First impressions
Rookie point guard Jeff Teague showed off his fearless side in the Hawks' preseason opening win over New Orleans.
HAWKSVILLE – You can thank the New Orleans Hornets for that skewed view of the Hawks the morning after their preseason opening romp at Philips Arena.
The Hornets’ refusal to treat the game like anything other than a glorified scrimmage (which, technically, it was) for the wave of good vibrations coming from the Hawks’ locker room after the game.
Aside from a staggeringly ridiculous 66 called fouls from the replacement stripes, this game didn’t resemble a “real” game in any form or fashion. But there were signs. Good first impressions were made by many.
A quick roundup of WWL (what we learned) from the Hawks’ 108-102 win over the Hornets:
PLAYER OF THE GAME: There’s no shame in going with the rookie here. Jeff Teague was asked to show his wares and he didn’t disappoint, scoring when asked and running the team as asked in his first real showing under the lights. Sure, Teague had a few jitters. But what rookie doesn’t on opening night? What I liked is that Teague’s on-court demeanor never seemed to change. He was in attack mode all along, challenging much bigger players at the rim constantly (hence the 7-for-8 showing from the free throw line). “You saw him,” Marvin Williams said. “You’ve seen what he can do in college. That man has thrown 6-9 and 6-10 cats in the basket, so he’s proved he’s not scared to go in the lane and do work. He played well. I thought he played really well.”
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE GAME: Mario West played his usual sticky defense and Josh Smith had a game-high two blocks and five defensive rebounds in short time. But it was Williams that stuck out the most, recording four steals and using every bit of his length and athleticism to cause problems for the Hornets. We started to see some signs of it last season when he harassed guys like Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James in impressive wins for the Hawks, so his improved defensive presence shouldn’t really be a surprise. The added dimension of an eager wing defender in a 6-9, 245-pound package is what should excite you.
ENERGIZER BUNNY OF THE GAME: As long as West is allowed to put on the uniform and hit the floor he’s going to win top honors here. Honestly, I’ve never seen a guy with this kind of consistent energy in the NBA. I know he’s worn slap out after games where he sees big minutes, as he did against the Hornets. West played 28 minutes, second only to Teague. And he made the most of them, piling up a game-high 11 rebounds to go along with his six points, four fouls, three turnovers, two assists and two steals. No one can accuse West of squandering an opportunity to shine. “It was good to play some extended minutes,” West said. “I just played hard like I always do and was able to get some buckets and make some plays on the defensive end. I didn’t realize I had 11 rebounds until the end of the game. I just went after the ball and did anything I could do to help the team succeed. Our starters did a real nice job setting the tone, and each guy that played was able to contribute.”
MOST STARTLING STATISTIC OF THE GAME: Forget the stripes for a minute and lock in on Smith’s donuts in the 3-point shots attempted and made columns. That’s pretty stuff if you’re one of those people that groan loudly every time he takes a shot outside of two feet. Smith vowed to steer clear of the 3-point arc and at least for one game, he stuck to it. Ha. While I could care less how many shots from deep that he attempts. What I did like was his clear-cut intention to create an inside presence offensively. Smith parked on the block repeatedly during his 21 minutes, and showed off several new moves around the basket that surprised even some of his biggest detractors. Granted, he did hoist a 19-footer on his second shot of the game (someone shouted, “No, No!” when he pulled up). But he drained it, much to the delight of that same fan, who conceded, “Oh, he must have worked on that this summer.”
QUIET STORM AWARD: The player that will benefit most from playing alongside Teague and Jamal Crawford this season has to be Zaza Pachulia. The veteran big man piled up 17 points and five rebounds in a workmanlike showing that should become custom for him this season. Pachulia won’t have to beg anyone for the ball when Crawford and Teague are running the show with the second unit. Crawford hit him with a couple of early passes that seemed to catch Pachulia off guard. Once ZP eased into his groove, though, he went to work and that inside work helped the Hawks hold of the Hornets’ late rally attempt. “I think the entire second unit played well,” Pachulia said. “It’s been the same way in practice and throughout training camp. But it’s early to talk about this. We have so much more time to go just in training camp. So it’s probably smart to wait until after training camp before we make any conclusions.”
QUOTE OF NOTE: “We really do have a number of different weapons up and down the roster. Anybody on this team can hurt you on a given night.” — Smith on the Hawks’ improved depth, which was on full display against the Hornets.
