Pump your brakes

first

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First!!!

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First?

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The hawks are a good team and will be ok. The reason they will not be looked at a as championship caliber team is because they don’t have a constant go to guy down low.

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Sekou,

We havent seen Collins yet this season, and I really think we could have used him (legit 7 footer who plays defense) against Bynum, because Horford wasnt giving us much defensively or offensively.

Is Collins injured? And if so, is there a prognosis for when he might be ready to play?

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Josh Smith reminds me of Michael Vick because both are so athletically gifted and loose focus on the fundamentals.

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LOL @ the part on Marvin. People thinking Marvin will bounce back. It’s not hard to go from a “bad” 6 point game to his astonishing regular average of 12 ppg. What’s that? One open jumpshot and a few free throws? Marvin will bounce back and only fall down once during this game, rather than 3 times! Of course it being Portland, he may even score 15 points, since he had such a breakout year last year. LOL this guy is a joke.

And the Hawks know Aldridge is frail right now. What will they do? Nothing. Horford will accidentally foul Aldridge and then help him up (like we did in the Cleveland series) and apologize. Roy will destroy us in the 3rd qtr if we don’t adjust.

START CRAWFORD OVER MARVIN. I AM NOT BEING A KNEE-JERK REACTOR. I’VE ALWAYS THOUGHT MARVIN SUCKS. GET RID OF THIS FRAIL AWKWARD TIMID MOCKERY OF A PLAYER

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What is the link to CP3 supposed to do for us? Are we still supposed to be wishing upon a star that we had drafted him instead of Marvin? No thank you…..one crybaby on our team is quite enough.

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Man, !@#$ Rondo.

First, the dude looks like a lesbian.. One Allen and KG are gone in the next 2 years or so (maybe Allen next year), you will see Rondo suffer. He is a f*!@ing punk. So is Paul Pierce — fat@$$. Celtics are a classless organization.

It’s too bad we passed on Cp3, Deron, and Bynum, and Grainger. These are 4 of the classiest players in the NBA. Deron gave the game winning ball to the late Larry Miller’s wife after a game — what would Rondo do?

One thing I can say is the Hawks are a very classy organization, and I hope CP3 punches Rondo the hell out soon. CP3 may be the best PG ever (D.Rose isn’t far off) and Rondo sucks @#%@#%^@#^

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JeJe

Did I miss something? Was there an incident?

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What do you people want from Marvin? What do you expect when he’s on a team with GREEDY GUARDS!? Did you watch the LA game… not only did Joe go off and possibly deservedly so didn’t pass much… but Marv didn’t even TOUCH THE BALL ON OFFENSE TILL MORE THAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE 1st QUARTER! You expect a guy who isn’t integrated into the offense for MINUTES at a time to do what? Show u 18 to 20 points a game… please. Atleast when the guy got the ball he was still motivated enough to shoot it.. missed ‘em.. but he took the shots.

I just don’t understand how some people fail to realize that when the team goes to Marvin he performs. Marv can’t make Bibby, Joe, Jamal pass to him… he can’t make Woody go away from ISO JOE even tho everyone in the world knows that’s whats comin! If Marv sucks its because our guards are STINGY! Start making the EXTRA PASS! that’s high school basketball… why don’t the hawks get that? 3 games in and Marv is struggling. I’d bet money that he buckles down and gets his in the next 3 weeks.

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I disagree somewhat about what Marvin can do about it. Good offensive players demand the ball occasionally. If Marvin did that, the guards would get it to him, but I have never seen him do it. He just needs to be more aggressive, more assertive, and you can do that without the ball.

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Hawks going 10 & 1 would be nice, but would not take away the fact that Bynum kicked our butt and Woody did nothing about it. I would have assume Collins was brought in to provide veteran leadership, experienced defense in the post & rebounding. Why was he not inserted in the game to take on the challenge of Bynum in the post? He was destroying our bigs, it was like Kareem againsts Spud Webb. This game showed me our biggest obstacle going forward is Woody.

As one poster stated it depends on WWWD “What Would Woody Do”….current answer is nothing.

Props to JJ for going off on Kobe in his house in the first quarter. That said he needed to stay engaged for the duration of the game, because will always take on the challenge…JJ tailed off but Kobe stayed engaged until the deal was done.

Just one loss, but you can learn alot about your coach in such games,once again Woody not able to make in game adjustments, which gives the appearance the same coach patrolls the our sidelines. He must use the new pieces at the appropriate time. You can’t say whether Collins would not have made a difference, because Woody gave him a DNP???????? “WWWD”

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I have so much more respect for Chris Paul than his “superstar peers” like Lebron, Wade, and some of the others. He, like K.G., just goes out there and plays regardless of who’s around him. they put up numbers when it’s needed not because it gets them attention. Rondo needs to pump his breaks because he is not the reason Boston is at the level they are.

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^^^^^Edit: arena^^^^^

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sekou, josh, whether you like it or not, is the straw that stirs the drink. he can fill up a stat sheet like nobody else on this team meaning he can do what others dream abut on both ends of the court. an enigma? yes, a force, even more so. yes, at 23 still young and not the caliber that kobe is or lebron but he is as close as we can come to the mercurial youngster growing into a very important role for this team the next five years. he has to learn to show up every night and grind it out when he doesnt have his a game. become a grinder josh.

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I totally agree with the statement about Josh Smith. When he is playing at a high level the Hawks are a tough team to beat. I even remember Joe making a statement about that. JS needs to learn to be consistant and hopefully he will learn alot of Joe Smith this year that will help him improve his game and the Hawks’ team goals.

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This is the real Grandad (Sekou: I sure hope you can discern from your end) Once again I read this board for information. I may disagree wi. someone but anger and namecallin’ is a waste of time. Plus, you will never see me curse like my emasculated young alter ego, Sybil. Now; I would like to share 4 pts.:
1. Recently “vava 74″ mentioned a minor pt. about the Hawks never shoot
coming off screens. Minor pt. wi. major consequences…rhythm
shooters will improve their % just by implementing that 1 minor
aspect and I think it would greatly help Josh in his mid-range
game. Perhaps – give Josh a rule [no set shots] he must only shoot
jumpers coming off screens.
2. Marv: supposedly worked on his “driving game.” Marv is not a
slasher *this is an example of not understanding one’s role,
although I think a better word is skill set.
3. Joe did not get all 18 1st qtr. pts. on jumpers. He had one beautiful
post score when he sealed his man off a high/low feed. Why did we
not see that again?
4. Last for right now – Don’t forget Josh still had 7 assts. v. LA.

