Vacation visions

Might a Smith family reunion (of sorts) be in the works for Joe and Josh (no relation) this season with the Hawks?

Might a Smith family reunion (of sorts) be in the works for Joe and Josh (no relation) this season with the Hawks? Time will tell. The Hawks are working on it, though.

THE OPEN ROAD - I’m not supposed to be here right now.

Seriously. I looked it up. Vacation is meant to be “leisure time away from work, devoted to rest or pleasure.”

But the phone doesn’t stop ringing because you want it to (next time, we all need to go on vacation together … or at least at the same time).

After being off the grid (mostly) for an entire family reunion weekend, I’ll admit that I’m a bit foggy on some of the details about what went on in Las Vegas for Josh Smith at the USA Basketball mini-camp and just about any other hot debate that’s gone on around here the past few days (and for the record, I’m told that despite a tepid performance in Saturday’s scrimmage, his time with the USA B’ball folks was a rousing success because it allowed quite a few people that weren’t familiar with him other than what they’ve seen, heard and read to get a much better for feel for him as a person and player).

But I do have some thoughts about a few other things, namely the Hawks’ mini-camp from last week, the state of negotiations with Marvin Williams and the Hawks’ continued pursuit of Joe Smith. So if you’ll forgive your host for leaving the party for a few days (technically, I’m on vacation until August – just in case Wifey decides to check the blog and see what we’ve got going on), here are some of my vacation visions:

JOE SMITH probably didn’t realize he had multiple stalkers until he left Atlanta Friday. That’s when the Hawks’ full court press for the veteran free agent’s signature shifted from face-to-face to long distance. Well, mostly long distance. The Hawks do have a secret weapon in Smith’s Phoenix backyard. Mike Bibby’s basketball royalty in the Valley. And he’s one of several Hawks working hard on the recruiting trail to bring Smith into the fold. Zaza Pachulia knows Smith well from their time together in Milwaukee and said he would use all his Euro-charm (at lunch Friday and beyond) to make sure Smith was aware of just how much he is wanted and needed by the Hawks. All that said, major work must be done to secure Smith’s signature on a contract. It’s not secret the Hawks aren’t paying the same rate for backup bigs that some other teams are (for example, Chris Wilcox got cash – $6 million over two years – in Detroit that he never could have from the Hawks. Same goes for Drew Gooden and the reported $4.5 mil he’ll bring in on a one-year deal with the Spurs).  So they have to find ways (PLAYING TIME!!!!!!!!!!) to lure the kind of players they need to help bolster their cause. It probably helps that, in a summer marked by taking care of in-house business (home grown free agents), Smith is the first player outside of the family that the Hawks actually courted. Again, there is major work still to be done on this front.

YOU WERE WARNED THAT THINGS between the Hawks and Marvin Williams would drag out this summer. I wasn’t joking. Nothing has changed. The sides remain on opposite sides of the restricted free agent street right now. I know that other outlets reported that the sides were “close” and all that, but it’s just not true. The sides are talking. And they’ll be back at it this week. Anyone that sees an end in sight has X-ray vision, because I wouldn’t be surprised if things lasted deep into next month. Look back at the Hawks’ dealings with many of their own players in the past (I know Mike Bibby and Zaza coming back as quickly as they did had you juiced but that was out of the ordinary for the Hawks). It usually takes time, especially for restricted free agents.

JEFF TEAGUE is going to make a lot of people forget about the disappointing saga that was Acie Law IV’s tenure with the Hawks. Teague did more than just turn heads during the Hawks’ mini-camp last week. He sparked conversation about point guard play I hadn’t heard in my time covering the Hawks before last week. “He did some things as a young point guard that we hadn’t seen on our practice floor since Chris Paul and Deron Williams were here for predraft workouts,” one Hawks assistant coach told me last week. That’s as strong a statement as I’ve heard from anyone in the Hawks’ camp regarding a young point guard. While they all agree that Teague has plenty of polish that can be applied to his game, there is no debate about who or what the Hawks expect him to become. “I can’t wait to see him in training camp,” Randolph Morris said. “I think he’s going to give people fits with his quickness and his ability to get to the rim whenever he wants to. That’s going to be fun to watch.”

