What’s in your profile?
There's no identity crisis for Hawks swingman Marvin Williams. He knows exactly who he is. But what do other think of the starting small forward? Find out inside.
HAWKSVILLE – The questions rolled off the tongue much easier than the answer.
I asked Marvin Williams the other day, “Who are you as a player, what’s your profile around the league?”
After rubbing his head for a second and smiling, Williams looked me dead in the eye and said, “I don’t worry about stuff like that. You’d have to ask someone else about that.”
Good idea Marv.
A quick phone call to a friend (a NBA All-Star turned pundit these days) offered up an interesting answer.
“Marvin Williams is their x-factor,” he said. “He’s the key to their season if you ask me. I think Marvin has to be the guy because he’s a 6-9, 240-pound guy that plays what I think is the most crucial position in the league these days. Whatever position the best player in the league plays, every guy on every other team that plays that spot becomes even more important. When MJ (Michael Jordan for you Y2K babies) ruled the league every shooting guard in the league instantly became more important. The same goes for all the small forwards now that LeBron is the man. So if Marvin can get to another level this year, the Hawks really have a chance to make some noise.”
That’s fine. And it’s a great discussion for another day. But it didn’t answer my initial question about Marvin’s game, which to me seems like an interesting mix of inside and out (more mid-range than post with a little 3-point wrinkle added last season) with a chance for so much more. So I pressed on, asking again for a definitive statement about what kind of player Marvin is in the eyes of a guy that’s played the game at a high level.
“Well, his game is hard to describe because I don’t know that he’s that easily categorized. The Hawks have never really asked him to fit into a specific hole as a shooter or rebounder or whatever,” my friend said. “I always felt like he had a chance to be a Jamal Mashburn-type player, a big guy that could work you off the dribble from the wing and finish with a jumper or push his man closer to the basket and finish there. But his handles have never impressed me. He was more of a situational shooter before last season, and those guys tend to drift in and out of games depending on who they’re playing with. But he opened my eyes last season with the 3-point shooting. I saw him early in the year when the Hawks started 6-0 and he was shooting the lights out and I felt like he had a chance to really break out, but he gradually eased up from out there as the season went on. He has to keep attacking from all over the floor offensively and hold his ground defensively. As far as who he is as a player, I think the jury is still out on him. And that’s a good thing. He’s still in the early stages of his career where he can define that for himself. This is a huge year for him individually. He can answer a lot of questions by showing he’s more of a consistent force than he’s been in his first few years.”
Most everyone I’ve spoken to about Williams since the summer, when he signed a new five-year deal with the Hawks, has echoed similar sentiments, the gist being that Williams still has room to grow and improve. I just wonder if how much of that we’ll get to see on a team where he’ll remain a third or fourth option on the offensive end of the floor.
KG IS WELCOME, TOO
Now that Zaza Pachulia is in the restaurant business, I expect the culinary jokes to become commonplace around here (fire away, Zaza’s thick skinned and a good sport).
Naturally, I kicked off the clowning last week while we sat in his spot (Eno By Zaza) for an interview.
“So is Kevin Garnett welcome here?” I asked, wondering aloud whether or not their nose-to-nose playoff dance from a couple years back was still a sore spot for both men.
After laughing for a few minutes, the always gracious Zaza welcomed not only Garnett but anyone in the world named Kevin or Garnett to frequent his spot. ”On the court, I’m always going to compete and fight hard,” Pachulia said. “Off the court, is another story. I hope Kevin Garnett comes to eat here. It would be great to see.”
Spoken like a true entrepreneur.
HOOP DREAMERS BEWARE
Utah Flash coach Brad Jones dropped in for a training camp visit last week and will return to Atlanta next week on more business. The Flash, the Hawks’ D-League affiliate, will be holding a one-day tryout at Athletics and Fitness Center at Clayton State University Oct. 24 at 10 a.m.
The flash have selected at least two players from the open tryout to attend their training camp in each of the past two seasons. Jones said Wednesday afternoon that as many as 17 players will attend training camp with the team in Salt Lake City.
Jones said the one-day tryout is open to all comers, provided they register (the fee is $150 in advance and $175 on the day of camp) as well as a player release and eligibility form. Registration can be completed online (and the forms can be found on the team’s official website).
The Flash will begin preseason training camp Nov. 15 before traveling to Tulsa for their first regular season game on Nov. 27.
