The morning after
The Hawks' frustrations were fueled by their own mistakes against the Lakers Sunday night at Staples Center.
LOS ANGELES – It probably feels just as nasty this morning as it did last night, that taste in the Hawks’ beaks after the Lakers kicked dirt all over them.
How a two-point game mushrooms into a 24-point rout in a matter of minutes would normally require CSI-level examination.
But not where the Hawks are concerned. The anatomy of their latest road debacle is similar to so many of its predecessors.
By now you know the routine. The Hawks trade punches, they make a decent game of it until things go slightly awry and the sky starts falling. The fall began with their disastrous third quarter, when the Hawks started handing the ball over to the Lakers like they were ordered to by the LA County Sherriff’s office.
And they wouldn’t stop giving it up. Play after play, they just kept turning it over. Josh Smith got his hands dirty, Al Horford, Jamal Crawford and Zaza Pachulia did, too.
The meltdown on the bench soon followed, with players shouting back and forth about the sloppiness.
The Lakers didn’t need the help. But they were happy to take advantage of the Hawks ineptitude and immaturity.
They piled up 12 fast break points in the third quarter alone, an 18-0 run ensued and the Lakers ended the game a good 20 minutes before the final buzzer sounded.
“We were so sluggish with the basketball, throwing it all over the gym,” Hawks coach Mike Woodson said. “They had a lot to do with it because they got up on us defensively and we went the other way.”
It didn’t help that the Hawks’ momentum early was halted by a head-scratching substitution. Joe Johnson was on a tear in the first few minutes of the game, piling up 18 points on 7-for-8 shooting, when Woodson inexplicably pulled him from the game with 2:39 to play in the quarter. For all the times we’ve moaned and groaned around here about JJ playing too many minutes, this was not the time to interrupt his flow. The playing rotation be darned, let the man shoot until he missed five straight. He stays on the floor until he misses, right?
Not this time.
Lakers star defender Ron Artest deserves a lot of credit for holding Johnson to just one field goal the rest of the way (Kobe Bryant certainly had no luck slowing Johnson down), but in hindsight, that quick and unexpected hook from Woodson seems even more perplexing after the fact.
“I’m not the coach of this team and I don’t decide who goes in and who comes out or when they do it,” a still upset Johnson said after the game about his groove being interrupted. “That’s beside the point. We didn’t fight at all in that third quarter. We just let things get out of hand and didn’t take it on ourselves to man up and defend the way we have to. You saw it, we just let them punch us in the face and we didn’t stand up for each other, we didn’t help each other at all. That can’t happen, not against a good team or any team. That just can’t happen.”
It did, like it has many times in the past for this team.
And the Hawks took yet another shot to their pride and profile on the big stage.
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jerrywest
November 2nd, 2009
12:44 pm
Sekou,
This year Josh decided to adjust to the crowd.
On the road, the crowd cheers when he shoots a jump shot, and boos when he dunks.
At home its the opposite.
jerrywest
November 2nd, 2009
12:47 pm
Woody refused to adjust, as usually.
Ry
November 2nd, 2009
12:48 pm
I agree with four important things that others have posted and I am sure most thought: 1. Joe Johnson – obviously coaching mistake there, pulling him out in the middle of an absolute scorching hot streak. Not defensible. 2. Josh Smith – why is he still shooting from near the 3 point line. Did you not learning anything this off season. 3. Teague – looks like he should definitely play more, but some of it could be that the Lakers were playing less aggressive with such a huge lead. 4. Marvin Williams looks completely lost and is not contributing much to the team.
Coach Woodson seems to mismanaged the team quite a bit during games. Some of the mistakes are so clear to fans, not sure why he can’t see it (or Sund for that matter). I can see why most analyst put the Hawks 4th in the East, that seems about right. They don’t look much better than last year and the Coaching seems to be getting worse.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
12:48 pm
Just FYI: Teague had the highest +/- stat of the night with +8.
Chick Little
November 2nd, 2009
12:54 pm
The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling!!!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sekou, Has the AJC ever done a study of number of blog posts after a win or loss for the Atl teams? I would assume that the action on the blogs are greatly increased after a loss.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
12:56 pm
And I meant highest +/- stat for the hawks
JeJe
November 2nd, 2009
12:59 pm
Chick Little,
It has nothing to do with if we win or lose. These are blatant faults with this team.
