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With the starting five (plus a few more) back and under contract for the foreseeable future, the Hawks have at least given themselves a fighting chance to compete with the big boys (photo courtesy of my main man and former AJC photographer Pouya Dianat).
HAWKSVILLE - If continuity means anything in the NBA these days, the Hawks have done right by their own this summer.
Marvin Williams touched on it last week during a conversation we had the day before he signed his new contract, and again this afternoon in a teleconference with the media to discuss his new deal. A day after my initial talk with Williams, Al Horford and I discussed continuity briefly while he took a break from his work with the Basketball Without Borders program.
Dating back to last summer and extending all the way through training camp this year, the Hawks (if they can come to terms with captain and All-Star Joe Johnson on an extension) will have spent millions to keep their core in place for the foreseeable future.
“I think management is making the commitment to keep us together,” Williams said Tuesday. “And each year we’ve gotten better.”
Josh Smith’s $58 million deal was the first domino, albeit an offer sheet from Memphis to the restricted free agent power forward last summer that the Hawks matched before the ink was dry on the offer sheet. That swift move was followed up this summer with deals for Mike Bibby (3-years, $18 million), Zaza Pachulia (4-years, $19 million) and Williams (5-years, $37.5 million-base). Johnson’s 4-year extension, if signed, would be in the $64 million-range.
Full disclosure, math was never my strongest subject in school. But that’s a lot of cash spent, rightfully, on the heart, soul and guts of your team. Any team dreaming of winning big at the NBA level has to invest in its core or risk vanishing into the ether.
When Hawks center Al Horord talks,in English or Spanish, people tend to listen.
What the Hawks have done is neither groundbreaking nor extraordinary in the world of professional sports. But for a franchise mired in a malaise of mediocrity for the better part of a decade prior to the last 13 months, it’s a pretty impressive feat. ”Obviously, I think it’s pretty important to build on to what we’ve started,” Horford said during our phone conversation last week. And he would know, having played on successful teams every year of his college and professional career to date. “I’m glad Marv got his deal done, because we’re going to need all our guys back and ready to go this season.”
By no means does this excuse the Hawks from the responsibility of filling out the roster with quality players capable of supporting that core group. But it certainly helps that the core is in place right now – a nucleus with three wildly talented youngsters in Horford, Williams and Smith. That would be a heck of a core group by itself. So to have JJ, Bibby, Zaza, rookie Jeff Teague and even Jamal Crawford to add to the list makes the list that much more impressive. It’ll look even better with the addition of a name like Joe Smith, still in the works according to some well-placed sources that insist the Hawks won’t give up until someone pries Smith from their dead claws.
Will it win a championship in a league where the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers have stockpiled elite talent to go around Kobe Bryant and the Boston Celtics have assembled a star-studded army to battle the Lakers, Cleveland and Orlando for supremacy? No way. But the same can be said for solid young teams in places like Portland and Chicago as well. That’s just the reality of the situation.
What a rock-solid core does is give the Hawks a fighting chance to be relevant now and into the future. And despite cries for titles (things, mind you, that Hawks fans have never experienced) relevancy is the tangible goal that all teams must focus on before moving into championship mode.
Having witnessed my favorite team’s lone championship season of my lifetime (scroll down to the bottom, it’s there, I swear), I can sympathize with the desire to shed the middle ground for the higher ground. Having witnessed that championship season also made it painfully clear to me just how rare those occasions are, even when you have seemingly all the resources in the world at your disposal, that your squad actually cashes in on the big prize.
Would I trade 40 years of rooting for a a competitive or even upper-tier team for one title? Absolutely. But if I can get both, even if the titles only come once every 50 years, I’m not turning that down either. Back to my original point, and I apologize for swerving off course a bit but it is football season (and I smell a comeback season cooking in Ann Arbor), it all comes down to perspective for me.
Is it more important to be relevant and potentially a true player or not? I say stay relevant (given whatever constraints might be in place, and it’s no secret the Hawks have many) as long as you can. We’ve all seen the flip side and it’s ugly, real ugly.
Where the Hawks fit in the grand scheme of things depends on your perspective, as well. If being the fourth team in a three-team Eastern Conference race doesn’t strike you, that’s understandable. And they will have challenger for that fourth spot. But they certainly seems sure of themselves.