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Please Calm down

We are going to lose between 25-30 games this year and we are going to lose to some very good teams. What we need to ask is, are we better?
I think we are better and that is all I can expect from the Hawks. I need to believe that they are doing the best they can with the resources they have. No one is going to trade a low post center for Marvin or Josh…and Paul isn’t coming to Atlanta for Bibby.

What we have to do is make small additions and hope the young players mature to championship caliber. Most championship teams are built through the draft and grow-up together. We have a very strong nucleus of players and the Hawks will be good for the next 5 years and every year I will have hope.

The people who want to trade every player away(Some of you wanted SHAQ)GO PLAY Xbox…I will wait a little longer on Marvin, Josh, Al and Teague.

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Willie coyote- I like CP3 as well, I got a chance to sit in his private suite last year. I met him after the game-he is really a humble/cool guy. the man just goes out and kills people no excuses no whinning about players and direction of the team.

Lebron,wade,JJ could learn a few things from this guy….O wait JJ aient a superstar- Lebron/Wade then

Have to disagree on Rondo, he is a major part of what they do and what they are. I couldnt believe the numbers yungn was putting up in the Playoffs. if i had to take one player from that team it would definitely be Rondo-23 yo stud who will be in the best Pg conversations for years to come.

What do we have to give up to get Brook Lopez…. Crawford,JJ,Smoove,Horford,Lopez

Marvin is taking a beating around here and he deservedly so,but come on did we really expect him to be a totally different player over a 3 month period in the summer,I sure didnt. Every summer its the same shyt- Marvin is this, Marvin is that, Marvin is gonna have a break out year…………..So far Marvin has been a WACK SANDWICH!!!!!! I honestly didnt have any expectations for the guy- I knew he could shoot the rock, and now he doesnt even do that-DAM

I better not ever here Marvin compared to Granger….. F__K OUTTA HERE.

Thats like comparing Jordan to Johnny Newman, or Shawn Kemp to Horford…………..STOP IT PEOPLE

JeJe you starting to scare me….put the gun down.dont do it!!!!

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Marvin, Bibby and Mo/Teaque will get Chris Paul here. Remember , the Hawks are his favorite team. BUT, Woodson didn’t want him so there is a problem.

Reading between the lines in the CP III piece, he wants out but won’t go public because of his loyalty to his teammates and the organization can’t take on the comparable salary of his possible replacement trade wise(sound familiar?)Therefore, a creative deal would have to be structures to provide frontcourt scoring help for the Hornets; a “name” replacement for CPIII at the point and a salary ,preferably an expiring contract to round out the numbers.

The Hawks would have a bona fide superstar ,who is 24, at a posistion of need. The only thing again is that such a deal would require some line up changes that Woodson would be loath to make. But maybe ,for once, it wouln’t be about him , it would be about the championship aspirations of Hawk fans like me.

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The Hawks will never win a championship under Woodson, nor the present ownership for that matter. The owners are too cheap to bring big-time players here and even if they did, Woodson would screw them up too!

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ILL-logical,

I like your proposal, but I think Grandad is right. Hornets would want to include a bad contract to make the trade look better for them (and to look better to their fans).

In my opinion, if we were to make this deal at the end of this season, it would have to be a deal like Peja Stojakovich ($14 mil) and Chris Paul ($14 mil) for Jamal Crawford (expiring contract at ~$10mil), Marvin Williams ($8 mil) and Mike Bibby ($6 mil).

Looking at what CP3 did for Tyson Chandler and David West, I can only imagine what he could do for Al Horford and Josh Smith. Plus Woody would still get a PG who can knock down jumpers, drive and dish, come up with steals, and get JJ the ball in good spots.

Anyways, if the Hawks can make a deal for CP3 at the end of the season, I hope they look into it, and I really think Woody would be on board.

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Sekou: I know it’s early but I want you to propose a trade to the GM.

Trade Joe Johnson and Al Horford to Miami for Dwyane Wade. Then resign Wade to long term contract.

New Starting Five:
PG: Bibby
SG: Wade
SF: Williams
SG: Smith
C: Collins

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Grandad/O’Brien: NO would not trade an All-Star for a guy coming off the bench (Crawford), a guy who should be coming off the bench (Williams) and another guy that should be coming off the bench (Bibby). If we don’t do the Wade trade I suggested, then JJ for Paul str8 up but NO would probably have to throw in a player to make the numbers work.

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By the way, I wouldn’t wait til the end of the season for the Wade trade. Lets do it now.

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For Real,

I would trade JJ for CP3, straight up. But why would the Hornets do that deal when they dont get any salary relief or financial flexibility?

And I dont see the Hawks trading Horford.

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How many more seasons must we wait for “bad” Josh to stop showing up half of the time and be able to expect a CONSISTENT performance from him???

The hawks offense = get the ball….take your man to the hoop one on one…..or take the jump shot.

Josh isnt good at either one. He could be deadly in an offense with a lot of movement or an uptempo style, which obviously isnt gonna happen with Woody being the coach.

As long as Woody is the coach with his offensive scheme, I dont see Josh improving offensively.

Get Woodson out of here, or Trade Josh for a player(s) that fit Woodson’s offense better.

As for Marvin, he isnt all that but can have a nice streaky jumper. He is expendable, but the SF position can be better suited simply by starting Mo Evans and bringing Marvin off the bench.