OSCAR BUZZ
Who knew Josh Smith was the funniest NBA player of his time? He’s always kept me in stitches, but now he’s finding his way to the web in one hilarious video after another. He actually shows off some real acting chops in his new one-man spot that’s popped up online. His latest (courtesy of our friends at adidas, via a nice assist from my main man MS):
NICKNAME MADNESS
The nickname game is heating up with the regular season just around the corner.
OG member Big Ray is campaigning vigorously to tag rookie point guard Jeff Teague with the moniker “JT0″ (pronounced “Jay Tee Oh,” in reference to his initials and uniform number while also paying homage to the classic Pontiac sports car [GTO], per Nire).
Nire has taken it a couple steps further with a pre-made theme song (which I think needs a hip-hop edge for a youngster like Teague):
I’m more inclined to watch this Teague mix:
Hawks and Grizz tonight at 8 from the Bluff City, in case you forgot.
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Sekou Smith
October 15th, 2009
2:05 pm
J-Quick has a nice little ring to it and carries on a tradition around here (J-Smoove, J-Chil, J-whateva). Interesting. And I think jerrywest’s Dunkin Donuts idea for Josh is fantastic so long as the beat writer can get a medium hazelnut with cream and sugar delivered to his seat at the start of every home game.
The chatter about that 13th spot dominates the conversation at practice daily. There’s a Othello Hunter faction that’s formed but there are also contingents championing Courtney Sims, Mario West, BGS (Garret Siler or Glacier as I’ve heard him referred to several times) and even Ariose’s main man Juan Dixon. It’s hard to handicap this race right now. It seems wide open to me.
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
2:12 pm
Ms Dee I think Evans would do better in that role than Jamal. And leave Jamal coming off with Marvin. But honestly, I love Marvin at the starting 3. He has that Sean Elliott type jumper from the corner. And with more movement in the offense, he could easily get 17 a game, just by simply going to a motion offense.
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
2:19 pm
Sekou, I don’t think Woody is given the credit he deserves for being a good teacher for some young players. But could you tell us is he a good teacher for the other coaches also? The way Walsh teaching his staff lead to so many successful coaches, and the Dungy era has lead to a Superbowl, and wonderful coaches. Do you see any of those qualities in Woody? Or is he more like a dictator with the staff?
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
2:21 pm
Everyone, here’s a new prediction to make, **how many games do you see Smoove and Woody getting ejected with the new referees?**
niremetal
October 15th, 2009
2:31 pm
Co-sign Ramon’s 2:12
Sautee
October 15th, 2009
2:35 pm
nire,
Automatic tranny. Shifted like a dream. Though I DID override it some.
Daniel
October 15th, 2009
2:50 pm
I am with Ramon on that one Mz. Dee, especially since you don’t like my nickname idea.
IMUS- I’ll be there too. Dude, I agree with you on Randolph 100%, problem is that he is going to make the team because he is already under contract. So basically you get to choose only one Hunter, Mario, Sims or Siler.
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
3:01 pm
vava74,
Ok I would than start Mo Evans since we DID have a pretty good record last season when he started..
Ramon,
Marvin, I think, would also prefer coming off the bench (though he would never ask the coach that since being drafted 2 overall and all) cause as long as JJ is on the floor with him, he will never consistently score the ball more than 13pts a game. Even JJ noticed a difference in Marvin’s game when he was out.
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
3:03 pm
Daniel,
Oh I like your nickname idea, just dont think Ryan C will do it any justice during game time.
Drewcat
October 15th, 2009
3:12 pm
Hey Sekou, quick preseason question.
I noticed Joe SMith and J. Crawford haven’t played a preseason game yet and I was wondering if they both will be ready to go for opening night. What’s the latest on their injury statuses?
Ariose
October 15th, 2009
3:13 pm
Lol@ Sekou,
Dixon=Ewwwwww!!!
The replacement refs should be great for OUR SQUAD sice we attack the rim so much…..teams like Boston are going to hate it though. Maybe JJ can finally get some decent calls around here. Besides, didn’t the OLD REFS cost Mike Bibby a title in 2001?
*Ryan Cameron Voice* J-Smooove!!!!!………From J-Quick!!!!!!
…cop that….
Daniel
October 15th, 2009
3:22 pm
Another great show from JT-0, JT-0 is in the flow, pedal to the metal! JT-0, Go, Go!!
Just some ideas.