“I feel like people are obviously starting to respect our ball club,” Williams said during his teleconference. “People realize they are not going to come into Atlanta and get an easy win. I don’t think anybody in the league is doing that anymore. We’ve shown the last few years we can compete with anybody in the league. We certainly feel like we can compete with anybody in the league.”
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Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
9:57 am
Loren Woods & Jason Hart?, sorry still struggling with those 2 names. Amazing to see Solo, Shelden and one-legged Powe get contracts before we get a back-up forward. Just when I think Mikki Moore would be a horrific choice, Loren Woods’ name is mentioned. Geez.
The Truth
August 12th, 2009
9:59 am
Sekou
PS: I’ve already stated my position on Flip. I think the decision makers are making the selection of the 3rd PG way more difficult then it need to be. Just as Joe Smith is keeping the Hawks at bay while he explores other options so are the Hawks keeping Flip at bay while they explore other options. Eventually, something got to give because both parties are running at time.
Daniel
August 12th, 2009
10:11 am
The Truth- they actually have plenty of time
Traceman
August 12th, 2009
10:16 am
Rod, Vava74 said it perfectly with regard to the fact that a high number of blocks and steals don’t mean that a guy is a good perimeter defender.
O'Brien
August 12th, 2009
10:25 am
Sekou, 2 questions for you.
1) If Flip is signed, do you think that he will take away minutes from Teague? (like Flip took minutes away from Acie last year).
2) What is the holdup with Joe Smith? Does he not like our offer, or is he just keeping his options open?
I know that he would be the 2nd big man off the bench, but he still has some skills, and he could help Josh with his game. (I think Ty Hill needs all the help he can get).
Doug
August 12th, 2009
10:43 am
For the 100th time…Flip will not nor should he be signed. Sund drafted Teague for a reason…he is extremely highly thought of by everyone…including Woody. This is a huge difference from Acie. Along with the signing of Crawford, Teague makes Flip not only unnecessary but redundant. If someone like Hart is signed it will be to be 3rd PG…don’t even think that will happen, but Flip won’t be signed.
Rod from College Park
August 12th, 2009
10:52 am
Vava74 and Traceman,
“Bowen and Battier were/are considered a couple of the best perimeter defenders in the league and their blocks and steal stats are very weak.”
No comparison. These guys have Duncan and Yao behind them. You can play much better defense with a defensive force in the middle. The Hawks back inn the day would funnel everything to Dikembe. These guys funnel everything to Yao and Duncun.
“Another important factor to determine a PF’s defensive hability is his defensive rebounding. Josh is a poor defensive rebounder, mostly due to lack of commitment and because he privileges looking for spectacular blocks rather than use his incredible leaping hability to snatch rebounds.”
Totally untrue. It depends on the system. Dominique was considered not to be a good rebounder, but he was not asked to rebound on the old Hawks teams. When the ball was in the air, he was told to get out on the break. Since you guys keep talking about his perimeter defense, what power forwards in the league run right by Josh? He does play power forward right? Can Marvin check any power forward in the league? Camby was voted first team all defense, but I guess that does not matter huh. He is a terrible man to man defender. Ok!!!!! You don’t build those kind of numbers over a five year period being a terrible defender in any way. If that was the case, everyone would be able to do it.
Mike is back
August 12th, 2009
10:54 am
Daniel, ditto on your 9:04 am post. We are witnessing a metamorphosis of the Hawks Franchise. I like everyone else have been adamant about the need to acquire a dominate Big so we can challenge THE BIG DOGS…but I would be remiss if I over look the forward process this organization made this off-season…these are very reasonable contract for young long athletic guys.
The addition of a battle tested guy like Joe Smith shouldn’t be over looked if it happens…the intangibles he possess will be of great use to our young Bigs…plus he’s a shot blocker…Sund will have upgraded the team and still kept our CORE intact. I think it was a good investment for the TEAM and the FANS.