OBSERVATIONS ABOUT A FEW OTHER GUYS that stood out (for various reasons) during mini-camp:

- Othello Hunter was more impressive than any other player in camp, after Teague. His range on his jumper has improved dramatically. But we all know that his chance at making a dent in the Hawks’ roster and playing rotation depends on his ability rebound, defend and provide the hustle plays required of frontcourt journeymen in the NBA. The improved shot is an added bonus. I’d have him locked up on a two-year deal right now. If he keeps improving, someone is going to get a steal.

- Garret Siler’s stock with fans and media types can’t get much higher. He’s become something of a phenomenon around these parts, thanks to some serious hype and the big fella backing it up with strong performances in the Las Vegas summer league and last week. Siler’s raw and would be a super-sized Lunchable for superstars like Dwight Howard, Shaq and Pau Gasol, not to mention brutes like Kendrick Perkins and Brook Lopez. I know you want to believe that he’s the he’s the answer to the Hawks’ big-man problems … but that would mean all 30 teams missed on the guy, twice for some teams, on draft night.

- Randolph Morris has shed the kind of weight all of us “bigger” guys would love to be able to shed. And he did it organically, which makes it particularly impressive. He had his moments during mini-camp but I’m not sure he blew anyone (in charge) away with the work he did. I don’t know what he has to do to make a move up the Hawks’ rotational food chain, though he is under contract for this season, which has to help. But the fact is, even with all the work Morris has done, the Hawks are still hunting reserve bigs. 

- Frank Robinson did it again. He showed up. Played his guts out, literally. And his reward, like that of most guys in his predicament, will probably be an invite to training camp. Robinson is the kind of guy that will always make training camp interesting because he’s fearless and is skilled enough to make you wonder why he’s not on someone’s NBA team? He won’t make the Hawks’ roster this season. But I certainly wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the middle of the action during training camp.

- Yoroslav Korolev was supposed to be a bust. When he crashed and burned with the Los Angeles Clippers (they made him the 12th pick of the 2005 draft), he joined the ranks of Darko Milicic, Nickoloz Tskitishvili and Fran Vasquez on the list of worst ever Euro-lottery busts. Korolev was just a kid when the Clippers drafted him but he looked grown up last week. He was much better than I expected him to be and showed off a nice shooting touch from long distance. He’d be worth keeping an eye on for the future.

- Brian Hamilton surprised me as much or more than any player in camp. I honestly wasn’t aware of him at all before last week. But mini-camp is a showcase for under the radar players like Hamilton, a smooth 6-6 swingman that impressed on both ends of the floor. His defense is what made him stand out. Yet he showed plenty of offensive ability and a nose for the ball on both ends of the floor that would make Mario West jealous. He’s another guy that will surely be in someone’s training camp pushing someone under contract to the limit.

Those were just some of the guys that made lasting impressions on me. Hawks coach Mike Woodson remarked several times that it was by far the best (rookie/free-agent) camp conducted during his tenure with the Hawks and I have to agree that it was the best I’ve seen in my time dealing with the Hawks (I missed his first one, when Josh Smith and Josh Childress were rookies). But there wasn’t a single player in town last week that didn’t belong on that floor.

IN CLOSING, I’d be remiss if I didn’t give my man Solomon “Solo” Jones a proper send off here. One of the truly unique characters to grace us with his presence the past three years, Jones is moving on this week to a two-year deal with the Indiana Pacers. Solo is moving on at a time when the Hawks could use a big or two like him, which makes his departure for Indiana all the more perplexing. After all, he was a restricted free agent, due close to a $1 million if he had signed his qualifying offer (the QO was rescinded so he would be allowed to sign with the Pacers without any interruption). I needed an explanation and Solo provided one last week. “The Hawks kept it real with me,” he said. “They told me that my role was going to be pretty much the same as it was last year, and that I wouldn’t have a chance to move up and get more time unless somebody got hurt like last year. And I realize that’s just the way it’s going to be with Josh and Al [Horford] and Zaza already in place.  It’s cool. I get a chance to go somewhere else and try and start over and see if there’s a chance to have a bigger role. The Pacers want me up there right away to get to work and that’s a good thing. I’m looking forward to the opportunity. But I appreciate the Hawks keeping it straight with me and not trying to sell me something that they couldn’t deliver in terms of playing time and opportunity.”

If it’s good enough for Solo, it’s good enough for me.

