Comments on: True or False in Hawksville! http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/ Coverage of Atlanta’s NBA franchise from AJC Hawks beat writer Michael Cunningham Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:25:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kayo http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28997 kayo Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:36:31 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28997 i dont understand how you true hawks fans can call yourselves true hawks fans. for one how can you ignore that since the addition of joe johnson that this team is not the laughing stock of the nba anymore. when the hawks were at the bottom of the barrel with the rest of the worst teams in the nba( by the way a lot of them are still there at the bottom) most of you so called true hawks fans weren't so true anymore. now look at the hawks, 12th in the power rankings, 2 playoff appearences in 2 of the 4 years jj has been here and we are still on the rise as a young team. now if that dont sound better then 29th in the power rankings, 12 year playoff drought, no all-star players, no soldout games. bottom line if joe johnson didnt come to the hawks this more than likely would have been the out come. so just through him away you so called true hawks fans because thats what it sounds like you are doing to me. and by the way i became a hawks fan because of joe. i dont understand how you true hawks fans can call yourselves true hawks fans. for one how can you ignore that since the addition of joe johnson that this team is not the laughing stock of the nba anymore. when the hawks were at the bottom of the barrel with the rest of the worst teams in the nba( by the way a lot of them are still there at the bottom) most of you so called true hawks fans weren’t so true anymore. now look at the hawks, 12th in the power rankings, 2 playoff appearences in 2 of the 4 years jj has been here and we are still on the rise as a young team. now if that dont sound better then 29th in the power rankings, 12 year playoff drought, no all-star players, no soldout games. bottom line if joe johnson didnt come to the hawks this more than likely would have been the out come. so just through him away you so called true hawks fans because thats what it sounds like you are doing to me. and by the way i became a hawks fan because of joe.

]]> By: Hms http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28438 Hms Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:46:42 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28438 Hms August 27th, 2009 2:26 am Guys, I want to tell you a secret ive lived with for a long time. Im gay. Very gay. I like animals too… I hope you arent offended and will accept me for what I am. A sick and perverted man. August 27th, 2009 2:37 am Hms August 27th, 2009 2:26 am Guys, I want to tell you a secret ive lived with for a long time. Im gay. Very gay. I like animals too… I hope you arent offended and will accept me for what I am. A sick and perverted man. Ken and I are a couple and we both wear our pants with the zippers to the rear. Ive also got a crush on Michael Vick. There…Ive said it. Im tired of being under cover. Ken and I are coming out of the closet. Like it or not!! Hms August 27th, 2009 2:40 am I never said I was very gay. Just gay. Hms

August 27th, 2009
2:26 am
Guys, I want to tell you a secret ive lived with for a long time. Im gay. Very gay. I like animals too… I hope you arent offended and will accept me for what I am. A sick and perverted man.

August 27th, 2009
2:37 am
Hms

August 27th, 2009
2:26 am
Guys, I want to tell you a secret ive lived with for a long time. Im gay. Very gay. I like animals too… I hope you arent offended and will accept me for what I am. A sick and perverted man.

Ken and I are a couple and we both wear our pants with the zippers to the rear. Ive also got a crush on Michael Vick. There…Ive said it. Im tired of being under cover. Ken and I are coming out of the closet.

Like it or not!!

Hms

August 27th, 2009
2:40 am
I never said I was very gay. Just gay.

]]> By: Ken Strickland http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28231 Ken Strickland Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:59:21 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28231 ROD FROM CP-Marvin went from being a DEF liability to a DEF stallwart in just one off season. The vast majority of players that are considered DEF liabilities don't make that transition during their entire career. How many starting forwards or guards go from making 1 of 10 3pt shots(.100)one season to making 55 or 255(.355)the next? Now that's tremendous improvement. His ballhanding skills and ability to effectively drive to the basket improved tremendously. Before last season, there was no shortage of comments referring to him as duck, clumsy and references about him stumbling to the basket. But after one off season, none of that type of talk has been posted since. He increased his rebounding average while the rebounding averages of his frontline companions, Josh and Horford, decreased. His scoring went down, but that was primarily due to the midseason addition and scoring of Bibby and the off season addition and scoring of Flip. Maybe you can't see the improvement because you're blinded by your abvious bias when it comes to Marvin. After researching these stats and seeing JSmith's totals, especially from the 07-08 season, it made me wonder if I had stumbled across a SG/PG in a PF's body(PTS-17.2, REB-8.2, AST-3.4, STL-1.52 & BLK-2.8). ROD FROM CP-Marvin went from being a DEF liability to a DEF stallwart in just one off season. The vast majority of players that are considered DEF liabilities don’t make that transition during their entire career. How many starting forwards or guards go from making 1 of 10 3pt shots(.100)one season to making 55 or 255(.355)the next? Now that’s tremendous improvement. His ballhanding skills and ability to effectively drive to the basket improved tremendously. Before last season, there was no shortage of comments referring to him as duck, clumsy and references about him stumbling to the basket. But after one off season, none of that type of talk has been posted since. He increased his rebounding average while the rebounding averages of his frontline companions, Josh and Horford, decreased.

