Business (trip) as usual

Don't let the beautiful views fool you, this is a business trip for the Hawks.

Don't let the beautiful views fool you, this trip to the left coast is a business trip for the Hawks.

LOS ANGELES – Jeff Teague’s Halloween costume aside, the Hawks are here in my favorite city for one thing and one thing only; business.

This is a business trip that they’ve been looking forward to since the NBA schedules were released in the summer.

And believe me, I’m as guilty as anyone of falling in love with the sights and sounds of this weather paradise (that’s sunset at Venice Beach above, courtesy of Hawksville’s resident suit man Big Kuntry) and forgetting, even if it is just momentarily, that there’s work to be done first.

The business starts at Staples Center today against the defending champion Lakers and weaves through Portland (Tuesday), Sacramento (Wednesday) and concludes dangerously in Charlotte (Friday), a place the Hawks haven’t played well dating back to last season.

That’s why, in my estimation, this is such a crucial stretch of the early season for the Hawks.

Too many times they’ve departed the friendly confines of Philips Arena and seemingly lost any semblance of order, swagger and just plain know-how that they’ve shown on their home floor.

Seriously, the one thing the Hawks have yet to conquer during this rejuvenated stretch of the Mike Woodson era is their road game. Those 16 road wins from a year ago kept them from being among the league’s elite; by the count of most of those in the know a legitimate big-time squad wins 20-plus away from home. We’ve talked at length around here about the Hawks’ failings on recent attempts on the big stage – from the Cleveland series last year through the preseason finale on ESPN against Orlando.

The Lakers, and to a larger extent this road trip, present an opportunity for the Hawks two right all those recent wrongs. Win two or three of these games and perhaps it’s a bit easier to classify this team among the best (or at least the teams legitimately challenging for that seat at that table).

I am more convinced than ever that the Hawks are on the path to greater things. I don’t know what other conclusion you could make after watching them rise from the depths of their 13-69 ashes of five years ago. But I need something to erase any doubts that may linger. I need to see the Hawks rise up to the challenge that this road trip presents. That doesn’t mean I expect them to breeze through this thing undefeated and pile up six straight wins to start a second straight season. I just need a resolute effort against the two teams they’ll face to start this trip. Compete like a team that’s serious about stomping with the big dogs and it’ll be a lot easier for us all to think of the Hawks in that regard.

THE LAKERS MATCHUP

The Lakers will be without at least one of the main cogs of their championship puzzle for tonight’s game. All-Star big man Pau Gasol was ruled out of the game with that hamstring injury that has plagued him throughout training camp and the early part of this season. I’d suggest that’s a good thing for the Hawks … until realizing that the Lakers are deep enough and talented enough that it’s not going to make a huge difference.

In fact, the Lakers match up just as well against a team like the Hawks because they’ll have a smaller and arguably more athletic lineup to match up against the their visitors from the east with Ron Artest, Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum across the frontcourt.

Marvin Williams will have his hands full tonight dealing with Artest, and probably Kobe Bryant at times, on the defensive end. I imagine Joe Johnson will see quite a bit of both of those guys as well, particularly Artest on defense. But Marvin can’t sleepwalk (as he says he did in Friday’s win over Washington) through the first three quarters against the Lakers and the Hawks expect anything but disaster.

They’ll need everyone engaged from start to finish if they’re trying to do what the Mavericks did the other night in knocking off the champs on their own floor – and something tells me the Lakers won’t be interested in suffering consecutive home losses now or at any other time this season.

Again, this is a game full of intriguing matchups that require our magnifying glasses.

By the way, in case you missed it, my esteemed colleague Steve Hummer authored a fantastic piece on Hawks’ sixth-man Jamal Crawford that requires reading.

FOOTBALL SEASON IS OVER AROUND HERE

Again, football season is over around here folks. It’s done. Finished. Over with.

