The breakdown
The Hawks finally scratched their seven year itch and moved on 2002 draft pick David Andersen ... by moving him to Houston for cash, considerations and a future second-round draft pick.
HAWKSVILLE - Things are moving so quickly around here these days, you might mistake this for a regular NBA offseason.
It’s been a long time coming for the Hawks. But for the first time in years, certainly in my years here, things are moving at a fast and furious pace that I think we can all appreciate.
Trades. Free agent signings (and re-signings). It’s all going down before mid-August, which is a welcome change to the Hawks’ recent past, when summer transactions always seemed to stretch into fall.
But in the interest of our collective sanity, can we please cease and desist the needless attacks on Josh Childress (here, on Twitter and everywhere else)?
He’s moved on for another season – back to Greece if you haven’t heard. We can joust about him next summer, when it might actually mean something.
In closing, however, both sides did the right things. Childress couldn’t in good faith turn his back on the kind of money he’ll make with Olympiakos this coming season for a sub-mid-level deal in either Milwaukee or Charlotte, cities that haven’t sniffed the playoffs lately (ever in Charlotte’s case). The Hawks did the right thing in not losing an asset like Childress for a player (be it Kurt Thomas in Milwaukee or Raja Bell in Charlotte) that doesn’t offer much value beyond an expiring contract. They were right to demand more in exchange for a player in his prime (Childress is just 26), be it a future draft pick or cash or something else. The Hawks remain the (NBA) team with leverage where Childress is concerned, and they’d be wise to hold on to that leverage as long as possible.
Moving on, there was this afternoon’s mild surprise that the Hawks traded David Andersen’s rights to Houston for a future second-round pick, cash and future considerations. That could be counted that as yet another shrewd and calculated move by a Hawks team that has made many this summer, so long as Andersen doesn’t turn out to be the second coming of Luis Scola.
Andersen’s 29 and a longtime pro of consequence in Europe. He’s hardly prepared to surrender his ability to earn more money in Europe for a situation in the NBA that won’t allow him to recoup his losses in a fit to his liking. With the Hawks he would have been stuck behind Zaza Pachulia in the rotation, his only real opening for playing time coming if someone else suffered a serious injury (I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t sound like an ideal set up to me).
In return, the Hawks snagged not only a future second-round draft pick to replace Andersen, they also collect cash believed to be in the amount of $2 million, which comes in handy as this summer goes on (and they continue to scour the free agent landscape for big man help). After years of sitting on their assets it’s time the Hawks started cashing in a few of these chips (Cenk “Blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-a” Akyol is the next international talent the Hawks must evaluate, to see if and when he might be ready to help the cause).
This is a win for Andersen as well. He should have a clear path to playing time in Houston, provided the Rockets work out a deal to free him from his contract with FC Barcelona. With Yao Ming’s injury situation and the departure of Ron Artest, the Rockets will have to reinvent themselves on the fly (if any coach is capable of coming up with something, Rick Adelman is the man to do it).
It’s just nice to see the Hawks immersed in routine summer business for a change, stuff that doesn’t involve them squandering assets the way they did when guys like Antoine Walker, Al Harrington and Tony Delk moved on without the Hawks getting much of anything in return.
Think about it, had someone told you this time a year ago that the Hawks could get a player of Jamal Crawford’s caliber for Acie Law IV and Speedy Claxton you’d have jumped on that without hesitation.
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Daniel
July 15th, 2009
3:30 pm
Alright guys here is a question for you at the same money who do you want Gooden or Wilcox?
Dekaturkingz
July 15th, 2009
3:30 pm
I MUS.WRITE , Just Representing For The Home Team.
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
3:31 pm
Mark, it’s Horford, not Hartford for crying out loud. Come on now. Must be a newbie jumping on the Hawks bandwagon. lol!!!
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
3:31 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Richard-Jefferson-gets-cold-feet-leaves-bride-a;_ylt=AlpGR4OvDdY4FnwKc5omUvo5nYcB?urn=nba,176702
I know somebody poted this, but I don’t see it anymore soo…
cp
July 15th, 2009
3:32 pm
It seems like every guy we don’t sign here people want to make that guy into a better player than he actually is. Andersen is a soft big who does not rebound or play defense and last time I checked we needed someone who could. The guy did not want to be here after we signed Pachulia. We cant force guys to come here we can only offer them a deal. It is up to that player if they want to be here or not. I think it was a good deal for us. Brian Skinner would be a nice pick up for this team. Give me Gerald Green over Mario…….On a side note, Law is really struggling with the Warriors. I hope the kid gets it together.
your pimps in Houston
July 15th, 2009
3:33 pm
word has it that HAKEEM “THE DREAM” will be working with Anderson, too.
