Mini-camp invitees

Hawks rookie point guard Jeff Teague will make his on-court debut with the Hawks in a mini-camp next week at Philips Arena.

Hawks rookie point guard Jeff Teague will make his on-court debut with the Hawks in a mini-camp next week at Philips Arena.

HAWKSVILLE - While most of the rookie/free agent attention is focused on the happenings in Las Vegas, the Hawks don’t have a summer league entry in Sin City.

Therefore, the only chance we’ll get to see rookie point guard Jeff Teague in action this summer is during the Hawks’ mini-camp next week at Philips Arena (it’s not open to the public, sorry, and is barely open to the media – we get to see the last half hour of action everyday, which usually consists of cats shooting free throws and trying half court trick shots).

There is good news, though. Intriguing news, even, when you consider who will accompany Teague on the floor during these mini-camp workouts.

If the (tentative) invite list I glanced at today doesn’t change between now and Monday, recent second-round picks Sergiy Gladyr (last month) and Cenk Akyol (2005) will also be in town for the workouts. I know how much you guys love to examine the web-footage of these guys to determine what you think of their games. But I’m looking forward to seeing them in action and on the floor with guys who could potentially be their teammates some day in the future.

Also joining the party will be blog-fave/road grader Garret Siler, the 6-11, 305-pound big man from Augusta State. We only got a chance to see a glimpse of what he can do when he was in for a pre-draft workout with the Hawks. Now we’ll see what he looks like in game-type action during mini-camp. Then and only then will it be clear if he has any chance at all of coming back for training camp and trying to make the Hawks’ roster (which remains a distinct possibility, from what I’m told).

Other names to chew on the next few days as we get ready for the mini-camp include: G-David Huertas, G- Dionte Christmas, G-Sundiata Gaines, F-Shawn Taggart, G-Corey Williams, G-Anthony Goods, G-John Lucas III, F-Yaroslav Korolev, F-Ivan Harris, F-Frank Robinson (a returnee from last summer and one of my favorite cats), F-Leo Lyons and C-Chris Taft.

I know this is a slight detour from our recent free agent/trade conversations, but this mini-camp should be an interesting study in where youngsters like Teague, Gladyr and Akyol are in terms of when they can be expected to contribute to the Hawks.

487 comments Add your comment

Andrew

July 16th, 2009
11:06 am

I haven’t heard Chris Taft’s name in some time

josh

July 16th, 2009
11:14 am

doc

July 16th, 2009
11:17 am

josh … not

Hawk n the Ham

July 16th, 2009
11:19 am

I just read on a Celtics site that Baby Davis’ camp is looking to get around $5.5 mill per year.

Sekou, does this not fit under the Hawks cap?

Andrew

July 16th, 2009
11:20 am

Sekou, given the money we would have to pay in a mediocre big man market, wouldn’t you just take a shot with a guy like Siler and see what happens?

Hawk n the Ham

July 16th, 2009
11:22 am

Also Sekou,

Would you might know if J Smoove is working with a shooting coach this offseason?

O'Brien

July 16th, 2009
11:25 am

Sekou,

I expect Teague to impress. And I give the Hawks credit for bringing Cenk (and Sergiy Gladyr) in. I also think Siler is a low risk move. Nobody expects anything from him this year, (he hasnt been playing basketball very long). But he has legit size, so depending on his game, maybe we can stash him in the D-League for a year or so.

Johnny Hazeltine

July 16th, 2009
11:26 am

Why would the Hawks want Glen Davis? Other than a game-winner, and some streaky shooting performances, he really wasn’t that good last year.

Daniel

July 16th, 2009
11:29 am

Hawks n Ham: that figure is not unreasonable for the Hawks, dependin on Marvin’s numbers. They still have the full MLE to use. I think, just think the Hawks are probably looking to get two players for around the 5.5 milion. So I guess it depends on how much you value Big Baby Davis. He certainly showed a lot last year. If he would be happy in his role here in Atlanta, I would like to him as an addition.

Hawk n the Ham

July 16th, 2009
11:31 am

Ummmm…..’cause we need another 4 man maybe? Because Davis’ mid range stroke improves more and more. Because Davis has big time playoff experience. Because he has developed under a coach better than Woody……….so on, so on

Johnny Hazeltine

July 16th, 2009
11:37 am

Because Glen Davis struggles to guard anybody. Because he has trouble scoring really close to the basket because of his height. Because he only ever average about 12 ppg. Because he’ll get out rebounded by his counterpart.

