Crawford makes a great first impression
Hawks fans are going to get a full dose of Jamal Crawford this season and if first impressions count for anything, it should be an exciting show.
HAWKSVILLE – From the minute Jamal Crawford hit the door Monday all eyes were on the Hawks’ newest addition (well, so to speak).
And he didn’t disappoint, not that anything he could have done would have disappointed the crowd of players, many of them his new teammates, hoping to get a glimpse of him in Hawks’ practice duds.
“They’re going to be (expletive) good this year,” said a visiting pro from another NBA team. “You throw JC and Joe Smith and this kid [Jeff] Teague, and they’ve got some wrinkles now that they didn’t have last season. They were already a dangerous team and now they’re really dangerous. And knowing these fans down here and what they like, they’re going to love the style this team can play. They’re going to love JC.”
Crawford loves the idea of what this Hawks team could be. He was all smiles after playing a few pickup games with guys like Marvin Williams, Al Horford, Mike Bibby and others, for the very first time.
“If you look at us on paper, you know we should be pretty good,” Williams said, “but so far I’d have to say it looks even better than I thought. It’s impressive. It’s different. Everybody knows what Jamal is capable of. And Jeff can play, man. I don’t know any other way of saying it, he can just play. And it’ll be exciting when we get everybody in here and see how the pieces fit. I truly believe we are going to be one of the most explosive teams in the league.”
Crawford wasn’t even in scoring mode on his first day (training camp starts in one week but most of the main faces have already made it back to town or are on the way). He played the role of set-up man. “Everybody knows I can score a little bit,” Crawford said modestly. “I’m a good passer, too. I love to set guys up. I always have.”
A nasty no-look pass here, another wicked dish there and his teammates, not to mention everyone else in attendance, had seen enough.
Horford couldn’t contain his glee while watching Crawford break down a defender in the lane on one play. He let out a loud yelp when Crawford’s crossover dribble whipped from one side to the other. Horford calmed down just in time to catch the pass (yup, he was on the floor and playing in the game but clearly enjoying the spectacle) of Crawford shredding yet another ill-fated attempt to slow him down.
“I couldn’t help it,” a smiling Horford would say later. “It’s fun to watch him got o work on somebody. I’m just excited, man. Training camp is going to be so competitive and it’s because we have some of these [new] guys coming in that will stir it up. I can’t wait to get going.”
OTHER NEW FACES
Crawford wasn’t the only new face to open a few eyes Monday. Training camp invitee Courtney Sims made his first appearance at the John “Beans” Beckett Invitational and did not disappoint.
Sims is a solid 6-11, 240-pounder that didn’t seem at all out of place banging against the likes of Horford, Randolph Morris, Othello Hunter and Garrett Siler – the other true bigs on the floor for most of Monday’s action. Sims finished with authority around the rim and was as active as any big running the floor and getting his hands dirty in the rebounding battles on both ends of the floor.
“We’re going to have so many bigs now that things will change dramatically for us,” Horford said of he, Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia, the men who shouldered the bulk of the low-post burden for the Hawks last season. “You go from playing three or four guys, with Solomon Jones, to having five or six quality guys that can play and that has to make a big difference for us.”
THE WAFER RULE
Day after day veteran free agent Jerry Stackhouse turns heads during these informal workouts.
I haven’t found a player yet that isn’t convinced that he could help this Hawks team this season as versatile specialists off the bench.
Whether or not that connection ever comes to fruition is obviously not up to said players or any of us around here.
But let me offer up a cautionary tale about watching a free agent dazzle on the practice court all summer only to find work elsewhere once training camp rolls around. Von Wafer [breakout season in Houston last year and ow a teammate of former Hawks swingman Josh Childress in Greece] put on a somewhat similar type of show last summer, wowing everyone with his shooting stroke from deep and his ability to finish at the rim without any regard for whoever and whatever might be in his way.
Wafer would have helped this Hawks team tremendously last year but a decision was made to go in a different direction (one that, it should be pointed out, helped net 47 wins). It’ll be interesting to see if the Hawks look past Stackhouse (for whatever reasons) and break the Wafer Rule.
