Hawks ready for business?

Joe Johnson and the Hawks are ready to battle DeShawn Stevenson and Washington the top spot in the Southeast Division this season.

Joe Johnson and the Hawks are ready to battle DeShawn Stevenson and Washington the top spot in the Southeast Division this season.

HAWKSVILLE – It’s a fair question to ask at this stage of the (pre)season.

And one the Hawks are more than ready to answer, Monday night, when the Washington Wizards come to town for the home preseason finale (the next time you see the Hawks on the floor at Philips Arena after this game will be for the regular season opener Oct. 28 against Indiana).

“I think everybody’s getting anxious for the real thing to start,” Josh Smith said. “It’s not just us. You sense it around the league, at least wherever we’ve been so far.”

The Hawks need the test that will be this game against the Wizards. Hawks coach Mike Woodson has already made it clear that the starter’s minutes will rise in these last three preseason games (all three against Southeast Division foes). 

“It’s time to buckle down a little bit and get really serious about what we’re doing,” he told me over the weekend. “We don’t have any time to waste.”

Whatever the Hawks accomplish this season begins and ends with the work they do in the division. One of the main factors in their rise up the ranks the past two seasons was the injury-driven fall of the Wizards, who have a healthier and retooled roster for Flip Saunders to work with this season.

“We’ve had some good battles with them over the years,” Smith said. “They used to be the team in the same spot we’ve been in the past couple of years in the division behind Orlando. There’s no question them Magic is the team we’re all chasing. So you have to start there and work your way up and that’s what we’ve done.”

Something tells me the Wizards (with Agent Zero, or whatever moniker Gilbert Arenas goes by these days, back to form) won’t accept their current fate willingly, which makes not only Monday night’s game but the Oct. 30 game extremely interesting viewing for all of us.

BIRDS OF A FEATHER

There was some serious bird bonding going on Sunday night at the Georgia Dome. Falcons were on the field. Hawks were in the stands. The nest was big enough for everybody.

As many as half of the players on the Hawks’ training camp roster were making plans to attend the Falcons-Bears game, including Hawks center Zaza Pachulia. ZP was apparently an American football virgin prior to the game. The proof came via Twitter, where he proclaimed: “I’m kind of emberrased to say this but first time in my life I’m going on football game tonight. Falcons vs Bears.I hope I will like it.”

Trust us Zaza, you will like it.

RA’S TAKE ON THINGS

There are few things in life more consistent than the rapid-fire vitriol of our good friend RA when he senses bias from the national punditry regarding his Hawks. He was on fire over the weekend. It seems our friends up north have dismissed his Hawks one too many times and he’s firing back. RA’s latest salvo:

“It was kinda funny.  ESPN, the [Mark] Bradley proclaimed world leader, was previewing the Sourtheastern division and they had three pictures of players on the website, from Orlando, Miami, and Washington.  Sekou!  When was the last time Washington made the playoffs again?  Remind me because I forget.  I also had the privilege of seeing the video interview that Tim Legler had talking about the Hawks.  He said that Atlanta was a second tier club.  That’s debatable, but he also said that there was such a huge gulf between them and the top three teams in the east that it’s impossible to rank them up there with them.  Well, that’s just hooey.  I’ve watched a lot of basketball Sekou, and I can tell you without reservation that the greatest strength of the “big three” is also their greatest weakness.  They all run through and for one player.  Just hear me out.  Orlando, Dwight Howard, need I say more?  Vince [Carter] might help with the scoring but the bottom-line is that if Dwight Howard went down, Orlando’s playoff chances would go right down with him.  Aside from that, they’re going to miss [Hedo] Turkoglu more than they realize.  Cleveland, Lebron James.  They might make the playoffs if he ever went down, but it’s not likely.  The guys on that team really need to start thinking beyond the LB era because once this year is over, he’s gone, and this is a league with a long memory.  All the showboating that they did and terrible sportsmanship, it’s coming back to them times three once their god leaves them (note I used a little g on that).  Which brings me to Boston.  Yeah, Boston lost Kevin Garnett and still made it to the second round of the playoffs, even with a sub par effort from Ray Allen.  Well, the wrong one got hurt.  If Paul Pierce had gotten hurt, Boston doesn’t make it out of round one.  Yeah, they’ve got the names, Allen, Garnett and [Rasheed] Wallace, but as far I’m concerned only one name matters in Boston, Pierce.  All of the big three have nice pieces, but that’s what they are, pieces to compliment one great player.  Atlanta has a team of very good players and they don’t have any one spot that you could point to and say, “well, if they have an injury there, it’s over.”  Now, don’t get me wrong, when the chips are down and it’s make or break, having that one great player is a big deal because you know he’s going to bring you home, but at the same time, in a league where “depth” is everything, having one player whose absence could make or break your team’s chances is a little bit….scary.”