Gabriel Smith and the Smyrna Spartans go it in Saturday! Now football season is done. (Photo credit belongs to Mrs. Z))

Gabriel Smith and the Smyrna Spartans go it in Saturday! Now football season is done. (Photo credit belongs to Blogette Z)

I’m not just saying that because Michigan has fallen off the cliff (witness the devastation of our latest disaster, a 38-13 waxing at the hands of lowly Illinois) or because Gabriel Smith led the Smyrna Spartans to a smashing finish to their season Saturday in the mud (an 18-12 overtime win over South Paulding in which he opened the Spartans’ scoring with a 90-yard jaunt up the sideline and finished it with 12-yard scamper in the OT. It was a good day and major props to another esteemed colleague and the Spartans’ coach, one D. Orlando Ledicheck). It has nothing to do with the Bulldogs and those black helmets (personally, I thought that was a fresh touch, even if the Gators weren’t particularly impressed) or the fact that Georgia Tech is on a collision course with the BCS (I wish Michigan had hired Paul Johnson).

It’s just time. We’re a week into the NBA season. It’s time to get on the basketball bus.

It is November.

So by decree of the man soon to be formerly known as Blog Z, it is officially basketball season from this day forth … at least around here.

COSTUME MADNESS

We’re still investigating the Ladybug outfit Teague was forced to fly in on Halloween. There’s no doubt it was part of a rookie ritual that the youngster will never forget. And since there is photo (and rumored video) evidence of this hilarious sight, we won’t allow him to forget it either. As soon as one of his teammates give up the goods … uh, I mean our investigators can locate the footage, it’ll be planted here for the enjoyment of all.

Don’t forget, Hawks-Lakers tonight live from Staples Center. I know you’ve got to work in the morning and you might not stay up to watch the whole thing. But the blog will be live and hopping throughout.

493 comments Add your comment

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:22 am

Our problem is momentum. Once we get going in one direction too hard, we stay going in that direction.

I don’t think pulling JJ suddenly caused us to start having all of these turnovers. But it did disrupt the offensive flow. Ride the hot hand while you have it, create opportunities from that.

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:23 am

“anytime marvin and josh get the ball is a turnover waitin to happen with such bad ball handling

Uhhh…that certainly doesn’t explain the first two games, but whatevah….

hawks_4_life

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

Finally a call, thanks refs

cp

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

Wake me up when Marvin makes an impact. We could pay Gerald Green a million dollars to do what Marvin does. Ive tried to support this kid but Ive come to the conclusion that he is what he is. Woodson still has no offensive strategy. I don’t know what Woodson says at halftime but from now on maybe he should sit on the bench while the team goes to the locker room.

J.J.M.

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

wooooooooooooow

bigdave

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

he does that shyt every drive…

BONE

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

What did I tell ya’ll that Magic game wasn’t no fluke. I’m glad I don’t listen to the idiots in here. Ya’ll are too optimistic

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:24 am

Big Ray that’s all i’m saying it disrupt the offense. Of course t/o had nothing to do with it.

Mychelfromatl

November 2nd, 2009
12:25 am

One more thing. We’ve had to witness this 3rd quarter ass-woopin, and tomorrow we witness the Falcons D get lit up by the “Who Dat” nation. Good God.

Officially,

Goodnight folks.

ZULU

November 2nd, 2009
12:25 am

At least the Spartans don’t seem to be afraid to get down and dirty. While visitors admire those mind blowin’ sunsets. The Lakers are running the L.A. version the triangle with dogged agression.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 2nd, 2009
12:25 am

A soon as we start talking all-star appearance for Josh Smith he lays an egg like this. The whole team is playing disgusting – still no heart on the road.

keno

November 2nd, 2009
12:25 am

@macaroni tony…Joe was definitely cussing ZaZa’s azz out. Those turnovers are terrible.

O'Brien

November 2nd, 2009
12:26 am

Another turnover, another dunk.

