Injury concerns for Hawks?
Smile Joe, you're rocking the new red jersey my man. And for once, an alternate uniform actually looks good.
HAWKSVILLE – After a reasonably injury-free preseason the Hawks came crashing back to reality Sunday.
Al Horford sat on a corner table with wires hanging from his ankle (courtesy of a twisting in Friday’s loss in Orlando) and Mike Bibby joined him later on wire duty (on his non-shooting wrist) after jamming it during a drill in practice.
That scowl on Hawks coach Mike Woodson’s face, also a product of Friday’s dismal showing against Magic, immediately turned into a look of worry.
Woodson hadn’t planned on either his starting center or point guard being questionable for Wednesday’s regular season opener against Indiana at Philips Arena.
But as of this morning there’s some concern that one or both of them will be forced to play at less than 100 percent against the Pacers.
“Al tweaked his ankle and he tried to go a little bit [Sunday], but he said it wasn’t responding,” Woodson said. “I hope both of these guys are ready.”
Woodson said he would know more after today’s practice, which wraps up early this afternoon (check back here for more updates as the day goes on).
I asked Woodson what he would do if either one of them isn’t ready to play Wednesday night and he admitted that he hadn’t thought about that yet; he’s understandably holding out hope that both will be fine (and in all likelihood, they should be able to play).
But what happens if they do have to sit?
What would you do?
Mario West isn’t around anymore to insert into the lineup on those crazy nights when you need a fill-in starter and want to keep your bench rotation the way you like it. So it’s a dilemma the Hawks surely aren’t interested in having to deal with on the eve of the season.
My easy answer to fix this problem, if it actually becomes a problem, is to go with Jamal Crawford at the point and Zaza Pachulia as fill in starters.
NEW UNIFORMS?
So the Hawks unveiled their new red, alternate uniforms (above) at the Paint the Town affair Sunday, huh?
Funny, I remember seeing these things in the summer. Or at least a very real knock off. I like the red joints. I even like the ATL on the chest (even though I’d have loved to see the Pac-Man logo brought back just to clown). I’d much rather they come with the red stuff than one of those two-tone alternate sets like the Wizards sport or a silver get up like the Mavericks sport every once in a while. And they’re much better than those pale yellow joints that the Hawks rocked a couple years back.
If you’re not a fan of the new stuff, don’t fret. From what I understand the Hawks won’t be wearing these new uniforms much this season.
VIDEO SELECTION OF THE DAY
Injury news aside, Horford is caliente in the streets these days. Not only is he a part of the NBA’s new Hispanic marketing campaign, there’s some fresh video circulating of him being interviewed for CNN’s “Latino in America” series. In case you missed it:
MAGIC REDUX
As you might imagine, the Magic game was the topic of discussion for several observers. The recurring theme was that they were glad the Hawks got smacked around a little bit and that it served as the wake-up call needed for a team that had gotten a little comfortable abusing other teams during the preseason.
“That game was a perfect illustration of what we can’t do this season, against anybody,” one keen observer pointed out. “Orlando is so good inside and out that you have to pick your poison and just deal with it. We doubled Dwight Howard in the first half and did a pretty good job of limiting him but they shot lights out from deep and buried us. After halftime we stopped doubling Dwight and he ate us alive. That was a tactical error on our part. By then the shooters were already in a rhythm and we couldn’t do anything to slow them down inside or out. They just took us apart. That’s what will happen to you against a great team like that, and I don’t care what anybody says, that’s a great team. Orlando making [the NBA Finals] was the worst thing that could happen to the rest of us. They didn’t even need Rashard [Lewis] the other night and they ran away with it. They’re going to do that to a lot of people this year.”
I mentioned that I thought the Hawks’ strategy to play the Magic in a half court game was as flawed as always, only to be reminded that the Hawks couldn’t run with the Magic making nearly 70 percent of their shots during on stretch. But my point remains, the Hawks will never have a half court advantage against the Magic. Dwight is too big and dominant. And Jameer Nelson can probe the defense and find shooters all day long if you’re working just half the floor. The Hawks waxed the Magic to start last season by beating them up and down the floor and forcing the action. I said it then and I’ll say it again, that’s the blueprint they need to use every night. Every single night.