OFFICIALLY SPEAKING

From the I-didn’t-know-this-existed-until-recently department comes this trusty link from our friends at NBA.com. It’s true. No one reads anymore. And why would they when you can watch the video? This is smart stuff.

Now if the league could just provide us with some virtual referees until the real stripes get their whistles back the world would be a better place.

WHAT’S HOT

Big Ray has been bringing heat on the Hawks Fans Nest on a regular basis. If you haven’t been over there you need to make a trip. Check out his latest delivery and weigh in with your own take.

121 comments Add your comment

Hawksfan

October 18th, 2009
10:37 pm

1st comment OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kwooden1

October 18th, 2009
10:37 pm

I might be first

doc

October 18th, 2009
10:45 pm

Mystikal

October 18th, 2009
10:48 pm

biljopal

October 18th, 2009
11:41 pm

What’s the good of being first if you don’t have something to say about the team?
I say, “good luck, Hawks. I hope you have a good season.”

Mystikal

October 18th, 2009
11:43 pm

I meant fourth, I think hawks do have a player to be reconed with in Joe Johnson, and with this now being a contract year, we should see as much. Beyond him though we have Jamal Crawford who could step in to shoulder the scoring load if armagedeon were to occur. Whereas Joe is a more efficient shooter, Jamal gets in the lane and to the line more. And even though Crawford is new to the equation, it will be easier for him to adapt then Washington or Orlando, whom have numerous new key pieces to there teams. Even with Boston and Cleveland you don’t know what you’re going to get with age/injuries and the Shaq project- part III.

A Tribe Called Quest

October 18th, 2009
11:51 pm

FIRE MIKE WOODSON

doc

October 19th, 2009
12:33 am

biljopal, dude it is preseason, saving up for the real games. besides i am a vet around these parts and it is a long season. stick around and say something relevant yourself instead of obnoxious and pale good luck stuff. what grade are you?

Big Ray

October 19th, 2009
12:38 am

I love when RA goes off. :)

My pick for Washington’s downward spiral is Antawn Jamison. He’s the only really steady force for the Wiz in the frontcourt. So far, Arenas is being a true team player, and that makes the Wiz dangerous.

Here’s the thing though: everybody keeps saying that we’ll be battling them for 4th place. That’s backwards. THEY will be battling US. We’re the “reigning” 4th place guys. They have to get back into the picture.

National pundits can say what they want.

rms

October 19th, 2009
12:40 am

go hawks!! yeah sekou good to hear you are still kicking!! Long time no hear…

ANT BANKS

October 19th, 2009
12:48 am

the hawks deserve to be “dissed” nationally! they suck on the road! winnin’12 games on the road like they did durin’ the 07-08 campaign and then winnin’ 16 games on the road durin’ the 08-09 campaign will not get you a lot of national fan fare.

winnin’ in a comfortable environment doesn’t say nothin’ about your team. we won 25 home games 2yrs ago and 31 last year. win 28 home games and then win 26 or 27 road games will get you more respect. if the hawks do this and follow it up with a strong 2nd rnd playoff appearance then maybe we will get the national fan fare. and this is comin’ from a hawks fan. DON’T GET PISSED AT THE MEDIA! DO SOMETHIN’ ABOUT IT AND THE RESPECT WILL COME

ANT BANKS

October 19th, 2009
12:51 am

TRIBE,

come on dude. wait til’ the end of dec to start that. we are battlin’ the media, the big 3 in the east. we gotta stick together. support woody til’ we start losin’. right now we don’t need that

bigdave

October 19th, 2009
1:20 am

saw ZaZa and Mo at the game tonight…

Z should get the best dressed Hawk award… dude is fresh… i knew is suit game was official, dress down game is swagged up too… good to see Z and Mo out in support of the city representing the Hawks…

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 19th, 2009
2:21 am

I feel they are ready for business, Woody will coach his butt off or get the heck outta dodge and he will exploit our strengths and depth night in and night out – GIVE JEFF TEAGUE MINUTES!
I think Bibby being there to mentor Jeff in the playoffs would go a long way in his development. I am really impressed with his quickness and ability to get to the rack. And Woody WILL play him (unlike what he did to Acie, Salim) b/c his job depends on it…Josh needs to work on his free throw shooting ASAP. If J smoove, Horford and Marvin continue their natural progression into rising young stars, JJ puts the team ahead of his personal goals and they stay healthy, The Hawks should give Orlando all they can handle in the South East Division.

