Writers with ties to the Hawks.
While Sekou is not a lifelong Hawks fan the way that Lang Whitaker is, I am sure he will always have a soft spot for the Hawks. This can only help the Hawks National perception and coverage.
Sekou, fair thee well.
J

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Ken: Well said. I think Mr. Sund will change the scope and focus of the organization.
KS: Tyson Chandler, although a 7 footer, is not a hoss such as[Dwight,Oden,Gasol/Bynum,Shaq,et al]. I would take Big Al any day over Chandler, Okafor, Foster,or other middling centers. Yes, he more than holds his own. I think people like myself who see Al as a 4, do not disparage him as a basketball player. I just see a potential all-star if he had a fair fight every night. AND…for those who think Josh cannot play the 3, Dr J was pretty good, even though not a great outside shooter. He was a slasher as Josh is becoming. This weould also give Josh a fair fight every night. With the proper teaching and commitment, JS could become another Artest/lock down defender.
Just sayin’.

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I want to join the rest in wishing SEKOU success in his new job. Always had great posts. He is leaving us in great shape though. Best blog on the web for endepth discussion on a basketball team. Great variety of thought with pretty with good reasoning even if one disagrees with parts of a post. The Nest and PeachTreeHoops and others make great reading and commenting. The Hawks are on the rise.

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KevinA,

Got to give you props for “reconsidering” your attitude toward Crawford. There are those on the blog who take a stance, and can NOT give it up. You have my admiration for your admission about J.C. I’m glad he won you over.

And, my two cents on the shot % thing:

To me it’s MUCH more important that we work inside out EVEN IF THE FRONTCOURT DOES NOT TAKE THE SHOT.

I’m saying that it makes the defense react when the ball goes inside. If that gives us more open looks, REGARDLESS OF WHO SHOOTS THE BALL, then I’ll be happier. The idea is to make them work on defense. When we go ISO, their defense gets too much rest.

And, as you and I have long discussed, Horford and Josh make good decisions passing the ball (hence their relatively high assist numbers for their positions).

INSIDE OUT!

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jc is the big difference in our team this year. he is limiting the amount of time that the ball is in jj hands. when jc is not in the game jj plays iso joe. woody had the team moral about destroyed last
season, js took the team on his shoulders & they came back. woody is not helpful. the only thing that
is making this offense look better is less iso joe & more up tempo with jt & jc.

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Kevin A, Niremental, Sautee, all great points! Inside out, much like a fb team establishing a running game first. Another observation if I may,
more movement(motion)would allow for opportunities such as, Joe posting up, Josh shootig mid-range but coming off screens and getting his shot in rhythm instead of stand still set shots. It would involve everyone. Plus Al could catch and shoot in post (off flash or cut) instead of wrestling for pos. then dribble,dribble,dribble withback to basket against taller/longer opponents. Win,Win.

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Sautee,

“There are those on the blog who take a stance, and can NOT give it up.”

What if you take a stance, and your stance is proven correct. Then what?

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Rod f C P: What if you are both right.

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I MUS,

I know some of us are complaining about minutes already, although we’re 4-1. But Woody does not change much during the season, so the way he is now is usually the way he is after 60 games. And we dont want JJ to be tired/worn down (or hurt) at the end of the season (or playoffs). Last year, JJ averaged 39 mpg, this year he averages 38 mpg.

And if Bibby gets hurt, Teague will have to get more minutes anyway, so why not develop him more from now.

Maybe we are nitpicking, but we are also looking big picture, and down the road.

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What I’m seeing is that Woody isn’t playing Teague that much because he likes the line-up of JJ, JC, Bibby or JC and Bibby. He likes having another shooter on the floor and Teague’s shot isn’t there yet. Clearly Teague should be getting more minutes but I’m not overly concerned. Woody coaches every game by what happens during the game and not by planned agenda’s. Teague looks like a keeper and should be well into the rotation by the end of the season.

GO HAWKS!

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Ken, I agree with your assessment of Teague’s abilities over Bibby’s but right now he’s not ready to start. The team trusts Bibby’s leadership and he takes and makes big shots. Bibby won games for the team last year and Woody wants that type of leadership on the court. Teague deserves more minutes and more time to develop his shot, but I think starting him at this point would be counter productive. I think Teague should be getting between 10-15 minutes a game and Bibby should be around 28-30mins. Bibby is effective enough on defense and penetrating for stretches, but he can’t do it for an entire game. Teague can get Bibby the rest he needs, while having time on the court to develop.