HOT TRACKS
Veteran big man Joe Smith (aka Joe Beast) is a bit of a lyrical star himself, having owned his own record company for years and showing off MC skills some of his NBA brethren wish they had. He’s whipped up an intro song for the Hawks that he played in the locker room after Sunday’s practice that had a menacing sound to it (there were heads bouncing as it played. It had me bouncing, too, for pure clown effect, of course). Seriously, it sounds good. I’m working on locating a bootleg copy of the track for you to hear before it hits the charts. In the meantime, check out this playoff track he cooked up for Cleveland last season:
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I MUS WRITE
October 27th, 2009
4:03 am
Live from the Patty Melt Play Pin!!! Rufus Brown and Jessie Mae Turner will be performing their Greatest Gospel Hits….Songs such as The Old rugged cross,He left me,Down by the river,and a special gospel rendition of the Jimi Hendrix classic “Hey Joe”. Advanced tickets 3.50 and 5.00 at the door
Special Guest; Cattfish Wilson The One Man Band
vava74
October 27th, 2009
4:04 am
Relax: if Woody does not pull it together, he will be out before Christmas.
Right now the team needs support, not hysteric fans. It was just one pre-season game.
Monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
8:27 am
The Hawks have only a second tier allstar in Joe Johnson and a bunch of rejects from other teams, an unproven rookie and a few vets on their last legs. For the last four years this team has been overacheivers that no one expectet to make the playoffs or go very far should by a miracle they make it.To all you who think the hawks are ready to challenge for the championship…
my question is(Thanks Jeff Shultz): Is everybody else seeing something we’re not?
The Hawks won one playoff round last season. How many will they win in 2009-10?
One. (Par.)
Two. (A step up.)
Three. (Going to the finals.)
Four for the title! (Drinking the Kool-Aid.)
Zero. (Still don’t like them.)
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By now, you’ve might’ve heard that several national media outlets have projected the Hawks this season to finish on par or even below last season’s results. Actually, I have yet to find one that has them either: 1) winning more games, or, 2) winning more than one playoff round.
This hit home a little harder Thursday night. I received an email from Bodog.com, an online sportsbook, which does a pretty good job accurately reflecting the feelings in Las Vegas (and I’m still waiting for at least one hotel-casino magnate there to say: “You know. We really blew it with those odds. I think I’m just going to build a nice little Best Western with a coffee shop over here.”).
According to some of Bodog’s prop bets, the over/under on the Hawks’ win total is 44.5, which is a step back from last season’s 47.
The “dis” factor doesn’t end there. Some examples:
♦ Southeast Division: Hawks are 15-2 to win the division, which is third behind Orlando (1-4) and Miami (13-2), whom the Hawks beat in the playoffs last season, and they’re barely ahead of fourth-rated Washington (10-1). Looking for a longshot? Charlotte is 55-1.
♦ Eastern Conference: Hawks are 20-1 to win the conference title, which is tied with Chicago, Detroit and Miami for a DISTANT fourth behind Cleveland (5-4), Boston (2-1) and Orlando (3-1).
♦ NBA title: Hawks are 45-1 to win it, which ranks tied for 11th. (Lakers are favorites at 2-1.)
A few other observations follow.
♦The Sporting News has been previewing each team, one per day, backwards from No. 30. The Hawks check in at No. 12 overall and will rank only sixth in the East, behind — in uncertain order as of today — Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, Washington and, yikes, even Toronto.
♦ ESPN had a panel of 10 each predict standings. Most have the Hawks fourth in the East. Once exception is Chris Sheridan, who tabbed them for seventh. His analysis: “Mike Bibby didn’t look like he had a lot left in the tank last season. I was surprised they re-signed him and thought Andre Miller would have been a better fit. Joe Johnson is entering a contract year. And newcomer Jamal Crawford likes to put up 20 shots a night. Hmmm.”
♦ Sports Illustrated picks the Hawks to finish fifth in the East. An excerpt from an unnamed scout: “I like their signings of Joe Smith and Jason Collins because they needed
size off the bench. Those are moves a contender would make, and moves the Hawks didn’t make in the past.
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
8:38 am
Blake Griffin (Los Angeles Clippers) out up to 6 weeks with stress fracture: InsideHoops.com http://bit.ly/1ggVPK
Guess who won’t be watching the clippers game tonight ha!
clint
October 27th, 2009
8:50 am
Are the pacers at full strength for tomorrow night or do they have any significant injuries. Hope Phillips is packed even on a weeknight and competing with a heavyweight clash in the world series.
