http://dimemag.com/2009/10/tim-donaghys-book-excerpts-are-crazy/#more-23063

I dont care what I have to do, I WILL get my hands on this Book.

Ken Strickland

October 28th, 2009
11:57 am

I’M DEFINITELY BOTH READY AND EXCITED ABOUT TONIGHTS OPENING GM!!! Starting tonight, all of the things that’s been said about the Hawks and MWoodson, both good and bad, will playout. I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD LUCK TO BOTH HC MIKE WOODSON AND ALL OF THE HAWKS THIS SEASON. I hope you and the Hawks make liers out of all that have voiced doubts about you and the team, including me. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT THAT IT’S HARD TO CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE A LIAR, KEN, WITH MALICE INTENT.WE ALREADY KNOW THAT. IT IS NICE TO HEAR ANYTHING POSITIVE COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! FOR THAT I APPLAUD YOU, IM SURE THAT WAS QUITE CHALLENGING FOR YOU. GOOD JOB!
I EXTEND MY HAND IN A OFFER OF TRUCE, LET’S AGREE TO LET THE SEASON PLAY OUT BEFORE FINALIZE OUR CRITIQUES. LET’S LET THE SEASON PLAY OUT AND SHARE COMMENTS POSTFACTIOUSLY.

Just a reminder…..

Monitoring the voice of ignorance

October 27th, 2009
8:39 pm

“When you have no inside game you have no choice by to try an score outside. One thing is for sure….You aint getting Sh!t out of Horford and Zaza. Hamburger and his helper.”

OOPS!

Horford: 24 and 16 with 4 ast and 2 blocked shots!

And that, my friends, was against 7′ 2″, 278 pound Roy Hibbert.

Actually I’m SURE that truth-serum is pleased to be wrong, at least for tonight.

And IF (and that’s a HUGE if) Al can do this consistently; I’ll wager that he’ll win truth-serum over. How could he not?

BIG UP’S TO SAUTEE AND HIS ALI SIS- LOL

YOU ARE RIGHT MY VERBAL CHALLENGE TO THE HAWKS ORGANIZATION TO ADDRESS OUR LOW POST WEAKNESS IS WROUGHT IN GOOD WILL AND HOPE FOR A HAWKS CHAMPIONSHIP. TO BE A CHAMPION YOU HAVE TO THINK LIKE ONE. I HAVE NIGHT CLASSES SO I MISSED THE FIRST HALF BUT THE BOX SCORE SHOWED GOOD NUMBERS FROM HORFORD. MY INSISTENCE IS THAT THE POINTS NOT COME FROM GARBAGE PUT BACK, FOLLOWING SOMEONE ELSES MISS, BUT FROM CREATING HIS OWN SHOTS AND OFFENSE. THE REASONING IS THAT DEFENSES HAVE TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO OFFENSIVE THREATS AND OPENS THE DOOR FOR AN IN AND OUT GAME.. GARBAGE BASKETS ARE NEUTRALIZED BY BOXING OUT AND FLOOR SPACING. THE HAWKS AND WOODSONS NEEDS HORFORD TO COMMAND AT LEAST ONE MAN BE ON HIM AT ALL TIMES IN ORDER FOR THE OFFENSE TO FLOW. THAT WASNT THE CASE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE. WHEN I DID GET TO THE GAME I SAW A LOT OF FOLLOWS AND PUT BACKS, TRUE, BUT IT DID LOOK LIKE HE WAS THE BEAST IN THE POST AND THAT HE WOULD MAKE THEM PAY FOR LEAVING HIM UNATTENDED. HAVING SAID THAT, LETS BE REAL, WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PACERS HERE. I BELIEVE ‘YOU’ MAY HAVE LOOKED GOOD AGAINST THEM, SAUTEE.
ON THE FLIP SIDE, SAUTEE, IT SEEMED THAT DURING THE THIRD QUARTER WHEN THE PACERS WERE STILL IN THE HUNT, WHEN EVER THEY NEEDED A BASKET THEY TOOK THE BALL IN THE PAINT, TO THE POST, AND SCORED. NOT GOOD@! WE NEED TO DEFEND THE POST LIKE IT’S OUR HOMES. TEAMS NEED TO FEAR GOING IN OUR POST AND CHOOSE TO SETTLE FOR OUTSIDE SHOOTING. EVEN IF THEY GET LUCKY AND HIT THOSE OUTSIDE SHOTS, I WILL BE HAPPY THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED THE RIGHT WAY.

A WIN IS A WIN! TO THE WHINERS WHO ARE SAYING ITS ABOUT TIME WOODSON WENT 10 DEEP…. WELL YOU HAVE TO HAVE TEN DEEP TO PLAY TEN DEEP. THIS ISNT THE BOYS CLUB OF AMERICA WHERE YOU PAY AND THEREFORE SHOULD PLAY. THIS IS HIGH STAKES BASKETBALL. WERE TRYING TO WIN HERE.IF YOU WANT TO SEE JOHNNY RUN JOIN THEY “Y” LEAGUE.