Now, with J-Quick, Jeff could get a necklace with a giant Q like the Nestle Quick rabbit.
Daniel
October 15th, 2009
3:26 pm
Interesting idea, our second unit would have almost the same salary as our first unit.
I think Marvin is going to step up his game this year. I really do. If he just drives the basket 5-8 more times a game and continue his same outside shot and defense, could really make a big difference.
Ariose
October 15th, 2009
3:26 pm
Hahaha!!
JerryWest
October 15th, 2009
3:38 pm
The ball goes from JT0 to JJ to JCrow to JSmithsonian to JSmoove for a monster jam.
niremetal
October 15th, 2009
3:40 pm
Oh come on: “JT-Oooooooooooooooooohhhhhh”. Cameron’s got that.
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
3:55 pm
Why not use them both..
JT-0 when he makes a great pass and J-Quik when he uses his speed to drive to the basket..yes??…yes??
The Truth
October 15th, 2009
3:55 pm
My two cents:
If Teague scores no points in a game. JT-0 could backfire.
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
3:56 pm
MsDee I understand what you are saying. But please realize I think this year, Marvin will become the best perimeter defender we have. If Marvin getting more production off the bench helps Marvin’s stats but hurts the team overall objective, then you’re taking 2 steps back. Marvin may be a valuable scorer off the bench, but he still wouldn’t be a better scorer than Crawford. It would hurt the team for the starters to scorer 45 points, but give up 46. And right now from deep, Marvin has a better stroke than Crawford or Evans, that’s why he is needed in the starting line up. Because he’s a better spot up shooter, but not a better creator. I believe the strength of a 6th man should be to be able to create coast to coast if needed. Spurs have that in Manu, Dallas in Terry, LA in Odom, and Chicago had it in Kukoc, just to name a few.
If you remember when Karl went to Denver, the main thing he changed about Melo’s game was he told Melo to make a move soon as he gets the pass. He told him to either move, or swing it back. I think if JJ applied this same principal on offense, it would open up Marvin to be able to score more and give him even more open looks on court. Marvin not being a 6 man, doesn’t mean he can’t benefit when JJ goes to the bench. Usually Marvin is the first to go out. So when the second wave of substitution comes in, Marvin coming back in for JJ would still give him an opportunity to create. Last season, Marvin received quite a few minutes on the court, when JJ was on the sideline in the 2nd quarters.
Another thing, I feel you need Marvin in the game to continue the cohesiveness. Because at the end of the game, there’s no way he can not be in the game. The ending lineup should often be JC, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, and Horford.
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
3:57 pm
Examples..”JT-0hhhh with the assist”,,”JJJJJJ-Quik with the lay-up!!!”
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
4:21 pm
Ramon,
What difference would it make if Marvin has a better stroke than those other 2 if he rarely uses it if JJ is on the floor hitting his 3’s & making his runners in the lane? Also Marvin does create his own shots by driving to the basket while making the basket & drawing fouls (something that JJ rarely does, drawing fouls that is) Marvin wouldnt get that many opportunites if he and JJ are in the game b/c Woody wants the ball in JJ hands.
Also I hear your point about JJ if and that’s a BIG IF he applies that to his game with the comparison of Melo cause if he doesnt, Marvin is in the same situation.
Oh and its not who starts the game, its who finishes it..Marvin should definely be at the end of the games!!
Ariose
October 15th, 2009
4:30 pm
Truth, Exellent point.
Rod from College Park
October 15th, 2009
4:38 pm
Ramon,
“Another thing, I feel you need Marvin in the game to continue the cohesiveness. Because at the end of the game, there’s no way he can not be in the game. The ending lineup should often be JC, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, and Horford.”
He has not been in the game at the end of the games alot. Last year before he was hurt, Woodson would still put Flip in the game at the end of games for Marvin because we needed another scorer in the game. When Chills was here Marvin would start the game, but the majority of the time Chills would be in the game at the end of the game. My opinion is the same thing will happen this year with Crawford. You will need Crawford in the game at crunch time to keep teams from just focusing on JJ, and leaving others open. Teams don’t gameplan for Marvin.
MsDee,
“What difference would it make if Marvin has a better stroke than those other 2 if he rarely uses it if JJ is on the floor hitting his 3’s & making his runners in the lane?”