KevinA

October 19th, 2009
3:41 am

A lot of good things have to happen for the Hawks to win 50-54. But thats my prediction, Why? We have hashed out al the warts. Without more injury than last year we are simply a better team. Enough said. Except for the folowing comments lol.

KevinA

October 19th, 2009
3:42 am

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
8:27 am

Great blog again Sekou.
I can’t wait for the season to start.
Guys, your boy is in the running to win season tickets to the Hawks. Myself and two other guys have to wear Hawks uniforms all week long. So check out the promotion on http://www.790thezone.com called “suit up for the Hawks” and vote. I am Daniel by the way pretty easy to figure out.

ILL-logical

October 19th, 2009
9:12 am

” Crawford has blown away anyone who has seen him work in practice, where his elite scoring and passing rivals that of Hawks’ captain and All-Star Joe Johnson.”

If the the Hawks are serious about not only retaining their spot -4th- in the playoff rankings AND possibly moving up , then some serious thought has to go into changing the current starting line up.

Now I know that I am on shaky ground here. It is clear to me that management’s goals- holding the line on expenses and possibly increasing revenue- are not the same as Woodson’s- get a new contract no matter what. And the only constant is that no one is talking about a championship this year.However, there is a growing line of thinking among the national media that the Hawks performance last season was more reflective of the injuries suffered by other division rivals rather than their innate ability.And there is some merit to that argument.

I believe that one way to address the challenge of this season is to insert Jamal into the starting line up at the point and have a one-two punch equal to any of our divsion rivals. Based upon Woodson’s “system” , Joe is really the point and Bibby the shooting gusrd. Jamal does every thing Bibby does plus he is a better deffender and can penetrate the defense better than anyone on the current roster.

The added bonus is that the second unit has Bibby a a guide and Bibby can point out things to Teague as they happen while sitting next to him.
Just something to consider as the season approaches. By December, this may warrent more discussion.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
9:26 am

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
9:28 am

ILL- Interesting points. I am sure we will see both Joe and Jamal on the court at the same time some. But, having Jamal play the point hurts defensively(I know, I know Bibby is no great shakes there) You put more pressure on Joe to handle the ball, and I don’t like Bibby and Teague coming off the bench together. If Crawford plays like we hope, I can see him being a Manu-type for us, which has been deadly for the Spurs. I am not sure how the line up change you are suggesting is affected by the fianances though.

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
9:29 am

Also, I like Joe and Craword together as the 2 and 3, with Bibby at the one, when we want to go small and perimeter shooting.

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
9:33 am

nice link jerrywest.

GeeMack

October 19th, 2009
9:42 am

I’m glad RA got that off his chest. However it aint like the national media is lying. It’s true the Hawks have a solid team, but there is only one team in the NBA 60 year that won a champioship without a outstanding 1-2 punch (Shaq & Kobe, MJ & Scottie) or a Big 3 (Magic Kareem, & Worthy, Bird McHale & Parrish), and that’s most recent Piston Championshhip team.

I like the additions the Hawks made, and it should result in a winning season, but we are still no better than a 4th seed waiting to be bounced in the 2nd round by one of the big 3.

ILL-logical

October 19th, 2009
9:50 am

Thanks Daniel, I knew that there are sme strong feelings about the issue of changing the starting line up. In reference to your point about the small line up, I do not like Joe at the 3 for at least 2 reassons: First, that just gives Woodson and Joe another excuse to have him on the floor. I don’t believe that anything past 35 minutes a game helps the TEAM. Second, Joe is not athletic enough,IMHO, to play at the 3 for any length of time. 5 minutes with a three guard offense is probably all I could stand. LOL!

Melvin

October 19th, 2009
10:15 am

Daniel,

I just voted for you. Good luck.

doc

October 19th, 2009
10:23 am

ill, jj was at the three a lot more than you think and very effective. go to 82games for the stats you need before you jump to conclusions on that one. you dont remember when he, bibby and flip were on the court for extended minutes?

