
There's no identity crisis for Hawks swingman Marvin Williams. He knows exactly who he is. But what do other think of the starting small forward? Find out inside.
HAWKSVILLE – The questions rolled off the tongue much easier than the answer.
I asked Marvin Williams the other day, “Who are you as a player, what’s your profile around the league?”
After rubbing his head for a second and smiling, Williams looked me dead in the eye and said, “I don’t worry about stuff like that. You’d have to ask someone else about that.”
Good idea Marv.
A quick phone call to a friend (a NBA All-Star turned pundit these days) offered up an interesting answer.
“Marvin Williams is their x-factor,” he said. “He’s the key to their season if you ask me. I think Marvin has to be the guy because he’s a 6-9, 240-pound guy that plays what I think is the most crucial position in the league these days. Whatever position the best player in the league plays, every guy on every other team that plays that spot becomes even more important. When MJ (Michael Jordan for you Y2K babies) ruled the league every shooting guard in the league instantly became more important. The same goes for all the small forwards now that LeBron is the man. So if Marvin can get to another level this year, the Hawks really have a chance to make some noise.”
That’s fine. And it’s a great discussion for another day. But it didn’t answer my initial question about Marvin’s game, which to me seems like an interesting mix of inside and out (more mid-range than post with a little 3-point wrinkle added last season) with a chance for so much more. So I pressed on, asking again for a definitive statement about what kind of player Marvin is in the eyes of a guy that’s played the game at a high level.
“Well, his game is hard to describe because I don’t know that he’s that easily categorized. The Hawks have never really asked him to fit into a specific hole as a shooter or rebounder or whatever,” my friend said. “I always felt like he had a chance to be a Jamal Mashburn-type player, a big guy that could work you off the dribble from the wing and finish with a jumper or push his man closer to the basket and finish there. But his handles have never impressed me. He was more of a situational shooter before last season, and those guys tend to drift in and out of games depending on who they’re playing with. But he opened my eyes last season with the 3-point shooting. I saw him early in the year when the Hawks started 6-0 and he was shooting the lights out and I felt like he had a chance to really break out, but he gradually eased up from out there as the season went on. He has to keep attacking from all over the floor offensively and hold his ground defensively. As far as who he is as a player, I think the jury is still out on him. And that’s a good thing. He’s still in the early stages of his career where he can define that for himself. This is a huge year for him individually. He can answer a lot of questions by showing he’s more of a consistent force than he’s been in his first few years.”
Most everyone I’ve spoken to about Williams since the summer, when he signed a new five-year deal with the Hawks, has echoed similar sentiments, the gist being that Williams still has room to grow and improve. I just wonder if how much of that we’ll get to see on a team where he’ll remain a third or fourth option on the offensive end of the floor.
KG IS WELCOME, TOO
Now that Zaza Pachulia is in the restaurant business, I expect the culinary jokes to become commonplace around here (fire away, Zaza’s thick skinned and a good sport).
Naturally, I kicked off the clowning last week while we sat in his spot (Eno By Zaza) for an interview.
“So is Kevin Garnett welcome here?” I asked, wondering aloud whether or not their nose-to-nose playoff dance from a couple years back was still a sore spot for both men.
After laughing for a few minutes, the always gracious Zaza welcomed not only Garnett but anyone in the world named Kevin or Garnett to frequent his spot. ”On the court, I’m always going to compete and fight hard,” Pachulia said. “Off the court, is another story. I hope Kevin Garnett comes to eat here. It would be great to see.”
Spoken like a true entrepreneur.
HOOP DREAMERS BEWARE
Utah Flash coach Brad Jones dropped in for a training camp visit last week and will return to Atlanta next week on more business. The Flash, the Hawks’ D-League affiliate, will be holding a one-day tryout at Athletics and Fitness Center at Clayton State University Oct. 24 at 10 a.m.
The flash have selected at least two players from the open tryout to attend their training camp in each of the past two seasons. Jones said Wednesday afternoon that as many as 17 players will attend training camp with the team in Salt Lake City.
Jones said the one-day tryout is open to all comers, provided they register (the fee is $150 in advance and $175 on the day of camp) as well as a player release and eligibility form. Registration can be completed online (and the forms can be found on the team’s official website).
The Flash will begin preseason training camp Nov. 15 before traveling to Tulsa for their first regular season game on Nov. 27.
OSCAR BUZZ
Who knew Josh Smith was the funniest NBA player of his time? He’s always kept me in stitches, but now he’s finding his way to the web in one hilarious video after another. He actually shows off some real acting chops in his new one-man spot that’s popped up online. His latest (courtesy of our friends at adidas, via a nice assist from my main man MS):
NICKNAME MADNESS
The nickname game is heating up with the regular season just around the corner.
OG member Big Ray is campaigning vigorously to tag rookie point guard Jeff Teague with the moniker “JT0″ (pronounced “Jay Tee Oh,” in reference to his initials and uniform number while also paying homage to the classic Pontiac sports car [GTO], per Nire).
Nire has taken it a couple steps further with a pre-made theme song (which I think needs a hip-hop edge for a youngster like Teague):
I’m more inclined to watch this Teague mix:
Hawks and Grizz tonight at 8 from the Bluff City, in case you forgot.
419 comments Add your comment
niremetal
October 18th, 2009
5:17 pm
Sekou,
Based on the last page of comments, I’m begging you – make a new thread
Lou Dobbs gets a smackdown
October 18th, 2009
5:35 pm
Ok I will use lol instead.So that you don’t think am using your name.
You guys keep telling mexicans to fix Mexico,but Europeans did not fixed their country instead they decided to come to this country illegally and to kill the native americans.
Like I said before what Mexicans are doing today, white people have done in the past.
But the things white people have done in the past are way worst.