Daniel
October 27th, 2009
8:54 am
Good grief guys, listen to Vava, we haven’t even played a game this season. You do have to give it a couple of weeks at least to begin to see what is going on with the team.
Does anyone who is critical of the team have anything new to say?
Al Horford is out of position, Iso Joe is a bad offense, Woody can’t coach, yada yada, yada… None of those points make any sense given the Hawks continued improvement and success over the last three seasons. Find something new to say please.
Truth- you do not find anything new to say, because you really know how to stab it into the heart. I respect your opinion and b-ball knowledge, but dang man your killing me.
Joe Johnson is underrated not overrated, so everyone get a grip.
Here are the issues for the team early in the season, as I see them:
1) How will Woody manage minutes? (so far, pretty well)
2) Will Josh Smith make free throws? (scary!)
3) Will Marvin be more aggressive? (I have no idea)
4) Will this team play with heart and a desire to win? (the biggest question of them all) I can deal with losing as long as they play with heart and don’t look scared or even worse quit!
Go Hawks!
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
9:24 am
Glenn “Big Baby” Davis Out indefently with thumb injury….
vava74
October 27th, 2009
9:27 am
Greg Poppovich about one of the biggest tools achieve success: “appropriate fear”
“It gets more difficult after a win to come back and understand how that subconscious sort of complacency can set in. You can’t allow that to happen. You have to keep an appropriate fear of your opponent so that complacency will dissipate as soon as possible.”
in Bill Simmons ESPN Page 2 – The Sports Guy’s World
The question is:
Did we lose (badly) against ORL on account of lack of “appropriate fear” following the easy victory against MIA or did we lose badly because we had too much fear??
vava74
October 27th, 2009
9:34 am
In my opinion, at this juncture in time, psychological/maturity issues are more important for the Hawks than many others people like to throw around here.
If we win at home and lose away, this means two things:
1. The fact that we win at home consistently (as we did last year), means that our system and our team has enough quality to succeed;
2. The fact that we lose away from home consistently (as we did last year), means that our mental capability and maturity as a team is low and that is the obstacle preventing us from being more successful.
Bad teams, bad players and bad systems suck all the time, not only away from home.
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
9:40 am
Vava, you know. When we win at home, that means the opposing team is loosing on the road that night……it’s a league wide problem for 2nd teir teams even some top teir teams….I agree we have to be stronger mentally though.
As far as Orlando is concerned though, they treated that like a playoff game lol. They won’t be happy to see us in the regular season, I can tell you that much. The guys will be itching for some retribution
Daniel
October 27th, 2009
9:52 am
vava- I agree with your second point whole heartedly. I think we played scared against Orlando. I do think the mental aspect of the game is the biggest issue for the Hawks, now. Hence, my point #4.
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
10:01 am
J-Smoove: It’s on me for We
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjuWUAIpMVc
vava74
October 27th, 2009
10:14 am
Ariose,
Again on the same subject, how many levels do believe exist in the NBA?
My take is that there are 4 tiers with some sub-categories which indicate if teams are going up or down and on account of what (I will not go into subcategories right now):
1. Contenders
2. Playoff teams
3. Purgatory teams
4. Bottom dwellers
I believe that we are definitively tier 2 and that we cannot complain if we do not reach tier 1 this year.
In my opinion, one of the most important factors to break from tier 2 to tier 1 is mental and this quantum leap should be felt within the team as a whole and within some players’ minds.
Maybe JJ is now “mind blocked” and will not be able to take it up to tier 1. This is the 1 million dollar question. I think that the success that opposing teams had double teaming him is now bringing him down mentally and he is sulking.
Josh definitively should try to find some sort of miracle pill to get him to concentrate during games and whilst shooting FTs since he has tier 1 potential (as a 5* all round role player)
Al has the heart and the willingness and in my opinion should get a lot more touches (regardless of the number of initial bricks) making him the no. 2 guy offensively so we could balance our game instead of being just a guard oriented offense.
Marvin also has the tools to do it and I believe that the only thing preventing him from being a consistent inside-outside threat seems to be mental.