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
10:47 am

Enter your comments here

Mz. Hawkdafied

October 19th, 2009
10:48 am

RA was on a roll. I was with him until he said Paul Pierce was the only name that mattered. I’m gonna have to go with KG on that one. Just because Paul Pierce was with the team during the playoffs that just past when they barely got pass the Bulls. Paul Pierce was on the team before KG and Ray Allen arrived and he didn’t get that ring until he got help from Ray and KG. The man on the Celtics team is KG not Paul Pierce. KG is a future hall of famer, former MVP and DPOY. You guys talk about JJ not being a superstar and only being an allstar. Well Paul Pierce is on the same level with JJ (all star status).

Good luck on the season tickets Daniel!

Ken Strickland

October 19th, 2009
10:52 am

ILLOGICAL-you’d better believe there are some strong feelings about changing the starting lineup. Just go back and look at the debate that started up when I suggested we replace Bibby with Teague as the starting PG.

But, despite any suggestions of replacing any starters, or whether it makes perfect sense or not, there’s no way in hell Woodson’s going to replace one of his favorite veteran players with a younger player, especially Bibby. It’s beyond belief to think he’d do it under normal circumstances, but with his head coaching career on the line, THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IT WILL HAPPEN.

I’d like to see 4-5MPG taken off each of our starters last yrs totals. Those 20-25mins could be redistributed among our bench players. Crawford would get Flips mins, Teague would get Acie’s 10MPG, plus an additional 12-15MPG(22-25MPG), Evans and Zaza would get their regular MPG and Joe Smith would get Solo’s 10MPG plus an additional 5MPG(15MPG). That would give a serious 10 man rotation with 15MPG being the least amount of mins given.

There’s no way fatigue would be a factor at the end of the season or during the playoffs with that rotation and MPG. Each of the 10 players would get enough consistent mins to be effective and make an impact. A bench rotation of SG JCrawford, PG JTeague, C ZPachulia, PF JSmith and SF MEvans could put a lot of pressure on a lot of starting lineups in this league. That rotation will allow us to maintain 4qtrs of none stop pressure on both ends of the court. We should own the 4th quarters of most gms.

I see the individual improvement of our returning players(ORGANIC GROWTH) and the added depth, experience and talent to our bench, along with better coaching, resulting in at least 3 additonal home wins and 3 additional road wins. With the improvement of the Celtics, Orlando and Hawks, I don’t see how Cleveland can repeat another 66 win season. Besides, Orlando exposed their total inability to stop the pick and roll, and Shaq only makes that Achilles heal worse.

The addition of VCarter, at best, will only serve to replace what Orlando lost with the departure of HTurkgolu and CLee. Getting top production out of Vince will require a remake of their entire OFF approach and both Vince and Dwight will have to make some major adjustments. They improved considerably on paper, but how will it translate to the court. Neither team will see any noticable internal improvement(organic growth).

For the 1st time since Bibby’s arrival, we have a viable replacement for him, and won’t have to automatically go down to defeat when his jumpshot isn’t falling. Even with Bibby being a nonfactor, and with a limited bench and experience, we gave the Celtics, who were at their best, a hell of a run in our 7gm series in the 07-08 playoffs. This yr, we won’t have to automatically go down just because Bibby or JJ are playing poorly because we now have JTeague and JCrawford, the 1st viable replacements we’ve ever had for either. The additions of Joe Smith and JCollins gives us the experience, especially playoff experience, versatility, size and depth off the bench that we’ve never had before.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:03 am

Crawford is a terrible defender against big and strong shooting guards, but he is an adequate defender against most point guards and weak shooting guards. Bibby is an adequate defender against old point guards only.

I like Bibby to start the season just for the sake of continuity, however, there is nothing Bibby can do to stop Crawford from taking his minutes away.

Offensively, Crawford is, I think,

75% JJ +
20% Flip +
5% Allen Iverson.

Defensively, he is Reggie Miller trying to play a power forward.

GeeMack

October 19th, 2009
11:11 am

ILL-logical & Daniel,

How about this starting line up Bibby, JJ Jsmoove, Al, & Collins. This addresses our most glaring need defense, and rebounding. Out of 32 teams last year 22 were better rebounding teams.

That means Marvin goes to the bench and JSmoove goes to the 3 and Al goes to the 4 spot. These are their natural positions.