You just don't get it
October 18th, 2009
5:54 pm
Hahahahaha
All races love to exploit humans if there is a dollar to be made. Heck it took over 200 years to pass the Lilly Lead Better act. Violate the countries laws? Heck the rich make the laws, then we bail their butts out, where is the outcry for enforceing the laws now? Lets blame the Mexicans. Lets let those who hire them eat the free lunch. There is a reason the border is not sealed.
If Crawford plays well how does anybody see Teague getting 20 minutes. Bibby would have to play pretty bad, I don’t see that happening, he’s a vet.
Lou Dobbs
October 18th, 2009
5:55 pm
Actually I think this will be a break out year for both Josh and marvin. If they had both went the four years of college as did Al, they would be rookies this year. From that vantage point they will have GREAT NBA careers!!
Hahahaha
October 18th, 2009
6:01 pm
There is nothing wrong with being rich. There is nothing to blame. Whats to blame. What I blame is your weak play on words to solicit sympathy for illegal immigration and your arrogance at calling any one who doesnt approve of you abusing the system as racist. Why should “The Race” AKA La Raza, be given preference over all the other races of people who are trying to get to america and make a better life for themselves,and over those who apply legally? Can you answer that question without calling someone a racist?
Lou Dobbs gets a smackdown
October 18th, 2009
6:02 pm
Lou Dobbs now that is something we can both agree on.
Hahahaha
October 18th, 2009
6:03 pm
Stop trying to use something 400 years ago to justify your behavior today.
ufø
October 18th, 2009
6:13 pm
Hahahahaha this is so funny I can not belive Lou Dobbs need a smackdown got you guys so mad.
Hahaha
Lou Dobbs gets a smackdown
October 18th, 2009
6:27 pm
Hahahahahahahaha!!!!
vava74
October 18th, 2009
6:46 pm
Can some create a 3rd Blog on AJC: “hawks fans gone bezerk”
special admitance requirements: multiple personality disorder, extreme beligerence and actual lack of interest for the hawks
Ken Strickland
October 18th, 2009
7:36 pm
NIRE-I was referring to both of us when I said let’s not get too carried away. Whatever one of us was doing in this exchange of opinions, the other was just as guilty. I’m not upset at all my friend. And yes, I was the one that started the discussion about starting Teague over Bibby.
One other thing. We all know Woodson’s OFF doesn’t require traditional PG skills to be effective. Besides, JJ runs the OFF as much as the PG, so I feel Teague could get the job done from day one without struggling. His primary OFF responsibility would be to use his speed, quickness and penetrating ability to breakdown the DEF and create open shots and/or easy inside scoring opportunities for our Bigs when called upon. On DEF, he’d be required to use that same speed and quickness to fight over screens, maintain position in front of his man and limit penetration, which would relieve the other 4 players of having to switch on every pick and having to guard quicker, faster players.
I could see Bibby serving in a simular capacity as JTerry, the former starting PG for Dallas.
KevinA
October 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
Ken Strickland ,
One other thing. We all know Woodson’s OFF doesn’t require traditional PG skills to be effective. Besides, JJ runs the OFF as much as the PG, so I feel Teague could get the job done from day one without struggling. His primary OFF responsibility would be to use his speed, quickness and penetrating ability to breakdown the DEF
I don’t think even nire would argue against that. We would love for all of that to happen. However rookies are inconstant at best. We have the same dreams about Crawford. Can anybody get the ball to the front court in a position that helps their offense? Only time will tell. If the problem was Woody, (as nire suggested) maybe he will force the back court to pass the ball and all could change for the better. So many questions, so many avenues to get there. Let the iso end. Go Hawks
KevinA
October 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Lou Dobbs,
Agreed 100%, If Teague makes the impact some think it will be much more of a suprise than the improvement of Marvin and Josh. I would like to throw in the name of Al to boot to a lesser extent.
KevinA
October 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
nire,
Ii know how you like to seperate general ideas from the general point. The general point being passing from the back court to others. “So many avenues” being the key phrase. This would include Woody.
You just don't get it
October 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
Hahahaha,
There is nothing wrong with being rich. There is nothing to blame.
Except when they break the law. Minor point you fail to recognize. Does society change and mature as a matter of fairness or just blame the poor and manipulated.
In the end you win. Bk to Hawks. Talking normal humanity in a red state is hopeless.
You get the last word and lets get back to Hawks basketball.
Hahahaha
October 19th, 2009
9:26 am
You just don’t get it/ Lou Dobbs gets a smackdown/ufø
Surprise me and do something honorable and lifting. Go back to Mexico; organize a group that is not Race based as is La Raza. Let the focus of the group be about cleaning up the corruption in Mexico.
If you have any patriotic feelings about America, then honor and respect this country by applying for citizenship appropriately through patience and through the correct channels.
When and if you are found worthy to join us Americans, send me a invitation to your swearing allegiance ceremony and I will be blessed to attend.
Stop blaming the rich. They don’t make your choices for you. That’s like a junkie blaming the dope man when he chooses to do dope.
Finally, Good luck to you and yours.
Lou Dobbs needs a smackdown
October 19th, 2009
9:18 pm
Dude am native american not mexican.
And i don’t blame rich people I only blame racist white people.
Lou Dobbs needs a promotion!
October 20th, 2009
4:04 pm
Mexicans are racist too. LA RAZA means “the race” so maybe you should add them to your blame list. A racist is a spiritually and mentally sick person no matter what race he or she is. White, Mexican or otherwise.
Blast
October 21st, 2009
5:59 pm
Thought this was Hawks basketball blog? For a moment I thought I had stumbled on CNN’s blog page. October 27 cannot come soon enough! 6 more days, baby! Can’t wait. Go Hawks Go!