It’s not my decision, my team, my money or my main concern right now. But I don’t know that I’d be able to rationalize not trying to sign Stackhouse up if he goes anywhere this season and plays half as well as he’s played since I’ve been watching this summer.
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jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
11:52 am
Most of us thrive in organized and well structured situations, but would suck in unstructured chaos. Go visit a third world country and you’ll realize how easy you have it here. Crawford has lived in NBA’s version of slums all his career.
Even Billups, in his first 6 years of oblivion, played in some adequate teams. Crawford played with so many underachieving head cases that its a miracle that he doesn’t sound bitter.
Larry Brown loves Crawford and didn’t think much of the rest of the Knicks team.
Isiah said Crawford can play defense on point guards, but not on strong shooting guards.
It seems to me that he should be able to handle back up shooting guards and big point guards for the hawks. His strengths and weaknesses just fit in very well with the Hawks. The offensive mismatches with JJ+Crawford backcourt can’t be solved by Orlando/Boston/Cleveland small backcourts. If Flip could drive here, Crawford should fly.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
11:54 am
Andy, what do you think of Crawford’s PG skills? How does it go with JJ, who can handle the ball quite well.
The Truth
September 23rd, 2009
12:07 pm
Andy
If he can put up (at least) Flip numbers off the bench then we should be fine. If Crawford was JJ 4 years ago, then I might be concern. Our team was so green during that period, adding a Crawford might have a disaster as to your point. He just needs to be a good role player not a hero on this team. Woody legacy as a Hawks coach may very well rest on the team accomplishment in general and also on how Crawford perform specially this year with such high expectations. Woody could either validate past coaching actions on Crawford or prove them all wrong. We shall see.
vava74
September 23rd, 2009
12:26 pm
Akin to what The Truth as said,
I would like to remind some of the ungrateful Hawks fans which constantly rant about “JJ’s inability to take it to another level”, “that he is not up to Kobe, Lebron or Wade’s level” and that don’t consider his re-signing as absolutely crucial for our future success, how valuable and important was his poise and low key leadership in the steady development of the Hawks.
If instead of JJ we had signed a flashy “me-first-wannabe-star” type of player, we would still be bottom feeders.
JJ is a “next generation Joe Dumars”, a blue collar player with all star skills with a little bit more spark.
If you took Joe out of the Bad Boys, they wouldn’t have one a single playoff series. The same applies to the Hawks: if we remove his all rounded and balanced game we will loose it.
Right now, we need that one of the young guns (or all of them) steps up and takes it up to the next level.
If we manage to have at least 2 guys playing at an all star level (JJ and another) and have 2 or 3 close by, we will be unstoppable within 2 years.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
12:28 pm
Crawford’s role on this team is exactly as you said Andy. He will be our primary scoring option off the bench to play against second units. His pt will vary based on matchups and how hot he is. He will not be this teams primary, secondary or even third scorer. I appreciate the insight, but I do think it is unfair that you and Wally somehow think that we as Hawks fans are overblowing Crawford’s potential and impact on this team. Most of us think we have improved 50-55 wins depending (remember we won 47 last year) and still will make a second round playoff appearance, and we will hope from there.
No offense, glad you are here, but both yours and Wally’s comment were condescending in a way, that you probably did not intend. But, just so you know we watch a lot of basketball here in Atlanta, too.
GeeMack
September 23rd, 2009
12:35 pm
vava74
You are correct JJ is like a Joe Dumars type player. The Robbin to someones Batman. Put him with LBJ Kobe, D-Wade or CP3 and we talkin championship. Trying to lead a team and you talking 1st or 2nd rd playoff exit each year regardless of how well the younger guys play. Champioships are won by teams that have great player with a good supporting cast. Not good players with a good supporting cast. That’s a formula for a good regular season but no playoff success. Check the Hawks of the 80’s & 90’s.
vava74
September 23rd, 2009
12:52 pm
GeeMack,
The example I gave you was not made in vain: Zeke got more credit than he deserved in comparison to Joe. I personally believe that their contributions to the Bad Boys were more or less equivalent, with Zeke launching too many bad shots and with a me-first attitude which was balanced by a cool and poised Joe cleaning up the scraps with his defense and his clutch shooting.
My take is that you can win with a collection of players at the same level, just below the super star level and proof of that has come from Detroit TWICE.