Marvin stinks, Joe is not a leader, we call no plays, and our forwards are too small to guard anyone. How is this knee-jerk reacting?
Ken Strickland
November 2nd, 2009
1:01 pm
I’ve noticed there have been numerous comments about HC Mike Woodson’s coaching decisions and his limited OFF. These are the same comments I got criticized for making so many times over the past 2yrs, and it led to me being called a WOODSON HATER.
We’re 2-1 after only 3gms into the season and the BANDWAGON JUMPING FAKE HAWK FANS are already in full swing and advocating the team be dismantled immediately. These clowns seem to think all Sund needs to do to solve all of the teams problems is immediately force opposing GM’s to take whoever we want to get rid of in trade for whatever they have that we want to acquire.
Somehow, within their extremely limited scope of reasoning and/or reality, immediately acquiring new players will somehow magically transform Woodson’s limited OFF system into something that exceeds the Lakers famed triangle OFF. It appears when we play teams with weaker DEF’s, our talent is sufficient to overcome our OFF limitations. However, as we saw last night, when we encounter a team that can apply consistent DEF pressure, our talent isn’t sufficient to overcome our limited OFF system. That’s why it always ends up breaking down and we see us reverting to the ISO’s and individual one on one play.
In defense of Woodson’s decision to remove JJ, which I’m not saying I’m supporting, since his teammates weren’t ready to take up the slack, the outcome would have only been delayed by leaving him in longer, not changed. Woodson needs to stop blaming the players for the consistent failure of his limited OFF system, which the rest of the NBA obviously sees as a joke. He needs to put his stubborn ego in his back pocket and get someone with an actual OFF IQ on his staff immediately, if not sooner. It seems Woodson’s only willing to make adjustments or changes if and when he’s forced to do so out of circumstance, rather than through recognizing and accepting the need for it. I still like some of the adjustments he’s made so far, but they’re abviously not enough.
It’s truely revealing to see some of the same staunch defenders of HC MWoodson, who attacked me for criticizing him not so long ago, going out of their way to attack me for supporting Marvin.
Pd
November 2nd, 2009
1:02 pm
Sekou did you hear how Joe called the team “SOFT” defensively him included in the locker room interview? It was interesting to hear him use those words.
Duke
November 2nd, 2009
1:02 pm
Woodson was trying to give Joe some needed rest, he knew it would take an energized Joe to win this game. It’s not Woody’s fault Joe didn’t come back in and make shots. He doesn’t shoot for them too.
ray
November 2nd, 2009
1:10 pm
You can generally attribute most Hawks’ losses to three people: Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Mike Woodson. This was again the case last night. Each of them has a low basketball IQ. And Yogi Berra’s famous quote about his sport holds true also in basketball: 90 percent of this game is half mental.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:10 pm
Duke YOU ARE WRONG. VERY WRONG. When u got the hot hand like JJ had u are running on adrenaline. U don’t need to go to the bench. Stop defending that idiot of a head coach. It is Woody’s fault that JJ didn’t come back in and hit shots. Goin to the bench stiffened him up.
cdog
November 2nd, 2009
1:15 pm
this is a joke. the hawks are going to be there in the finals in the end.no one in the nba this season is going to go undefeated. this the NBA, not college or high school. the lakers along with shabby officiating won on their home court. when they come to atlanta, the hawks is going to drill them so whats the big deal here about losing to them on their home court. the season is still early.
Mz. Hawkdafied
November 2nd, 2009
1:15 pm
People who are saying the Hawks had no chance of winning the game anyway must be tripping. I fully disafreakingree. The Hawks had every opportunity to beat the Lakers. As a matter of FACT everytime the ATL Hawks step foot on the court they have a chance to be the winners. Just think about it, the Lakers didn’t beat the Hawks, they beat themselves with all the sloppiness, bad decisions, mental breakdowns, whatever, you fill in the blank. The Hawks were right there with the Lakers in the first half and the beginning of the second half. Like someone else mentioned the Hawks made a comeback in the 4th quarter with the adjustments the coach made by bringing in other players and mixing up the starters with the reserves. The Lakers coach saw the Hawks making a comeback and brought in the one known as the closer, Black Mumba, Kobe Bryant. The problem was it was too little to late. Even though the game was over Kobe ended up with the last rebound of the game. I don’t remember who he won the rebound over but Kobe was looking like this ball is mine. HE GOT THE LAST FREAKING REBOUND. HE HAD THE BALL IN HIS HANDS AT THE VERY END OF THE GAME. NOW I SEE WHY THEY CALL HIM THE CLOSER.