You want playoff experience, the Hawks would be much better taking a chance on the gimpy Leon Powe.

The Hawks should go after Hakim Warrick. He’ll be about $2M cheaper than Davis, he’s more efficient, and fits better in the Hawks system.

MannyT

July 16th, 2009
11:40 am

Siler played for Minnesota in the Las Vegas Summer League. Here are his stats.
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sl_garrett__siler

I wonder why the guards sign up for the Hawks mini camp versus teams that might have a real need for guards.

BWAF

Anakin Joe

July 16th, 2009
11:48 am

Funny, I mentioned Chris Taft like maybe last week but only as a joke. Samuel, if Taft could get an invite, why not Jackie Butler?

Sekou, what about Othella Hunter? I would have thought he would be in the mini-camp to get a first-hand comparison of his development/potential vs. some of these other guys. I noticed Gardner was playing out in Las Vegas but do you know if Hunter is with another squad?

jake

July 16th, 2009
11:50 am

I hope Christmas can make the team!

Wabe

July 16th, 2009
12:01 pm

And Johnny,

I co-sign on alot of those things you mentioned about Davis – meaning I agree the Hawks need a bruiser at the 4 who can play around the basket (someone who can scrap)…

But I’ll take 12 ppg anyday for a guy coming off the bench whose primary job will be to backup Smoove…

Myrak43

July 16th, 2009
12:08 pm

Anakin Joe,

Who is Gardner playing for?

Johnny Hazeltine

July 16th, 2009
12:09 pm

The thing about Big Baby is that I don’t think he’s a real bruiser. I think he’s got a SF’s mentality in a C’s body.

Hakim Warrick is a better rebounder and a better scorer than Davis. He’ll remind a lot of Hawks’ fans of Josh Childress in his ability to always being able to be at the right spot at the right time.

~ Glen Davis 2008-09 (per 36 minutes) 11.7 ppg / 6.6 rpg
~ Hakim Warrick 2008-09 (per 36 minutes) 16.9 ppg / 7.2 rpg

Oh, and Warrick will be cheaper than Davis!

Hawk n the Ham

July 16th, 2009
12:09 pm

@ Wabe & Johnny,

I do agree with some of your assesments of Davis. But like Wabe said, I’ll take someone (who actually AVG 16 ppg in the playoffs) as a backup player, who can also start in case of injuries to our frontcourt players. Plus, Davis kind of reminds me of Super Mario in the way he plays with a fire in his belly. Good qualities for the backup 4 man.

bird

July 16th, 2009
12:28 pm

Christmas has mad game, poor mans Joe Johnson..

Will

July 16th, 2009
12:33 pm

I hope we sign Siller

Will

July 16th, 2009
12:34 pm

Ernest

July 16th, 2009
12:44 pm

$5.5 million is too much to pay for someone that ‘may’ see 12-16 minutes per game. Given his youth, he would want a situation where he can get 20+ minutes/game. As someone indicated, there are several veterans we could get to fill the role of the 2nd big man off the bench at a lower cost.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 16th, 2009
12:45 pm

Damn… there have been some big time lottery busts in the past but I can’t recall any who fell off as hard as Yaroslav Korolev. I’m trying to think if I can remember him playing at all, but nah, can’t remember a single minute of him playing. I wonder if whatever possessed the Clippers to pick him so early will show itself.

KC

July 16th, 2009
12:51 pm

The hawks needs proven NBA players not some NBDL projects. Siler is a good #12-13 guy to develop. I have no problem with that. We still have a MAJOR hole inside. Shaq, Howard, KG, Sheed, etc will have our guys in foul trouble and I don’t want to see the Hawks have to depend on Solo and Siler to provide relief. We need to add several players (older vets) to provide some punch/resistance off the bench.

My thoughts: Wilcox and Theo Ratliff. An inside 5 of Josh Smith, Horford, Zaza, Wilcox, and Ratliff will keep us competitive every night against any team. We might even slip into the top-3 in the East.

hoopinion

July 16th, 2009
12:51 pm

Gardner’s with Portland (2-16 FGA, 1-9 3PTA). Hunter’s with the Warriors team and hasn’t played more than 9 minutes in a game. As for Korolev, he played 6 minutes a game for Dynamo Moscow last season so we may never know what possessed the Clippers to pick him 12th.

mountain_jim

July 16th, 2009
12:55 pm

I also am happy to see the Hawks actually bringing over their earlier Euro picks to check them out and get to know them and their abilities.