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Hows this for an answer to CP3’s problems n New Orleans…Bibby/Teague/Marvin for CP3

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Alot of the points being made by posters on this blog after the Lakers loss are not people saying the Hawks are done and won’t make the playoffs and are a completely terrible team. Rather, folks have seen the real weaknesses in this team that have lingered for some time and are ready for them to be LEGITIMATELY addressed. To pass that off as everyone is overreacting is not accurate and it’s refusing to acknowledge the very REAL flaws in this team. These flaws won’t just go away on their own. At some point, if the Hawks are to reach the next level, they’ll need to be addressed. This blog has some VERY knowledgeable basketball fans on it and when the flaws of this reveal themselves again, those fans will and should point them out.

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niremetal

November 3rd, 2009
1:31 pm
I don’t think success or failure comes down to any one player…when the Hawks lose badly, it always seems like 3-4 guys lay an egg, not just any 1.

I agree, it was like Easter Sunday with the eggs being turnovers.

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Nice to see Hawk fans still indulging in their favorite pastime: Fantasy trades.

Marvin still getting bashed big time. If Marvin had been picked 20th in the draft, will he get so much vitriol directed at him when he plays badly?

Hate those West Coast games. They come on too late. 10pm? Give me a break!

Go Hawks, Go!

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*O’Brien: As for the CP3 fantasy…I think the only way to steal him would be @ the trade deadline. Sorry, I had intended to mention that before. N.O. would get immediate sal. relief in Joe’s exp. contract.
Teague would have to be part of any deal, one would think. I agree this is an odd time to be talking trade but Sekou planted the seed. And Yes, we would still need a 5 wi. a def. prescence. *On another note about “Paul” he is considered an outstanding defender with good #’s in both steals & rebounds.
*Dos H: It does make you wonder…if they watch and or break down film.
*Good Josh will show up consistantly when good Woody shows up.

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Sorry for the typos, in a rush to get to Bible study.

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Actually no; on the trade suggestions, just responding to peoples ideas.
I like our team( although we still need someone to guard the basket). Also, Woody could use an infusion of creativity.

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Sekou Smith

November 3rd, 2009
6:38 pm
Some of the stuff that gets tossed around on this blog some days makes me smile. I realize nothing short of a championship will satisfy the masses but goodness.

I don’t mind losing to the Lakers but when you go up against a front court that has more skill the best thing you can do is play smash mouth basketball. Collins and ZaZa should have used up their fouls with one thing in mind. Let them get their points at the free throw line. Send them home with bumps and bruises. Be willing to give up a few fast break points because the entire team is crashing the boards

There ought to be a team rule. No jumper for anyone unless they have made a foul shot first. This would mean attacking the rim. We may not be as good as the Lakers but we can certainly be more aggressive and more physical.

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The Hawks really need a new coach. So many of the problems could be corected with good coaching and toughness.

Zaza should be playing a rebounding enforcer role. Trying to get O out of him is bad entertainment.

I think Smoove would stat inside if the ball ever came in there. Our guards don’t create movement and the big guys don’t get touches. No one but JJ and Bibby get off because they won’t consistently run a balanced O.

Of course, all of this is coaching.

Please fire Woodson asap. Bring in Adelman’s clone.

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Ramon

November 3rd, 2009
6:42 pm
mismatches in favor of the Hawks offensive game plan (that sounds redundant doesn’t it, lol).

Could you elaborate. Which mismatches do the Hawks have? Seeing that the hawk are a team of average players and one 2nd tier all star It occurs to most people that Woodson has done an out standing Job.

So what mis matches to we have. When I match the World Champions starting five with Our starting Five Im not seeing any mismatches.

Your comment “that sounds redundant doesn’t it, lol” Well to me the only thing that sounds redundant is the naggy whinny whimpering you do when you and Ken/grandad, level hate at Woodson with out justification.

Again, can you explain the so call mismatches? The only mis matches I see is the facts and your blog. Now that’s a mis match.

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This is the real Grandad (Sekou: I sure hope you can discern from your end)

Id like to talk about Woodson, hes been here 5 years and hasnt won a championship with all that talent we have. I think we should fire him immediately. A team with this much talent should be in the finals every year.Woodson is holding this team back. If Ken Strickland, Bob Weiss or OJ Simpson was the coach wed have our title. Ive talked with OJ, and If I can come up with some bail money (I’m looking for donors), he has assured me that he is willing to take the job. Some times you have to be smart and get the best talent available.

Shouting to my buddy and best friend Ken.

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Sekou: The more I think about it; there have been no trade suggestions that I’ve heard today, that are less feasible than the Lakers acquiring
Pau Gasol 2 yrs. ago for three baseball bats and a bag o’ beans.

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Grandad, why are you bashing woodson so? And what makes you think O.J. can coach basketball?

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Id really doesnt matter who is the coach. O.J. can do it. I can do it, Ken Strickland can do it. Why does it matter who coaches the Hawks. This is the best team with the most allstars. Woodson is holding down the Hawks. I may get Shirley Franklin to coach. who would you like?

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I guess Ill roll over to the real hawks fans blog site where people appreciate Woodson for the fine job he has done.

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I see this has turned into the fantasy league with all of these trade proposals and suggestions that we immediately breakup the team to acquire one player.

JEJE-you have got to be one of the most negative minded individuals on these blogs, because you seem to see and focus on the worst in everything. You made the following statement: “I AM NOT BEING A KNEE-JERK REACTOR”. Well, judging from that disclaimer, you certain realize you’re starting to sound like one. In your defense however, you certainly have plenty of company.

Isn’t it odd how those who are predicting doom and gloom after an 8pt loss to the Lakers in LA, seem to forget how we got blown out by the Lakers last yr and still managed to win 47gms, the 4th seed, and advance to the 2nd rd of the playoffs. I believe Marvin, Josh and Horford were a part of all that as well.

I keep hearing this same sad and sorry excuse being used about Horford being undersized and not being a true center, whatever that’s supposed to mean. In our 1st 3gms Horford has gone up against three 7′ centers.(Horfords stats are in parenthesis)

(1) ABynum 7′0″ 285lbs. 21pts(10) 3rbs(9) 2blks(1)

(2) RHibbert 7′2″ 278lbs. 6pts(24) 9rbs(16) 1blk(2)

(3) BHeywood 7′0″ 263lbs. 19pts(10) 9rbs(12) 2blks(5)

HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU EXPLAIN A SO CALLED UNDERSIZED CENTER, THAT’S SUPPOSEDLY A NATURAL PF THAT’S PLAYING OUT OF POSITION, OUTREBOUNDING ALL THREE 7 FOOTERS AND HAVING MORE BLOCKS? Maybe the only thing that’s undersized is the appreciation and understanding, from those using that as an excuse, for how good a center he actually is.