I’m glad this game is not on national TV, and its on late, because as a Hawks fan, I am embarrased again.

Melvin

November 2nd, 2009
12:26 am

Too funny, i swear the Refs call a foul on ZaZa before he even touch Kobe.

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:26 am

Joe Johnson has scored only 4 points sense the 2nd qtr. What a dick Woodson is.

Jody

November 2nd, 2009
12:27 am

The Hawks will have to SERIOUSLY improve the front court before they can be taken seriously in this league. They have no post prescense at all in addition to being undersized. The goods teams know that if you attack the basket against the Hawks, the will come undone.

Grandad

November 2nd, 2009
12:27 am

When Joe was hot you leave him in for a while at least until he misses a shot. You should not take him out just for a (predetermined) 1 foul rule.
Woody should turn a back flip, throw a chair, get T’eed up, something to protect his players.The disparity between the no call on Al and the phantom call on Kobe was asppaling.
Turnovers = lack of funamentals. Some would say coaching.

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:28 am

Bone ,

Glad to have you. Nothing a bunch of idiots likes more than the addition of one more idiot. :)

Jody

November 2nd, 2009
12:28 am

When your offense is all perimeter, turnovers shouldn’t be a suprise.

Time to Go

November 2nd, 2009
12:29 am

Uhh….whenever marvin and josh get the ball……it looks like the dribbling you would expect from most centers…..HORRIBLE ball handling (you can’t deny that)

Looks like the same ol’ hawks….I dont give a crap about the first 2 games…..they started 6-0 last year, so what? I’m talking about their play since they’ve been in the league.

Just like some other poster put up a couple minutes ago…”The are who we thought they were”….and thats a team good enough to make the EASTERN conf playoffs but not compete with the big boys.

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:29 am

This game doesn’t show just how bad we are. It shows how far we have to go in becoming more than just a good team.

It also shows how you can’t have miscues against the very best teams. Any team that waltzed into the Staples Center and committed this many turnovers, while losing focus on defense, will get beaten like this.

ANY TEAM.

ant banks

November 2nd, 2009
12:30 am

the next mf i hear talkin’ bout the hawks and any seed above the 4th, i swear will get a cyber slap. psychologically, this loss will be in the hawks head for the whole west coast swing and they will lose in charlotte and return back to phillips 2-5. smf

Rod from College Park

November 2nd, 2009
12:30 am

cp,

I tried to tell ya’ll that before we gave him 8 million a year. You going to tell me that Matt Barnes, or Jerry Stackhouse couldn’t give us the same production?

TRAINWRECK,

Isn’t it gay pride day today. I’m sure there is some party down by Piedmont Park that you could be at rather than bringing the homo stuff to the board.

JeJe

November 2nd, 2009
12:30 am

1) Can we please bench or trade Marvin Williams? I am not even being a hater. I’ve never seen such a pathetic mockery of a player in my life starting for a playoff team. Dominique says Marvin is having a bad game — um he does this garbage every game. He’s frail, awkward, timid, weak, cannot do anything when his shot is contested, and he sucks

2) Did I not call JJ going back to his cuckoon in the 2nd half? Leader my @$$. He does nothing for this team. All he cares about is himself.

And go let Sekou’s blogs tell you how wonderful and amazing this team is, but we all know this team didn’t win sh!t last year on the road after February (go look it up) and that we run no offensive plays and Woodson is a mediocre coach.
Get ready for #4 in the East and another 2nd round exit

BONE

November 2nd, 2009
12:30 am

Big Ray please tell me u didn’t just call me an idiot?

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

Time to Go ,

Okay. You’re right. Hawks suck, two wins in the regular season mean absolutely nothing, and the future is already told.

So kick rocks already. Why are you still here?

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

Mike Woodson had NO game plan coming into this game. No defense, bad offense just pitful.