A quick training camp update from the former Hawks files, per my man Rusty Simmons from the San Francisco Chronicle:
Acie Law and Speedy Claxton are listed as Nos. 4-5 on the team’s point-guard depth chart. Both have been plagued by injuries and missed the preseason opener. They got their first action in Game 2’s 118-101 loss to the Lakers and fought for their careers.
They were the lone Warriors in the positive on plus-minus stats. Law scored 16 points on 11-of-12 free-throw shooting, had a 1-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio and was on the court for a plus-6 Golden State swing. Claxton had six points without missing a shot (1-for-1 field-goal shooting and 4-for-4 free-throw shooting) and had four assists with no turnovers in a plus-4 outing.
Law missed the first several days of training camp with a concussion and sprained neck. After being selected No. 11 overall by Atlanta in 2007, he averaged only 12.8 minutes a game.
“This is a make-it-or-break-it season for me,” Law said. “I’ve never gotten a chance, and this is it.”
Claxton has missed 387 games because of injuries or illness in his seven-season pro career. He didn’t play at all in 2000-01 or 2007-08 and played only two games last season.
“I don’t want to admit that it’s over, until it’s really over,” Claxton said. “It’s tough, but I love playing so much. It’s just tough to face the realization that it might be over.”
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J.J.M.
October 8th, 2009
3:04 pm
i saw josh smith at lenox mall(he was buying nba2k10) I asked him how he feels about the season he said “I never felt better”
Mike
October 8th, 2009
3:06 pm
Makes sense.
icecold
October 8th, 2009
3:08 pm
I didnt see the game so i just want to say a few things.. since the addition of crawford and teague who are very good with assist. josh smith will and should be all star this year. and his shooting percentage should go up. all the alley hoops thats going to be thrown this year.. he should average at least 22 this year… so i feel good about this year for him.. i trully believe that we are a top 8 team and a championship continder ( even though they wont say so, but they did the same thing the last three years, 1st year, they said we wouldnt make the play offs, then they said we wouldnt do it again since childress is gone, now they sayin well they the best of the worst in the east. SOME EXPERTS HUH.. LOL ) BUT ANY WAY…this year should be a good year, all the starters have gotten better, all the scrubbs have become decent back ups, and our new additions will contribute possitively….. and people sayin its jus a pre season game and bla bla blah, but the thing is..we won it and people showed what they could do. bottom line.. i mean a 30 point lead is a 30 point lead!!! image if the starters stayed in… but thats all i got to say!!! and i think a 60 win season might be reachable!!! watch!!!
icecold
October 8th, 2009
3:10 pm
sorry for the bad grammer!!! lol
icecold
October 8th, 2009
3:13 pm
and i think mike should still be the starter. but after this year. if teague is on the way to being a superstar, then we dont want to stunt his growth. so we can start teague next year, then let bibby come off the bench but still play starters minutes… he knew they drafted teague for a reason. he know the day will one day come where he has to come off the bench. and if it means win a championship, then thats even better!!!
icecold
October 8th, 2009
3:15 pm
and who knows.. we might can have three all stars this year!! its all about coaches voting. and if they deserve it.. they will get it!!!!!
theZaZaguy
October 8th, 2009
3:16 pm
I was at the game. I will say this. The starting five looked like a finely tuned machine. They new exactly what they wanted to do and they made it look easy. One other thing, the whole team seemed to have a certain “I don’t know what” to them. Maybe it’s because they were more relaxed, but something seems different. I think it’s called swagger.
Timbo
October 8th, 2009
3:18 pm
wink, that is where Mo Evans will come in . . .
Mike is back
October 8th, 2009
3:28 pm
Dan, agreed love Mario…pulling for him also…Siler greatest asset is his size and work men like mentally. Remember Mario and Hunter has been through this before…Teague was talking about how nervous he was…well multiply that times ten for a guy like Siler. He’s a project for sure…I think its safe to say who ever gets that last spot will be a project also. I think his attitude and work ethic will land him on some bodies roster this season…I hope it is the Hawks.
SWAT Native
October 8th, 2009
3:34 pm
Sekou, did anyone ever really debate the Crawford trade? I hope Acie is able to catch on with Golden State, though.