712 comments Add your comment

Dan

July 27th, 2009
9:29 am

Thanks for the updates as always, Sekou. Best of luck to Solo, hopefully he gets a chance to make his mark in Indy. Sekou, what are the chances Marvin isn’t a Hawk on 09-10?

sds3u

July 27th, 2009
9:29 am

DJ

July 27th, 2009
9:32 am

DJ

July 27th, 2009
9:33 am

I MUS WRITE

July 27th, 2009
9:33 am

RealSquawk

July 27th, 2009
9:39 am

this first thing has got to stop especially when you are second.

Other than that my x-ray vision and optimism has us locking Marvin Williams and Joe Smith this week.

I really don’t see how we improve at all if Marvin Williams isn’t in the fold. Another prediction if we don’t get higher than a four seed we will be lower than the four seed.

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
9:41 am

Deep made the point at the end of the last blog that the Hawks might be trying to maintain cap flexibility for next summer. I think he might be on target. My guess is that the Hawks are only offering Joe Smith either 1) a one-year deal or 2) a two-year deal at the vet’s minimum. If they signed someone to, say, the full mid-level, that would take them out of the running for signing-and-trading for one of the big free agents because it would push them too close to the luxury tax threshold. It would also put them over the likely cap, which would take us out of the running for signing second-tier free agents (like, say, Travis Outlaw, Damien Wilkins, or Udonis Haslem). With JJ a free agent, Horford up for an extension, and Marvin’s status uncertain, there’s a strong argument to be made for not burdening the payroll for players who are less talented than what we could get next summer…

The current “elite” teams in the

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
9:43 am

*The current “elite” teams in the league won’t have cap room next year thanks to their spending sprees this offseason, so we might actually be in an enviable position as far as going after people looking to join a winning squad next year…

Melvin

July 27th, 2009
9:50 am

I wish SOLO well. I still think he could have help this team if the HC gave him consistent mins. 2-3 days courting Joe Smith and no deal done. Well I think that speaks volumes of this organization. Plan and simple, we need new owners. The BASG are not serious about building a championship team. Get those penny pinchers out of here…

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
9:50 am

(Mind you, I will be very disappointed if we don’t lock up ONE of the few remaining vet big men to a 1- or 2- year deal)

Khao$

July 27th, 2009
9:50 am

With most of the legitimate bigs being taken off the market, it becomes a must, IMHO, that we secure the services of Joe Smith. I hate to see Solo go. With the way things are playing out in FA, I wish we kept him.

ant banks

July 27th, 2009
9:51 am

Melvin

July 27th, 2009
9:54 am

Nire,

Wouldn’t a team like Cleveland be under the cap next year? Considering the expiring contracts of Shaq, Big Z and possibly Lebron. Couldn’t they sign other FA’s than re-sign their own FA’s with the Bird rule?

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
9:54 am

Won’t get drawn in today, Melvin…lol. Have to take some obscure exam tomorrow and Wednesday…

Daniel

July 27th, 2009
9:57 am

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
9:57 am

Mel,

They actually still have the large contracts of Mo Williams and Varejao on their books. Add to that the cap hold for LeBron, and they are in the same position we were this year – a couple million under the cap, but not far enough to sign anyone to more than the mid-level straight up. That’s why I was so surprised that they threw $50M at Varejao. If not for that, they WOULD have the cap space to make a play for one of the other big guns next summer. By not just paying but overpaying for him, they actually made it so that they can’t even make a run at a guy like Outlaw…

Anakin Joe

July 27th, 2009
9:58 am

In other words, Crawford’s contract strikes again. I fully expect him to have an Al harrington-type of impact on this team. Some good. Some bad. Mostly forgettable.

Daniel

July 27th, 2009
9:59 am

not even close!

Daniel

July 27th, 2009
10:02 am

hmmm… I guess are hopes of getting something for Solo are gone. I am going to assume that by not signing the QO the Hawks were doing Solo a favor. I hope this is a sign that they are trying to build good will amongst players. The move doesn’t change one bit the outlook for this team though. We still need a veteran big (or two) to add to the bench same as before. I hope to hear some news soon on the Joe Smith front.

niremetal

July 27th, 2009
10:02 am

Also, Mel – you can’t get around the cap rules by simply signing other teams’ free agents before you re-sign your own. That’s the whole reason they have cap holds – unless you renounce your rights to re-sign that player, there’s a cap hold on the book for them. I would guess that the Cavs will renounce both Shaq and Z next summer, but the kicker isn’t them, it’s LeBron – his cap hold will be the max contract, and that’ll take them to within $5M of the cap when it’s added to the other people actually on the payroll.