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Dennis Rodman out rebounded many centers but no one ever mistook him for a center. Charles barkley was the round mound of rebound but no one ever mistook him for a center. Rebounding does not make one a center **Ding!!**

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2 of the three you mentioned clearly dog horford, Ken.

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Good Points Samuel!

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Who has been deciding on the pics, stories and captions for AJC.com lately? A lot of anti-Atlanta (pro-Aints) bullcrap . . .

Also, Joe Johnson doesn’t need to worry about somebody else’s (especially fan’s) perspective. He needs to be more consistent and keep his teammates in the game.

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Nine minutes until tip off. Hope the ATL Hawks make it worth going to work sleepy in the am. You guys are tripping with your trade ideas. Seriously dudes. Sigh!

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GREETINGS FROM KUWAIT. GUESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW THE GAME OVER HERE. I CANT WAIT, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST TIME I GET TO SEE THEM PLAY IN MONTHS. I CAN BARELY CONTAIN MYSELF.

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The Pistons just handed the Magic their first loss of the season. The Piston sure have their number.

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GOOD START FOR MARV

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Dam Marv missed a jam

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Marvin with the sissy finish

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Even tho Josh made that he shouldn’t take those

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Nope he is not kidding.

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Nice to get Oden to the bench early.

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Al needs to stop fading away

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Hawks taking jump shots again

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How the F*CK is that not a foul on Portland?

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shawty trippin…

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What the Hell type of ticky-tack foul call was that????

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yeah, and that looked like an obvious foul to me…..have to see the replay on that one, even though Josh ended up on the floor.

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we might see a little of Collins tonight folks…

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Ok, now we get to see Horford at PF spot. I noticed he has the ball out by the 3pt line on his first possession on offense…hmmmm

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Marvin got rake across the arm and no foul call…. my goodness

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Were’s the foul!!! Marvin got hacked!!

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finally a call

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This team doesn’t know what the hell they’re doin

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I think Big Al could out hustle Big Oden. He should try that.

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You know how Allen Iverson, after a great game, says the basket looked like an ocean?

This is the exact opposite of that.

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Big Ray,

Your 10:28 post, I was thinking the same thing…

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Hawks just look so out of their league against good teams.

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Melvin ,

Deviant, sarcastic minds think alike…lol….

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Indeed they do. Nice to see our bigs get the ball like that, especially coming off the bench. Keeps the JumpShot University relapse.

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ok this team is horrible

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Thank you JJ, WTF was that

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Bone and J.J.M.,

Are you two the same person?

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My goodness, Our starters shot 3-16 in the 1st qtr…

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Love him or hate him, we were missing Josh out there.

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No we are not the same

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Here come Woody shorten the bench again. Refuse to play Teague after he had a good game against the Lakers…

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Crawford!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep co sign Sekou on the running. Yep out hustle them.

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Mo Evans with his overaggressive dumb defense…

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Mo Evans giving more of a tough defensive effort than we saw from him last year. I like it. OOps, did I give a role player a bit of credit? How crazy of me…

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ZaZa Peculiar …such a talent

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giving away points switching that…

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Crawford attacking, Oden in foul trouble. Nice!

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Thank you Golden State for sending us a jewel in Jamal Crawford. We would be down by 20 if it wasnt for him….

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Woodson’s only talent as a coach is arguing fouls

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There’s only one guy in this game with more rebounds than Marvin, and that’s the monstrous Greg Oden.

‘Nuff said.

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I would love to see Teague in this game. Not only would he run and attack the basket, but with Woodson’s brilliant switching defense scheme, Teague couldn’t do any worse than anybody else when he’s matched up with Outlaw or Aldridge. Heh….

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So let me get this str8. Woodsons playing JJ all these minutes now that he ain’t doin sh.it. And wont bring teague in at all. Man u gotta be kidding me man

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Shut up, Nate.

Y’all got a freebie on Josh’s second foul, payback’s a biatch. STFU!

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Now half of you where taking up for the other night. Why not tonight?

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Woodson just isn’t cut out to be a HEAD coach in the NBA, he should try it out at a high school level program…like UGA Basketball

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good set up Joe…

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more of this line up…

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Big Ray Woodson doesn’t seem to understand that we play the best that way

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Yes, Josh!

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Call him soft if you wish….Aldridge is an all-star.

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This is the Hawks best lineup on the floor right now.

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J-Smooooooooooooooooove …so silky smooth with the behind the back drib………….nah

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Awful sequence for Joe and Josh. He gets fouled on one trip, no call.

Second trip, Josh tries a new dribble move and nearly loses it, bails himself out with a pass to Joe, who clangs the 3-ball.

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Joshua Randolph (fire Mike Woodson express)…

bruh.. since the Laker game u keep addressing me as if i am a Woodson fan, check some archives or keep it moving…

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wow… travel clear as day…

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Joe trippin…

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JJ is killing the offensive rhythm

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Rathbun is right, Joe is pressing a little too hard.

Great effort by Jamal on the boards. He’s carrying us all the way around. Anybody still miffed about that trade?

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bigdave; all i’ve seen is you kissin woodson ass.

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I didn’t wanna say it but Teague is gonna end up just like Acie. Damn u woodson

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Teague is getting the Acie Law treatment. Have a good game and get a DNP the next game as a reward…

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The hawks are showing some heart right now. They were down by double digits early and have fought their way back, just dont die in the third quarter like in LA.

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Man, what I would do to be in that huddle and learn from a mastermind like Woodson

I bet all he did was draw an arrow to the basket and say “lets get the ball in here as many times as possible guys. That way we can secure the win, and that’s all that matters”

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BONE,

No, he’s not. The team is behind him, the organization likes him, he’ll make it just fine. And he’s too confident. It’s just game 4 of the season, he’ll get his shot. If this continues to happen for the next several games though, I’ll be banging that drum right next to you, man.