Is the above Woody’s fault? Difficult to tell. Sometimes it’s the franchise culture and we should not ignore that the Hawks, as a franchise, are stranded between categories 2 and 3 and it is extremely difficult to break the cycle.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2009
10:24 am
I hope I’m wrong about everything I’m feeling as a result of that beatdown by Orlando. I hope Woodson and the Hawks do a complete 180 and use that gm as motivation to get it in gear and do what needs to be done. I don’t want to see Woodson or the Hawks fail, because being a diehard Hawks fan would make me a part of that failure.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2009
10:43 am
If Bibby is unable to go, who do you think will replace him, or who would you like to see replace him, Teague or Crawford. It would be interesting to see if the Pacers would be willing to double JJ with either of them in the gm. Since the Pacers aren’t a physical team, especially up the middle, would Collins or JSmith be the 1st off the bench to replace Zaza, if he starts.
Daniel
October 27th, 2009
10:47 am
Ken- according to Sekou’s article, Bibby is good to go.
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
11:25 am
Ha!
I’m with you Vava, I’ve talked plenty of times about Amare’s two microfracture knees and his bad eye. Especially when he was first on the trading block and some people around here wanted to trade Smoove in order to get him…..we’d be the worst defensive team in the league if we did that.
I was thinking about JJ last night and about what it would take for him to reach an eletie level. In my thought process eve Danny Granger came to my mind. He is just as athletic (or less) than JJ, but he does something that JJ refuses to do. HE ATTACKS FAST. What JJ doesn’t realize (or chooses to ignore) is that as soon as he catches the rock out on the peremeter; for that split second, HE IS OPEN! Granger realizes this and it’s the very reason why indiana gives us all kinds of trouble. Granger doesn’t TRY to draw the doubleteams to him (neither do most elite players) he is the agressor he gets his shot off AS SOON AS HE RECIVES THE PASS so there is nothing you can do about it. Why doesn’t JJ do this. The guy doesn’t need a whole bunch of time to get his shot off. He’s one of the best shooters in the league. He could literally make jumpshots with his eyes closed. So why does he take so darn long to attack? He waits entirely too long and let’s the defense suffocate him before he even thinks about making his move. Elite players make the defense adjust to them, not the other way around…
Which brings me to my second point. Elite players get to the Free Throw line. This one little fact is why some Hawks fans beleive that Josh Smith will eventually pass him as the superstar for our team. Because players like Kobe and Carmelo attack early and often, they catch the defens off guard and on their heels to the point where thay are so out of position that all they can do is foul.
Heres a perfect Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKx__9FdxOg
When Josh is confident in his Freethrow ability and is attacking like he shouls, he is a nightmare for opposing defenses. All they can do is foul. This is why he ALWAYS comes up big in big bames. His whole gmae is predicated arouund beating his opposing PF off the dribble with his SPEED and finishing at the rim. In the second round of the playoffs last season in game 4, Smoove had 26pts. They couldn’t stop him from getting to the rim so they had to foul. San antonio did this to us late last season, but Smoove was in his FT slump and only had 19pts or so…
If JJ does not make these changes, he will never be elite and he will never be able to take us to the promise land. If you think back to game 7 against the Heat last season, JJ let it fly as soon as he received the pass. HE has to play like that ALL THE TIME. It’s not woody, because Teague and Smoove have not problems with atttacking and getting to the FT line. It’s on him to recognize this and change his ways….Marvin has the same deficancies, he has a gift (drawing fouls by driving to the basket) but he’s not agressive and rarely uses it.
As far as Horford is concerned, I have absolutely nothing negative to say about the guy. He works hard, knows what needs to change about his game and he adapts to whatever situation you put him in. I agree, on a bottom feeder, or even with more touches, he can get you 20/10. Josh on the other hand could get us 20/8 right now if he steps up.
JJ and Mike Woodson are minimizing the amount of touches and potential points that the Hawks can get wtih their Old man style of offense (slow halfcourt grinder). You know we probably didn’t get ONE fastbreak point against Orlando the other night (the Magic may heve tried to do that on pourpose though) and JJ/Marvin didn’t help the situation with their poor decision making (takinf too long to initate th offense/attack and being agressive).