Blast

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

LA getting away with basketball murder right now. They can’t seem to do no wrong in the eyes of the refs. Hawks lose this game and maybe lose to Portland also. They still have time to salvage this early road trip, while LA plays 20 something games at home to start? Who makes the damn schedule, anyway?

ant banks

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

AND QUIT REFERIN’ TO JJ AS AN ALL-STAR. HE HAS BEEN MAKIN’ THE ALLSTAR TEAM BY DEFAULT!!!

Time to Go

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

The average hawks fans care more about Josh Smith’s high flying dunks and being called the “highlight factory” than actually becoming a top tier team, that wont happen with Marvin and Josh being starters in your line up. Don’t worry though, it’ll come together just give them 5-6 more years lol!!!

J.J.M.

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

this is why joe didnt sign that contract

Grandad

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

appalling- I don’t know what the heck asppaling means.

JeJe

November 2nd, 2009
12:31 am

Front court sucks @$$. Did we have one post presence bucket tonight? LOL. LOL @ Woody taking out Joe with 2 minutes left in 1st when he’s Red Hot and not putting him in till like 6 minute mark of 2nd

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 2nd, 2009
12:32 am

Woody is our worst coach since Lon Kruger. Garbage playbook, he should burn and hire an offensive coordinator or QUIT – like his teams always seem to do.

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:32 am

Bone ,

Nope. Sure didn’t. Just like you didn’t call anybody here and idiot. :)

“I’m glad I don’t listen to the idiots in here. Ya’ll are too optimistic

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:32 am

Joe looks pissed on the bench.
Woodson made no adjustment in that 3rd qtr

J.J.M.

November 2nd, 2009
12:33 am

lol are they cryin?

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:33 am

Gotta love some of the “fans” around here. Lose one game to the world champion, and it’s time to fire everybody and burn them in effigy in the streets. Heh….

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:33 am

Lon Kruger was also a idiot.

Big Ray

November 2nd, 2009
12:34 am

Josh Randolph ,

He SHOULD look pissed. These guys let the game get away from them entirely.

O'Brien

November 2nd, 2009
12:34 am

Woodson made no adjustment at half time, but in his defense, when guys are turning the ball over, it doesnt matter what play you draw up.

Time to Go

November 2nd, 2009
12:35 am

You cant be a TOP team when your team is made up of role players that dont even know or stick to their role most of the time….

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:35 am

BIG RAY: Woodson should have been gone. And the only reason why he hasn’t been fired is because the spirted is to damn cheap and was in that lawsuit.

ant banks

November 2nd, 2009
12:35 am

BIG RAY,

it’s how they are losin’ not the fact that they are losin’. these mf ain’t got no heart on the road.

Samuel

November 2nd, 2009
12:35 am

Come on guys, wake up. It was good while it lasted but let’s be honest. We’re not in the same league as the Lakers. They’re playing “monkey in the middle” with us and Gasol aint even out there. Our front line is too small, period. And why did we sign Collins over Siler?

Bash Woody for playing JJ too much and Bash Woody for sitting him. WOW.

Cuz, Michigan fans deserve this. They fired a guy with a 122-40 record.

Joshua Randolph (fire mike woodson express)

November 2nd, 2009
12:36 am

Mike Woodson set him after his 18th point bro.

bigdave

November 2nd, 2009
12:36 am

folks come on here looking to (word) fight on a damn basketball blog. talk irrelevant shyt, and want people to respond to it…

BONE

November 2nd, 2009
12:36 am

Enter your comments here

JeJe

November 2nd, 2009
12:36 am

Great. We have 3 backup guards and 1203 backup bigs so now that all our backup guards are in and we don’t have any more reserve guards. Great idea to have Collins and Morris and Othello. They’re doing wonders for our team! Let’s only have 3 backup guards so we can burn them out before the next game!

BONE

November 2nd, 2009
12:37 am

Big Ray I was talking about the people who defend Marvin and Woody. If u fit in that category then so be it.