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Whew, after the 1st qtr the Hawks have done a good job to go into the half only down by 1pt. Then again, do we really want them to listen to Woody halftime speech?????

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LMAO @ Mac-Town

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Do we have any plays where Joe can catch and shoot in rhythm coming off a screen. Perhaps that would get him going. Sometimes you run a play to get a player untracked, as opposed to shooting stand still 3’s. Some would call that coaching.

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lol@mac

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Did anybody notice that Carmelo Anthony is averaging 37.7 ppg? Dam_

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Man this Marvin is such a clown. I want everybody to look at Travis Outlaw’s game and look at Marvin’s. Night and day. What could our team be with Outlaw instead of this #2 bust that we overpaid for.

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LOL. Funny stuff Mac.

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Much like the Laker game, the Hawks are hanging in this game because of free throw shooting. They are not rebounding any better than Portland and they are shooting pretty poorly, but being aggressive has kept them in the game. Of course, we all know what happened in the 3rd quarter of that game, but hopefully they can maintain their aggressiveness in this 3rd quarter and keep this thing close until the end.

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I dont know what this dude Sam is talkin about…….marvin could have EASILY been confused with Dominique on that high flyin dunk attempt earlier……

….if it wasnt for somethin called gravity

marvin walks like a butt pirate….thats good enough to trade him for me

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Teague plays well one game and no minutes so far in the next. Ive seen this before.. Crawford and Pachulia kept us in this game. Josh started to warm up when he got back in. Joe looks terrible out there. I really wish we would stop this switching defense. Good game so far.

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Sam from the Swats,

Good to see you back. There are a few more people who actually see how bad Marvin is now.

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cp..you hit it right on the nose. This Woodson needs to play Teague and stop the b.s. with the rookies.

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hahahaha marvin does walk funny

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get ya ass up Bibby and contest a shot… damn that flopping…

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bigdave; we agreed on something.

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ay seriously where is teague this isnt right

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hahahahahaha

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SEKOU-I’ve been complaining about us needing to run and become an uptempo team for the last 2+yrs. Woodson just isn’t a gametime or thinking coach. He doesn’t recognize matchup advantages or disadvantages, therefore he doesn’t make gametime changes or adjustments.

He seems to get involved in the gm more as a spectator than as a HC. You put Smoove and Horford on the move up and down the court and Oden, Aldridge and Pryzbilla will all be at a disadvantage.

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Horford needs to start getting a little more aggressive on offense. Bibby drove inside on that last possession and left Horford with the ball about two feet from the hoop, and Horford kicked it out instead of taking a simple turnaround hook, leaving Joe with a tough shot. I know his post moves are not yet there (they need to develop pretty soon) but he’s not going to get better unless he takes those shots.

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we look so good when we run

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I like the way the Hawks have started the 3rd qtr….

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Sorry, let me rephrase, he doesn’t like playing rookie guards. I need to ask a question, when is Josh and Joe going to get some respect out here. They have to have blood drawn before they get a foul…gee whiz!!

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Nothing personal Dominique, but can we get Steve Smith back?

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Josh we don’t need ur jumpers

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lol…marvin

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well people let’s start the cout down until Woodson is fired.

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Hawks crumbling again

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Wow, even Martell Webster looks more like a player than Marvin..

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too bad crawford wasnt in the game to counter….we need his offense out there

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this commercial just pissed me off. It made the hawks look like a good team

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Greg Oden’s atleast 37

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Man GET BIBBY THE HELL OUTTA THERE AND PUT TEAGUE IN. BIBBY AIN’T DONE NOTHIN

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Good block Smooth.

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LMAO!!!! @ Mac-Town, try 47!! Today’s youth go through so much. Man this Josh Smith for the bonehead moves he makes at times, this dude is one of the best defenders in the league.

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Love or Hate Josh. The Kid make plays…

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“Good reach around”, says Bob Rathbun. He should call games with Chip Caray.

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If the Hawks really do go as Josh goes, it’s because of things like that. The only time the Hawks push the tempo is when they force turnovers, and most of the time it’s Josh who is forcing these opportunities by blocking shots and getting in passing lanes.

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Yeah Josh!!!!!

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Smoooootttttthhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Josh Smith came to play tonight….

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He’s putting Marvin in for Bibby. Are u serious

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Crawford looking like SuperFlip on that play.

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Jamal is the man

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That third quarter turned out terrific, after it looked like it might end up another disaster.

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Jamal was sent from Heaven straight to the Hawks backcourt.

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How many folk would prefer to have Flip Murray over Jamal Crawford now????

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They should let 8-12 wear suit and tie! No need for them to shower after the game!

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what the _____ was that???

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Clean block by Joe Smith…

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The vets made that play happen. Nice tip out by Zaza, and great job swinging the ball around by Joe Smith and Jamal. Jamal has been incredible in this game. If Woody would give him significant minutes regularly I could easily see him being a leading 6th man of the year candidate.

Mychel, I can’t take credit for that, haha… I definitely saw others using that name for him when the Hawks announced the trade this summer.

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WHERE THE HELL IS THE D….PEOPLE KEEP LOSING THEIR MAN!!!!!!!!

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6th man. Hell, Crawford needs to start.
Bibby
Crawford
JJ
Josh
Al

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SuperFlip!!!!

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JJ,WTF!!

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man wtffffffffffffff

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Nice move

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@Big Ray, then if Josh is out, who defends a rebounds. This guy is all over the court…yeah Josh!!!

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THIS IS THE HAWKS TEAM I PAID TO SEE THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Stop crying Marvin and score some points. By the way good block.

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smh big ray i thought u liked josh

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Josh Smith posts up a smaller guy in Brandon Roy and scores with ease…hmmm.

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No way Big Ray. Josh is playing some ball.

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The ole Perimeter D will be tested now. Hawks need to step up.

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The Hawks come out of the timeout and run iso Joe on the first play. Predictably the Blazers come down and shoot a 3 on the other end.

I don’t get it.