And at this stage comes another interesting fact: Woody was there when they won last time and that shows in the way that the team plays help defense and in the the way that all sound so “collectively into it”.
In relation to our Hawks teams of the 80’s, I believe that this team has the potential to be much better than those Hawks. Apart from ‘Nique and Doc, the rest of the cast was mostly role players who collectively produced beyond their capabilities and when Mo and Theus arrived, that just killed the team spirit.
Also, as much as I loved ‘Nique, he had tremendous flaws in his game: he was a streaky shooter from outside, a poor defender and passer, a “bit” of a ball-hog and almost exclusively wanted the ball on the left box limiting the game flow since Willis also only wanted the ball there.
It was only late in his career – after his achilles heel injury – that he learned and worked to contribute in a more well rounded and unselfish way and that showed. When we traded him, the Hawks committed one of the biggest crimes in sports history.
In relation to the Hawks teams in the late 90’s, yes, they were similar to this one, however, I think that JJ is a better player and more capable to take over a game than Steve Smith was and the rest of the roster is more talented as well collectively.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
1:00 pm
GeeMack- do you consider Howard a superstar level player? Pierce? Vince Carter? I dunno… I do agree that one of the our young three (hopefully all of them) needs to take it to the next level in order for this team to go deep in the playoffs.
This may shock you but I think CP3 is overrated.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
1:05 pm
vava- I would like to agree with you that this team is better than our 90s teams but….
Steve Smith vs. Joe Johnson- I like Joe, but not by a landslide
Bibby vs. Mookie- Mookie
Augmon vs. Williams- Williams
Smith vs. Willis- Willis
Mutombo vs. Al- Mutombo
do you agree?
vava74
September 23rd, 2009
1:16 pm
Daniel,
The starting 5, player by player, I agree. But I think that this roster is more balanced and all players are in the same page and mesh better physically and mentally.
I think defense wise, this team is superior collectively, although some of the 90’s Hawks were excellent/outstanding defenders and better in direct confrontation with today’s Hawks.
I am still predicting 57 wins for this year.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
1:26 pm
Daniel,
We traded away Augmon to have the cap space to sign Mutumbo.
We traded away Willis and got Steve Smith.
You can’t have it all.
A truer lineup would be
Mookie
Smith
Corbin
Laetner
Mutombo
Allen Henderson
Royal
Stiff
Stiff
Stiff
That bench was one of the worst in NBA history.
Crickets
September 23rd, 2009
1:28 pm
chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
1:31 pm
jerrywest- I am aware that all of those players were not part of the same line up, I was going more for a sense of the “90’s team” vs. Todays unit. Didn’t we get Glen Rice in that deal with Miami?
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
1:32 pm
vava- I am all for you. Man, I hope they when 70. I am going to stick with 52 though.
Andy
September 23rd, 2009
1:44 pm
JerryWest,
I think Crawford can play the PG in a pinch. He can handle and pass, the problem is the decision-making. The shot selection will drive you nuts sometimes, especially if he’s made a couple in a row.
The Truth,
The 6th man role is perfect for him, the only question is if he’ll accept it and embrace it. This is a chance for him to shed the “loser” tag, fair or not.
Daniel,
I am sorry you felt like my comments were condescending. That was not the intent. If the Knicks were to get someone from the Hawks, I’d certainly welcome some input from Hawks’s fans who might have seen the guy play every night, whether the reviews were good or bad.
I know that folks in Atlanta watch basketball too, but no one, anywhere, can watch every player, every night. Just submitting an opinion.
I used to live in Atlanta, saw much of Dominique’s career, and likewise suffered through the Jon Koncak/Snoop Graham/Priest Lauderdale years, and was at the CNN Center draft parties booing the Doug Edwards/Cal Bowdler picks back in the 90’s, so I have a bit of attachment to the Hawks, too.
I hope this move works out for them.
Ariose
September 23rd, 2009
2:23 pm
Daniel,I’ve gotta side with Andy and Wally on this one. I said it a few weeks ago. All of these fans(from his previous) critiqueing and saying the same thing about crawford on a consistant baisis; they can’t all be crazy. I still think we will win 55+ based on the crawford, and the other roster moves we’ve mad this off season. But i’ve got a pretty good idea if who crawford is at this point. But woody doesn’t care about that, he’ll let any player have an earfull if their not giving effort on the defensive side of the ball, so there is hope.
