Jamal Crawford's already stirred things up in practice. Hawks fans should expect more of the same all season long from the gifted scorer and passer.
HAWKSVILLE – We’re a week into training camp and one thing is clear, this Hawks team set to take the floor this season is a much improved bunch from the one that left the floor in that series against Cleveland to end last season.
How much better is still up for debate.
But it’s clear that this team has a chance to get back to where it finished last year and perhaps beyond, based on the early vibes emanating from the Hawks’ practice court.
“This is by far the best group and the best first week of camp we’ve had in my time here,” one keen observer noted after Sunday’s practice. “Not since Steve Smith and Mookie Blaylock have we had a group like this that could get it from the first guy through 12.”
Watching Jamal Crawford explode the way he did in Sunday’s scrimmage was the first real indicator of just how deep and potentially explosive this team could be. He didn’t just attack the Blue team (starters and a couple reserves), he went directly at Joe Johnson (haven’t seen anyone do that before now either) with the scrimmage on the line and finished (Joe had an open look from the corner that could have won it for the Blue team but his jumper didn’t fall). While it was a bit of a shock to the system of those that have been watching the Hawks the past few years, Crawford didn’t seem particularly fazed by his performance. I mean, he’s not cocky in the least bit but the man knows he’s good. He knows he can score at will, regardless of who is trying to guard him. I think everyone else knows it now.
“With Jamal and Jeff Teague, we have a dynamic we haven’t had since I’ve been here,” said Hawks forward Josh Smith. “We’re bringing two guards off the bench that can score every bit as good as our starting guards. That’s a nasty group right there, when you can put your backup guards in and still keep the pressure on. If we do it right, we’re going to be coming at you from so many different angles that you’re going to need a while to figure out where it’s coming from. And hopefully by then, we’ll have shifted into another gear on you and made you think it all over again. It’s going to be fun to see us in action once we get this thing cranked up.”
Everyone seems to have an opinion. So what better time to tap our friendly neighborhood Hater of the Millennium for his take on all things Hawks? Blog-Z has been in attendance for all of the portions of camp outsiders have been allowed to view (and thanks to the Mad VP and the media alert being on red, we haven’t seen as much as we’re used to). So we asked him for some quick thoughts on camp and what it’s looked like from his perspective.
Hawks Blog: So you saw Jamal Crawford get loose Sunday, how good was he?
Blog Z: He was crazy good. But the thing he and Jeff Teague bring that no one is talking is about is that they push JJ and Mike Bibby to play at a higher level, even in practice. Bibby’s been as good as anyone in training camp. He’s shooting lights out. He’s defending and finding guys in stride and he’s leading the team the way you’d expect from a seasoned veteran. But yeah, even the hater in me can’t deny that these guards are going to make for an interesting mix. They’re just so explosive on the offensive end. And Crawford’s best and probably most underrated asset is that he’s a much more complete player than he gets credit for. It’s scary how good he is when you consider all the mess he’s taken over the years for being on crappy teams.
HB: So maybe you’re more excited about this team than you were earlier in the summer, when you said you didn’t see any major improvements and that this team has no chance of shaking up the top three of the Eastern Conference?
BZ: And maybe you’re more interested in writing scripts than you are reporting what someone actually said. Read my lips player, I remain committed to the facts. The Hawks didn’t go crazy this summer and find that missing piece to the championship puzzle. Don’t get ahead of yourself. Crawford is a monster addition. he’s going to be great in this town, on this team and in the role they have slotted for him. But he alone isn’t the answer to the bigger question of whether or not this team (as presently constituted) is capable of challenging for a top three spot. I say no.
HB: Will you at least admit that this team has a chance to shock some people this season?
BZ: I won’t admit to anything. And these “people” you’re talking about, where might they be? I saw what the national experts had to say about the Hawks this season. They don’t seem particularly convinced that this team is going to shock the world. Now one of my guys, you all know him as RA, took offense to what the experts had to say. He sent me this email Sunday:

Knocking off Miami in seven games last year wasn't enough for Josh Smith and the Hawks to convince the national pundits that they are for real.