Didn’t get to the game last night, but was excited to see the crew on NBATV. Can’t wait for the opener!
One other comment I’ve been wanting to make. A lot of folks say that the Hawks didn’t do anything to displace any of the “Big Three” in the East. Has anyone thought that they may have made enough improvement to make it a “Big Four”? If they can get to 55 wins (and I think they have a good shot), they can go from being 10 games behind the 3rd seed to maybe a couple of games behind, which puts them at another level in the East.
cp
October 8th, 2009
3:57 pm
From watching that scrimmage its clear that Collins is way out of shape. Did they work the guy out before they signed him? If we only sign two more players it looks like it will be Hunter and Mario.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
3:57 pm
terrell barron
October 8th, 2009
11:03 am
THERE ARE MANY CENTERS IN THE NBA WHO ARE OFFENSIVE THREATS, MEANING YOU CANT LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED LIKE YOU CAN WITH zaza, HE SELF DESTRUCTS ON OFFENSE. I AGREE HIS ROLE HAS BEEN DIMINISHED AND HES JUST A SCRUBB OFF THE BENCH. GOOD POINT.
SHOUT OUT TO SEKOU FOR REMOVING MY EARLIER RESPONSE TO THE ZAZA SUPPORTER WHO BROUGHT RACISM INTO THE DISCUSSION OF ZAZA LACK OF TALENT AND. HE HAD MENTIONED THAT ZAZA SHOULD NOT LEAVE BECAUSE HE WAS THE HAWKS ONLY WHITE PLAYER AND I WAS RACIST FOR POINTING OUT THAT Z IS A SCRUBB. ALBEIT A 19 MILLION DOLLAR SCRUBB. SEKOU YOU SHOWED ME YOUR CHARACTER AND THAT WAS DIRTY POOL TO REMOVE MY RESPONSES. SO NOW YOU SENSOR CONTRASTING POINTS OF VIEW AND MICRO CONTROL THIS HATE CELL. THAT WAS VERY UNKIND OF YOU. YOUVE LOST MY RESPECT.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:01 pm
darrell starks
October 8th, 2009
12:50 pm
I dont disagree with you. Zaza worked very hard. He gets an A for effort. Only flip work as hard off the bench. After acknowledging that I will add he’s still a scrub. A hard working scrub. A scrub by any other name is still a scrubb.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:05 pm
KMP
October 8th, 2009
2:31 pm
I hope you are right about Z. I hope he elevates his game and takes his starting position back. I hope hes not satisfied with being a bench scrub and develop so offensive skills. That would make me happy. Right now hes a turnoverwaitingtohappen. His best assest is he will do the dirty work. I would not pay a guy 20million to do a job I can get done for a fourth of that.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:09 pm
Mike is back
October 8th, 2009
1:55 pm
I am so hoping that Siler pans out. he seems to have all the tools and the right attitude. I think in time if he develops we may crack the big thee.
Mike is back
October 8th, 2009
4:10 pm
SWAT Native, excellent observation…if the Hawks narrow the gap significantly between them and the Big 3 in the East…David Stern would personally make sure the Hawks are included in the mix.lol
However, we all know the Hawks will have to improve their pedestrian record on the road before anyone would consider them an elite team. I think blowing out the bottom feeders around the league would be a good start. heh heh
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Olajuwan
October 8th, 2009
4:11 pm
theZaZaguy, I agree that this team has a lot of swagger. They seem to be very confident. More so than last years bunch!
Mike is back
October 8th, 2009
4:13 pm
Big Nuttz, Ditto on Siler.
Lou Hudson
October 8th, 2009
4:14 pm
Ditto on the narrow the gap SWAT and Ditto on the Road Warrior necessity. Extra Ditto on the hope for Siler becoming the force needed in the middle.
KMP
October 8th, 2009
4:17 pm
Big Nuttz – You are entitled to your opinion and at one time I would have even agreed with your assesment of Big Z’s level of talent. However you must admit that Za Za now clearly has a defined roll with this team and he does bring value. He has improved on both ends of the floor and is one of the hardest working players on this team. What he lacks in talent, he clearly makes up with hustle and moxy. Hardly a scrub in my book. I’ve said my peace!