Woodson is not off the hook in all of this. I’m tired of everything being run through the backcourt, especially at the beginning of games (Bad decision making by Mike Bibby….our POINT GUARD) which usually always results in us falling behined by a ton of points early. All of that jumpshooting when the oppositions is fresh and not tired? Of course they are going to capitalize of all of the brick laying we do! The first quater should be frontcourt EXCLUSIVE. Pick N’ Roll basketabll and just attacking the rim in general.
Melvin
October 27th, 2009
11:26 am
Fellow bloggers, I caution you not to push the panic button yet. As someone said earlier, we haven’t played our first regular season game yet. Let see how this team perform after the first 20 games. That should give us a good indication of what to expect from this team. Also, I wouldn’t put too much trust into these experts preseason perdictions. The season is 82 games long and anything could happen such as injuries, suspensions and trades.
I’m prime and ready for this season to start. Go Hawks….
T.C
October 27th, 2009
12:02 pm
To monitoring the voice of ignorance,jeff shultz don’t know nothing about basketball.Hell he don’t know nothing about sports.Jeff is a race bating commentor.
Poot-Ommeter
October 27th, 2009
12:08 pm
Well its important not to let your emotions over come what is reality. This team has a second tier allstar, unproven players, 1-2 years from retirement players, Josh,crawford,Marv, not much else. NO Im sorry this team wont contend for a championship and will at best make it to the playoffs. I love the Hawks but Im also realistic. Hope is not equal to reality.
Just keeping it real fellows.
monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
12:13 pm
T.C That may very well be true, I dont disagree with you. Schultz does have some racial issues. The many professional sources that he listed and qouted are legitmate sources and have voice rational view points. Ive learned over the years to let my rationality govern my emotions and ive been better for it.
98 bottles of beer on the wall.
October 27th, 2009
12:15 pm
fire up the crowd Mr. Daniel!!! Lets get this show on the road. Its almost game time!
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
12:20 pm
Gelnn Davis is going to be suspended:
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=4598533&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_4598533
vava74
October 27th, 2009
12:29 pm
JJ should never be the recipient of the first pass and should be shooting off picks like Rip Hamilton.
If he did this, he would be shooting 48/50% from the field.
niremetal
October 27th, 2009
12:41 pm
And the chance of Woody running an offense that looks like that is…
T.C
October 27th, 2009
12:45 pm
To Monitoring the voice of ignorance,understood.But coming from the source is a little disturbing.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2009
12:52 pm
VOICE OF IGNORANCE-you need to start by doing a little self monitoring. The Hawks won 47 gms, made the playoffs, finished ahead of all but 3 teams in the East and made it to the 2nd rd of the playoffs. As hard as you seem to be trying, you can’t trivialize those accomplishments. Sounds to me like you should be commending, not vilifying the accomplishments of a team comprised of a bunch of overachieving castoffs, over the hill vets and an unproven rookie.
That bunch accomplished more than the majority of the teams in the NBA last yr. Ignorant individuals like you should be spueing your particular brand of venum and dilusional BS on the teams that fell short of what we accomplished. You showed your special brand of ignorance and stupidity when you said JJ is a 2nd tier Allstar. Well, doesn’t being selected multiple times as an AllStar by the coaches and his peers, whether 1st or 2nd tier, mean you’re considered better than the overwhelming majority of the players in the NBA, DUMBAZZ?
Look at all of the teams with so called 1st tier Allstars like DWade, AStaudemire, SNash, CBosh, CPaul, DWilliams, VCarter, MRedd, Shaq etc, that either didn’t make the playoffs, or didn’t accomplish any more, or as much, as the Hawks did during the season and/or the playoffs. YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND MONITOR YOUR OWN BS, CLOWN.
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
12:59 pm
Vava, that is an exellent point. I thought Mike Woodson said he LEARNED something from Lerry brown during his time in Detroit? Apparently it has absolutely nothing to do with offense…..
O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
1:06 pm
Ken,
I agree with you in that our lack of size does not have to be a big issue. The key is how do we utilize our advantages, which is that we are young and athletic, with 4 guys (JJ, Bibby, Marvin, Crawford) who are good shooters. We just have to impose our will on the other team.
If the Hawks would run more, then we would beat some opposing bigs down the floor, and Horford’s lack of size wouldnt be a big issue. Or if we can get Horford the ball in good spots, he’ll be better equipped to make his move. The bottom line (for me) is Woody needs to do a better job of utilizing Al.