JJ included himself when describing the problems of the team. He said WE! I clearly heard him say WE! Jeff Teague ended up being that spark that the team needed. Just when the Hawks were finally getting it back together the time had run out.
Next up my fantasy finals Hawks vs Blazers. Johnson vs Roy. Can’t wait. GO HAWKS!
Hawk n the Ham
November 2nd, 2009
1:15 pm
Hawk n the Ham’s highly thought out and not freaking out over a loss starting lineup.
1. Jeff Teague
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Joe Johnson
4. Josh Smith
5. Horfy
chemdawg
November 2nd, 2009
1:17 pm
Hawks are talented this year, but in this game Crawford took too many shots, Zaza coughed it up too many times, and Josh Smith clearly didn’t work on his jump shot in the offseason. It’s such an awkward slow release.
Hawk n the Ham
November 2nd, 2009
1:19 pm
Also, have you noticed how both the Magic and Lakers go straight at Horfy to start games? The coaches know Horfy is out of position against the bigs. Too bad the we couldn’t get that starting center in the offseason.
Mz. Hawkdafied
November 2nd, 2009
1:21 pm
Why do some want to rebuild the team? Do you realize that may mean waiting another decade to even see the playoffs again? Count me against rebuilding the team.
Hawk n the Ham
November 2nd, 2009
1:23 pm
cosign Mz. Hawkdafied
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:26 pm
We don’t need to rebuild the team we just need to fire Mike the woodpecker Woodson and trade Marvin Dckbutt Williams.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:26 pm
Duckbutt*
The Truth
November 2nd, 2009
1:27 pm
Marvin is a rhyme shooter who starts off playing too fast. Maybe he is just too overly hyped. He is rushing his shots and rushing his moves. He can’t take what is not there drawing offensive fouls. He needs to better read the defense, move better, playing inside and then out. He is playing the way he has been taught in Woody system; standing around as a pedestrian. Perhaps he needs to start as the utility role first with put-backs lay-ups and dunks before he open-up his outside game. This was the role of Josh Chill; perhaps he would be more effective starting this way. That may get him in sync and a better feel for the game. Marvin struggles were enhanced because the Lakers only gave him the outside jump-shots when he got the ball (like others he was cold as ice). He still has not fully exploited his size advantage at the SF position playing inside. Bringing him off the bench may backfire since he is not the instant offense type. At UNC, he played under a different system compared to Woody ISO system. Also Marvin length makes up for our already small frontline. If he does nothing else, we need him to help with rebounding. But I also agree, at 7.5M, we need more.
Daniel
November 2nd, 2009
1:30 pm
Wow, Guys it was a tough road loss to the defending champs who were coming off a beating at home. I hate the way we lost, this is the exact kind of loss that I was talking about all summer as a real guage of this teams progress. Sure the Hawks get beat in LA, but do they have to look pathetic doing it? I will count this one in my column of blowout losses even though techinically 8 points is not a blowout. We need to see less of them this year. But, there is WAY TOO MUCH overreaction here. Calm down people.
JeJe- your 21 points may not be “knee jerk” to you, but they clearly reflect an emotional point of view that doesn’t demonstrate much practical basketball knowledge. I would think more of your points if they were “knee jerk”
Sekou? Look JJ was hot, he also got his second foul in the first quarter. That is why he was taken out. Hindsight says he should have stayed in, maybe. How about Joe plays 39 minutes ends up with 34 points and we still lose the game by 4 instead? Then you are saying Woody is wearing down Joe too early in the season.
BTW- There is more of an offensive system going on than iso Joe, you guys obviously have no idea what you are talking about and just keep parroting something you read.