Exactly!!! Marvin does not want the ball in crunch time. That is not something you can teach. You either have it or you don’t.
cp
October 15th, 2009
4:39 pm
Marvin should be starting. I think people are really overrating the record we had when Mo started. Defensively Mo is terrible. He cant guard those bigger sf’s like Marvin can. Hell Mo struggles defending most sg’s. Mo should continue to come off the bench. People need to get over not taking CP3 because that is what i think most of the criticism about Marvin comes from. I think Marvin is going to continue to get better. He has now worked on his handles to go along with that 3 point shot he added last year. The sky is the limit for him.
Juan Dixon>>>>>>>> Mario…… This is Mario’s 3rd year and I have yet to see any improvement in any area of his game. Its time to get over the feel good story on the local kid. Give me Hunter and Dixon to finish the roster. If its only one spot give me Hunter. And again why did we sign Collins. The guy looks like he worked out all summer with Jerome James. We might have to hire security to make sure he stays away from Varsity.
The Flash
October 15th, 2009
4:39 pm
I think that MW will evolve more and more to the style of Bill Bradley. But to do that this team will need to change its offensive concepts and JJ will have to let go of holding it and looking for “a best option.”
MW’s best game is finding his way to space from which he can hurt you, and doing it, or giving it up; he is a great potential creator of space by his ability to see a move or two ahead and clear out strategically.
His game will be mostly catch and shoot, maybe put it on the floor once or twice, and shoot to give it up. In the Triangle, he’d he super.
The style I mentioned will give him his best chance at staying healthy. Marvin should be guarding 2s, not 3s, certainly not LeBron or Kobe. That should be JJ’s job. Marvin’s body will not hold up to guarding star 3s. His length and ability to move laterally will present problems for 2s who depend on making defenders come forward to defend the 3-ball to beat them off the dribble. Marvin can give space and still guard the 3-ball.
The key for Marvin is to develop and maintain a style that will keep him on the court, that is, minimize the likelihood of injury.
The back thing could well be a function of the style he has developed for organizing himself when he plays, which has an oddity to it–his back is very erect, perpendicular to the floor, supported on thighs that are bent deeply and are more parallel to the floor, at least that is how I picture him when I see him defending on the ball or driving the basket. That seems to be a position that he is habbituated to; whether that is a product or cause of his back troubles who could tell. Maybe me, but they’d have to pay me. Later, boyz.
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
4:44 pm
MsDee, all of your reasons point to improving Marvin’s stats for him coming off the bench. None of those address the major issues of perimeter defense, ball movement, and a couple more. The point of Marvin having a better stroke is huge considering the fact that at least 3-6 times a game JJ ends up passing out of a double team with 3-5 seconds on the shot clock. Those possessions are usually key because they happen at a critical point at the game when most teams start trying to make a run to get back in the game. I feel better having Marvin on the receiving of Josh’s pass (because usually Smoove is at the elbow and he swings it to the corner where Marvin is) than I would having Crawford. One main reason is Marvin shoots better, and Marvin is more likely to get back on defense after that attempt.
Marvin needs to improve but he needs to do it in the areas in the starting line up. There are also 9-14 possessions a game that are free even when JJ is in the game, and nothing happens on offense, or JJ doesn’t dominate the ball. Last season when Flip was in with JJ he didn’t defer to JJ, he played his game. Marvin can do the same thing in the starting line up. Marvin only needs 5-6 more attempts a game to get the result he is looking for. Its not as if he needs 10 more. And if Marvin can average 17-18 ppg, 8 rpg, and 4 apg, every coach on the team would be happy. But it would be done within the starting lineup and not putting the team in a bad position defensively.
Ariose
October 15th, 2009
4:45 pm
I don’t care about Mario either darnit, but if Dixon makes this squad somebody in that front office will hear from me. Anyway, he wont make the squad sice Craw and JJ can run the point as well….only one player gets the spot this season…my money’s on Mr. Energy not Mr. TRASH….
cp
October 15th, 2009
4:49 pm
lmao Ariose. I see that you are not a Dixon fan lol. I will put it like this. If Dixon is trash what does that say about Mario seeing how Dixon has out played him the whole pre season. Hmmmmm
Melvin
October 15th, 2009
5:02 pm
Since everyone wants so credit toward Teague nickname. Well, what about some Blog love for me. I was the one who first suggested that Teague needed a nickname. Check the archives. I’m the one who started the nickname debate and this is the thanks I get? No Blog Love for the Originator….
tjhook_76544
October 15th, 2009
5:04 pm
can I get a response on “Big League” Teague? JT-O is alright, but imagine the stadium announcer saying, ‘It’s Big League Teague on the dribble-drive for two!”