I.MUS WRITE- INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY

July 16th, 2009
1:02 pm

Morris must go …I cant take another season of his face on our bench……… I havent really seen Siler play but he has to be an upgrade over Morris -Ewwww Putrid!!! Siler as our 3rd center and Warwick/Gooden/Joe Smith as our reserve Pf……

Cenk/Serg…… If they make the team where/when do they play…… woody is as about as creative as a box of crayons………

I.MUS WRITE- INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY

July 16th, 2009
1:05 pm

Chris Taft ….we might as well keep Solo, how the hell are we gonna get that man to practice and games when Magic city is right around the corner….I mean he may have arm injuries as well from throwing money……AW Dam!!!!!

I.MUS WRITE- INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY

July 16th, 2009
1:11 pm

What would it take to get Jeff Foster or Pryzbilla……… we will have the same problems next year if we dont get a reliable big to go with Al/ZAZA…………..

Terell where u at bro. I just figured by now you would have gotten back at I.MUS WRITE for stating his opinion. I mean thatz what u do right…………….

Any of yall see Hangover or Street fighter the legend of Chung Li……2 excellent movies

Sekou Smith

July 16th, 2009
1:22 pm

Don’t know if I’d be prepared to blow the entire mid-level on Big Baby. I like him and all, but the entire mid-level? Not sure about that one.

Jeff Foster, P’billa or any proven NBA big like that would improve the Hawks’ depth dramatically. But they’d have to make some moves to get that done. On the free agent market there just aren’t as many options (at the price the Hawks are probably willing to pay and for the time and money that most of the good cats want) as we’d all like there to be.

It’s going to take some creative work by the Hawks to get something done.

As for Othello Hunter on the mini-camp list, I don’t know that he will be attending. But I do know there has been talk of him coming back for training camp. Depends on who snags one of those final roster spots that remain up for grabs.

macaroni tony

July 16th, 2009
1:40 pm

this would be great we have room for about five more players…. And I see why JC want get the money that he wants, and that’s because you can get some players to play almost for free.

terrell barron

July 16th, 2009
1:45 pm

What’s up with Marvin?

Ernest

July 16th, 2009
1:47 pm

Sekou, was there any ‘bad blood’ between Pryz and BK? I recall a few years when we had him, I thought we had a good defensive presence in the middle. When we chose Jason Collier (may he rest in peace) over Pryz, I was surprised. Any recollection about that decision and situation? Do any of the other bloggers recall that?

Sekou Smith

July 16th, 2009
1:49 pm

Nothing on Marvin tb. I suspect it will be quiet for a while. And that BK-P’billa stuff predates my time here Ernest. I’ve never heard about anything like that, but it doesn’t mean there wasn’t something there.

Joe's place Joe speaking

July 16th, 2009
1:52 pm

Anyone heard pf the Smyrna Community Center basketball leagues? Anyone good enough to play?I’m looking for a few good men ( sorry had to say that ). I am looking for a some big men and some guards. If anyone is interested let me know!

Ernest

July 16th, 2009
1:59 pm

Sekou, thanks for the quick follow-up! BTW, you ought to ask Bradley to take you to Houston’s for the Prime Rib or Hawaiian steak. When he blogs about the Hawks, he generates a LOT of traffic… :)

Gerald

July 16th, 2009
1:59 pm

Always thought Sundiata would make a good fourth or fifth guard for some NBA team. At UGA he shot threes well, and showed good shot selection overall. He displayed good decision-making, rarely turning the ball over. And he proved to be an outstanding rebounder for a small guard. Hard to tell about his defense; the SEC didn’t have a lot of great point guards during his years.

Obviously the NBA is a lot different than the SEC, but I’m a fan. Wouldn’t make much sense for the Hawks though.

cp

July 16th, 2009
2:08 pm

Yea I would love to have Hunter back. The kid showed some promise in the few minutes he played. I would rather have him on the bench than Morris. We sure do have a lot of guards coming in for this camp. Good to see the second round guys come in.

Ariose

July 16th, 2009
2:08 pm

At this point, I don’t think were gonna sign a good FA big man…..BRING ON THE DRAFT BUST SCUBS!!!!!!

Saw Huertas play in HS and at Florida, and at Ole Miss when he transferred. Good shooter…

Ariose

July 16th, 2009
2:09 pm

*SCRUBS!!!!!!!

kirkinga

July 16th, 2009
2:18 pm

Anderson reported to on the verge of signing a 3-year $7.5 million contract with the Rockets. That would be less than the was making in Europe.

niremetalplease find an argument about the Anderson sale that you can stick to. And shouldn’t you be eyeball-deep in Bar-Bri right now?