As a long-suffering ATL sports fan…I’m use to seeing star athletes come and go…this however is different…first it was the Birds…now it’s the Hawks putting the ATL back on the map…U GOTTA LOVE IT.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truth
August 12th, 2009
10:57 am
Daniel
NBA training camps will open towards the end of September around September 29th or 30th; if you consider that a lot of time, then maybe. However, since the early birds have already gotten the worms, we are now talking about the availability of par player at best with only a few exceptions. So, I would think of setting an earlier pseudo-deadline just to motivate the process. If we don’t, we might lose negotiation leverage if we are perceived to be in a desperation mode which could happen.
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
11:23 am
Daaaayyum! I KNOW y’all have heard about the Rick Pittino thing already this morning lol. WOW. What a crappy position to be in. Thrn he has to eventually address the media…..oooohhh weee!!!
Big Ray
August 12th, 2009
11:35 am
Heh….why is there such a big deal being made about the marginal difference in height amongst the members of our starting backcourt? Is this something new?
Anybody ever hear of a guy named Billy Knight?
Ramon ,
Your 6:02 p.m. post from yesterday. Bravo ….
Big Ray
August 12th, 2009
11:37 am
Ariose,
Ol’ Rick is admitting to something that many of these guys have done. It’s just a matter of getting caught, lol! Maybe he should call Kobe or Marv Albert about this one….
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
11:44 am
Ray, Yeah lol. It looks like the Louisvillle prez is beheind him so, it should blow over real quick. But he should Get some Kobe(Gold Digger protection program)Insurance just to be on the safe side hehehe….
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
11:52 am
Ariose, while his primary job is head coach, Pitino also gets a big chunk of money from public speaking and motivational books. Oops, that revenue source has all but ended. He should feel very fortunate that his price for infidelity is considerably less than what Steve McNair paid. Unfortunately, these guys never seem to learn. They need to stick with their wives and Wiggle, Wiggle, Wiggle videos to get them through the night.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
11:55 am
By the way, were there any lyrics to that song? All I can remember (lyrically) is wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. But then again, the point of the video had absolutely nothing to do with lyrics, did it? Never mind.
Rod from College Park
August 12th, 2009
12:03 pm
Big Ray,
Some people here seem to think that Joe is not big enough to play the three on a consistent basis. That’s why.
Stating the Obvious
August 12th, 2009
12:10 pm
Rod,
Your last post is so wrong that I don’t know where to begin. You think all that Bowen and Battier do is funnel people to Duncan and Yao?? I guess that’s why Bryant takes about 10 off-balance pull-up jumpers every time he plays the rockets and Spurs, right? Because of Yao and Duncan. Ok. Idiot.
And Marcus Camby can’t check any center man-to-man. That’s why the Nuggets defense IMPROVED last year after they traded him. Idiot.
Stating the Obvious
August 12th, 2009
12:14 pm
It was never more OBVIOUS than in your last post that you never actually watch NBA games.
Sekou Smith
August 12th, 2009
12:15 pm
I don’t think Flip will come back here, O’Brien, so it doesn’t matter what I think about he and Teague. And the hold up with Joe Smith is the same thing it almost always is in these things … player’s camp goes high, teams goes low and they’re trying to find the middle.
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
12:24 pm
AJ, LMFAO!!!! eah Pitino would’ve been just fine with a lil “Wiggle,Wiggle,Wiggle” video in his life from time to time. No need to get all caught up and pay Court fees and whatnot hehehe….
The Lyics to the Song? Hmmm…..My memory is a little bit vauge there too. I think I need a refresher, so i’ll have to watch the video a few more times and get back to you
Big Ray
August 12th, 2009
12:32 pm
Rod,
At 6′7″ and 230 chiseled pounds, I’d say Joe is big enough to play the 3. More importantly, he’s strong enough. I think the question is whether there is an advantage for him at that position, and the answer is that there isn’t enough of one against enough opponents to play him there. I always saw Joe as a 3 or a big 2 that has nearly the skills of a 1 when it comes to ball-handling (he doesn’t have the natural passing skills of a 1, if you ask me).
The idea is to play a guy where he can take the most advantage of what he has, especially if you have somebody next to him that can play one of the positions he’s capable of playing, but can’t maximize himself in. Because of his size and his ball-handling capability, Joe is best used as a 2. While most 3s won’t match his ball-handling, there are enough of them that are big enough to give him problems.