GO HAWKS!!

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Rod,

Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly have you PROVEN?

I KNOW that you don’t like Marvin’s game. Is THAT what you mean?

Rod, there’s no need for us to go round and round about Marvin. We think differently about him, but as you know, I AGREE with SOME of what you say about him, but I think you tend to over-exaggerate Marvin’s faults and belittle his contributions. I’m disappointed in him so far, and don’t think he’ll EVER be what we’d hope a #2 pick would be, BUT, he’s only 23 and will get better and contribute more as he becomes more experienced. You sometimes act as if he contributes NOTHING, which is not only untrue, but undermines your credibility on the issue, at least for me.

Marvin has already proven to all of us that he was picked too highly. THAT’S NOT HIS FAULT! No player can “choose” where he’s picked in the draft.

And believe it or not, Rod, I was NOT thinking of you when I wrote that post. In fact, you didn’t cross my mind in that regard until you posted. I was thinking of our long lost buddy Astro Joe, whose intransigence about Crawford was noteworthy.

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Ken S,

Yeah, for an old guy, my memory is still pretty good. Although SOME things I’d LOVE to forget, if you know what I mean.

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K S: Another factor in shot distribution is thats the way Woody wants it. Joe has to make all-stars. Bibby is his guy. Remember when we first got Bibby; Woody – “If he doesn’t like the offense, then he can change it” which may be his most assinine statement ever. even if Bibby could probably improve anything Woody concocted(off.); you still don’t say that. Now I’m angry all over again. As for Teague…suppose for a min. Chris Paul was a rookie, I honestly believe he would be sitting as well. I actually heard some folks say Teager might be in the running for ROY. Well not now. AND goodness gracious sakes alive when (not if) we do challenge for the title it’s gonna be with Teague not Bibby running theshow. I’m not knocking Bibby either, you just have to let the pup on the floor NOW. Without exp. he’s not gonna be any more ready tomorrow,the next day, next wk., next month…you do not get exp. by osmosis. Sorry, I got carried away.

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We are going to regret re-signing Marvin, Bibby, and Zaza in the summer of 2010.

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I disagree clyde, Zaza may very well be the best bargain of the three. Bibby is a perfectly fine mentor for Jeff. Last and quite frankly Marv is our best trade chip. I’m not saying we should trade him, before you put me in the anti-Marv category. He has a great contract to keep or trade. We have not had a trade chip in quite a while. Somehow, we eventually, must find a big for a true championship run. Joe has to put his cards on the table before the trade deadline(with Mr. Sund). Then he [Sund] will know which path to take. Having them[Z,Bibby,Marv]under contract gives us both flexibility and the ability to compete; unlike the Knicks.

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BENCH MARVIN WILLIAMS. SEND HIM TO THE NBDL SO HE CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY. HE IS NOT AVERAGING 14 PPG. LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS THIS YEAR, IDIOTS

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KWOODEN1-I don’t know what Teague has done so far that would give you, or anyone else for that matter, the idea he’s not ready to start now. If he’s not, he certainly won’t reach that point with Woodson giving him the ALaw treatment. DO YOU THINK THE NBA WOULD HAVE YOUNG ALLSTARS LIKE CPAUL, DROSE AND DWILLIAMS PRODUCING THE WAY THEY ARE IF THEY PLAYED UNDER A HC THAT THINKS ABOUT THEM THE WAY WOODSON AND YOU THINK ABOUT TEAGUE? Teagie is ready to start, it’s Woodson and his love affair with vets, especially with Bibby, that’s not ready for him to start.

Did you see the last 2 gms? While Crawford hit some key jumpshots throughout the gm, it was his penetration and attacking the basket that made the difference. Although Teague can’t hit the 3 like Bibby, how many can, he can do virtually everything else that Bibby can’t do. We all know Bibby isn’t going to get any quicker, faster, shoot any better or improve overall. So how is he going to make us better as a team playing 31MPG.

Here’s my point. You’re right, Teague can’t shoot the 3 like Bibby, and probably never will, but does he need too? However, Bibby can’t consistently penetrate, breakdown DEF’s or create easy scoring opportunities for his teammates. Between the two attributes, which do you really think would benefit this team the most. Bibby’s 3pt shooting ability or Teague’s ability to breakdown DEF’s, draw fouls and create easy inside scoring opportunities for Smoove, Horford, Zaza, JSmith and/or Marvin?

