I think that ownership knows this and that they will spend money next year but it will not be to keep JJ. JJ sees the game with the ball in his hands and always asks, “what can I do to make . . . .” As long as the guy who occupies the ball has that kind of vision, it does not matter who plays with him. The ceiling is there.

Nire, what you’re saying makes a lot of sense. That roster spot could be used for something much more important, like a big man. As far as Flip being an insurance policy, I agree, but you know flips the highest quality you can get; especially for the price. He’s more like bailout insurance you Know, for when our jumpshooters go cold(JJ, Crawford, Bibby).

Like Truth said, If we get an injury to Bibby, you’re taking a risk only having teague to back him up. We also don’t know about Teague defense, specefically against Bigger guards who like to work in the post (Billups, Miller, Kidd etc.) Reallly flip was the only guard who dealt with that stuff well.

Now I had forgotten all about Mo lol. I wish he was two or three inches taller taller so this wouldn’t be an issue heh. I agree with you though, It doesn’t make sense to bring Flip back…..then again, it does make sense. Either way it’s not that big of a deal because our main problem right now is the frontline. Thats what really needs to be addressed.

Nire, You must be talking about the Autobiography that came out in 2008. I haven’t read it, buy if you think it’s good I might have to get my hands on a copy

Yeah that Diss track was vicious lol. I bet Mariah wishes she never released this video lol! Some things just aren’t worth it heheheh, she was fighting fire with fire. She should’ve seen this coming as clear as a freight train lol!

Value and need.You give me “value and need,” and then try to tell me that we gave away nothing for “more of the same” (which would be “something”).

Gosh, that sounds like we got “something for nothing.” There’s your value.

We got a combo guard who is good enough to start and can provide near Joe Johnson level scoring and assists if/when Johnson or Bibby is out. He’s bigger and faster than Bibby, and better than Flip. He’s easily enough of a threat that our offense will not lag or become stagnant when he’s on the floor and Joe is not, and dangerous enough to keep teams from doubling Joe when they’re both on the floor.

There’s your need. Unless of course you think we never needed that. Right….

When faced with the opportunity to meet a lesser need while pursuing greater needs, do you gamble by ignoring the presented opportunity? Let’s say Sund doesn’t make the Crawford trade. And let’s say that he still isn’t able to convince any of the FA bigs that we missed out on to come to Atlanta. Would you still rather come to training camp with Acie and Speedy? Or would you like to come to training camp with a guy who can give you as much as Crawford can, and is a much more tradeable asset than those two were?

You say value and need. I say asset management.

The idea that Crawford’s contract is affecting our ability to sign a big is getting a bit stale and moldy. If that’s the case, then Speedy and Acie’s contracts were doing the same, were they not? You talk plenty about Sund having a budget and X amount of money to spend. You have to understand: what we spent on Crawford was pretty much already spent on Acie and Speedy. We just traded what we were getting for the money. You just more or less admitted that we are now getting more for the money than we were before. Something for nothing.

No, it isn’t meeting the need you wanted it to meet most. I’m betting Sund feels the same. But unless you can tell me which valuable big man we could have gotten in the same trade, I’ll settle for significantly upgrading what we had for a bit more cash.

One more time: we traded for a guy who can give us MUCH more than the two outgoing pgs could, and is more valuable in a trade than they ever would have been.

Value and need…..the NBA business is neither black and white, nor one-dimensional. If you can’t upgrade what you need the most, you settle for upgrading something else you need. It’s called finding ways to get better, even if they aren’t the ways you prefer.

I’m sure glad Sund understands that.

If you want to tell me that it took an “out-of-the-box” thinker to find Diaw’s role, I may buy it. Nellie gave Nowitzi the freedom to blossom into a 7-foot jump shooter while Larry Brown refused to allow Darko to attempt to be a similar player. But I still remember that he went from a nice player to someone worthy of a $10M/year contract AFTER he went from “wing” to “big” in that Phoenix line-up. Check the game logs.