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
5:04 pm
Ramon,
Ok I hear you and what you say may be true, but again what good is that if Marvin himself doesnt see himself with big stats on a regular? JJ has the ball most of the time and when he does pass it, u are right, there is only 3-5 sec left on shot clock but its not Marvin receiving the ball, its Josh.. If Marvin is in the game when he is the main focus, he then becomes the go-to guy AND he performs. And we should not necessarily view too much negativity on Jamal Crawford and his defense liblities since he has never played on a team that really cared much about defense. He is now with a coach who speaks, sleeps, thinks, eat defense at all times, therefore, his focus on defense may be a whole lot better than his pass games. Lets wait until at least he plays a preseason game to judge his defensive skills. (that 1st preseason game doesnt count since he played all but 8 min while hurt)
tjhook_76544
October 15th, 2009
5:06 pm
Melvin, you never heard James Brown ever claim he invented funk music. We just recognized him. But thank you for the idea. What’s up with my suggestion?
Ramon
October 15th, 2009
5:13 pm
MsDee if JC was a younger player I would agree with you on the defense. But Woody ’speaking, sleeping, thinking, and eating’ defense hasn’t affected Bibby’s matador defense (lol). I find it hard to see it affecting JC’s as well. But you may be right. I just feel at this moment Marvin’s defense is more valuable to this team, than his offense. This teams need a perimeter shut down guy more than they need a 20 point scorer. This team can’t get out in the running floor without defensive stops. And I think long term, it would hurt the team more to take Marvin out of the line up, even when talking about seasons past this present one. If Marvin can only produce when he thinks he’s ‘the man’, then we need to get Dr. Phil, the Medicine Woman, or someone on line 1 right now lol. To me averaging 16 ppg while playing 32 minutes of good defense is better than Marvin averaging 18 ppg and only getting 23 minutes of good defense.
SWAT Native
October 15th, 2009
5:29 pm
tjhook,
I think that James Brown claimed to invent funk music, break dancing, rap, and everything that came along after him. I like “Big League” Teague, but he needs to earn that one.
BTW, why is it that Joe Johnson doesn’t have a nickname (J-J-J-Joe doesn’t count)? If we extend the tradition and make Teague J-Quik (I vote for without the “c”), why can’t Joe be J-Nice?
bigdave
October 15th, 2009
5:32 pm
im not a master at judging the “tenseness” in a release of a hook but it looked good to me…
i wouldnt say that it was a “line drive” attempt either, he missed because he had too much on it, unless he was trying to bank it home.. other than that, looked like a parabola…
nor did he “bump off his man”… he showed a strong flash, gave a target… made a step through move (could be confused with bumping off his man) ELEVATED OVER HIS DEFENDER (could have caused the miss) and got his shot up. see, his step through moved allowed Sims to create himself space for a hook attempt. if the defender did not back off he would have bumped Sims for a possible shot and foul.
i was impressed b/c the move was … he was also in control and not falling all off balance like the moves ive seen from our other low post player(s). he got a good look off and it was on line.
for a line drive hook… see Mutombo later years… by the way GET WELL DIKE… that ruptured tendon is taking a toll on the big fella…
the bigger issue here it that our low post offense has gotten bleak that we have given attention to something as suttle as a singular move in the pre-season.. but hey.. these are the times…
http://www.nba.com/video/games/grizzlies/2009/10/15/0010900056_atl_mem_recap2.nba/index.html?ls=gt1hp0010900056
0:54 for “the move” and miss…
bigdave
October 15th, 2009
5:34 pm
* “i was impressed b/c the move was (deliberate)”
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
5:36 pm
Ramon,
Ohh now I know you just didnt compare Bibby to Crawford now..lol..Bibby is so not Crawford plus Bibby is much older. Crawford wants to be on a playoff team, now that its happened, who knows what he would do on defense!!
Marvin can still be able to play tough defense early in the games. He could sub for JJ pretty early in games since Woody did say he would give JJ more rest this time around, allowing Marvin to still be able to guard the opponents best guy. Plus Mo Evans plays pretty good defense, I just dont think by Marvin coming off the bench will make a Huge set-backs in games.
cp
October 15th, 2009
5:38 pm
For some reason my post about Marvin’s numbers in the clutch keeps getting eaten by the blog monster… Alright I found an article talking about Marvin in the clutch. Ill just re type what it said. Not the whole article but the most important part.