Thanks for showing what the rest of the sports writing universe has to say about our Hawks, but in reading their…appraisals, I noticed several glaring omissions:
Ian Thomsen mentions implies that Hawks ownership is cheap and while he does add that the moves that they’ve made this offseason were all “winning moves” he does not fully explore the impact that those moves can make. For example, what is it going to mean for this team to have Crawford, who can come in and spell Joe Johnson while at the same time being able get his own shot from anywhere and set up his teammates. What is it going to mean to have Joe Smith’s experience and physical play on the roster, and Collins who gives the Hawks another big body off the bench that they just didn’t have before? I feel like those additions were simply dismissed as bargain basement pickups representing an unwillingness (or inability) of the Hawks brass to go out and get front line talent. I feel that his assessment is incomplete, at best.
As for A.J. Adande’s assertions that the Hawks don’t have star power, I beg to differ. Joe Johnson has become a perennial all-star, Mike Bibby was making his bones in the Western Conference finals when Howard was cutting his wisdom teeth, and Josh Smith is pound for pound one of the most exciting players in the game. Now, none of the aforementioned have any championships, but last time I checked neither did [Dwight] Howard or King James. Also, if the Detroit Pistons of the early 90’s taught us anything, it’s that you don’t have to have a “Superstar.” You just need depth, talent, and proper leadership. I feel that Mr. Adande is ignoring the fact that at least two of these factors, possibly three, are in place.
Of all the experts that you cited, I feel that [Yahoo! Sports' Marc] Spears was the most fair. Of course, I think that he should have reserved his statement about the Hawks not finishing strong in the playoffs. The Hawks had three starters who were either out or hobbled in the second round vs. Cleveland. To be honest, they made a much better showing in games three and four than I ever would have expected. Under the circumstances of what they were dealing with, I don’t know many teams that could have done better and very few that might have done as well.
Like I said, I don’t think that the journalism for Atlanta has been fair or balanced, but I do hope that other teams take it seriously because it would be nice to sneak up on a few teams, although I doubt very seriously that that’s going to happen…
HB: Man, you’re a complete hater. You’ve even got RA hating on the national cats. I know Michigan got popped Saturday by Michigan State an all, but can’t you let go of your personal biases long enough to talk Hawks? I mean, surely you’ve seen some things in Hawks’ training camp that please you?
BZ: You would bring up the Michigan game (ya little punk). I ought to slap the … what was the question again?
HB: Some things that please you so far?
BZ: I didn’t say this group wasn’t impressive. It’s clear they’ve got a core group of about 10 players capable of competing against anyone on a given night. They had an adequate group last year and they added a couple of good players to that mix. But I’m not ready to anoint them or anything. I’m just taking a wait and see approach to this season, like most wise observers would. A good first week of training camp has never won anything. In fact, there isn’t much this team can show me in the preseason that will sway me one way or the other. I need to see what they at the end of this season and in the playoffs. That’s when they can prove to me that they’re moving into that upper echelon. Pump your brakes son. Building all these off the wall expectations and feeding all this hype is what will land a team in the hole if things don’t start right once the real games begin.
HB: Well, what about the guys trying to snag that final roster spot. Has anyone caught your eye?
BZ: I could make a reasonable case for just about every single guy. Othello Hunter’s activity and potential make him an enticing candidate. Same goes for Frank Robinson. With Mario West I know what I’m getting, and it’s usually all good because his motor revs at all times. Courtney Sims has the size and skill set you want in a big but I don’t know if he makes sense either. Aaron Miles has probably been the most surprising guy of the bunch for me, only because I didn’t realize he was this good. And what you get in experience with Mike Wilks and Juan Dixon makes up for their lack of ideal size and bulk at the position [point guard]. The one guy that keeps coming back into my head is the big boy, Garret Siler. He’s going to find a spot somewhere, maybe not this year but eventually, and you’d hate to have him now and let him go only to see him show up a year or two now helping some other team. And with all that said, there might be a better player and a better fit that falls through the training camp crack elsewhere. In any respect, this is a good problem to have, watching eight guys scrap it out for one roster spot. Another benefit of having a quality group like this is that if you need a replacement player throughout the season for any reason, you can reach back and grab one of these guys that showed well during training camp.
HB: For some super hater, you’re not nearly as nasty as you’ve been in the past. What’s with nice routine?
BZ: There’s nothing nice going on here partner. I’m just a little under the weather right now. All this rain has me in the dumps. But I’ll be back and hating better than ever before too long.