A Tribe Called Quest

July 27th, 2009
10:06 am

Man, look at pictures of Jeff Teague and Jason Terry and then compare their games (3 pt shooting off-guards, explosively quick) and tell me that they are not the exact same player (height may be off a bit). Same initials too. Jet Terry got way too much hate from ATL media. And I’ll be damn happy if Teague turns out to be close to as good as Jet is.

A Tribe Called Quest

July 27th, 2009
10:07 am

CAVS WANT LEON POWE NOW. WHO DO THE HAWKS WANT?

NO ONE

CHEAP B@STARDS

Wink

July 27th, 2009
10:08 am

“I can’t wait to see him in training camp,” Randolph Morris said. “I think he’s going to give people fits with his quickness and his ability to get to the rim whenever he wants to. That’s going to be fun to watch.”

Can get a rotation player’s opinion, other than this one from the Sleeping Giant, that will surly be watching from the bench.

Wink

July 27th, 2009
10:09 am

Morris’s comments regarding our new rookie point guard Teague,

Anakin Joe

July 27th, 2009
10:11 am

Seems like Joe Smith or bust. I agree that at this point, we need more of a PF than a back-up C (at least in terms or priorities). Unless Kurt Thomas is set free this summer, I can’t think of anyone who would make a true impact other than Smith. Guys like Brian Skinner, Mikki Moore and Malik Rose are closer to the Stromile Swift/Melvin Ely/Michael Ruffin grouping than they are to the McDyess/Bass/Gooden class.

Solo will be competing with Hibbert, Murphy, Foster and Hansbrough for playing time. And he feels that it a better situation than competing for time with the Hawks? Either Sund is REALLY convinced that he has someone imminently walking through the door or Solo was just looking for a nice way to explain why he wanted to get away from Woody. Because I don’t see him cracking the top 4 bigs in Indy.

Melvin

July 27th, 2009
10:13 am

Nire,

Thanks. I forgot about the cap holds. Well, we can’t overlook NY b/c they have a history of overpaying for players. Even if they don’t land the big fish, they could sign several mid-level players. I wouldn’t mind getting Jared Jeffery from them….

Anakin Joe

July 27th, 2009
10:16 am

Randolph Morris has become a regular scout all of a sudden. Dude is analyzing Siler and now Teague. Maybe we can have a 3rd blog on the Hawks here at AJC. Sekou (beat writer’s angle), Hawks Hacks (fan’s view) and MoBlog (a player’s perspective from the 11th seat on the bench). I’m not hating on the weight loss, however, good for him.

Melvin

July 27th, 2009
10:17 am

Anakin,

I think Solo problem was more with Woody than Sund. Sund has stated that he’s hands off when it comes to the coaching decisions and personnel for the team…

Melvin

July 27th, 2009
10:19 am

Well to RandMo defense, he’s the only roster guy to play with rookies and mini-campers. Not sure that’s a good endorsement for him….

Daniel

July 27th, 2009
10:38 am

Melvin that tells you everything you need to know about Randolph. He will get invited to training camp only because he is already under contract.

Why do you guys think that Solo had a problem with Woody? Woodson gets too much blame around here. How is he responsible for a lower tier player moving to another team for 1 milion dollars? Does that suddenly swing the balance of power in the East? Veteran starters on this team all really like Woodson and have backed that up with their contracts. Outside of Josh, who has had issues with Woody? Acie Law? Salim Stoudemire? Gee, if my coach is the kind of guy that barely NBA talent level guys have a problem with, then I am ok with that.

Anakin Joe

July 27th, 2009
10:41 am

ESPN’s Chris Sheridan provided this summary on Josh Smith’s USA Basketball performance and chances for a future roster spot (it is an Insider article, he summarized every participant from the weekend minicamp):

Josh Smith: Appeared to be packing on a few extra pounds, and his game still seems too unrefined for him to be seriously considered in the big man mix for next summer. But if he shoots 80 percent at the line and 50 percent from the field in ‘09-10, he’ll help his cause.