The team played soft, immature and turned the ball over, that’s it. It is not rocket science. I think it is good that Joe was pissed about the game and himself. They all should be.
JeJe
November 2nd, 2009
1:30 pm
Joe said “we” but that doesn’t mean the brunt of the criticism is on him .I want him to say “I”!!!!!!!!
And I heard rumors Phil Jax may not have started Artest because he had been sucking the first few games. When was the last time Woody EVER changed the starting lineup because people were UNDERACHIEVING?
Oh wait, what else can we expect from a Small Forward who watches Spongebob, goes back to UNC in the summer to get his African American Studies Degree, and works out with Sean May.
Losing to the Lakers is one of the most painful sport events of the year for me. Watching Kobe celebrating with his teammates and everyone on our team looking dejected makes me freaking miserable. We better play with some attitude at Philips when LAL comes to town
hawks_4_life
November 2nd, 2009
1:32 pm
This is going to be a long season and there will be games like this along the way. Let’s not forget it was the defending champs we took a beating from not the Thunder. What we need to do is grow a backbone and toughen up. Also it may take a while for the chemistry to develope as far as Crawford and Teague is concerned. Some people here was throwing in the towel during the off-season, some in pre-season, how about we wait until we see some consistency develope first (for better or worse). Lets face it no matter how upset you get this is the team we are running with this year and while everyone is entitled to their opinion, this team needs our support too. In a way i felt the 13 win team got more support judging by some of the messages being dropped.
JeJe
November 2nd, 2009
1:33 pm
We just need to destroy Portland tomorrow (minus Aldridge), destroy Sacramento, win a tough road game at Charlotte (who stinks), and then win a tough one at home vs.Denver. I think we can do it. Woodson REALLY needs to consider not starting Marvin though. I’m not even trying to hate–Crawford is a THREAT and gets our offensve moving when he’s with Joe and a PG who knows what he’s doing. Marvin just hides in his cuckoon and shoots a jumper or loses the ball.
I’m out for now.
Peace
Grandad
November 2nd, 2009
1:34 pm
Yes, Im with ken, This mess is Woodson’s fault. He has to make Hoford a better player. He has to make zaza a better player. He needs to put on a uniform and get in the middle a play for the hawks. I think he should lead by example. Stop whining that we are soo soft in the middle. Woodson suit up and get in there! Show us how its done. So heres my line.
JJ and crawford in the back court
josh smith and Ken Strickland as the forwards
and Mike Woodson as the center.
I got peter pan pachulia and alice in horford land on the bench along
with sugar sweet marshmellow soft sautee in the back court.
Lets shake things up.
hawks_4_life
November 2nd, 2009
1:35 pm
In other news who is bushwackers on the sekou bloggers fantasy basketball. You kick $#$ this past week.
mountain_jim
November 2nd, 2009
1:38 pm
Sorry if this has been said, but at halftime I switched over to the Lakers coverage of the DirectTV free preview and they thanked Woodson for taking Joe out, said that changed the game in the first half.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:39 pm
Ya’ll are just not getting it. What offense does Woodson run since u all are soooo smart. What besides the “dribble dribble and dribble some more then shoot” offense has he run. Is it a variation of the triangle offense; or wait is it a type of motion offense. Huh what is it. Even the experts say they have to stop that dribble dribble and shoot sh*t. Man I am convinced that many of u have ever seen AN ACTUAL OFFENSE IN ACTION BEFORE. Becuz if u have u would depise woodson as much as I do.
Daniel
November 2nd, 2009
1:41 pm
Hawks ‘n Ham’s lineup “not freaking out”
start rookie point guard against other teams starters
have Crawford be the back court defender against other teams best players.
move Joe to a postion where he loses his size advantage, making him less valuable.
That line up is a mid second quarter, start of third. That is NOT a starting line up. Terrible suggestion.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:41 pm
ever=never in my above post.