Vava/nire
I dont know why Woody is so blind to realize that he should not have JJ initiate the offense. Run some screens and plays for him that will give him a 1 on 1 matchup (or get him some open shot sometimes). When JJ gets the ball early, the other team doubles him, and our other players stand around and wait for a pass, or JJ takes too long to pass out of the double team, and we end up with a bad shot.
I guess Clyde was one of the first to get it rolling years ago, but here we are, 5 years later, and we’re still having the same conversations about Woody.
dap01
October 27th, 2009
1:15 pm
O’Brien: You summed it up perfectly! Woody is so creative! But this year he will have no excuses for the excuses.
The Truth
October 27th, 2009
1:26 pm
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
11:25 am
Agreed with this post; JJ played this way his first year as a Hawk. He was very aggressive. He shot with little hesitation. For some reason, perhaps Woody trained him to use the ISO as a strategy to get his team mates open. This has evolved into the 2-man game between JJ and Bibby. The ISO strategy is fine during spot moments when you’re trying to make the big shots. But Woody uses it like a main course meal. It slows the game down and deprives other team players from participating in the offense. He uses very little pick-and-roll or pick-and-pop. Marvin would flourish in that style of offense. When Marvin gets good looks at the basket and enough touches, he’s quite consistent with his jumper. His off-the-dribble moves however are still a work in progress. There are many great NBA players that had poor off-the-dribble moves; Reggie Miller and even Larry Bird just to name a few. These guys needed screens and picks to be effective. Woody is likely hampering these players by depriving them of what they do best.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2009
1:28 pm
ARIOSE-when comparing JJ with Granger, you have to factor in the following.
(1) The entire OFF system and philosophy we have in place is built around shooting jumpshots and doesn’t provide options for attacking the basket, either with or without the basket.
(2) How many times does Granger get double/triple teamed compared to JJ?
(3) Granger also has the benefit of playing with a quick, fast multidimensional PG that can create driving lanes and easy scoring opportunities for him.
(5) JJ knows he’ll have to conserve his energy because as the designated DEF stopper he’ll have to defend the quickest, fastest elite PG’s that Bibby can’t guard. (6) He also knows he’s going to finish 1st of 2nd in MPG, so he shoots jumpshots, which is our OFF philosophy, rather than attacking the basket and expending energy he might not have.
Wasn’t JJ doing what you claim he’s not doing now when he was teamed up with PG SNash in Phoenix? I’m certainly not saying you’re wrong, I’m just offering some plausible reasons for why it’s not happening.
vava74
October 27th, 2009
2:06 pm
The Truth,
You are right, Marvin would also be deadly if we ran plays for him this way.
Actually, we could have a killer play if we had something designed to feed any of two players benefiting from picks on the same set.
Chingo Bling
October 27th, 2009
2:35 pm
Chingo Bling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2zKMKQ3RSw&feature=related
Sautee
October 27th, 2009
2:51 pm
vava74,
About this:
“JJ should never be the recipient of the first pass and should be shooting off picks like Rip Hamilton.”
“If he did this, he would be shooting 48/50% from the field.”
And vava, why do you think that is?
If Detroit 04 is the model we’re following, then why, oh, why do we not run Joe off of multiple picks?
And imagine the assist opportunities Joe would have in addition to killin’ folks with his mid-range game.
S.p.M
October 27th, 2009
3:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRY6URnn2i8&feature=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxFdHb58ZGU&feature=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6fUYTOm5MA
Lil` Rob
October 27th, 2009
3:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xTVC8VgU1I&feature=related
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
3:17 pm
Ken, Amen. Mike Woodson needs to step his game up. All of the factors you mentioned are a direct result of Woodson’s decision making. I’m growing tired of it…..we’ll see what happens this season.
IND Granger now listed as doubtful for tomorrow night vs Hawks (bruised right heel)
I still think he’ll play though. Bibby played through a bruised heel when we first aquired him…..
Ariose
October 27th, 2009
3:18 pm
Truth, that is so true. Woodson has not been utilizing his weapons coorectly. All I have to say is, Rick is taking notes lol.
The puerto rican
October 27th, 2009
3:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gMZ06eV2CE
Hoops
October 27th, 2009
3:36 pm
Clyde,
The Tide got real lucky Saturday. Mt. Cody saved them! Just sayin’.
monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
3:40 pm
Ken Strickland, Its not that the hawks are so go as much as the other teams are that bad.