I have no problems with playing Joe at the 3 in the right situations. All or even most of a game isn’t the right situation in most cases, in my opinion. If there is a team we can successfully play small ball against all night, then I’m all for it. But that won’t be very many nights, and I don’t see it being most of the season, either. Fit is everything.
Marvin is adequate enough at the 3, so we can afford to let Joe take advantage of playing at the 2. Most 2s can’t guard him well.
But that’s just my opinion. That, and we need Marvin in at the 3, at least as long as we’re running the frontcourt we currently have. I don’t see a big center of starting caliber anywhere in our immediate future. So we’re better served with a trio of 6′9″ guys with length, than we are with two 6′9″ guys and a guard who’s capable of playing small forward.
Again, just my opinion. Sure, JJ can play the 3. But is that really the best fit for us, all season long?
Daniel
August 12th, 2009
12:34 pm
Sekou- Have you heard anything about how the Powe signing is affecting the Joe Smith situation? The obvious thinking (from a Hawks fan) is that Clevland would no longer be interested and should put us in the driver’s seat. What do you think?
Daniel
August 12th, 2009
12:36 pm
Truth- I would classify that as plenty of time. I hear your points. I just don’t think the Hawks want to be bidding against themselves. Especially if Joe Smith’s options are drying up.(see above)
Daniel
August 12th, 2009
12:38 pm
Oh, and Sekou, since you have inside info that the Hawks are going hard after Joe Smith and we resigned Marvin and are looking to extend JJ, do you throw that in Mark Bradley’s face? Since he was declaring that the Hawks were done after signing Za.
Daniel
August 12th, 2009
12:38 pm
If not you should!
doc
August 12th, 2009
12:55 pm
donny, marvin, otis or al green and LOU RAWLS, among others and i smoothed it through my early life. i couldnt have made it any other way. that music is what is missing in life today and among our children. heh heh … dont compare em just enjoy what they brought. donny and roberta, quite an album for lovin which it is what it is all about. agree with sekou, even here with the dissin that goes on, i know rod and ray have a grooove goin on.
doc
August 12th, 2009
12:59 pm
me, my 8 track, squeeky old cadillac, a lady and lou rawls is all i needed when i was 17.
Ken Strickland
August 12th, 2009
1:06 pm
I see the Hawks improving on last yrs win total and playoff accomplishments, barring serious injuries of course, due to the improvement we’ll see from Marvin, Josh and Horford. The additions of Crawford and Teague, and Woodson’s acceptance of both, will add speed and quickness to the team, as well as OFF and DEF improvement.
Now, if I’m completely wrong and we don’t measure up to last yrs accomplishments, for some of us, the consulation prize will be the firing of HC Mike Woodson, which ain’t bad.
Hoops
August 12th, 2009
1:14 pm
O’Brien & Daniel,
Looking @ the Hawks roster @ this point and trying to figure out the direction Sund is going in is kind of a struggle.
I believe Sund wants to sign Joe Smith for 1 year and not 2 because of JJ’s extension and the cap possibily being lower next year. If he can’t get Joe S. to sign for 1 year, then he will probably just go with Hunter as Smooth’s back up. I think Siler and Korolev have a really good chance of making the roster this year. Beyond that, I’m not sure if he will sign more than 13 players. Regardless of whether Sund gets Joe S. or not, I see Marvin playing some minutes @ PF when Crawford and JJ are @ SG and SF. Add Bibby to that line up and you have 4 really good perimeter shooters on the floor. It will be hard for the defense to double JJ then!
Rod from College Park
August 12th, 2009
1:18 pm
Big Ray,
Agreed, but I feel like Joe is a mismatch at either position. It’s not like we actually post him up against smaller 2’s, so he will take advantage of most 2’s or threes in the league. He will beat the 3’s with quickness. I feel like the Hawks would be a more dangerous offensive team with Bibby, Jamal and Joe in the frontcout together. It would prevent the double and triple teaming of Joe, and keep us from going into those long offensive lulls that we say in the playoffs. Just my opinion.
Stating the Obvious,
“And Marcus Camby can’t check any center man-to-man. That’s why the Nuggets defense IMPROVED last year after they traded him. Idiot.”