TERRELL BARRON-you’re right about that. FLIP took more shots than Chills(795 to 570), played fewer MPG(24.7 to 29.9MPG), yet barely managed to outscore him(12.2PPG to 11.8PPG).

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LETS GET IT…!! 3-1 ROAD TRIP!! LETS GO MAN!!!

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trying to find sekou is about as hard as trying to find waldo? where is this dude at? Does he ever read his own blog and respond to some of the questions the fans ask? not saying that he can answer all of them but I am sure he knows more than we do.

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Is it a rule or something for the Hawks to always let the other team jump the gun and get the early lead. Why do we start so slow???

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I like Charlotte’s ball movement.

Also, this is where our depth is HUGE. Josh with 2 quick fouls…

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Nique said Heat Check lord help us

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lol@marvin williams literally “bird walkin”

such a duck

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no idea why they start so slow

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Good to see Woody try Crawford on Bell because JJ wasn’t having any success tryin’ to guard him…

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lol flip

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I hope Flip doesnt murder us tonight

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so glad marvin didnt trip

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is josh hurt???

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Josh just has 2 fouls woody not 4 put him in.

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We’re making Charlotte look like a potent offensive team

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there is no intensity or pressure from the defense… its like we coasting on d…

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On defense it looks like there’s ALWAYS an opening…..either with someone on the perimeter..or more embarrassingly a RIDE OPEN paint.

We’ve had too many games both last year and the year before where it seemed like teams had the paint open the entire contest…..you mean to tell me we can’t have corrected this after all of this time??

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Hawks ain’t getting no calls at all.

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why did he try a runner?

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Where is our defensive intensity?

And Josh is forcing the issue. We are down 15 to the Bobcats! What?

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The bobcats couldn’t score 60 points on the celtics now they are whoopin the dogs.it outta us

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FIRE WOODY

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Settle down people, we’re always down to the Bobcats in their place every year and we come back. Refs aren’t blowing the whistle for us right now but it will turn around. Raja Bell won’t stay hot all game. Once again, Josh gets no respect, he gets clobbered twice and no calls. He is not a good free throw shooter you stupid referees so players will foul him intentionally if need be, and they are fouling him. Give him a f..king call!!

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I’d rather see Josh miss layups than to see Bibby and Marvin (as well as Joe) miss jumpers. At least that means he’s attacking, and trying to draw fouls.

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Teague played 4 minutes in the first half. Will he go over or under for the second half?

And the Bobcats are +10 in rebounds.

I hope Woody’s half time speech is different from the half time speech when we played the Lakers…

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We can’t guard guards. 11-14 for the little fellers Bell and DJ.

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Switching defense = retarded. They get our big men out on the perimeter on a switch, take them to the lane off the dribble, our perimeter guys collapse to help, and they kick it back out to someone (usually Raja) wide open on the perimeter.

You don’t think Larry Brown had a gameplan coming in? Good grief!

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Man marvin drive u goofy fool

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Drive the damn ball

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Man the hawks are gonna lose this game

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Put the second team in QUICK!

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Down 15 to the Bobcats wow

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Good drive Jamal. Go to the hole

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Horford is too short to guard chandler

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This team can’t even beat the Bobcats and they wanna be considered elite. LMAO

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Woodson still doesn’t realize Horford is a damn Power Forward not a center. He’s too short woody u idiot.

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Yeah. We’re losing to the Bobcats because Horford is too short to play center. Well, I guess we’re also losing because Chandler has a blazing 10 points.

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Looks like it’s a good thing I took a nap and missed this disaster. Just looking at the box score, it looks like one of those games that you just forget about and move on, that you really can’t take anything away from.

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Marvin gets a pass lol

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Ray,

I asked Sekou on the previous blog if Collins has been hurt. or whats the deal, but Sekou never responded. Maybe Woody is saving him for the playoffs lol

Coming into the game, these are the Bobcats point totals: 59 against the Celtics, 100 against the Knicks, 79 against Cleveland and 79 against New Jersey. This might be their highest point total of the year.

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Denver is getting blown out also.

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I mean, the ‘Cats played great and all, and the refs helped them out, but Hawks played terrible. Defence was awful, the switch was exposed as never before, jumpshots rimmed off or clanged off…. Everything went wrong…. Think Hawks took these guys too lightly tonight, and just could not get over the hump. Hope they learn from this. Even Flip is killing them. They better bring it versus Denver.