Rick, please sign Stackhouse….and Siler or Sims. If he’s taking the roster to 15 G.Green has to be in the mix, but I still think OKC is going to sign him.
Ramon
September 23rd, 2009
2:25 pm
Daniel, you’re telling me at that point of his career you would take Willis over Smith? Every one has their own opinion. But that is a very interesting one. Especially considering it wasn’t until his 7th year in the league that he consistently averaged a double double (in that is 7 years after going to college, so that puts him around the age of 27-29 at least). And also remember Willis very rarely shot better than 70% from free throw line. Willis averaged only 3 ft attempts a game, and Josh already averages close to 6 a game. Defensively, only one time did Willis average more than 1 block a game (1.5 bpg), the rest it was 0.4, 0.6, 0.5 bpg season after season. So as I said, taking Willis over Smooth is very interesting. And remember 93-94 was his last year on the roster as a starter producing heavily. And then there was no Mutombo, Steve Smith on the team. Another thing you do realize Josh’s FG% is way higher than Willis’ right? Just asking.
Ramon
September 23rd, 2009
2:26 pm
Daniel, this is the roster you’re speaking of. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1994.html And you would take THAT roster of THIS starting line up? Manning wasn’t better than Joe any year.
Ramon
September 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm
Matter of fact, Josh Smith is already giving more than Danny Manning who was consider an all star player then. And he’s not in his prime yet.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
2:50 pm
Andy- I know you didn’t mean to be condescending, and as I stated at first glad you are here. I appreciate your input, and along with Ariose agree to with your assesment. I think the part that I had trouble with was that you seemed to assume that we as Hawks’ fans had some unrealistic expectations of Crawford. I think we all agree he is a talented scorer with short comings, but will be an upgrade in the “Flip” role. I don’t think anyone on here seems him as a savior. I welcome your input. If I thought you were a scrub or some jerk, I wouldn’t have even responded to you.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
2:54 pm
ramon- appreciate the link, I was really just refrencing the talent on those 90’s teams that vava compared to these Hawks. Honestly, my knee jerk reaction is that this team is better, deeper and younger. Just kinda pointing out that there was some serious talent on the 90s team.
Willis vs. Smith. I dunno which Josh Smith do we get? That is the big question. You know I love Josh, but…. I hope he is better than Willis, if so then you have your 52-57 wins.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm
Manning did not have a chance in Atlanta, he could never live up to being traded for ‘Nique, and he played like he didn’t want to be here, which was strange considering he was traded from the Wizards.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm
Manning did not have a chance in Atlanta, he could never live up to being traded for ‘Nique, and he played like he didn’t want to be here, which was strange considering he was traded from the Clippers.
Daniel
September 23rd, 2009
3:16 pm
I swear I did not type Wizards!!!!!
Ariose
September 23rd, 2009
3:48 pm
Ten Games To Watch – #3
http://www.hawksbasketblog.com/2009/09/21/ten-games-to-watch-3/
vava74
September 23rd, 2009
4:06 pm
I completely stopped followibg the Hawks and the NBA following ‘Nique’s trade.
I felt betrayed.
Hence I didn’t realize that Daniel’s starting five never existed. It did sound too good to be true.
We have an excellent roster right now which with a little bit of maturation will be very dangerous.
newkid
September 23rd, 2009
4:26 pm
vava74,
Many thanks for the information and advice; beautiful images you’ve painted. Daughter will soon be on extended work assignment there, so we’re considering a visit sooner rather than later. Indeed the pleasant and colorful mental images of spring in a countryside bursting with color evokes thoughts a bit more pleasing than chilly (but tolerable) autumnal days, doesn’t it? Don’t think the red light district will be in the cards under any circumstances, but thanks for the tip.
Will share my own visual images with you if we decide to travel there soon.
Obrigado!! Adeus.
hawks
September 23rd, 2009
4:35 pm
can’t wait to see crawford and jeff play. I hope jeff turns out to be an all-star in the future! GO HAWKS!