HB: So we can hit you up in a few weeks for some post training camp assessments?
BZ: There you go making stuff up again. I didn’t say all that chump. Lose my number!
289 comments Add your comment
Daniel
October 7th, 2009
11:24 am
Hoops- I think it will be the Nets.
darrell starks
October 7th, 2009
11:41 am
Hoops i think it can be the hawks but if i was gm i would trade joe for igg and let marvin walk next year and sign D WADE WHAT YOU THINK HOOPS.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
October 7th, 2009
11:44 am
HOOPS I WOULD LIKE THIS TEAM
STARTE BIBBY, D WADE, IGG, JOSH, HORFORD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
niremetal
October 7th, 2009
12:06 pm
What is a vet,
I said this in my earlier post:
If Josh were just starting to talk like that now, there probably wouldn’t be an issue, but something tells me that this back-and-forth has been going on pretty consistently since he was a fresh-out-of-HS rookie.
People who are viewed as young, brash, and petulant early on usually retain that rep even when they grow up. Allen Iverson and Terrell Owens are exhibits 1A and 1B. Now again, I don’t think Josh is that bad, but it’s not like these clashes just started last year. I remember them happening starting in his second year (and for all I know, they may have happened even when he was a rook).
My guess is that Mike Bibby didn’t talk to Rick Adelman even after he’d been in the league three years. Webber, Divac, and Christie were the guys that had seniority, not him. He seemed to be relatively quiet on the court back then. But by the end of the Kings’ mini-dynasty, when those guys had moved on or moved down, he became more vocal on and off the court.
And perhaps most importantly, who ever said this was an all-or-nothing thing? I bet Josh could get away with it moreso than Othello Hunter or Jeff Teague could. There’s no bright line. The longer you’re in the league and the more minutes you play, the more capital you build up. Bibby has more capital than anyone on the team, because he’s a veteran, a starter, and someone with experience on elite teams.
Also, the tone of your voice and the timing of your words makes a difference, as does how often you make your voice heard. My guess is that Horford doesn’t jabber nearly as much as Josh (or Bibby) does and he probably never talks in situations where his words could be taken as a challenge to Woody’s authority. That’s just speculation, but if Horford gets away with stuff that Josh can’t (which I can’t speak to), it’s an explanation that makes sense based on how things work in the rest of the world.
It’s not an exact science. But in basketball as anywhere, vets can get away with stuff that less experienced players can’t. I think it’s starker than it is in most places because of Woody, but I also think that on any team in the league, Bibby would be able to get away with stuff that Josh couldn’t.
niremetal
October 7th, 2009
12:07 pm
*My guess is that Mike Bibby didn’t talk to Rick Adelman even after he’d been in the league three years the way he talks to Woody now.
Truth-Serum
October 7th, 2009
1:03 pm
Boy, Acie Law looked good in his rookie scrimmaging. Rumeal Robinson looked even better…
Here’s to you Mr Robinson, Jesus loves you more than you can know, Where have you gone Mr Robinson,
Sekou turns his lonely eyes to you…God bless you please Mr. Robinson, (join in anytime guys) heaven holds a place for those who pray, for a center, in Atlanta, hey hey hey.
What is a vet?
October 7th, 2009
1:24 pm
This is exactly my point. “Your guess” We don’t know. You do realize that Woodson got into with Salim,Zaza, Al Harrington,Shelden, Marvin, Acie and AJ among others. You have a valid point about being a vet. Also about your tone and appproach which are all things Smith probably needs to work on. I just think you judge him more harshly than other players. Hey, we can agree to disagree but everyone on the team has their flaws. Also, the coach plays a major part regarding the situation. When the other team got a stop and the ball went out of bounds Woodson gave them credit. When the starters did it he didn’t. I don’t see what is wrong about questioning that. To Woodson’s credit not giving his starters fouls going to the basket will probably make them tougher during an actual game.
Dezz Nuttz
October 7th, 2009
1:25 pm
Non mentol neefs ot giet a lief. Howe kan eone man hae so Mochud ree tome.
Mike N.
