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		<title>By: A Blog-Z State of Mind &#124; Hawks Blog &#8211; consolidationloanservicesstudent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-41492</link>
		<dc:creator>A Blog-Z State of Mind &#124; Hawks Blog &#8211; consolidationloanservicesstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tribe is dead on,I&#8217;ve talked to Mario plenty of times and we are exactly the same height -with that said at 6â²4 he is undersized for the pg/sg spots.So i say lets end the expirement/feel good story &#8230;. Earl Boykins . Link; Report this comment. ÃFÃ. October 5th, 2009 3:42 pm. v!vÂºÂºv!vÃÂ¢Â§Â«g.Â¤âºÂ». Link; Report this comment. Hoops. October 5th, 2009 3:44 pm. If Sekou is right and the Hawks are only going to sign one more player before the regular season starts, &#8230;More Here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tribe is dead on,I&#8217;ve talked to Mario plenty of times and we are exactly the same height -with that said at 6â²4 he is undersized for the pg/sg spots.So i say lets end the expirement/feel good story &#8230;. Earl Boykins . Link; Report this comment. ÃFÃ. October 5th, 2009 3:42 pm. v!vÂºÂºv!vÃÂ¢Â§Â«g.Â¤âºÂ». Link; Report this comment. Hoops. October 5th, 2009 3:44 pm. If Sekou is right and the Hawks are only going to sign one more player before the regular season starts, &#8230;More Here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lou hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32543</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not  say well Horford is going to score 14 ppg and 12 rbpg this year and that possibility puts him near Cowens and Malone. No, his numbers are mediocre and he compiled them playing against mediocre competition. People constantly say that Horford&#039;s numbers are decent against the weak centers of the league not realizing that if hes got average numbers against weak competition them he must be the average Al or less. Even if he did have a good year. I don&#039;t believe that would put him in Cowens and Malone company.
I count Cartwright as a center not a power forward. He may not have been the scorer but he was a force and you could not leave him unattended. He could finish.That team did have luc longley also.

Im not sure that I am one to believe that star power wins games. That only helps when the refs give you that extra super star step in going to the rack or that you cant breath on him phantom foul going to the line. Other than that. being a super star just sells jerseys. 

We have a difference of opinion on whether to build around a center or a point guard. We agree that both are&quot; natural&quot; positions.

Either way I think we agree on more than we disagree. I hope the hawks have a good season and you a good night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not  say well Horford is going to score 14 ppg and 12 rbpg this year and that possibility puts him near Cowens and Malone. No, his numbers are mediocre and he compiled them playing against mediocre competition. People constantly say that Horford&#8217;s numbers are decent against the weak centers of the league not realizing that if hes got average numbers against weak competition them he must be the average Al or less. Even if he did have a good year. I don&#8217;t believe that would put him in Cowens and Malone company.<br />
I count Cartwright as a center not a power forward. He may not have been the scorer but he was a force and you could not leave him unattended. He could finish.That team did have luc longley also.</p>
<p>Im not sure that I am one to believe that star power wins games. That only helps when the refs give you that extra super star step in going to the rack or that you cant breath on him phantom foul going to the line. Other than that. being a super star just sells jerseys. </p>
<p>We have a difference of opinion on whether to build around a center or a point guard. We agree that both are&#8221; natural&#8221; positions.</p>
<p>Either way I think we agree on more than we disagree. I hope the hawks have a good season and you a good night.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekou Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32467</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekou Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New blog is up if you wanna migrate over. New blog up.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32462</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou:  Some good points..I do not agree that it is easier to win w/o a pg than without a Center---The reality is teams have won multiple championships without true centers---The Bulls with Longley, Cartwright, etc---yes they had Jordan, Pippen and they also had only serviceable PG&#039;s--In the NBA it is ALL about match-ups and teams have won with Kendrick Perkins at center and Derrick Fisher at PG--is there star power at the other match-up spots??  I think you will see in the range of 14 -12 averages for Horford this year...please remember that Cowens played in an inflated numbers era as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou:  Some good points..I do not agree that it is easier to win w/o a pg than without a Center&#8212;The reality is teams have won multiple championships without true centers&#8212;The Bulls with Longley, Cartwright, etc&#8212;yes they had Jordan, Pippen and they also had only serviceable PG&#8217;s&#8211;In the NBA it is ALL about match-ups and teams have won with Kendrick Perkins at center and Derrick Fisher at PG&#8211;is there star power at the other match-up spots??  I think you will see in the range of 14 -12 averages for Horford this year&#8230;please remember that Cowens played in an inflated numbers era as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GA Bulldawg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32457</link>
		<dc:creator>GA Bulldawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ÛFØ asked: Should JJ be traded? 