JustSayIt

October 19th, 2009
11:14 am

I just have to say it. I read, follow, the hawks daily from ajc, espn, hawks.com, inside hoops, etc. If it’s about the hawks I’ll read it. But I have never posted before now. I just have to say it. Why the hawks,though I am a fan, never gets mentioned as an elite, among the big three comes down to a set of numbers (12-29 and 16-29). What are these numbers? The hawks road record for the last 2 years. The 3 teams in the Eastern Conference the last to years Boston (31-10, 27-14), Orlando (27-14, 27-14), Detroit (25-16, ‘07 Season), Cleveland (27-14, 08′ Season). As much as I love the hawks, until they have a winning record on the road they will not be considered nationally as a championship contender. Sekou I am far more interested in how you think the hawks will far on the road than if they can beat an elite team on any given night or knock of one in a playoff series. Eventually champions are made on the road.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:21 am

Daniel

Bibby+ Crawford + JJ + Josh+ Al will be the smallest lineup in the NBA. One of the smallest in 20 years. Smaller than some college teams. Defensive disaster. Bibby guarding point guards and Crawford guarding shooting guards will be the worst defensive backcourt in the history of NBA.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:23 am

GeeMack – good post. Don’t be a stranger.

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
11:24 am

Thanks Melvin!!!

I would not want to start that line up, but just use it in game situation.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:24 am

I meant to JustSayIt. I totally disagree with GeeMack on putting Josh at small forward. He just can’t shoot. Period.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:27 am

I see Crawford+JJ+Marvin+Josh+Al as a killer lineup. We are big in 3 positions. Let Crawford handle the ball and station JJ and Marvin outside the 3, preferably at the corners. When they double team JC to stop his unstoppable penetration, we’ll have JJ and Marvin completely open for unmolested 3s. I can see Teague in that role once he ditches his diapers.

GeeMack

October 19th, 2009
11:33 am

Ken

I think you maybe over thinking the Vince trade. Vince is a 10 year vet. Veteran have easier times adjusting to new surrounding than younger players. The Hawks have alot more potential for chemistry problems than Orl. Keep in mind our top offensive option is in a contract year and wants to prove he is worth another big contract. Also Marvin just signed a nice contract and wants to prove he is worth the investment.

Your are correct. We have experienced “organic growth”. Love that term by the way. However all the guys we are chasing got deeper and better. Bos: Daniels, Big Baby, Sheed, Scalabrini & House, Cle: Moon, West, Big Z, & Gibson. Shaq & Parker starter. Orl: Barnes, JWill, Petirus, Gortat, & Bass. Washington. Miller & Foye.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
11:33 am

Among the main players of the top 4 teams in the East, only JJ, Pierce, Allen, Bibby and Lewis take little risks that could get them injured.

niremetal

October 19th, 2009
11:35 am

Sorry, but Crawford has not played most of his minutes at PG during his career, and he has never ever shown himself to be an effective PG. As with Teague, he needs to show he can handle the point before we start shoving Bibby down in the pecking order.

GeeMack

October 19th, 2009
11:35 am

JustSayIt

Great post.

Daniel

October 19th, 2009
11:53 am

I agree with you GeeMack to an extent. (BTW- JustSayIt good post, glad you are here)
However, Did you honestly think that Orlando was elite at the begining of last season? On paper the Hawks look to be a solid #4 again, even with improvements. However, sometimes a team does rise up. Not to sound to cheesy.
I disagree that Joe being in a contract year will hurt chemistry. All-Star players during a contract year is a good thing.

Nire- agree with you on Bibby. His demise is greatly exaggerated. JT0 will be helpful at 10-15 min a game with a change of pace. C’mon guys he is a rookie. It is unfair for us to expect too much from the kid.

ILL-logical

October 19th, 2009
12:11 pm

Glad I can spur some quality discussion in reference to possible starting lineup changes. Again, I refere to the quote from sekou’s story about Jamal Crawford’s ability to shoot and PASS being equal to Joe’s. Joe is the distributor of the ball in the current offense-Bibby just brings the ball up the court.

The point is that as a veteran, Jamal has the skills and savvy that Bibby brought to the table with the addition of being able to drive and dish. He is taller and quicker than Bibby and has shown the ability to handle the defensive end of the point quard position as well. This a key component of my arguement because one of the many challenges that i see in Al playing the 5 is the added responsibility of compensating for Bibby’s lack of defense.It is a burden to have to guard his man plus try to stop Bibby’s man from getting to the rim on a regular and continious basis.