October 7th, 2009
1:27 pm
Where have you gone, Anakin Joe
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you
What’s that you say, Mr. Robinson
Anakin Joe has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey
Lou Hudson(co-signed by pistol pete)
October 7th, 2009
1:32 pm
Somebody tell that son of a B!tch Sund that my man Woodson cant win in this league with out a center. Who in the L can win a championship with this mediocre powerforward at center. Its amazing what Woodson has done with that guy at the post. On a championship hawk team hes a backup behind Josh so how can this SOB be the starting center and we have serious aspirations about a championship….what the L?
Bob Weiss
October 7th, 2009
1:45 pm
Its amazing what a non story Woodson is outside of this blog’s hate cell. Youd think there was a controversy or that Woodson had failed terribly to help the kids grow up and stay focused on the game while increasing there talents,unity and win totals every year. Excuse me. This guy with number 9 in the NBA coaches poll and highly acclaimed by sports journals. Why is there such an obsession with him here in this hate cell lead by the bubba posse? Out side of this hate circle there is no Woodson issue.
If the bubba crew gets woodson fired can I have my job back? They liked me better.
Bob Weiss
October 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Their talents
vava74
October 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
Ariose,
Thank for the correction on the play Woody called. I still consider that he should not question the way his coach designs plays, much less when he has a mic on him and being broadcasted live.
Also, from what you describe of the play, Woody was right and Josh wrong.
In relation to the second part of my post, I did not mentioned that Josh was questioning a call by a ref, which is something he does too often and does not know how to do properly – if you want to do it, you need to be smoother and not have so many outbursts which single him out as a whiner.
What I mentioned on my post was an episode where after a call by Woody during an half court scrimmage exercise where a team had to get a defensive stop to get the ball back (or 2, I don’t remember exactly), Josh questioned the rules of the exercise.
Again, I would like to say that I liked what I saw from him in general, however, I expected him to be more mature.
Big Ray,
I never said that Josh was dumb, but that his knowledge of BBall is limited. He is a physical freak and should learn how to use his ability better than he does.
Also, your examples is spot on and in my favour: Tony Parker learned the game and certainly stopped questioning Pop soon after his entry into the NBA. Now look at him and at his rings.
Iverson never really learned the game (this is a team sport) and after he lost Larry Brown’s tutelage his career headed only one way…
Josh has been around sufficient years to learn to behave. He does not seem to be evolving on that front and that, I can guarantee you, will hinder his career if he does not make amends immediately.
What is a vet?
If you think that questioning your Coach is being more of a leader in the team, then nothing that I can say to you will make a difference.
BBall is a team sport, hence the practice of coordinated movements (plays) is essential for the success of the team.
Bob Weiss
October 7th, 2009
1:58 pm
Woodson recommending fighting though picks? hummm I thought the bubba crew said he was recommending switching. Oh. That was one of their many smear tactics. By the way it wont be difficult to force Horford the power forward around in the paint. I agree with Lou Hudson(co-signed by pistol pete) At his true best horford is a backup pf behind Josh on a championship caliber team. The fact that hes a starting center on the hawks speaks volumes about their level of play.
wordsmithtom
October 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
No center? Would you kindly explain, Sweet Lou, how our center is only 1 inch shorter and 10 lbs lighter than one of the two best centers of the last decade: Tim Duncan? Hmmmm. Maybe he’s not your idea of a center; but the Hawks have a center, and a good young one; one with heart…one with game. Keep smokin what you’re smokin’
Enter your comments here
Truth-serum
October 7th, 2009
2:01 pm
Or lack thereof Mr Weiss
Lou Hudson
October 7th, 2009
2:08 pm
Size in not the only physical necessity for being a center. Its amazing that you would even argue a point that is clear and obvious to most professional sports journal. Horford is undersize,underweight and a power forward with limited offensive skills. No brainer. I like the guy but he’s not a center, but a decent powerforward. I wish you understood the center player and positon better. When you do, come back and will have the conversation on the more mature level.
Bob Weiss
October 7th, 2009
2:11 pm
Bob Weiss
October 7th, 2009
1:45 pm
This guy was number 9
Samuel
October 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Alright you “Scrubbs”,
The official Fantasy League for this year is up and running. A lot of you guys like to talk sh_t.
Go to yahoo Fantasy basketball:
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/
League name: SekousBloggers
User ID#:213814
password: hawks
We’ll start with the 1st ten, if we need to expand, we will.
niremetal
October 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
What is a vet,
I don’t see how I’m being harsh on Josh. Again, if you’ll read my post from yesterday on this, I said that I actually don’t think that Josh is much more childish than most NBA players are, and that I think Woody needles and picks at Josh at least somewhat moreso than he does with other players. Don’t see how that’s judging him harshly at all.