GeeMack
September 23rd, 2009
4:52 pm
vava74
Most of the items I think we can agree. However Zeke was a superstar. Dumars was Zeke’s Pippen. Some of the same things that was said about Zeke was said about Jordan early “ball hog” “Me first”, but they wanted to win more than anyone else.
The collection of good players wins a championships once every blue moon. The proven formula is superstar talent leads good player fill out the roster. As for the most recent Detroit team that won it all. That’s the only team in the history of the NBA that won it all without a HOFer.
Daniel
I do consider those guys superstars, but it’s funny how the GM put other stars around them to win a title.
hawks
September 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm
joe johnson is not a real all-star, he is a good player but not an all-star. you never know when he is going to have good game. JOSH SMITH should be an all-star!
rob
September 23rd, 2009
5:30 pm
jj + crawford in the starting line up = Hawks Win!
ILL-logical
September 23rd, 2009
5:34 pm
Interesting twist on Bobby Cox”retiring: recent internet reports-none locally- had Wren and Cox at loggerheads over the Smoltz and Glavine departures. The local spiin is that cox is bowing out gracefully with a 5 year “consulting contract”.
Sounds like another new GM wants his own person running the show deal. Wonder what is going through Messers Sund and Woodson’s minds right about now?
Ariose
September 23rd, 2009
5:35 pm
Thomas Gardner signs with the Memphis Grizzlies:
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2009/09/23/gardner-from-atlanta-to-memphis/
Dos Hawkquis
September 23rd, 2009
5:39 pm
DANIEL, RAMON, VAVA74, JERRY WEST, ANDY,
How do you all see us mathing up with the following teams during the 09-10 season:
Hawks vs Chicago
Hawks vs Clev
Hawks vs Boston
Hawks vs Orlando
The reason that I picked these teams is because I feel that these are the top 5 teams in the EAST-Orlando, Clev., Boston, Hawks, Chicago.
On paper, we have nice additions, but how do you think that we will match up. How did Crawford do against Clev., Boston, and Orlando the last 2 years. How did Joe Smith do against these same teams last year. How did Collins do against these teams?
This is really the questions that we need to look at.
“I don’t always watch basketball, but when I do, I prefer the Hawks. Stay thirsty my friends.”
Ariose
September 23rd, 2009
5:46 pm
OMG!!!!WATCH THIS!!!!! FUNNY!!!
http://www.therundown.tv/videos/wtf-files/all-the-single-babies/
Sekou Smith
September 23rd, 2009
5:47 pm
I’d take Stackhouse rainman. He’s a far better offensive player and a tenacious defender at a crucial position. But don’t go crazy on the Stackhouse tip. As good as it sounds to us, it’s my understanding that nothing is imminent or even on the distant horizon where he is concerned.
I’ll fire this off one more time, ready yourself for a pleasant surprise from Courtney Sims in this training camp. And the training camp roster is rumored to be right at 20 players but it has not been released yet. Add Juan Dixon to the list. But there are perhaps one or two other names that I’ve yet to nail down.
rob
September 23rd, 2009
5:54 pm
anybody agree with the guy saying that jj is not a real all-star and that josh smith should be the guy representing atlanta at the all-star games?
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:00 pm
Jamal Crawford torches Dwayne Wade for 52 points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxKEou4vPHk
and then sits much of the 4th quarter.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:03 pm
The Golden State Warriors aren’t going anywhere fast this season, so head coach Don Nelson is going to give the youngsters a chance to shine by cutting some of the vets’ minutes.
Said vets include newly-acquired Jamal Crawford, who will sit out tonight’s ballgame against Charlotte, and his agent is not handling the shift in his client’s playing time well. From the Mercury News:
“Jamal wants to play,” Goodwin said. “That’s what he came here for. If the coach doesn’t want to play him, he should have a valid reason why he doesn’t want to play him.”
“What is the message that Coach Nelson is sending the team? That he does not care about winning?” Goodwin said. “You would think, in this day and time, when fans work hard to pay for these tickets, that the coach would field the best possible team. Jamal may not score 50 points on the Bobcats again, but he would work hard to get a win and reward the fans for their loyalty to this team in this hard time…”As an agent and a longtime fan of the Warriors, I totally disagree with this.”
For what it’s worth, Crawford says he will not question his coach’s decisions. That’s his agent’s job.