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
3:36 pm
Kirk, why could’nt Ole Woodrow just put Anderson in when we needed offense, if he doesn’t play good defense? Put Horford or Zaza back on the floor on the defensive end. No what I mean?
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
3:36 pm
*posted
Mike
July 15th, 2009
3:38 pm
At 7 ft tall Andersen averaged only 4 boards a game in the Euroleague. He also was invisible in the playoffs. He can hit a baseline jumper, but he wouldn’t have solved any problems for the Hawks in the paint.
Also, people shouldn’t ignore the $2 million. That may be the difference between getting a serviceable big man as a back-up and not. Some of these teams have nearly unlimited resources, but the Hawks don’t. If they had just traded Andersen for a guy like Wilcox straight up it wouldn’t look bad; the money may make the difference in getting a guy like that.
Any word, Sekou, on what the “additional future considerations” first mentioned were, other than a 2nd round pick?
O'Brien
July 15th, 2009
3:42 pm
One thing we fail to take into account, (as previously mentioned). Andersen is in a similar position like Chills. If he doesnt want to play for the Hawks, he can go back overseas and make his $2 or $3 mil salary regardless.
The veteran NBA big will accept a contract from an NBA team, because that’s their best option. Plus the veteran NBA big has made their millions already, so they might be more willing to take $2 mil knowing they’re roles will be limited.
tb,
There is not many minutes behind Josh at PF, because sometimes Al plays PF while ZaZa plays center. But I agree with you. I hope we bring in an established veteran big like Drew Gooden or Wilcox. heck, I’d even take old Joe Smith. We need more bigs to throw at Howard-Gortat-Bass/Shaq-Big Z-Varajeo/KG-Perkins-Rasheed etc.
(And lets face it. If Woody was a better coach, he would have an offensive scheme that forces other teams to play our game. Instead, we end up playing their game). And although to be a good running team, you must play defense and rebound, but even on a made FG, you can still push the ball up court. I still think the Hawks need to run more, and we need an offensive identity (not iso JJ).
Lets hope Woody brings in an assistant who maximizes our offensive identity.
cp
July 15th, 2009
3:55 pm
I was just reading an article the Mercury news did on Law. They say he is out of shape, has no confidence, the Warriors will probably not pick up his option so he will probably be used as an expiring contract. Ariose if you can find the story link that for me. I was hoping the kid could turn it around but its not looking good for him at all. What happened to the captain clutch Law from college? He cant blame Woodson for this. I cant lie I was one of the guys on Woodsons case for not playing him but it looks like I might have to eat some crow for this one.
MannyT
July 15th, 2009
3:56 pm
Melvin, in response to your question this morning, the luxury money is redistributed among the teams that did not go over the cap. I am not sure, but I think it was a little under 3 mil for this past season that a team gets if under the lux tax.
BWAF
MannyT
July 15th, 2009
4:01 pm
For all the reasons you want to play the Andersen thing in a similar light to Chills situation, I have to disagree. Chills was here and left for a better financial opportunity. Some of you rip him for choosing more money in a lesser league.
Andersen never was here. Now there is stain on him because he wants a better chance to get minutes if he comes over to the better league. He’s older and doesn’t have the career time to wait on the bench to gain the confidence of a new coach. If he is gong to make an impression, he needs a chance to play. While nothing is guaranteed, it is a fact that Houston needs big men right now–so he is likely to get a better shot there. The Hawks just came off their best season in this century–I don’t see Woody wanting to throw a new guy into the mix as quickly.
The good side of this as basketball fans is that we can see what the 2002 pick is like in the NBA. Good for the fans.
BWAF
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
4:04 pm
We should’ve traded Andersen’s rights to Boston in a S&T for Glen Big Baby Davis. He wouldn’t get any PT there but who cares, he’s a scrub and we’re tying to gain some ground in the East.
Speaking of Big Baby, I wonder if there was any way to get him without Boston matching the offer, that doesn’t involve us giving up too much(Siler, Randolph, Mario etc..)