The ONLY point I was making is that there’s no inherent hypocrisy or unfairness in the fact that Bibby gets away with stuff that Josh doesn’t couldn’t, unless you want to condemn nearly every team sport (be it baseball, football, or basketball), profession (be it retail work, a law firm, or the US Senate), and social group (be it a frat, singing group, or music roadies) for treating vets and newbies differently.
Zaza Pachulia
October 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
Look, I really can jump more than 3 inches. I tipped the meter at four once, in high school. Yes, I can run, try me, say “free hamburgers” Im there. Who cares if I cant shoot, run, block shots? Who care if everybody dunks on me? Huh? Who freakin cares? We are only going to finish in fourth place and bow out in the second round anyway. The bottom line is I got my pay check. Thats why Josh and I are fooling around, we got paid!” So stop hating me on this blog. So what in my second year I became the hawks starter and now Im just a back up, who cares? I got paid! Call me Koncak if you like. Well maybe I am a lot like him. Cant run,shoot jump or free throw, but we both got paid.!!!
Hoops
October 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Daniel,
I think for D. Wade to be interested in the Nets, they are going to have to really have a break out season. D. Wade wants to go to a contender!
If the Hawks have a break out season and have a choice between re-signing JJ or going after D. Wade, it will be real interesting to see which player they go after!
darrell starks,
I believe I would have to get more than Iggy for JJ. I really believe the Hawks will have so much balance this season that many teams will have a tough time matching up with their depth! I don’t see the Hawks trading JJ at all this season. I think he is too valuable to loose right now!
Daniel
October 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
thanks samuel!!!
Mike Woodson
October 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
Well you guys have given me and my players a hard time with this Bubba Crew stuff. Im going to shake things up this year to win your support. You know how important you are to me…
Koncak..Im mean ZaZa is moving to small forward to help when I do my switching defense you guy like so much. Im going to post bibby up to save time since they are going to back him down anyway. Josh is moving to the point. sh!t he always leads the breaks any way. Ive got Chilldress in three point country. He should get four if he makes shots from Europe. Ive got horford coming of the bench. I figure if he sits next to ZaZa’s hamburger bag he may gain weight. Im going to bench JJ also because you guys are upset that he did not sign his contract. That should teach him, by time I let him off the bench he will sign. NO SIGN NO PLAY!
All and all this should be an exciting year. I look forward to you guys supporting me and the team like you always do….You guys are really sharp. By taking all of the advice you offer here im sure to be………
out of coaching next year.
Thanks guys.
Why is Bob Weiss licking his chops?!
Lou Hudson.
October 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Ditto on the JJ too valuable a part of the hawks. Nice, quiet leadership!
hawks_4_life
October 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
Samuel
I dont write alot due to the fact im deployed, am I welcome to play in the league too?
Doug
October 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
Sweet Lou: Have to agree that your point is, at best, overstated. Horford is playing center and playing it better that over half the centers in the league statistically. Is Greg Oden a center?? 8 ppg- 7 rpg- 1 bpg?? So he’s not equal to Duncan, Dwight, Shaq…a few more…let’s get Erik Dampier and throw his useless 7′1″ 285 lbs frame out ther?? There are alot of different ways to get the job done…ask Dave Cowens….could he be a better power forward? Yes. Would it be ideal if we had a 7′0″ 290 pounder at center? Depends…on who it is and how they would function with the other parts.
Lou Hudson.
October 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Doug. You and I agree…well almost completely. There are quite a few power forwards acting as centers. On that we agree. It makes it easier for horford to compete because so many of the lesser teams use the PF to play center. My charge is to get to the higher levels and compete you have to have a center. Ive clearly said that being a center in not synonymous with a certain physique. Of course it does not hurt to be 275,7′ and athletic. Not at all. but that’s not a center totally. Its a natural position just like point guard is a natural position. Im not going to waste the energy to enlighten the less knowledgeable as to what those characteristics are. Just suffice it to say Horford is a power forward and a good one, but not great. Josh is better.
Horford is no center.