Well let me ask you this: Are you ready to face the possibility that the Hawks will be trading for a one-way ticket to the NBA draft lottery if this occurs?? Are you aware that he is the reason our team made the playoffs the last 2 seasons? Do you realize that the Hawks management will lose most of the fanbase if JJ is traded??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ÛFØ asked: Should JJ be traded? </p>
<p>Well let me ask you this: Are you ready to face the possibility that the Hawks will be trading for a one-way ticket to the NBA draft lottery if this occurs?? Are you aware that he is the reason our team made the playoffs the last 2 seasons? Do you realize that the Hawks management will lose most of the fanbase if JJ is traded??</p>
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		<title>By: hawks_4_life</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawks_4_life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel

Its on!!!</description>
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<p>Its on!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The non mental prophet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32449</link>
		<dc:creator>The non mental prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predict the world will end Oct 31. Please stay home.</description>
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		<title>By: Lou Hudson.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32448</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Hudson.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their league</description>
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		<title>By: Lou Hudson.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/10/05/a-blog-z-state-of-mind/comment-page-3/#comment-32447</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Hudson.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just pull this(wiki) for conversation, by the way when horford averages 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds then I call him a natural center. You make my point about natural ability. I don&#039;t think Horford is to be compared to Dave. Even in Cowens rookie year he was 17ppg and 15 rbpg. Horford was nowhere near those numbers. Neither can he be compared to Moses who was even smaller in his rookie year. Both Cowens and Malone were natural center who thrived and produced great numbers. Its a natural position. Not completely about size.

Horford is a power forward. Please don&#039;t dishonor Cowens and Moses with those comparisons. Hes not close to there league.



NBA career

Despite some critics who felt Cowens was too small to play center, Cowens was selected as the fourth overall pick by the Boston Celtics during the 1970 NBA Draft, largely at the recommendation of former Celtics center Bill Russell.[1] During his rookie year, Cowens averaged 17.0 points per game and 15.0 rebounds per game, and shared the NBA&#039;s Rookie of the Year honors with Portland&#039;s Geoff Petrie. He also led the league in personal fouls that same year.

In 1973, Cowens averaged 20.5 ppg and 16.2 rpg while helping the Celtics to a league best 68-14 record. He was chosen the NBA MVP as well as MVP of the All-Star Game that same season.

During his NBA career, Cowens averaged 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds per game, was selected to seven All-Star Games, was named to the All-NBA Second Team three times, and was named to the All-NBA Defensive First Team in 1976 and All-NBA Defensive Second Team in 1973 and 1980. He was a member of the Celtics&#039; 1974 and 1976</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just pull this(wiki) for conversation, by the way when horford averages 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds then I call him a natural center. You make my point about natural ability. I don&#8217;t think Horford is to be compared to Dave. Even in Cowens rookie year he was 17ppg and 15 rbpg. Horford was nowhere near those numbers. Neither can he be compared to Moses who was even smaller in his rookie year. Both Cowens and Malone were natural center who thrived and produced great numbers. Its a natural position. Not completely about size.</p>
<p>Horford is a power forward. Please don&#8217;t dishonor Cowens and Moses with those comparisons. Hes not close to there league.</p>
<p>NBA career</p>
<p>Despite some critics who felt Cowens was too small to play center, Cowens was selected as the fourth overall pick by the Boston Celtics during the 1970 NBA Draft, largely at the recommendation of former Celtics center Bill Russell.[1] During his rookie year, Cowens averaged 17.0 points per game and 15.0 rebounds per game, and shared the NBA&#8217;s Rookie of the Year honors with Portland&#8217;s Geoff Petrie. He also led the league in personal fouls that same year.</p>
<p>In 1973, Cowens averaged 20.5 ppg and 16.2 rpg while helping the Celtics to a league best 68-14 record. He was chosen the NBA MVP as well as MVP of the All-Star Game that same season.</p>
<p>During his NBA career, Cowens averaged 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds per game, was selected to seven All-Star Games, was named to the All-NBA Second Team three times, and was named to the All-NBA Defensive First Team in 1976 and All-NBA Defensive Second Team in 1973 and 1980. He was a member of the Celtics&#8217; 1974 and 1976</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Marcel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enter your comments here Realize it was no actual game situation, but Dixon looked awfully good on the NBA training camp last evening.Needs to find that right situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enter your comments here Realize it was no actual game situation, but Dixon looked awfully good on the NBA training camp last evening.Needs to find that right situation.</p>
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