Ben

July 27th, 2009
10:48 am

What would it take to get Joe Smith on a 1 yr deal – 2 Mil – 2.5 Mil?
2 yr deal 3 Mil – 3.5 Mil
Is Ryan Hollins decent?
Open up the purse Spirit! This couple of hundred thou that you might be squabbling over is not going to be the difference in resigning Marvin, Joe, Al over the next 2 years. You need a quality, veteran big man who can hold his own down low. Why let Solo go if we are not going to get anyone better than him! Wonder why Atlanta never gets any unrestricted free agents, never pay enough and always drag out negotiations. They don’t even show their own players the love (Childress, Marvin, etc.) Who wants to play for an organization like that? Who would take a discount to play here- no one.

doc

July 27th, 2009
10:51 am

seems solo is loaded with class.

what is BASG’s problem. they choked up 3 mil a year for a suit on the bench, that could cower rookies, pop popcorn and slice open zaza’s head and they cant find the bucks for joe smith? what is wrong with this picture?

Anakin Joe

July 27th, 2009
10:52 am

Melvin, Sund doesn’t make playing time decisions but let’s face it, if Sund is bringing in Siler or Hunter or Earl Barron to join Zaza on the bench, then surely Solo could feel like he could prove himself against those guys. But if Sund hinted that he will be adding a proven rotational big man, then that’s another story.

If Solo feels like he won’t get enough playing time as the team’s 4th big, then that kind of flies in the face of Sekou suggesting that playing time may be the bait to lure someone like Smith. Or, if Solo feels like Woody will truly only play 3 bigs, then will Smith’s camp feel the same way and try to land him with a Western team (like Portland)? It just doesn’t really fit together (IMO). Unless, as I suggested, Solo was mostly interested in removing himself from Woody.

ant banks

July 27th, 2009
11:00 am

for all of you all talkin’ about ASG, Sund, and Mike Woodson you have to give them credit for handlin’ solo honestly. i like when people shoot straight, so that you fully know where you stand.

i applaud the hawks in this regard!! as a result, solo was able to make a clear choice that he and his fam could benefit from

ILL-logical

July 27th, 2009
11:01 am

Best wishes to Solomon Jones, a class act and hard worker. The continuing stream of talent away from and the trickle toward the Hawks in the last few years is interesting to say the least.

Since Joe, there has not been a major “star” sign here and his arrival was via a trade. However, several Hawk first round draft picks have been sent packing while no comparable free agent talent has replaced them.Certainly a cost effective strategy because of the difference in the rookie scale versus the free agent market but sometimes the last piece of the puzzle has to come from somewhere besides a young but talented rookie or a mid season trade.

Mike is back

July 27th, 2009
11:19 am

Sekou, great stuff as usual…I’m with you on Solo…if Solo is happy with it…I’m happy with it…I wish him the best of luck. I like what I little I saw out of Othello…glad to hear he is having a great camp…he could provide some help off the bench to offset the loss of an energy guy like Solo.

I felt like I heard some positives things from Woody during his interview…but, we’ve all said that before. It will be interesting to see how Woody handles Teague…now that Acie and Solo is gone I can turn the page on that sad saga. However, I am very excited with the prospect watching Teague and hopefully Siler filled the role of the aforementioned player.

I agree with Woody…alone with the resigning of Marvin…the Hawks need to bring in two vets Bigs to realistic have a chance to hold down that 4th spot. Still hoping for a miracle when it comes to ASG and spending money on FA Bigs…Sund is starting to feel BK’s pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doc

July 27th, 2009
11:22 am

yeah aj the man has been very candid and accurate in his comments it seems. maybe he has a chance in talent evaluation.

I MUS WRITE

July 27th, 2009
11:50 am

Danny Ferry is that dude….. I mean dam..who have’nt they signed. JMoon,AParker,Shaq,Powe,Danny Green..Those are big signings -I thought they would have beat Orlando if they didnt have 2 6′1 guys holding down the back court… Parker and moon should help alot-the rich get richer

Good luck to Solo- He handled the situation with class. I dont know where he’ll find time with Hibbert,Foster,Hansboro all in the mix for minutes. Good guy but after 3 years in the league I dont see him improving much but none the less good luck to that yungn…..