26 years of ATL Hawks
November 2nd, 2009
1:42 pm
Regardless of the blog points above it all comes down to team defense, rebounding and running a turnover efficient offense. The Lakers killed us on the offensive boards, limited us to one shot most times and didn’t turn the ball. That leads to them winning and us losing. Why must we shoot shots outside our range and not in the flow of the game? It’s true for every player. Drive the bucket, get a good shot and then get back and control the paint and boards. Al & Josh acted like Andrew Bynum was Shaq of old. He’s a skinny punk, not a beast down low. Just imagine how badly we would’ve gotten whipped if Gasol was also in the mix. We played with no heart, no fire and thus got embarrassed. Hopefully they’ll come back with fire in the next game. It was lacking last night.
Daniel
November 2nd, 2009
1:43 pm
BONE- He runs pick and roll, pick and pop, a motion flex and standard two man game. So what are you confused about? Oh, you mean you don’t know what is going on in the game.
O'Brien
November 2nd, 2009
1:44 pm
Sekou,
It is clear the Lakers were sending Bynum at Horford, and Horford wasnt scoring either. Where is Jason Collins? He is a legit 7 footer, and he plays some D. Is he hurt? Any ideas as to why we havent seen him yet?
Also, I liked how the Lakers game plan was to take advantage of the mismatch with Bynum/Horford, and they went to it time and time again. Thats what I want to see from Woody. When we play a team over which we have a mismatch, we should exploit it over and over again.
And thats one thing I like about Paul Johnson. He makes adjustments at half time, and when one play is working, he will run it over and over agin, until the other team stops them. I agree with Ken that Woody needs an offensive coordinator. Sund (behind closed doors) should have
told Woody to hire an offensive assistant.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:55 pm
Whatever Daniel. U just need to know one thing there is a really good reason why his contract wasn’t extended and ur gonna find out the rest of this season. I hope u don’t cry yourself to sleep when find out ur beloved mike woody woodpecker is fired. I have to commend the ownership for not giving Woodson an extension. I’ve never hoped somebody would be out of a job but that has changed I want woodson outta here asap.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
1:57 pm
Woodson doesn’t have Billy Knight to blame for his shortcomings anymore.
Mz. Hawkdafied
November 2nd, 2009
1:59 pm
According to nba.com, the Lakers turned the ball over 15 times vs the Hawks’ 19 times. 26 years of ATL Hawks if you are gonna disregard people’s comments try to come more correct next time. Yeah and most comments above have stated the Hawks’ defincies as far as rebounds and defense is concerned. Joja Boy please no more Detroit references please. The Hawks are not the Detroit Pistons from back in the day.
Daniel
November 2nd, 2009
2:00 pm
So now it is “whatever” Bone? I don’t have any emotional investment in Woodson, I just want this team to win. His contract wasn’t extended because Sund was just hired as GM and wanted to assess the team at the end of the year. I am just pointing out that he does run an offense, you may not like his offense but he does run one. You can say that it is Woodson’s responsibility to have this team display more heart, determination and maturity. Those are actually the reason the Hawks lost. But, you assesment is just wrong… sorry, whatever.
Sund
November 2nd, 2009
2:05 pm
I am the offensive co ordinator and Im going to put Woodson in the middle and trade horford for ken Strickland and zaza for sautee. If got to get that middle toughter. Ken, bring the bubba crew with you.
Truth-Serum
November 2nd, 2009
2:06 pm
Daniel Good postsssss
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
2:08 pm
So Daniel do u think Woodson has the Hawks playing to their strenghts or to their weaknesses?
MBZ
November 2nd, 2009
2:09 pm
The proximate cause for last nights loss was the turnovers, and the lack of energy an focus in taking care of the ball and on defense. The ultimate cause however is the inability of our front line to generate offense. Josh Smith simply cannot generate offense in the post when the opposing team has long athletic active defenders. What would this game have looked like if Gasol was playing? I am a committed fan, and don’t think that we should panic, but their are significant structural problems with our offense and a lack of intensity on defense. Josh and Marvin are invisible. There is no way you take out Johnson after his tear. All of these things fall, at least partly, on the coach
hawks_4_life
November 2nd, 2009
2:15 pm
And now for your viewing pleasure, I present AIR TEAGUE, the future of whats to come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKS0Xii9tQc
Mike is back
November 2nd, 2009
2:21 pm
I watched all but the third quarters of the game. I left briefly at half time when the Lakers were up by one…by the time I got back at the end the third Quarter we were down by 22…I said WTF…he we go again. However, there was a different this time…they did not give up…they made the Lakers starters come back in and finished the game. No, I am not accepting mediocrity…contrary to most belief ATL fans despise losing like everyone one else…but you got to support the guys that wear your colors…it was obvious that the Hawks have better support cast coming off the bench. That is the one caveat I took from the game. Not ready to hit the panic button. This is the first regular season game I have seen, so I will try to remain positive.