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If size is such an issue why does Wallace a league leader in rebounds at 6′7″.

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Bone ,

I didn’t say you were. Where are YOU getting this? I’m laughing at the idea that Horford is too short to play against Chandler, when he’s already played against 7′2″ Roy Hibbert and beat him senseless. I KNOW why we’re losing. And that ain’t it.

As for bringing somebody in who is taller, that’s been a point of discussion here on this very blog, since 2007. Trust me. It has. Can’t do anything about it, and last I looked, we already have two guys on the team that are taller he is. Doesn’t make them better centers. Fact is, a starting caliber center that stands 6′11″ or better is hard to come by. We don’t have one, so Al it is. I’ve argued for Al to be our starting PF for some time. For some reason, the Hawks brass isn’t listening to me anymore than they are anybody else. Go figure….

Or maybe it’s because nobody else wants to give up a starting caliber center of 6′11″ or greater without taking an arm and a leg in return….

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Yes! Nuggets getting blown out also. Crazy league, the NBA is.

Sekou, you gonna at least drop one more blog before you leave?

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dat boy Randmo…

a foul waiting to happen…

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its like they refused to have a winning road trip…

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I knew this would happen.

Hawks looking past this game.

Joe cannot rebound for jack!@#$ for a 6″7 huge guard. Rebounding sucks bad. Marvin still sucks too. Wow this guy really cannot convert a layup. Jumps away from the basket when he drives.

get rid of this clown already

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MARVIN WILLIAMS SUCKS

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O’brien thanks for bringing that point up about Marvin. He really has no excuse to be so sorry.

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Some reasons why we lost.

1) Outrebounded by 20
2) Charlotte 11-18 from 3, Hawks 2-16
3) Charlotte had 24 assists, Hawks had 10 (too much 1 on 1)
4) Raja Bell outplayed JJ
5) Flip outplayed Crawford

But again, this was a team loss. Coaching staff got outcoached, and the players got outplayed.

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I only got to see the 1st half, so I can’t comment about the entire gm. Based on what I saw in the 1st half, I thought the Hawks intended to add and extension to the Charlotte coliseum after seeing all of those bricks. Again, we started out very slow on OFF and played little DEF. We have got to start taking better advantage of our speed, quickness and athleticism and STOP TRYING TO BEAT EVERYBODY BY SHOOTING SO DAM MANY JUMPSHOTS.

What I did see was us giving the ball to Horford and Smoove, clearing out so they can pound the ball and back their man down. As soon as the DEF doubles the ball, we’re lost. We don’t pass it out and we certainly don’t swing it. How many times did we see them swing the ball after passing it out of the post?

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The Hawks were crushed and out matched inside tonight. Nice game from Flip after an injury. There not much difference in Flip and Crawford except for about 4.5 mil per year. Head to head flip was very confident against Crawford and they play a lot of head to head. Nice game from flip.

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Not a good look for the ATL Hawks tonight. What a disappointment!

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En español

Cuartos principales del equipo de Bubba
6 de noviembre de 2009 10:21 P.M.

Heres un análisis del juego de hoy de Ken Stickland,

ODIO ARBOLADO, WOODSON, ODIO, CÓLERA, ODIO DEL MES, YO ODIO ARBOLADO, UN CIERTO ODIO DEL MES, ESTUPIDEZ, YO ODIO WOODSON, EL ODIO ARBOLADO, AMARGO, ETC. ETC, ODIO DEL MES PAGADO POR LOS CABALLEROS LOCALES DEL EQUIPO MERIDIONAL DE BUBBA. CONSONANCIA DE LA ESTANCIA PARA OTROS PROGRESOS.

Juego Teague

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日本語
2009年11月6日 10:21 pm

HeresケンSticklandからの今日のゲームの分析、

私は木質を、WOODSONの憎悪、怒り、MOの憎悪、私憎む、MOの憎悪木質を、愚かさ、私憎む、等等木質、苦いのWOODSON、憎悪MOの

憎悪を憎む 南BUBBAの乗組員のローカル騎士によっての支払をされる。 それ以上の開発のための滞在の調子。

演劇Teague

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OK, I see your point. Thats very specific.

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also charlotte hasnt played since monday flip hast played at all

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Flip is motivated every night, also it was his first day back from a leg injury, so he wasnt a hundred percent.

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