According to Marvin’s clutch statistics… Clutch statistics are stats in the last five minutes with neither team up no more than five points…His adjusted shooting percentage on his jumpers is 78.6%. He also draws a foul 15% of the time. That is double the rate of Joe Johnson. His adjusted shooting percentage overall is 76.5% in these clutch moments.
The article does point out that the sample size is small and that the Hawks are +31 in these clutch moments when Marvin is on the floor. Seems to me he needs to be on the court during the clutch times of the game. We need to get his kid the ball more.
Melvin
October 15th, 2009
5:39 pm
tjhook_76544,
Funk music? Did you mean Soul music (i.e. Godfather of Soul). Your nickname sounds good but it may be too lengthy. JTO or J-Quik maybe more feasible for Ryan C to say during the games…
JerryWest,
“The ball goes from JT0 to JJ to JCrow to JSmithsonian to JSmoove for a monster jam”
While J-Chill is watching from the stands….dah..
newkid
October 15th, 2009
5:44 pm
All Jays most of the time.
Jay J
Jay Smoove
Jay Quik (Teague for his speed and quickness)
Jay Cross (Jamal for his killer crossover)
Jay Pop (Joe Smith for his seniority and pic ‘n pop skills)
Jay Son (Jason Collins)
and
Jay Stac or just “Stac” (whenever he’s added to the roster)
Yo Mamma
October 15th, 2009
7:02 pm
Dis blog not interesting! Call Jeff Teague what you want. Light bulb, ask Jeff Teague what he’d like to be called. Traditionally the Philips Arena is empty. Talk about a tradition that needs to be changed.
niremetal
October 15th, 2009
7:04 pm
You do realize that the two “J-” nicknames we had before stemmed from the players’ last names right? J-Smith/Smoove, J-Chill/Childress, and J-Johnson/J. J-Cross works for Crawford for same reason, but last I checked, our rookie’s name is not Jeff Quinn…
Yo Mamma
October 15th, 2009
7:06 pm
How about:
J Crabby- Jamal Crawford
J No League- Jeff Teague
J Shoke-Joe Johnson
J Wish He Was Smoove- Josh Smith
J Sucks- Josh Childress
J Losers- The Atlanta Hawks
Najeh Davenpoop
October 15th, 2009
7:31 pm
I like JT Money… they can play “Who Dat” when he shoots a 3.
I MUS WRITE
October 15th, 2009
8:47 pm
Perry Mason- Im yawwwwning man. D League MVP doesnt really mean much other than he was the “BEST PLAYER IN THE WHOLE DAM LEAGUE” that means guards,forwards and big men. Im looking at the numbers/size more so -20/10 could easily be 8pts/5-7 rebs if given minutes-… Solo,Blow Wright,and Shellhead wouldnt give you that type productivity
Bouboeau the rookie from France is a nice player….Alot of teams will be sorry they passed on him and JTO??? Jquick??? or whatever his new nicname is.
But for the luv of god – no “Sweet Teague”
Call the radio station????….Come on man…. and say what? “Hi my name is Salim fan,I mean Ariose and i want jeff’s new name to be JTO” …
SECURITY!!!!
I MUS WRITE
October 15th, 2009
9:07 pm
Ramon -I say dictator, but what would you do if u were constantly on the hot seat? Marvin,Crawford,Zaza off the bech would be okay by me, dont think it will ever happen…Sum people still think Marvin will be a great player, i say he ends up some where between Keith Van Horn and J.Mashburn
Thats Whass up Daniel if you see me hollar ….I wont be hard to find -Im going digital on the colors like i do every Opening game. Red White n Blue Plad pantz, White polo Bucks, White pea coat/Designer by Dior, I dont go out much any more, but when i do I.Mus as sharp as a razor….. Stay thirsy my friends LOL….
rusty
October 15th, 2009
9:11 pm
if jj stops dribbling & holding on to the ball so much all of our players will be better
I MUS WRITE
October 15th, 2009
9:12 pm
Designer tee.
Mike Recko and Saint Bernard!!!!
Drew Breeeeeeeeees!!!
Who Dat!!!….That commercial is funny as hell
MsDee
October 15th, 2009
9:16 pm
How about:
Yo Dummy–Yo Mamma
niremetal
October 15th, 2009
9:52 pm
…