The biggest problem I seen besides Josh going back to his bad habits is that Marvin remains passive when he’s on the floor with JJ and Bibby. Marvin needs to be the star of the second unit…he will always defer when he is on the floor with JJ and Bibby. Put Marvin on the Second…make him the first option…then I think we will see more aggression out of Marvin, which leads to my comments about Woody.
I agree with OBrien 10:43 am post. Woody has routinely pulls guys in the past when they were on fire. It’s as though has a substitute pattern that he relies on regardless if the guy has it going. He is still reluctant to play is reserves save for Crawford and Teague. That will not work against the elite teams in the league. You got ten fouls to use between RandMo and Collins on Bynum…I do not remember seeing either guy in the game. Also in the fourth quarter when Teague had it going…I thought that was our best match up going down the stretch of the fourth quarter when the second unit got us back in the game. Clearly, Teague was too quick for Fisher. I would have ridden that match up until Phil made an adjustment.
If the first unit goes into their typical swoon…don’t hesitate get the second unit in the game…try to close the flood gates before the game gets out of reach. That is my only complaint about Woody this early in the season. Start playing the reserves…especially Bigs…so you can develop some confidence in them. Other than that, I think what Woody JJ, and Al said was accurate and on point regarding the debacle that took place in the third quarter. The defense was clearly lacking. I like what I heard from JJ…I think the guys will respond.
I love the kid JTO…he is fearless going to the rack…I would insert him into the game whenever the team starts going into one their lethargic funks. He is special!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hawks_4_life
November 2nd, 2009
2:24 pm
Mike is back
What did you think of JTO’s dunk on Odom?
GeeMack
November 2nd, 2009
2:38 pm
Bone,
The easiest thing to do is blame the coach. Here are the thing we know; this Hawks team has improved each year under Woody. He has managed to get this team back to respectability without a bonifide superstar (sorry JJ is not a superstar). Also when the Hawks play defense the way Woody teachs they are successful. Look at the Bos series in the playoff, last year on the road in Miami when we needed a win & last year 6 & 0 start. These were al a result of the defense Woody teaches.
Woody is in the same position Doc Rivers was in 2 years ago in Bos. although Al Jefferson & Kendrick Perkins are much better than Al & Josh. You put better players around PP and the losing stops. If you give Woody better talent. The results will be a lot better.
26 years of ATL Hawks
November 2nd, 2009
2:38 pm
Know in advance I support the team and want us to win. Can’t believe a few folks were knit picking my comments about turns. Did you miss the 2nd half meltdown? Sloppy offense and sloppy, lazy defense. We got in that hole quick. Ugly to watch. The only bright spot was at least we fought back. You can’t spot a decent team 20 in the 2nd half and expect to win, much less when they have rings. You would’ve thought Kobe & Lamar lead the league in rebounds watching the end of the game. Can’t anyone box out? We gotta put this behind us. There’s no reason we can’t finish the month 13-4. Let this one burn boys. From the coaches to the last man on the bench. Let it burn deep. We need that fire to get sparked. You can’t wine for respect if you never earn it. We’ve got the pieces, we just gotta make it happen.
BONE
November 2nd, 2009
2:45 pm
GeeMack it wasn’t becuz of Woodson the Hawks record improved. It’s called natural progression. The young players got more experience so of course the records would improve. Woodson has held this team back by not playing to their obvious strenghts which is pushing the tempo. Like Mz. Hawkdafied said the hawks need to stop trying to be like the old pistons and be theirselves. Woodson is part of the problem not the solution.
Mike is back
November 2nd, 2009
2:47 pm
hawks_4_life , awesoooooooooooooooooooooooome bro!!!!!!