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/02/jamal-crawfords-agent-isnt-enjoying-the-don-nelson-experience/
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:06 pm
and that was after scoring 50 pts against the bobcats in their previous encounter.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=6503704
Jamal Crawford scored 50 points to help the undermanned Golden State beat the Charlotte Bobcats 110-103 on Saturday night, giving Warriors coach Don Nelson a win in his first game with a new coaching strategy.
A night after Nelson announced he would no longer have anything to do with the Warriors’ NBA-worst defense, assistant Keith Smart handled that part of the game, while Crawford handled the offense — and then some.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:13 pm
Hawks bench (Zaza+ Joe+Collins+ Crawford + Mo Evans) have played in
2.937 NBA games and
started in
1,693 NBA games.
If Jerry Stackhouse comes here that number goes up to
3,791 and 2,256 respectively.
That should take care of our road issues.
Wally
September 23rd, 2009
6:26 pm
Truth, I think that term “hater” is one of the most insdiously damaging phrases that anyone can use on the web. The word does not simply mean a “critic” when one is posting on the web, but instead still has the English definition of one who hates. Now, given that I said Crawford is a nice guy and that I am concerned about Hawks fans getting too high of expections, I don’t even remotely see hate in there anywhere.
Now, if you think Joe Wilson, Serena and Kanye are just the bomb, you might not agree with my interpetation of your use of the term in question.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:30 pm
Juan Dixon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Dixon
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:33 pm
Dixon had issues with his Achilles’ over the last few weeks of last season, but he played through the injury.
Wally
September 23rd, 2009
6:38 pm
Daniel, I just don’t get the interpretation of Andy’s or my post as condescending. Yes, I was trying to burst a bubble. But I didn’t think the bubble was based on ignorance by Hawk fans. It is simply a bubble all sports fans get when new blood comes to town. And Crawford’s gaudy numbers and summer pick up game skills could support that bubble. In fact, that bubble follows Crawford wherever he goes!
Yes, Crawford could be used for limited purposes as a microwave type player. But he stunk off the bench for the Warriors as he likes to start and even when in the mood, he is very, very inconsistent on offense. One game 32, the next 2. Occassionally, he gets in a passing mood – and has the talent to pass. But 90% of the itme, he is the classic black hole – pass it to him and no one is getting it back in this universe.
But there is something Crawford is consistent about – defense. He is perhaps the worst and laziest defender in the NBA. Your coach would simply have to be a genius and diplomat to use him well. I don’t like Nelly – but he is not a dumby. And even with a skill set that Nelly likes, Crawford was a negative presence on the court and was really disliked by fans as he just doesn’t bother to play defense. That will not change after 10 or so years in the NBA. I hope your coach recognizes this huge flaw and utilizes Crawford well, as … ta dum, I LIKE the Hawks.
rob
September 23rd, 2009
6:43 pm
this is how i see the east. 1. boston 2. cleaveland 3. hawks 4. orlando 5. detroit 6. toranto 7. wizards 8. heat, bulls, or 76ers
Wally
September 23rd, 2009
6:49 pm
Jerry West – And how does Crawford’s agent childish trashing of the Warriors make Crawford a good guy? A good teammate? A good defender?
My impression of Crawford is that he is a decent locker room guy but he was not loved by his teammates on the court as he is a black hole. Just wait for his signature move: head down, dribble back and forth between the legs and launch a 27 footer. You will see him score wtih this on ESPN and Youtube. And I am sure Al Horford thought it and the crossover are pretty cool. But he only hits this when very hot and it really obstructs the offensive flow.
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
6:51 pm
Sekou,
Please make a poll. – Do the fans want Stackhouse – Yes or No.
How do we petition Sund for Stackhouse?
jerrywest
September 23rd, 2009
7:25 pm
Acie Law realeased from hospital.
Head injury from a 3 on 3 practice game.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/23/SPI119QTKR.DTL
ant banks
September 23rd, 2009
7:26 pm
JERRYWEST,
thanks for the tidbits on how crawford did against the scrub charlotte, but i am wit’ dos hawkquis, how did he do against the top tier teams? ie. orlando, clev. etc. who gives a rip that he lit charlotte up for fity?