Dezz nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:26 pm
wink/Ken
October 8th, 2009
1:45 pm
Yes. Anybody can see that the Hawks have more tools to work with so Woodson doesnt have to rely on JJ. Duh. Youre negative attitude is the same. Hopefully the weak low post game weve had will improve. It should now that more of the players will have to guard a man, instead of clog the middle and force josh out side. You watch the game and see it through such negative eyes. Woodson hasnt changed! He working on developing the weak link in the team.Those guys in the post cant create their own shots so they need guard to create for them. Really good talent creates its own shot! You are blind and silly.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:28 pm
KMP
October 8th, 2009
4:17 pm
Well stated, I dont disagree with you. I cant rest with your perspective. Good post!
SWAT Native
October 8th, 2009
4:39 pm
Mike is back,
Commissoner Stern has personally assured me that if the Hawks can get within a few games of the 3rd seed he will make sure that Joe Johnson gets the same superstar calls that the other All Stars get…
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
4:43 pm
KMP
October 8th, 2009
4:17 pm
that is I can rest with your perspective
rms
October 8th, 2009
4:51 pm
When will Horford be a lowpost threat such as the Stoudamires and Duncans of the league?? If we can get Horford to be a serious threat down low along with Josh Smith play low and outside then we should be okay. Then need for a true center wont be really necessary.
Tony
October 8th, 2009
5:13 pm
rms I’m with you when will Horford become a threat down low. If that were to happen that would make us even more dangerous. Gasol-Bryant, Garnett-Pierce, Shaq-Lebron. When you have an inside threat and outside threat it will keep teams honest and like rms stated you don’t have to go out and get a guy because you have already developed him in house. Teague is an up and coming star. Like I stated back in August there are only three guys I would keep out of all the guys we had if I had to start a team (based on where they are NOW!!) and that would be: J-Smoove (PF), Marvin (SF), and Teague(PG).
Sekou Smith
October 8th, 2009
6:17 pm
Siler didn’t play long enough for me to see anything about him that I didn’t already know, Dan. He’s going to struggle with the speed of the game like any rookie big man would. His adjustment will be even tougher because he’s even bigger. But I’d want to see him in an expanded role before I write him off as just too slow.
wink
October 8th, 2009
6:21 pm
@Dezz nuttz 4:26pm
Just my observation of last night game per player; forgot to mention Hunter had a good game off the bench; it will be interesting to see who get last spot.
Also forgot Mo Evans will back up Marvin….
As for being negative, blind & silly ….never mind…lol
wink
October 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Sekou
I agree, Siler was in during mop up time. Needs to play meaningful minutes with a complete 1-5 lineup; played with 4 guards.
ILL-logical
October 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
Silo is a project: he will need at least two years of coaching (see Bynum,Andrew) to fulfill his potential and give the Hawks a legitimate presence in the middle. The question is w/not the current coach and management can or will commit to that. I believe that he has enough potential to warrent that kind of investment.
niremetal
October 8th, 2009
6:41 pm
It’s still mind-boggling to me that some people think that that a potential Bynum would go undrafted…
Dan
October 8th, 2009
6:45 pm
I agree, Sekou. He did not get many minutes and it always takes big guys longer to come around than guards/forwards. He is a project for certain, though. That is easy to see.
Wonder if there is any shot at keeping 14 instead of 13? Will be hard to cut Mario West. It would break my heart to see him get cut loose.
Dan
October 8th, 2009
6:49 pm
But, then….will Siler ever get quality minutes this preseason? Did not understand why it took so long to play him last night. I got the impression that they were as curious as we were to see how he would perform. Guess not…
Was Collins not planning on playing for a team this season? How did he let himself get so out fo shape? Was he hurt?
Sautee
October 8th, 2009
6:53 pm
nire,
Maybe he meant Will Bynum.
Sautee
October 8th, 2009
6:57 pm
Ill-logical,
Forgive my joke at your expense. I’m with you on thinking there’s “something” there with this kid. And yes, at least two years, and in this economy……..well we can hope.
The Truth
October 8th, 2009
7:01 pm
Frankly I don’t understand the negative under-current toward Siler from some so-call real Hawk fans. If I had to pick a project player, Siler is definitely it. As much as we have been yearning for size on this team, we should be jumping for joy at a chance to add this kind of depth. If you don’t already know, guys like him are not a dime a dozen. You question his speed? This guy is over 300 lbs of mass, bulky with long arms. Name me any player with his size that has better agility?
vava74
October 8th, 2009
7:12 pm
People are way to emotional when they talk about sports, its teams and players.