Just some wishful thinking.
kirkinga
July 15th, 2009
4:05 pm
O’Brien, I understand what you are saying and it sounds good. While you may have “nailed it” for those fans who have zero intellectual curiosity about the trade, I remain unconvinced and let me tell you why.
There are some here who build arguments around the fact that Anderson made $3 million playing in Europe and that he didn’t want to give that up to play less minutes for the Hawks. Of course others have argued that he made $3 million and that minutes, not money were the incentive for his asking for a trade. Still others argue that the Rockets provide him a showcase for his talents from which he will earn handsome sums in the future.
According to Houston Chronicle:
The Rockets expect to sign Andersen using a portion of the mid-level exception remaining after they were able to use the disabled player exception to sign Trevor Ariza.
A reasonable inference can be drawn that since he is only getting a “portion” of the residual MLE allotment,that he may not be making substantially more than he was making in Europe and could possibly make less. One would certainly think that he would command the full MLE if the argument is he wouldn’t just leave his guaranteed $3 million dollars. At any case, his salary demand doesn’t seem to be as high as some suggest in their arguments.
The argument that he wanted to go play somewhere where he could get more minute sounds good, but doesn’t withstand the slightest bit of intellectual rigor.Players salaries do not always rest on a purely rational basis in professional sports. This argument is the biggest failure as it is thoroughly and completely debunked by recent events.
I give you Marcin Gortat. He averaged 6.8 minutes in 6 games during 07-08. In only 63 games this season he averaged…wait for it…12.6 minutes ppg! (3.8 ppg along with 4.5 rpg). If the argument that Anderson could not reap a salary windfall playing only 10-15 minutes ppg as a Hawk is a sound one, how does one explain Mr. Gorat signing for 5 years $34 million? He was coveted by a number of teams, so it wasn’t just the Magic that saw value in paying a guy who plays about a quarter’s worth of minutes a game, when he even plays in a game.
So while I can understand that any given player may not want to play for a certain team, I am still left with unanswered questions about Anderson and the Hawks. Seems to me that if his concern was playing time and future earnings, all the Hawks had to do was point to Gorat, or even Ariza who has never average 20 minutes ppg. Not to mention, they could have paid him more than he is likely to get from the Rockets.
Also left unanswered is how is it that we don’t have more minutes available for another big man. I thought most here have expressed a preference for another “big man or two”? What happened? Now we have no minutes available? Really?
Is the word out now that the Hawks don’t have any minutes available?Why would any player want to come to a team where there aren’t any available minutes? It’s likely a player who is comfortable getting the most dollars while making the least contribution. That is not how you build a ball team.
I apologize if I am being dense, but given last season’s problems, shouldn’t the Hawks have more than just a few minutes available for a big man that can help them?
If allotting more minutes to Teague and Crawford, is a good idea to take some strain away from Bibby and JJ, then why is it we cannot have ZaZa and another quality big lessening the burden on Josh and Al? And those of you who argue that selling Anderson to the Rockets is a good thing, must by implication, believe that resigning ZaZa is enough.
I strongly disagree.
Go Hawks!!
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
4:06 pm
How about Randolph,and All the stuff we just got from Houston? Plus maybe a future 2nd of our own? For Big Baby?
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
4:12 pm
Maybe Andersen didn’t like the makeup of our team/specefic players? I know that sounds silly, but you can’t rule that out as a factor. Even though we did just make it to the semifinals.
There may have been something that his agent isn’t saying that he and Andersen have discussed behiend closed doors.
kirkinga
July 15th, 2009
4:14 pm
terrell barron, Coach Woodson is really inconsequential this season. Sund saw to that first thing. But you raise a good point. What you are saying is that he could have been of some use to the Hawks. I agree. That is why I think we are missing some information.
I call b.s. on this retroactive devaluation of Anderson. No one ever said he of starter quality, but that he possessed enough skill, and length to help the Hawks against some of the frontlines that they struggled against. People expressed that evaluation during one more than one offseason too I might add.
And now he a “scrub”?
Pure squish!
Go Hawks!!
Neil
July 15th, 2009
4:16 pm
Sekou,
All of this talk about going after a big, do you know about any bigs that the Hawks have been considering or talking to?