What two vets …every big man worth a dam has signed with the Spurs……… Estaban Batista anyone Alvin jones maybe-what happened to him i thought he would be alot better.

darrell starks

July 27th, 2009
12:09 pm

You build a player up and he improve every year and then you let him go the same old hawks with no player development at all i wish you luck solo.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Traceman

July 27th, 2009
12:12 pm

I don’t think the fact that we haven’t signed a big yet makes the ASG cheap. I think the reality of the situation is that like most teams, the Hawks are willing to spend UP TO the luxury tax threshold but they are not willing to EXCEED it. The penalty for exceeding the luxury tax is SIGNIFICANT and only a few owners are in a position to do it. As such, until they actually get Marvin’s name on the dotted line so they know EXACTLY how much room they have under the cap, they are only willing to commit so much to a veteran big man (most likely at or slightly above the minimum).

For example, they may not WANT to pay Marvin more than a certain amount but if a team comes in with a 5 yr/$40M offer for Marv versus the 5 yr/$35M the team wants to pay (just an example, I have no idea what Marv wants or the team is offering), they can’t let a $4M/yr contract to Drew Gooden or Joe Smith prevent them from being able to match an offer to Marvin, particularly when that is only $1M/season more than they wanted to pay.

While we definitely need another big man, whatever big man we get will likely be behind Zaza in the rotation. You can’t let your 4th big man prevent you from resigning your starting SF.

For those who say Marv is not worth $8M a season (or whatever number) I’d rather give that money to someone else, it’s not that simple. We are over the salary cap. We can give Marv $8M a season because he is our own FA but we can’t just give that money to any FA.

Bottom line, the best move for the team is to get the Marvin situation worked out first (whether he plays for the QO this season and becomes unrestricted next year or he works out a long term extension). If they can get that done, then they will know exactly how much money they have to work with going forward.

Hoops

July 27th, 2009
12:16 pm

Ken,

You’re right, the Bucks would not make the trade I purposed of Jefferson and Brewer for Josh, Evans, and Morris. The Timberwolves on the other hand might look into it since those players play for them and not the Bucks! My bad!

Daniel

July 27th, 2009
12:22 pm

Traceman- I agree that signing Marvin is important, but that shouldn’t limit the Hawks ability to sign FA’s, because they have the full MLE and Biannual to use which is not affected by Marvin’s contract.
Clearly, they are offering Joe Smith so we will see what it takes to sign him. I would rather go with a slightly rich number for one year than a 2 year deal. I would rather give him 3-4 mil for one year than 5-6 for 2. But, we will see a two year deal would not be bad.

A Tribe Called Quest

July 27th, 2009
12:22 pm

I can understand why a lot of people weren’t impressed with Josh Smith’s performance on Saturday.

The reason is because his whole “basketball game” is based 100% entirely off of his athleticism. He has a lower basketball IQ than any other rotational player in the NBA. He probably was trying to be Kobe Bryant on Saturday (haven’t seen the highlights if there are any), which he tries to do in Atlanta, but fails miserably. He also looks at the player he is going to pass to, and has that pass intercepted. I can go on for 3 hours typing about how pathetic his basketball IQ is – but that would be considered negative – something not allowed here.

And if we can’t provide minutes to Solo, how would Joe Smith get minutes here? The bottom line is that Woody will give Horford and Smoove 38 minutes or so each, and ZaZa will get about 20, so why would Joe Smith want to play 8 minutes a game (my calculations are a bit off)

Myrak43

July 27th, 2009
12:23 pm

Ben,

“Who wants to play for an organization like that? Who would take a discount to play here- no one.”

That is not true…. Bibby and ZaZa settled for less money to stay in Atlanta.

darrell starks

July 27th, 2009
12:27 pm

What kind of crap is that, woody told solo that his role will be the same and the only way he could move up if some one get hurt, woody never develop solo as a player nor did he give him a chance just like he did acie law thats woody for you.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Mike is back

July 27th, 2009
12:28 pm

Well, Theo is going to the Spurs…hopefully there will somebody left once the Marvin deal is done…right now it ain’t looking good.

It’s laughable when you hear people saying money isn’t an issue in our failed attempted to land a Vet Big. Still hope we can close the JS deal.

Farmer

July 27th, 2009
12:37 pm

What was the outcome of Akoyl’s performance at camp? We going to see him on the bench?

STRETCH

July 27th, 2009
12:41 pm

THE HAWKS ARE HAVE A PLAN. THEY ARE GOING TO SHOOT THEIR WAY THROUGH THE SEASON. LOL!

darrell starks

July 27th, 2009
12:43 pm

THE hawks keep talking about a big man there is no one out there that i can say that will help the hawks and if any one think joe smith will help this team then follow the yellow brick road in to darkness because i can’t see it.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!