Which brings me to another point of contention; how about starting Collins at the 5 and giving him 20 minutes there ? He is a very solid defender, especially with the pick and roll as well as having the size and heft to bang with the big boys.
I hear clearly the voices that describe-quite accurately,IMO, Woodson’s relutance to alter his goal of getting a new contract by changing the current line up. But the reality is that there are a growing number of observers who are beginning to see that there are alternatives to his point of view that will alow his goal and the team and fans goals to coincide. Maybe ,just maybe circumstances will permit a teachable moment that does not involve a personnel action in the near future.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
12:18 pm

Most of us have a pretty good idea about how our defense will be. We are about to make a quantum leap in our offense under a pilot who doesn’t know how to fly.

Can’t wait to see Crawford play next to JJ. Both of them require double teaming. I don’t see any defense in the NBA that can cool this combo. Someone will always be open.

Two assassins who pass so well and require double teaming!!! I can’t wait for the season to start so that I can tell so many people – “I told you so”.

The part I hated was first Orlando took Bass from Dallas and then they kept Gortat. Also, they picked up an outside shooting power forward stud named Anderson in the Carter trade. Also, Boston matching Big Baby makes them so much deeper.

These luxury tax paying teams keep doing the extra thing that we just don’t do. Even Stackhouse at minimum is too much for us.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
12:22 pm

Illogical – Great post at 12:11. However, starting Collins would be a little too creative and would mess up the team chemistry all together. I think Collins will be a very important part of the rotation when we play physical teams with big centers. The guy guards Shaq better than just about anybody.

Mz. Hawkdafied

October 19th, 2009
12:25 pm

JustSayIt provides a good point “road record”. The Hawks are still a work in progress on the road. That’s why I was tripping off the preseason road loss to Detroit. Plain and simple our team struggles on the road. Contenders win on the road regardless of the hostile crowd. Contenders also have weaknesses. One of the Hawks’ weaknesses “road record” stand out alot. I don’t know if this can be attributed to their offensive plan, coach, the players, etc., whatever.

Okay thanks JustSayit for helping me understand why the Hawks are getting no love as of yet from the media, makes sense from that point of view. “road record”, got it.

jerrywest

October 19th, 2009
12:30 pm

Forget about starting line-up.

With 15 seconds to go and we are down 1 point and with the ball, what lineup do you send in?

Crawford
JJ
Marvin
Joe Smith (For Joe’s mid range accuracy & guile, and Josh’s free throw problems)
Horford (Clutch rebounder and finisher)

With 15 seconds to go and we are up 1 point and defending, what lineup do you send in?

Mario West
JJ
Marvin
Josh
Collins (Horford against small centers)

What’s yours?

GeeMack

October 19th, 2009
12:31 pm

Daniel,

We all know had KG been healthy we would have seen a Bos vs. LA rematch. Also the Magic have something the Hawks didn’t have last year and don’t have this year. The most dominate big man in the league. Period!

My point concerning chemistry issue is because we frequently point out the potential for issues with Orl. because of the VC traded.

We have just as much potential because our players are young. These guys are still carving out their way in the league.

All,

I keep hearing JTeague name like he is automatic. I think with what I have seen he will be a good player, but he is still a rookie PG and most rookie PG’s not picked in the top 10 struggle the 1st year. Whatever he gives us is a bonus, but he should not be counted on to produce his first year.

MannyT

October 19th, 2009
1:19 pm

Not first!

How is this for an alternative view…I hope the Hawks are NOT ready!

Not wishing any ill will on the home team, but I am recognizing that:

-Several of the players are new to the team.

-The new, veteran big men need time to get their legs under them.

-The influx of experienced talent needs to find its collective comfort zone while playing together.

-Woody needs to figure out how to best use the right guys in the proper situations to have a consistent advantage.

All this is addition to the entire league adjusting to the refs that would only get into arenas with tickets before the lockout. Good call Mr. 13579. The charities that get the fine money are looking forward to significant increases from NBA contributions.

Once the Hawks are actually ready, I expect to see a very nice run–like a month with a 80%+ winning rate.

For your friend RA, he needs to remember that the NBA markets personalities more than winning. Aside from Josh, most folks see this team as more Spurs like in personality. There is no controversy with the coach and they stay out of trouble. However, when you win enough, you get some quiet respect…compare our TV schedule to the rest of this century.

I won’t take it personally that the mass media wants to dismiss the Hawks. I’ll just enjoy it all the more when the string of wins come.

BWAF

Mis placed press - hummmmmm

October 19th, 2009
1:20 pm

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Isnt this the hawks page??