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Josh is gambling

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Jamal take over the game please. Joe can’t do it.

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Man this game is craaazzzyyyy. I don’t know if I can handle this man lol.

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Ken,

I would put Crawford at PG and Bibby at 2 guard for spot up jumpers.

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eewww…

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SuperFlip!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Damn, when Crawford is on he is fun to watch.

Of course, when he’s off I’ll be cursing him for taking a shot like that.

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why give it to Josh give itto Jamal DAMN

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tenacious d….

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nice game

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Why in the Hell do you want to take JS out of the game. He make bad mistakes then he come back and play ball. Let’s Go It’s ON..

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J-Smoove is Aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! Man when this dude is on, his game can be mind-boggling.

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These are two evenly matched teams. not quite good enough for elite status but very young exciting and on the way up. Great match up.

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bullsyt bibby

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If my dog dosn’t stop scratching himself?!!

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I’m not the Marvin hater most people here are, but there is no way Marvin makes that shot.

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bibby gotta get out…

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I just want everyone to see Outlaw….Marvin would trip over his feet if he tried to do a step back jump shot. Bring back Chills, and send Marvin to Europe…

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This game tonight shows you how valuable J-Craw is and will be this season. Holla!!

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takeover J Hova…

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Bibby sucks…

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JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Atlanta Hawks People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wow josh has to have more then 2 blocks

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Quality basketball!!

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All the way turned up!!!

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Joe shoot the ball….

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Boy I would love to replace Marvin with Outlaw.

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You know it was me Samuel and they told me I was crazy.

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dem damn Hawks…

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@Samuel yes, some people on here still think Marvin is as good as Granger..

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wow… what an adjustment on Roy

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Woody haters I guess its Woody fault that we won. I wonder whats next JJ played too many minutes..

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Joe and Jamal need to start together from what I see

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Joe has played 44 minutes all becuz Woody has somethin against teague

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Do you realize how much better our team would be if we had any kind of production from the starting 3 position? Just put Mo Evans in there, you can’t do any worse. I think I’ve figured out the politics. Larry Drew is an assistant and played at UNC if I’m not mistaken. He’s probably vouching for Marvin because Marvin played at UNC. Marvin is horrible. GET RID OF THIS CLOWN PLEASE!!! He shouldn’t even be in the league.

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@Big Ray. Did Josh come back and make you proud or what?

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And yea the minutes do matter becuz we travel to Sactown tommorrow

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Observations:

1) Pryzbilla shoulda been in in the 4th

2) JCRAW IS THE TRUTH. MY HERO
3) MARVIN SUCKS. HIS OFFENSE STINKS
4) tHAT 4TH QTR LINEUP WAS DISGUSTING FOR US. JOE CRAW HORF SMOOVE BIBBY. WOW

5) START CRAW AND LET MARV COME OFF BENCH

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Sac-town and Charlotte are easily winnable games — both those teams are struggling big time. A 3-1 road trip would be real nice heading into Saturday’s clash with Denver.

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Smith had at least 4 blocks not two and he surely had more than 3 steals. The Hawks stats crew needs to start doing that to their opponents.

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Wow yea, I guess the bangwagon will be filled again by noon tomorrow lol.

Observations:

1) You Marvin and Woody haters never cease to amaze me.
2) Jamal should start. I think Marvin would be better suited coming off the bench.

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why are we bashing marvin ppn this blog? where was teagye 2 nite?

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JeJe: It doesn’t matter if he starts as long as he finishes. On the other hand if he starts then maybe T.Tea. can get some bench min. I’m
happy for Woody and I’ve said all along if he’s successful then so is the team. We still need a force to be reckoned with around the hoop on defense. I’m talking about to contend, not just maintaining status quo.

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Joshua Randolph (fire Mike Woodson express I’m an idiot yet you cant spell simple words such as “waste”. Dude sit down somewhere..

Like I was saying, good game. Great win. If Marvin keeps sleepwalking on the court then he will be on the bench during crunch time like he was tonight. Crawford and Pachulia were huge off the bench. Joe finally found his shot , Horford and Josh were solid. We really need to scrap this switching defense. We looked a lot better playing man defense. Great win tonight.

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Much better 3rd quarter. Good game between two teams that are exciting to watch. Hawks and Blazers are rising in the east and west. Teague didn’t get to see the floor tonight, mind boggling. Okay since the Hawks got their first road win tonight I’m gonna leave that alone. But…..ah never mind.

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Notice how when people stopped talking to “Rod,” “Sam” suddenly reappeared using “Rod’s” favorite word (”clown”) and did nothing but post attacks on Marvin – which is all Rod ever does. It’s a miracle!

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We don’t hate Woodson just some of his game decisions. Well at least I don’t.

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“I’m not the Marvin hater most people here are, but there is no way Marvin makes that shot.”

Outlaw chokes all the time he even choked once at the end of that game and Marvin has hit big shots before its amzaing how little yall remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCLf1-ouFVM

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Remember earlier in the gm when Bibby was in the gm and Portland doubled JJ whenever he touched the ball? They were particularly effective when they got him in the corner. With Crawford playing PG, how many double teams did you see them even come close to trying?

ALERT, ALERT!!! UNDERSIZED, NATURAL PF PLAYING OUT OF POSITION AHorford had another big night outrebounding another 7′ center. In fact he basically outperformed two 7 footers. (Horford’s stats in parenthesis)

ODEN 7′0″ 285lbs PTS 8 RBS 9 BLKS 0

PRYZBILLA 7′1″ 245lbs PTS 4 RBS 6 BLKS 2

TOTALS PTS 12(11) RBS 15(13) BLKS 2(1)

I read some of the feable attempts to use rebounding demons like CBarkley and DRodman to continue your justification for saying he’s undersized and playing out of position. Well, you obviously don’t have the sense to realize it, but you just proved my point and disproved yours. If you’re going to use Sir Charles(6′4″) and Rodman(6′8″) as examples of outstanding rebounders, THEN HOW IN THE HELL CAN HORFORD AT 6′10″ BE CONSIDERED UNDERSIZED?