Siler is clearly miles away from being NBA ready.
Just by watching the media day it was evident that he was the player in worst physical shape, with lowest stamina (apart from Collins who I believe did not participate in the exercises) and less prepared technically.
He looks to be a very likeable fellow and it looks like is putting a lot of effort and everyone is rooting for him for many reasons including these ones.
However, one of the main reasons is that everyone would like the Hawks to have a diamond-in-the-rough-physical C in the middle and end up projecting that wishful thinking on the “day-dreaming” which is to think that the Hawks will be the “first” to find such a thing outside the draft and that diamond is Siler.
Let’s face it, right now Siler looks far less NBA ready than RandMo.
His footwork is poor, his FT is atrocious, … he basically lacks fundamentals. His main assets are his body size (which due to lack of conditioning is also – for the moment – hindering him) and the amount of goodwill surrounding him (which is something RandMo has justifiably lost on account of last year’s lack of performance and commitment).
Don’t get me wrong, I am the #1 guy wanting him to be successful. I would love that the Hawks actually pulled that one off (finding the diamond), however, this is far less likely than us cracking the top 3 seed and making it to the Conference finals this year.
MyView
October 8th, 2009
7:14 pm
Mz. Hawkdafied…….I’m lovin the post, and I really agree with you about the Hawks preseason intensity. That consistent intensity is what won so many games for Boston in 07-08, and for Cleveland in 08-09. If the Hawks bring that kind of fire nightly, along with good chemistry, I’ll say it right now, “55-60 wins” this season.
Cleveland did it last year with chemistry and confidence. They had LeBron. We have a better line-up. The Hawks come in with good cohesion, added depth, experience, and playoff experience. This is the season that the Hawks play with a swagger, both home and away.
Big Ray
October 8th, 2009
7:26 pm
Samuel ,
For clarification on a post from last blog: that wasn’t Woody hate. That was acknowledging two things:
1) Young players often deal with confidence issues. And it affects their game to a great degree. That’s basically what Joe was saying- your confidence is everything when you’re a young player. The talent can be there all day, but if you’re not confident, you’ll look like a scrub , even if you’re not. Funny how it’s so hard for some people to tell the difference between a scrub and somebody who simply has lost their confidence in themselves.
2) That was also acknowledging that Joe Johnson was being the leader and veteran teammate that he’s supposed to be. Never heard him say to Teague what he did before, and it takes a veteran player to say it. Besides, Woody said he was going to get on Teague’s butt.
Now somebody said it’s not the coach’s job to pat players on the back. I disagree. No, he’s not supposed to coddle them, but he IS supposed to supply some encouragement. That’s part of teaching and coaching, and any idiot can see that. At this juncture, I personally have NO problems with what Woody is doing with Teague. Hell, he’s been so positive about the guy. Anyway, didn’t want you to get the wrong idea about what I was saying. I just felt that the fact that JJ made that statement should confirm what many have thought: a lack of confidence can be all it takes to keep a player from being successful and appear to be lacking in skills…
Big Ray
October 8th, 2009
7:33 pm
Vava74 ,
“People are way to emotional when they talk about sports, its teams and players.”
You and Kirk would be perfect roommates….
Dan
October 8th, 2009
7:33 pm
The Truth, you are being a little too dramatic. I don’t think there is a “negative under-current” towards Siler. He is a project. That’s what he is. And, to answer your question….Shaq. That’s the name I come up with.
niremetal
October 8th, 2009
7:33 pm
The Truth,
Just about every 6′11 player in the NBA is significantly more agile than Siler, from what I’ve seen of him. As for people of his height and bulk, there frankly aren’t many – only Bynum and Shaq come to mind. And both, frankly, Bynum is WAY more agile than he is and Shaq is still somewhat more agile than he is.
There’s a reason guys who are built like football linemen rarely make it in the NBA. The NBA game is one of speed first and power second, and having a “big body” in the middle doesn’t provide much of an edge if that big body can’t move around very well – and sometimes it’s counterproductive. That’s been true even with guys taller than Siler, who is “only” 6′11 (just ask the Suns last year or the Cavs, who started making defensive substitutions for Ilgauskas back in ‘06).