I think they actually improved because not having Camby in the middle forced other players to play honest and not rely on Camby to bail them out when they got beat. Same thing applies to the on offense after the got rid of Iverson. they went from the ISO Iverson to having more ball movement, and look what happened. It’s called the team concept and not the I concept. It is OBVIOUS that you have never suited up if you think that having a guy like Camby, Yao or Duncan behind you will not help you defensively. Again, Camby was voted 1st team all defense in 07-08 along with guess who, Duncan and Bowen. I don’t think you would be voted to the first team, not being able to defend your position. IDOIT.
niremetal
August 12th, 2009
1:33 pm
Sekou,
Drop Brian Skinner’s name the next time you talk to Sund or Pendergraft
gwite
August 12th, 2009
1:40 pm
“I-DO IT”
o…K.
doc
August 12th, 2009
1:40 pm
i knew it! rod, replied “agreed” to ray comments. durn things change just by bringing soul music into the equation. change the durn world.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
1:45 pm
doc, good stuff man. I could tell that you’ve got plenty of “playa” in you.
I agree with Ray about Joe. I suspect that he will see a fair amount of time at 3 just because the small line-up works well for us at certain points in the game and Crawford will likely receive more playing time than Flip. And as Sekou hinted at earlier, Crawford should be the 3rd option at PG, not the 2nd. So that kind of forces Joe to the 3. When Joe and Crawford are on the floor together, it would be good to have someone who can get in the lane with ease. Most opposing teams will not want to play both Joe and Jamal one-on-one and obviously, a big would not be the ideal guy to go and double one of them. So if the opposing PG is trying to cheat, someone like Teague should be able to use his quicks to ATTACK THE RIM. Even Bibby’s lightening quick release would work well in that scenario, but I’m on record as preferring anything that involves ATTACKING THE RIM.
AfroMan, come back. Sorry, just felt the need to cry out for Childress (again), the only guy who consistently attacked the rim. Boo-hoo-hoo… AfroMan come back. Boo-hoo-hoo.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
Loren Woods? Sekou, next time you talk to Sund slap him. Or suggest Charles Shackleford, anyone but F’ing Loren Woods.
jhan
August 12th, 2009
2:03 pm
Rod – I can’t seem to figure you out. You look at players individual stats to shoot them down, but when you’re arguments are proven wrong you throw out the “team” concept. Seems like you want it both ways.
Big Ray
August 12th, 2009
2:07 pm
Rod,
I think the most important thing at this point is realizing that we have these options now, and to exploit them when the opportunities present themselves, while not sticking with certain lineups when they don’t work. Woody and his staff need to brainstorm on this, and get together with the veteran players (which is the entire backcourt with exception of Teague) first, and make this happen as a complete unit.
I see great opportunities for a versatile and dangerous team, and a chance at some serious chemistry.
Astro Joe,
What?? Loren Woods? Who said that? If that’s what Sund is after, then I’m right in the slap-happy line with you. Save some slaps for me! I didn’t know you were from the Slapabro tribe. Me too!
By the way, you need to go with the “ATTACK THE RIM” tag line. I’m tellin’ you…you gotta rock that before Clyde steals the rights and tries to make a t-shirt out of it. Hell, sell the idea to the ASG as a replacement/upgrade to the “Highlight Factory” and you might make some dough on the back end. Fa Real!
Big Ray
August 12th, 2009
2:08 pm
Doc,
Save the world with soul? Sounds like another good tag line. Man, you guys are off the chain today!
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
Ray and AJ, Great points. Joe Cannot play there full-time. In my eyes Marv is the perfect example of your avg. prototypical SF. Along with guys like LeBron and Melo of course. I’m speaking strictly from a size point of view.
Ken Strick, Or would could bring back Flip mid-season(if he’s available) if things get ugly.
…..OK, who the heck is Jason Heart? The name sounds familiar but i’ve never seen or really heard of a guard by that name. I know theres a big man naed Jason that plays for the Sixers…he’s the only player that comes to mind.
Rod, I think you meant frontcourt lol.