Now, I expect some of you to counter with the fact both Barkley and Rodman played PF and not center, like Horford. Well, why didn’t you think of that before using them as examples to try and support your weak A&& position?

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I actually agree with your last post Ken about Horford. You still think Marvin is better than Granger?

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Didn’t I say JJ was a better all around player, but Crawford was better for this team. And didn’t I also say that if he continues to play lights out, we might see the Hawks become less willing to offer JJ a max contract? Didn’t I say we would win the rest of the gms on this rd trip and give the HATERS AND BANDWAGON JUMPING FAKE HAWK FANS nothing to talk about?

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“Outlaw chokes all the time he even choked once at the end of that game and Marvin has hit big shots before its amzaing how little yall remember”

I wasn’t talking about him making a big shot. I was talking about him sizing up his defender one-on-one, making a couple of moves, and shooting a jumpshot that went in. Creating offense for himself is something Marvin is still not comfortable doing.

Like I said, I’m not a Marvin hater, and there are things he does well. But that in particular is one of the most disappointing things about him and probably the main reason he hasn’t lived up to his draft status.

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maybe we should start mo evans instead of marvin. i think starting marvin with JJ and bibby will never work out cause he will always defer to them. And besides we had a better winning percentage when we use evans as our starting SF last season. We should let marvin come off the bench and become the 2nd scoring option of the 2nd unit. i have a good feeling about this line up.

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Why no love when we win. This is how you evaluate a coach. Win or be competitive in games where we are equal in talent. You can’t fault a coach against obviously superior teams,

You guys talk about adjustments, well who was the coach. Come on say it with me now.

Woody=Coy

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I’m telling you:

We have GOT to get Jamal in this starting lineup. Marvin is just too ineffective. he cannot score the basketball. Our defense is not bad. Just start Crawford and that will piss off Marvin and MAYBE it can get him going.

Also, I must praise our rebounding last night. Wow, we were EVERYWHERE. Why can’t we do this every night?

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Crawford got off b/c joe was the focal point idiots. When kobe got into his chest in LA the other night, he folded like a lawn chair, got ripped a bunch of times etc… He’s a good Robin if JJ’s playing the role of batman.

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Nice win…now, can some of us on here just chill out a little? Some people sounded like Chicken Little after the Laker game. Hawks are going to be just fine as long as injuries do not become a major problem.

Crawford was awesome! And, I believe Joe Johnson kind of took over in the 4th. So, silence, please, to all the Joe bashers out there…

Josh Smith will be an All Star if he plays like he did last night. He didn’t settle for jumpers, played great D, and did not let the refs ruin his game after that BS 2nd foul call.

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Just an observation but even when Woody wins the game he still doesnt receive any credit here. Sometimes we just need to give credit where its due instead of bickering over petty stuff like Teague not getting into the game. I know most people want him gone but why not support the team now and whine about him after the season when the big picture is clear?

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Wins like this against quality playoff teams on the road is a big step for this ball club.

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Its scary to see Joe Johnson with so many minutes already. Woody seems to have forgotten how worn out Joe was at the end of the season and in the playoffs last year. If he wants to blow it again with his mismanagement of the minutes, then he should ultimately pay the price. I just hope he is capable of bringing in a new guard without burying him on the bench after the first week of the season. Only time will tell us this season if Woody is growing a coach or not.

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That’s well said (hawks_4_life), we cry on this blog win or lose. We’re 3-1 and the only lost came from the world champs. JT0 will have his days to play. I am not Woody’s number one fan, but I’m not going to cry over a win.

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Predictions for tonight.
JJ plays less than 30 mins
JT0 , Joe Smith and mo all get quality minutes.

Moral of the story:
Burn your stars against the big cats to win at all costs, then have faith your reserves can deal with the bottom feeders!

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Just watched the game. First of all, I would like to congratulate the Hawks and Woody on a big win. Get down double digits early, hang tough, and come through at the end. How many of these games did we lose last year? Good Job Hawks!

But I do have some comments:
1) Crawford is a baller! (Although he’s shooting 21% from 3)
2) Against the Lakers, Woody takes JJ out in the 1st quarter when he is hot, but leaves him in when he is cold? And JJ played 46 minutes tonight (averaging 37.8 mpg for the season). Plus we have 2 games back to back.
3) Where was Jeff Teague? Teague looked good against the Lakers in the 4th, but DNPCD.
4) Hawks need to run more. ‘Nique said it, Sekou said it, us fans say it all the time. Does Woody know it?
5) Wassup with Marvin? Season average: 9.3 pts, 5.5 rebs, 0.5 assists

That being said, Congrats to Woody and the Hawks. lets beat Sacramento tonight!

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said it on the other blog, good win. woody got them through it by giving jamal burn and not getting in his way. it was crawfords game last night, one of many i predicted when the trade was made. also liked and predicted the line up at the end should be one we see a lot this season especially at the end. i like good “enders” not starters. really good d last night holding them to 91 after they got up by 10 in the first quarter, yup, i like it.

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Jamal can’t guard the 2 or the 3 he is better defender at the point if we are going 2 have a chance woody must coach smarter and realized that bibby is a liability late in the game on defense.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!

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darrell starks,

I think the reason Woody brought Bibby in is because it gives them another big shot maker. With JJ, Crawford, and Bibby, thats 3 guys who can take and make big shots down the stretch.

If Crawford is at the 1, and JJ at the 2, who does Woody put in at 3? Marvin Williams? Mo Evans? I think Woody prefers to sacrifice Bibby’s defense for his offense.

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O’Brien

No matter how you feel about the game last night we got the ‘W’. Woody have have to try different line ups to see what works and what doesn’t work.

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LOL @ Granger being a top 5 player in the NBA. He MIGHT be top 20. What defense does Granger play? Does he create shots for anyone besides himself? He’s a good player, but top 20 in the Association? I agree with Sekou, some/most of the comments on the Hawks range b/w make believe-absurd.

BTW, Marvin’s Defense>>>>Granger’s

-REEcently Roe

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In 30 mpg, Marvin averages 9.3 pts, 5.5 rebs, and 0.5 assists. Its not Marvin’s fault he was drafted #2, or that he is the 5th option on offense after JJ/Crawford/Bibby/Josh.