The Hawks won’t cut a 6′11 guy with that build if he shows even flashes of quickness and agility. But I haven’t heard anyone – from Sekou to Micah to the people who watched the camp session or last night’s game – call him “agile.” Big and strong, yes. Agile? You are honestly the first person I’ve seen use that word to describe him. The other reports have been overwhelmingly to the contrary.
niremetal
October 8th, 2009
7:37 pm
And once again, I join all of those people who say that I’d rather us keep him than not. But I don’t think we should use a 15th roster spot on any training camp invitee, and I don’t think we should use a roster spot at all on him unless he shows signs that he will eventually be something other than an immovable mass.
Big Ray
October 8th, 2009
7:46 pm
A couple of observations on Jeff Teague. I think the jitters got to Teague’s jumper. But notice that he has no fear going to the basket, and knows that when the “J” ain’t falling, it’s time to drive. Good decision.
Also, sometimes the game doesn’t call for a pile of assists from the point guard. Sometimes it calls for the point guard to score. Ask Tony Parker. Ask Chris Paul. Ask Steve Nash (though I think he’d go into withdrawal if he didn’t get at least 7 assists in a game, dude really loves to pass). And guess what? If dude is not turning the ball over, and he’s scoring well, then who cares if he only gets a couple of dimes?
On the flip side, Teague’s attack style and excellent free throw shooting do not automatically translate into big minutes in his first season. He’s shown he has the skills, but Mike Bibby is still an old hand at this, and Teague will have to earn his minutes. I look for him to force his way into significant minutes as the season wears on. In the meantime, the Hawks are going to do what it takes to win. If Teague playing big minutes (whatever your definition of that is) helps that, then so be it. If not, then so be it.
And he’s going to make mistakes. Let’s not forget that.
Dezz Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
7:53 pm
wink/ken
October 8th, 2009
6:21 pm
My impression of your play analysis was a little more than you trying to justify your misguided view of Woodson. Its funny to me how so much in dept analysis in going on base upon so mean less a game. This is just a scrimmage. The Whole thing will change when we are play against starters who are not working on particular points of their game. Then we will see about all those rookie of the year projections and whose game has improved and whose hasn’t.
The Truth
October 8th, 2009
7:01 pm
Thanks for the positive and objective feed on Siler. I must agree. If we must have an experiment hes that man. From the film I saw he seems agile enough. I think he may be as mobile a Zaza but not as experienced.
Dezz Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
8:03 pm
rms
October 8th, 2009
4:51 pm
Tony
October 8th, 2009
5:13 pm
I can always tell true basketballers are kicking it. Great post and key insights.
Yes, If Horford could create his own shot and did not need to be set up that would change the dynamics of the post for the hawks. At that point they’d have to keep a body on him at all times. Last year he clearly had problems getting off a shot when the other teams went big and he doesn’t have the tools to have the offense run threw him at any point. Dont get me wrong. Horford is a blue collar Pf/C. When hes at center his force and impact is rather limited for what you need to spread the defense, open the lanes and deny the paint. Great vision guys.
Big Nuttz
October 8th, 2009
8:12 pm
Big Ray
October 8th, 2009
7:46 pm
Good feed but the question on my mind is how will he respond to the pressure of the opposition and the demands of the team when the game is real?!?! Thanks for the break down.
Melvin
October 8th, 2009
8:30 pm
It’s funny how some Hawks fans complaining about Joe but some analysis and other team fans appreciate the guy. Check out this Q&A from Hoopsworld…
“”new york has no chance of getting james next season or any of the big 3 free agents walshe is doing a worse job then isiah
Jason Fleming:
Truth be told, no one else has a chance either, but I like what Walsh is doing. He has a plan and they will come out of it with a couple players who will make this team good. Don’t look for Wade, LeBron, or Bosh – none of them will give up money to leave their current team, which they would have to do to sign with New York (and remember, NY has nothing to offer in a sign and trade). Instead, concentrate on Joe Johnson…he’ll make you a happy Knick fan.”"
Parser
October 8th, 2009
8:35 pm
Can anyone diagram this sentence for me? Anybody?
“Its funny to me how so much in dept analysis in going on base upon so mean less a game.”
Melvin
October 8th, 2009
8:41 pm
Ok, I found an excerise that would help ZaZa with his vertical leaping abilities…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrhQj_AHu4