IT’S NICE TO SEE WOODSON HAVE 10 DEEP TO RUN WITH. ACTUALLY THE TWO DNP’S ARE DECENT PLAYERS TOO.

TWO WORDS: SHELDON WILLIAMS…GO FIGURE! DID SOMEBODY LIGHT A FIRE UNDER HIS BUTT?

SAUTEE, ITS JUST ONE GAME. YOU ARE RIGHT. I WANT CONSISTENCY. I WANT HORFORD TO BE ABLE TO CREATE HIS OWN SHOT AGAINST ANYBODY OUT THERE. THAT’S HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO UP HIS GAME, NOT WOODSONS. WOODSON WILL CALL ON HIM. IT’S UP TO HORFORD TO RESPOND WITH RESULTS

DID JJ PLAY 39? WHOSE TEAM IS THIS? I THINK THIS IS STILL JJ’S TEAM! IF YOU WANT TO KEEP HIM YOUD BETTER RESIGN WOODSON. JJ IS THE THREAD THAT KEEPS THIS FABRIC TOGETHER. HE IS SWEET IN THE PAINT.

BY THE WAY, SAUTEE, IF HORFORD DID LOOK GOOD, LETS ACKNOWLEDGE WOODSON, AS YOU REMINDED ME ITS WAS HIS COMMENT THAT HE WOULD WORK WITH HORFORDS TO DEVELOP A GAME. BY THE WAY I GO TO SCHOOL AT NIGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO ELEVATE MY GAME. MY BOSS DOESNT TEACH MY CLASSES, SET MY CURRICULUM OR DO MY HOME WORK. I GROW AND LEARN BECAUSE I HAVE A DESIRE TOO. I HAVE THE FIRE AND WILL WITHIN ME. YOU CAN’T STOP ME! THAT’S THE ATTITUDE I LOOK FOR IN A CHAMPION. NOT EXCUSES. QUIT WHINING, PLAY BALL! IT’S A PLAYERS GAME

True. Two quick caveats:

1) It takes a certain kind of coach to deal with more than one ego, especially if those egos collide. Is that Woody?

2)It also takes certain kinds of personalities to exist, as well as certain conditions. Pierce/Allen/Garnett all had one thing in common: all three had spent the bulk of their careers being the featured guy, trying to get to the promised land. All three had failed to do it on their own. All three were only too glad to have each other as teammates, as they could help each other to that common goal.

Granger is quite young, and is only in his second year of being “the man” on his team. Is he ready to give that up or share it? How about Joe? He’s been “the man” for several years now, but does this relationship work, and does this work better for the team than the role Marvin plays? Consider that with Granger on board, Josh and Al suddenly get fewer touches…don’t they? Granger is a scorer, not a role player. So somebody would have to take on a role like Marvin’s. Horford is more mentally ready to do that than Josh is, yet we need a low post presence. Hmmmm…

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying I wouldn’t go for that trade. Good is good, and Granger is damn good. All I’m saying is I don’t know how well it would work, and fit accounts for a lot in this league.

But yeah…Granger is Granger. Marvin is Marvin. One guy averages 25 a game, the other doesn’t. One guy is the focal point of his team’s offense, the other isn’t.

More than anything, Marvin-for-Granger makes NO sense for Indiana.

I know where you’re coming from, but I just look at this way, if ya got game, ya got game. Lol. Basketball ain’t brain surgery (thank goodness). If guys like Pierce, Allen and Garnett can play together, then I know Granger and Joe could play together.

Yeah, it will be interesting. We’ll get our butts beat if we don’t play better “D”. Easily.

Kirk ,

Good points, once again. I think we need to exercise a little patience in this regard. Holy crap, did I just say that?

Jody ,

There are no doubts about Granger’s ability, particularly as a scorer. However, having him here means a change in roles. No two ways about it. Based on Granger’s game, if you’re bringing him here, you’re substituting him for Joe, not Marvin. Granger’s role is more like Joe’s. And the two may not fit together. So, really you replace Joe with Granger (though you lose the playmaking ability and defense immediately), though Granger would still have to play the 3, then you put a Marvin-like role player at the 2.

Cool. Glad to know we peacefully disagree. Lol. I know we all want to see the Hawks win. Now, I’m not trying to be funny when I ask this, but didn’t Shaq and Kobe win three titles together?

October 28th, 2009
11:27 pm
Kirkinga,

Sorry buddy, but we’ll just disagree on this one. There’s nothing (if anything) that Marvin does better than Granger. Because of that, I don’t think chemistry would be as big a deal as some try to make it.

If Grainger was 4th option would he look so good? I am still waiting for Bibby to become 7th option.