Hoops
October 27th, 2009
3:40 pm
The pre-season is over. The Hawks got and needed a wake up call against the Magic. It’s a long season and the Hawks need to be ready to go! Anything can happen during an 82 game schedule. Being consistent and staying healthy is the key!
There will be many adjustments that have to be made to make this season one we will never forget! GO HAWKS!!!
monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
Guns dont kill people, people kill people. In boxing coaches dont get knocked out players do. Coaches dont get blown out…players do. Only on this whining fashionable. Woodson will be here or hell coach some where else. Doesnt matter who is the coach the result will be the same. A second tier allstar+ three nearly retired players+a pack of average guys = an average team. Doesnt matter who the coach is. You cant get water from a rock, elevation from zaza or pure shooting and strong moves from Horford. Go figure.
Shout out to 98 bottles of beer on the wall
shout out to F_CK Sund
monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
3:49 pm
only on this blog site is whining fashionable
monitoring the voice of ignorance
October 27th, 2009
3:50 pm
not that the hawks are so good as much as the other teams are so bad
Sautee
October 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
Shout out to ALL of my aliases. LOL!
tyger
October 27th, 2009
4:17 pm
Stackhouse cont.
Surprised the Hawks cut Garrett Siler – not even a min. wage non-guaranteed K? Doesn’t make sense to me, especially now that Horford is hurt. And after Dwight Howard’s ownership of Joe Smith, it makes even less sense. Joe is not a banger, he’s not going to slow down the 7′0 monsters. At least, Siler could lean on them a few minutes per game, but ….
Did the Hawks just save a spot for Stackhouse is the question? Horford and Bibby are dinged, so the injury train just took off. History shows Marvin, JJ, Josh, Mo, Al will all miss significant time every season. So, why not take a former all-star with some juice left?
Everyone said Vince Carter was done too – and you see how he dismantled us, so doesnt it make sense to have a veteran option on the wing just in case?
Samuel
October 27th, 2009
4:34 pm
2. Trading JJ for Stephen Jackson, a chronic malcontent, who would bring zero defense and who is an offensive black-hole AND Turiaf, an undersized C, a personal foul machine with no hops (I challenge anyone to prove that he jumps any higher than Zaza).
I saw again, chior boys don’t win championships. The Bulls, The Lakers, The Pistons and many others did pretty good with the “so-called” malcontents.
Jack plays no defense. Ask ya Boy “Dirk”.
Turiaf is undersized huh:
NBA Blocks: Per 48 Minutes
NBA Blocks Leaders
RK NAME GP MPG BLK PF BLKPG BLKP48M BLK/PF
1 Chris Andersen, DEN 71 20.6 175 174 2.46 5.75 1.01
2 Ronny Turiaf, GSW 79 21.5 168 243 2.13 4.75 0.69
3 Dwight Howard, ORL 79 35.7 231 270 2.92 3.93 0.86
4 Roy Hibbert, IND 70 14.4 76 215 1.09 3.62 0.35
5 Samuel Dalembert, PHI 82 24.8 146 248 1.78 3.44 0.59
6 Tyrus Thomas, CHI 79 27.5 151 220 1.91 3.33 0.69
7 Marcus Camby, LAC 62 31.0 132 129 2.13 3.29 1.02
8 Jermaine O’Neal, MIA/TOR 68 29.8 136 211 2.00 3.22 0.64
9 Kendrick Perkins, BOS 76 29.6 150 253 1.97 3.20 0.59
10 JaVale McGee, WAS 75 15.2 75 155 1.00 3.15 0.48
Mac-Town
October 27th, 2009
4:36 pm
I agree with ILL-Logical about Atlanta pro sports franchises choking in these big games. I agree, we are progressing but this stings, as people will still ride them of as the same ol hawks and falcons…after choking against traditional powerhouses. We have to turn this around,
I completely disagree with Daniel about the alternate uniforns.
For one thing, ALL the other jerseys have Hawks or Atlanta on the front, I dont see anything wrong with having “ATL” and changing up a little.
It’s unique. How can they be “4 years to late” on trying to be “hip”..??
ATL = Abbreviation or Airport Code for ATL……it’ll never be old.
lol referring to Atlanta as ATL isnt a fad.