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
2:24 pm
…..Flip consistantly atacked the rim….*Kicks Rocks* shoo…
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm
Eww *attacked
lol
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
2:31 pm
Ray & AJ, I’ll bring the Baby Powder lol. I’ll pimp slap a fool
Ra'mon Austin
August 12th, 2009
2:40 pm
One name for me that keeps coming to mind is Bruce Bowen. I know we need two other bigs, but if they’re considering Flip or Hart. I’d much rather see Bowen brought in. To have Bowen and Evans on the bench to come in and harass opposing players for periods in the game would be a great to get the transition game going for Teague and Crawford on the 2nd unit. Another thing Bowen brings on the 2nd unit is the ability to hit the corner 3 with consistency. With this roster, JJ’s offense won’t be missed unbearably when he’s resting, but his defense will. So I say have Bowen on the bench, who’s defense is comparable.
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
2:42 pm
WOW. th Hornets just traded Rasul Butler to the Clippers for a conditional 2nd Round pick. CP3 can’t be happy about this….
Could the Hornets be looking to add a guy like Flip Murray on the cheap? Well, maybe not considering they drafted that LSU guy Marcus Thorton to play SG Hmm…..
fudd21
August 12th, 2009
2:46 pm
Goodness! I actually half way agree with a Rod comment and to think not a sentence of Marvin bashing. I for one can’t wait to see Jamal and JJ on the court together. People can talk about the low percentage and volume shooting all they want but Jamal brings an element that has not been here since JJ has, another bonafide scorer on the floor. This should lower JJ minute and as Rod said (still can’t beleive Im agreeing) take away some doubles when they play together.
Ok KevinA come on and give us your negative comments about Jamal so I can come down off my high.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
3:13 pm
Rasual Butler is a nice player. Hard to tell how much of his performance last year was related to CP3 but I can tell you, dude has a good jumper and blocks a fair amount of shots for a wing player. CP3 really can’t be too mad, he signed that extension and likely knew at the time that budgets would be tough in that market.
Ray, you must have missed it. Sekou brought up Loren Woods’ name. Jason Hart came from another source. How do you even think about a guy who was pathetic at his prime and is now 3-4 years removed from that? Why not just sign that joint-smoking guy who played for the Pacers 2-3 years ago, Harrison is his last name. He’s probably a better choice than Loren F’ing Woods.
The Truth
August 12th, 2009
3:13 pm
Rod & Ray
Just to add to the discussion about JJ size advantage, listed below is a power ranking of the top 10 SG as sourced from cbssports.com:
1) KOBE BRYANT, SG 6’-6” WT 206 LBS
MICHAEL REDD, SG 6’-6” WT 215 LBS
2) DWYANE WADE, SG 6’-4” WT 216 LBS
3) TRACY MCGRADY, SG 6’-8” WT 223 LBS
4) MANU GINOBILI, SG 6’-6” WT 205 LBS
5) JOE JOHNSON, SG 6’-7” WT 240 LBS
6) BRANDON ROY, SG 6’-6” WT 211 LBS
7) RICHARD HAMILTON, SG 6’-7” WT 193 LBS
9) ALLEN IVERSON, SG 6’-0” WT 180 LBS
10) RAY ALLEN, SG, 6’-5” WT 205 LBS
As shown, what stands out more for JJ is not so much his height but his weight. Perhaps this explain some of the criticism that been directed at him. Despite having his huge size advantage for a SG, JJ hasn’t yet mastered his post-up game to fully exploit the mismatches. I have seen on many occasions when he is guarded by a smaller defender, instead of being aggressive with a post move, JJ will just settle for a jump shot. Granted he is doubled (or even trebled) teamed most of the time, but some times he is not and he doesn’t exploit the situation this way; mainly because JJ is a natural jump shooter. That is his natural instinct. At this point in his career, he needs to reprogram himself and expand is game. Looking forward, we need players that can help spread the defense to make this opportunity available to JJ. However, JJ most continue to work on that part of his game to make the strategy work.
Ariose
August 12th, 2009
3:19 pm
Truth, I disagree. JJ posts all the time. Backing his man down in the lane for the turnaround floater is his bread and butter.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
3:22 pm
David Harrison. And no, I don’t want him, but I’d rather see him in a Hawks uniform than Loren Woods.
Anakin Joe
August 12th, 2009
3:25 pm
Ariose, I agree. He doesn’t post-up like Mitch Richmond used to do, but he definitely will take his man into the lane. He doesn’t have the explosive athleticism to go to the rim, so he more often goes with the floater.