But he’s shooting 32% from the field, and 33% from 3. Thats unacceptable.

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I disagree with those that think JCraw should start. We need a spark off the bench, last year it was Uncle Flip, this year it’s Crawford. If Marvin hasn’t got it done with the starters, what makes you think he’ll get it done with the second unit. Simply put – Jamal can score of the bench and facilitate others like he did with Zaza last night.

If anything, I would give Mo a chance if Marvin doesn’t wake up.

Go Hawks!

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Kudos to the Hawks on a victory against a very tough team; I called this a character building win because it was EARNED. Portland played well but lost it in the final minutes primarily because of our defense intangibles and unexpected rebound advantage. Crawford played extremely well and at a level that matched the hype that has been surrounding him. I’m giving a special Kudos to Zaza for also playing well after I had been very critical of his previous performance against the Lakers. Beyond his obvious physical limitation, I had forgotten about the intangibles Zaza brings that make him so special; his grit, determination and heart. I don’t apologize for my previous comments but I will give him credit in this game. It’s amazing how these aforementioned intangibles can overcome most limitations.

Something else after last night victory I had also forgotten about. Sund last year comment about emotional reactions from the Hawks wins and loses. He said it is best not to get TOO HIGH from a WIN or TOO LOW from a LOST as it a long season. As I have been reading some of these campaign-like bashing related comments about individual Hawk players, maybe we should all pause and embrace Sund’s wisdom. Making constructive criticism is one thing; but it is conflicting to HATE A HAWK PLAYER while claiming you LOVE THE TEAM. You know you have a conflict when:

1. Subconsciously your greatest joy is to witness the total demise of an individual Hawk player.

2. While the fans are down after a lost; you are overly excited to see how bad your hated player looks.

3. While the fans are excited after a win as the case last night; that’s peanuts compared to a particular poor play by your hated player.

4. Your greatest fear will be to witness an outstanding performance by your most hated player. It would be awkward and impossible for you to pay him a compliment.

As we get further into the season, these emotions will be harder and harder to hide. Ultimately you have to make a choice of what’s more important; Hawks victories or validation of a previous position.

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Marvin Stinks…sit him, blah blah, blah……everybody cannot score twenty every night, he gets on my nerves too…but he our best on ball defender and he rebounds very well, yep he didn’t light up, but his length helps this undersized roster rebound on a nightly basis. check the stats, we don’t have a 13rpg guy on the roster, his 6 to 8 are big, thats why he is on the floor, if he’s picking his spots and adding 16 points to the mix, great, but rebounding and defending is his job…I gurantee that nobody on that team is looking for 20 fron Marvin everynight..everybody is critic on here i see

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Hey Sekou,
Any word on JTO? Why didn’t he get any minutes….I know its not time to worry, but is he in Woodys doghouse already? Anyone else have an answer?

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On the topic of Jamal starting; Manu Ginobili comes off the bench, and
S.A. seems to do quite well. I’ve been around long enough to remember
Havlicek. 6th man yet an all-star/hall of famer. Both examples; they
play/played the 4th qtr and finish the game.

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I agree with REE-Roe we don’t start ME with a healthy MW

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Tonight is a different type of challenge. The back to back road game after a huge road win, dont fall for the trap. We will find out if this team is mentally tough.

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I can’t believe I’m gonna say this…but I agree with darrell

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WOW thanks nire.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

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Mz. Hawkdafied has a problem with the rotation and minutes last night. Somebody, anybody help me understand why a team with improved depth only plays 8 of the 13 players on it’s roster with one player logging 45 minutes? Call it nitpicking or whatever you want but an inquiring mind would like to know what’s the deal on the real folks.

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darrell something worked including bibby working to aggravate on defense. they didnt outscore us in the end, we made some stops so all must be included in the win including woody.

funny, i might agree with rod on this one, marvin might be more of a liability last night than bibby against the blazers during the waning moments or the other option mo evans. it worked out so give credit where it is due. save the detrimental remarks for when we lose. now if stackhouse were on the bench then maybe i would criticize not having him on the court, but sadly he is not.

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JC bailout MW this time. No offensive scheme…

Little or no preparation for the BIG STAGE GAMES!!!

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Sekou, are you leaving the AJC? They are advertising for a Hawks writer!

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Ken Strickland, if you think Marvin can be as effective as Granger with as many touches, you obviously know nothing about basketball. Comments like that really make me SMFH

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Here’s an idea:
1. J. Tea.
2. Joe
3. Josh *more on this later.
4. Al
5. Zaza
_________

BENCH:
Jamal
Bibby
Mo
Marv
Joe Smith
_________

* A long time ago, LSU had a football unit known as the Chinese Bandits.
Not PC today I reckon, but my point being, 2nd unit would be
versatile with no set pos. Just play basketball. Come in wreak havok,
have fun.

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In reference to Crawford’s starting at point guard:
In addition to the argument(s) advanced above, the question of replacing Jamal’s scoring off of the bench has been raised. My response is as follows.

First, Bibby’s long range shooting skills and veteran savvy could be emploed to fill in the “scoring gap”. My preferred solution ,however, would be to have Marvin come off of the bench. I see that as a more conducive circumstance for his skill set and temperment.However, that solution might require some personnel moves that some including the current incumbant head coach are not comfortable with.
Maybe Jason Collins can get out of the doghouse and contribute to the resolution of this issue?

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Ree-roe,

Go back and read my post, man. I said I was NOT in favor of starting Mo, even if he DID start for the Magic in 07.

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Marvin is who he is. I’m not knocking the dude, I just would like to see more out of him. It wouldn’t hurt to see if he could be more productive off the bench but my earlier statement still holds. Crawford should be our number 1 option off the bench.

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Sekou, I’m assuming you are on the road with the team (sorry if you mentioned that earlier). How are the new guys blending in? It may be too early to tell but this is an important part of developing chemistry. Maybe you could give us an article about what their off days are like on the road, when you don’t have a major topic to cover.

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…..AND JASON COLLINS TOO.

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