Anderson is gone, it’s done. Time to move on. But there is a bit more information/details to the story.

According to Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle, Anderson is a Rocket, not because of play time, but because the Hawks never made an effort to sign him. Apparently they have wanted him..as a backup.. for some time now but the Hawks only decided to do something now because he was going to sign a long-term contract and would have been lost forever.

Apparently the Hawks held an auction of sorts. The Rockets won out over the Griz and Mavs. Here’s the link to Justice’s column: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6531475.html

As for “getting it”, I would suggest that should be better directed to the Hawks. They need to get their frontcort together. Unlike waiting on a market for a restricted free agent to develop, there are only so many big men that have a reasonable chance of providing the kind of length and /or skill set the Hawks are going to need if they are to remain among the top 4 teams in the East.

If all we needed was someone to be on the floor for 10-15 minutes (um, yesterday it was only 8-10 minutes) then we have that already. I would suggest that the Hawks look for someone who can actually play for 10,15, 30 minutes if necessary.

Injuries and foul trouble happen and it’s just not prudent to have the mindset that the guy you bring in is just going to be called on to play limited minutes.Josh, Al, and ZaZa, have all missed games the past two seasons and there is no reason to believe that that will not be the case this season. So whoever the Hawks acquire better be able to contribute more than spot duty.

Go Hawks!!

niremetal

July 16th, 2009
2:20 pm

My guess is that we add a low-key FA big man. Nothing too fancy – just a guy who can play the type of role and minutes that Magloire played last year in Miami (10-12 minutes per game as needed, more if someone is hobbled). I know that I’ve mentioned his name several times – but my suggestion is Adonal Foyle.

Marcus

July 16th, 2009
2:21 pm

Lotta guards on the mini-camp roster.

niremetal

July 16th, 2009
2:24 pm

And Kirk – the guy should be able to contribute more than spot duty. But you still don’t “get” it. As Sekou said, Andersen didn’t want to come here with the only real prospect of him playing more than 10-15 minutes a game on a semi-regular basis (and I think 15 is being generous) is if guys get hurt. There are a lot of NBA vets who are willing to take on that kind of role. Magloire, Foyle, maybe even Tony Battie, etc.

And hey, I’m entitled to a 10-minute break every couple hours ;)

Ken

July 16th, 2009
2:26 pm

Hey Sekou,

Do you know what happened to Georgia Tech’s Alade Aminu? Is he trying to make someone else’s training camp, I was surprised not to see his name on the list. And aside from Big Baby and Chris Wilcox, do you know of any other bigger name free agent big men that are still out there?

Reggie

July 16th, 2009
2:33 pm

Sekou

Hawks interested in Matt Barnes? Is this rumor true?

Joe's place Joe speaking

July 16th, 2009
2:34 pm

Anyone heard of the Smyrna Community Center Basketball Leagues? Anyone good enough to play?I’m looking for a few good men ( sorry had to say that ). I am looking for a some big men and some guards. If anyone is interested let me know! Does anyone here play Basketball and live in or around Smyrna?

G State Ben

July 16th, 2009
2:38 pm

Aminu is on the Washington Wizards Summer League roster.

kirkinga

July 16th, 2009
2:45 pm

niremetal Fair enough. But there needs to be a sense of urgency. We need that urgency not because bloggers need something new to talk about, but because the pool of effective big men has dwindled. When you don’t control the timetable, you have to be not only shrewd, but alert and nimble in how you maneuver.

I hope Ariose is wrong, but if they don’t get moving there wlll be nothing left but scrubs. I’m willing to give Sund the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he has some potential trades for a big and we all will applaud as we did with the Crawford deal.

(Yes you are so entitled to said breaks. Good luck, and we’ll be expecting great news come November.)

rainman

July 16th, 2009
2:50 pm

Well, I’m about ready to throw in the towel and accept the fact that Horford will be the starting center this year. No sense talking about a lineup with him at PF and I can’t see him sitting on the bench. Of course he could rotate to PF if Zaza or another true center were in the game.

So, what should he be doing to prepare for his upcoming clashes with several centers who have a size & strength advantage? Some say he should expand his offensive game and retain or improve his quickness. Some say he needs to hit the weight room, add some lbs., and concentrate on the hole. Is it possible he could do both? What do you think Sekou?