His scoring went down, but that was primarily due to the midseason addition and scoring of Bibby and the off season addition and scoring of Flip. Maybe you can’t see the improvement because you’re blinded by your abvious bias when it comes to Marvin.

After researching these stats and seeing JSmith’s totals, especially from the 07-08 season, it made me wonder if I had stumbled across a SG/PG in a PF’s body(PTS-17.2, REB-8.2, AST-3.4, STL-1.52 & BLK-2.8).

]]> By: Doug http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28228 Doug Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:13:57 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28228 Rod: No...his runner is almost a half hook and he scored with it or got fouled going hard several times early-to mid season...he even had it recognized as a shot he did not have before by the Knicks announcers in late January. I think you will see drastic improvement this year in some other areas as well. Agree to disagree on the defensive end Rod: No…his runner is almost a half hook and he scored with it or got fouled going hard several times early-to mid season…he even had it recognized as a shot he did not have before by the Knicks announcers in late January. I think you will see drastic improvement this year in some other areas as well. Agree to disagree on the defensive end

]]> By: Anakin Joe http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28227 Anakin Joe Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:02:47 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28227 OB, I don't care how you get to a 3:1 ratio, it is still a very good one and helps the team tremendously. What you just described sounds like someone who knows how to maximize their strengths, I don't view that as a bad thing. Watching Bibby pretend that he is Derrick Rose would be like watching Childress pretend he is Glenn Rice. Nothing wrong with staying in your lane, especially when it proves to benefit the team. OB, I don’t care how you get to a 3:1 ratio, it is still a very good one and helps the team tremendously. What you just described sounds like someone who knows how to maximize their strengths, I don’t view that as a bad thing. Watching Bibby pretend that he is Derrick Rose would be like watching Childress pretend he is Glenn Rice. Nothing wrong with staying in your lane, especially when it proves to benefit the team.

]]> By: O'Brien http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28226 O'Brien Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:43:54 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28226 To me, there are 2 main reasons why Bibby has good assist:TO ratios. 1) Once he crosses half court, he gives the ball to Joe. 2) Bibby is not a drive and dish PG, so he doesnt drive in the paint looking to pass (with lots of traffic) very often. As far as Teague's development goes, I can see Bibby starting this year (and next year), but year 3, Teague will be our starter, and Bibby will be coming off the bench. (By year 3, Crawford might be gone anyway, so Bibby could be our scorer off the bench). To me, there are 2 main reasons why Bibby has good assist:TO ratios.
1) Once he crosses half court, he gives the ball to Joe.
2) Bibby is not a drive and dish PG, so he doesnt drive in the paint looking to pass (with lots of traffic) very often.

As far as Teague’s development goes, I can see Bibby starting this year (and next year), but year 3, Teague will be our starter, and Bibby will be coming off the bench. (By year 3, Crawford might be gone anyway, so Bibby could be our scorer off the bench).

]]> By: Rod from College Park http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28225 Rod from College Park Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:44:26 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28225 Doug, Has nothing to do with Chris Paul. I just want to know where the drastic improvement was. Maybe the word "drastic" is what bothered me enough to actually post. He was better the year before. I personally did not see that runner you are talking about, maybe you are confusing him with Joe. I won't even get into the defensive part again. I disagree. Doug,

Has nothing to do with Chris Paul. I just want to know where the drastic improvement was. Maybe the word “drastic” is what bothered me enough to actually post. He was better the year before. I personally did not see that runner you are talking about, maybe you are confusing him with Joe. I won’t even get into the defensive part again. I disagree.

]]> By: Doug http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28224 Doug Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:15:49 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28224 Rod: Marvin was much better defensively...he showed an excellent runner that he used to great effect at times...and as you mentioned he became a legit 3 pt threat from being non-existant in that area. If he makes the same jump in say, pull up off the dribble, post development...etc...then we would have a budding star. I know though because he is not Chris Paul and is Marvin it is impossible Rod: Marvin was much better defensively…he showed an excellent runner that he used to great effect at times…and as you mentioned he became a legit 3 pt threat from being non-existant in that area. If he makes the same jump in say, pull up off the dribble, post development…etc…then we would have a budding star. I know though because he is not Chris Paul and is Marvin it is impossible

]]> By: Daniel http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28223 Daniel Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:59:29 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28223 I am with you Khao$- It is now 11:00am, do you know where your free agent PF is? I am with you Khao$- It is now 11:00am, do you know where your free agent PF is?

]]> By: Daniel http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/08/19/true-or-false-in-hawksville/comment-page-6/#comment-28222 Daniel Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:58:37 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=460#comment-28222 oh no, someone made a comment about Marvin while Rod was reading. How long will this one take? oh no, someone made a comment about Marvin while Rod was reading. How long will this one take?

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