Bottom line is I agree with your view, almost totally, however I feel it is easier to win without a point guard than it is to win (championships) with out a center.
Samuel
October 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
Hawks 4 life,
We’d be honored to have a “real vet” like yourself. Warning though, no mercy!!
Rick Marcel
October 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
Enter your comments here Realize it was no actual game situation, but Dixon looked awfully good on the NBA training camp last evening.Needs to find that right situation.
Lou Hudson.
October 7th, 2009
4:42 pm
Just pull this(wiki) for conversation, by the way when horford averages 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds then I call him a natural center. You make my point about natural ability. I don’t think Horford is to be compared to Dave. Even in Cowens rookie year he was 17ppg and 15 rbpg. Horford was nowhere near those numbers. Neither can he be compared to Moses who was even smaller in his rookie year. Both Cowens and Malone were natural center who thrived and produced great numbers. Its a natural position. Not completely about size.
Horford is a power forward. Please don’t dishonor Cowens and Moses with those comparisons. Hes not close to there league.
NBA career
Despite some critics who felt Cowens was too small to play center, Cowens was selected as the fourth overall pick by the Boston Celtics during the 1970 NBA Draft, largely at the recommendation of former Celtics center Bill Russell.[1] During his rookie year, Cowens averaged 17.0 points per game and 15.0 rebounds per game, and shared the NBA’s Rookie of the Year honors with Portland’s Geoff Petrie. He also led the league in personal fouls that same year.
In 1973, Cowens averaged 20.5 ppg and 16.2 rpg while helping the Celtics to a league best 68-14 record. He was chosen the NBA MVP as well as MVP of the All-Star Game that same season.
During his NBA career, Cowens averaged 17.6 points and 13.6 rebounds per game, was selected to seven All-Star Games, was named to the All-NBA Second Team three times, and was named to the All-NBA Defensive First Team in 1976 and All-NBA Defensive Second Team in 1973 and 1980. He was a member of the Celtics’ 1974 and 1976
Lou Hudson.
October 7th, 2009
4:43 pm
Their league
The non mental prophet
October 7th, 2009
4:47 pm
I predict the world will end Oct 31. Please stay home.
hawks_4_life
October 7th, 2009
5:25 pm
Samuel
Its on!!!
GA Bulldawg
October 7th, 2009
5:30 pm
ÛFØ asked: Should JJ be traded?
Well let me ask you this: Are you ready to face the possibility that the Hawks will be trading for a one-way ticket to the NBA draft lottery if this occurs?? Are you aware that he is the reason our team made the playoffs the last 2 seasons? Do you realize that the Hawks management will lose most of the fanbase if JJ is traded??
Doug
October 7th, 2009
6:04 pm
Lou: Some good points..I do not agree that it is easier to win w/o a pg than without a Center—The reality is teams have won multiple championships without true centers—The Bulls with Longley, Cartwright, etc—yes they had Jordan, Pippen and they also had only serviceable PG’s–In the NBA it is ALL about match-ups and teams have won with Kendrick Perkins at center and Derrick Fisher at PG–is there star power at the other match-up spots?? I think you will see in the range of 14 -12 averages for Horford this year…please remember that Cowens played in an inflated numbers era as well…
Sekou Smith
October 7th, 2009
6:51 pm
New blog is up if you wanna migrate over. New blog up.
Lou hudson
October 7th, 2009
10:41 pm
Lets not say well Horford is going to score 14 ppg and 12 rbpg this year and that possibility puts him near Cowens and Malone. No, his numbers are mediocre and he compiled them playing against mediocre competition. People constantly say that Horford’s numbers are decent against the weak centers of the league not realizing that if hes got average numbers against weak competition them he must be the average Al or less. Even if he did have a good year. I don’t believe that would put him in Cowens and Malone company.
I count Cartwright as a center not a power forward. He may not have been the scorer but he was a force and you could not leave him unattended. He could finish.That team did have luc longley also.
Im not sure that I am one to believe that star power wins games. That only helps when the refs give you that extra super star step in going to the rack or that you cant breath on him phantom foul going to the line. Other than that. being a super star just sells jerseys.
We have a difference of opinion on whether to build around a center or a point guard. We agree that both are” natural” positions.
Either way I think we agree on more than we disagree. I hope the hawks have a good season and you a good night.
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