CajunStorm
July 15th, 2009
4:20 pm
Daniel- You are hilarious bro! I ‘m with you though. Don’t mistake my puttin forth a case with money spent with being a R. Morris fan. He has no rythym about him. The word I’ve been using is “robotic.” Mark Madsen comes to mind. Hell, he even cost more than Morris and had about as much rythym too. LOL.
BTW- I’ll take Gooden over Wilcox. He has a better shot selection, plays better D, can play the 4 or 5, runs the floor better and is a better rebounder. Problem now is that LA is looking at him since pulling the contract from heavily overpaid Odom (another 11pt 8reb guy) just like Gooden. Hey Rick, pull the trigger on Marvin and Drew already. Don’t overspend to do it though.
O'Brien
July 15th, 2009
4:21 pm
Kirk,
You made some good points, but like Sekou said, Andersen did not want to play for the Hawks. So rather than have him sit overseas again (and become a wasted 2nd round pick), trade him for other assets that we can actually use (even if its further down the road).
Likewise, Chills doesnt want to play for the Hawks, so I wish the Hawks could trade him for assets that we can actually use to benefit the Hawks. Unfortunately, the Hawks werent able to find a deal they liked for Chills.
Ariose,
I wonder if Boston will match a mid-level offer to Big Baby. For the record, although I wish we could get him, he is probably out of the Hawks price range. The Hawks are probably looking to get somebody in the $2-$3 mil price range.
CajunStorm
July 15th, 2009
4:25 pm
Dang Kirkinga…that was a long post!
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
4:25 pm
O’Brien, I think you’re right. That would be great too. Then we coulf re-sign Flip(maybe) with the remaining 2mill, Sign Gerald Green with the Bi-Annual, and re-sign Solo and Mario.
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
4:34 pm
Josh Smith for Anthony Randolph? Hahaha! Please tell me your’re joking? And Austin Daye? Please? Yall need to stop watching summer league. I know your’re bored, just like I am, but dont let that stuff go to your head. Marvin looked like Michael Jordan out there a few years ago. Not hatin on Marvin, just sayin. Hell, Von Wafer was MVP, and dropped 48 in a game, so I guess we shoula traded JJ for him? lol! And if I’m not mistaken, He tried out for the Hawks that year, and didn’t even make the team.
O'Brien
July 15th, 2009
4:38 pm
Ariose,
I think you’re expecting too much. What I would like to see, is sign Drew Gooden, sign Gerald Green (low risk/high reward), and resign Solo.
We dont need Mario. He averages 5 minutes per game, in about 59 games each season. And Woody does not know how/when to use him anyway. And with both JJ and Crawford to play SG, where would Mario get his minutes? And hopefully JJ will play better defense, since he wont be required to play 40 minutes per game.
Hawksfanatic
July 15th, 2009
4:44 pm
Who cares if David Andersen becomes a great player? He wasn’t going to play here and his direct impact on the Hawks is 2 games every season. Maybe if we meet up with the Rockets in the finals one day we will say “oh dang, we shouldn’t have done that trade”, but let’s be honest that isn’t happening anytime soon.
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
4:54 pm
Interesting. Maybe that 2 mill we made today was for Woody’s buyout? lol!!
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
5:00 pm
O’Brien, you’re right we don’t realln need Rio. But he’s a nice team guy to have around lol. But i’d be just as happy with G.Green, Gooden ,and Solo.
Ken
July 15th, 2009
5:03 pm
HEy Sekou,
From Anderson trade, I understang we got a future 2nd rd pick, about 2 million cash, and future considerations? You have any idea what that is or what it means? And heard any word on Marv’s negotiations or what big men we may be looking at?
Oh, and I heard Josh Smith is out of the country, you know if he’s on vacation or training with someone in particular?
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
5:03 pm
Where is “Anderson didn’t want to play for the Hawks” coming from?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 15th, 2009
5:06 pm
Ariose, you are looking at the wrong Celtics backup big man. Big Baby will cost too much, like O’Brien said. Leon Powe, on the other hand, is coming off an ACL injury and is probably expendable to the Celtics with Rasheed Wallace in the mix. The Hawks can probably grab him for a minimum contract, and if he returns to form he is a rebounding machine.
I’d like to see the Hawks get Wilcox and then throw a couple of minimum deals (we’re talking well under $1 million) at Powe and Ime Udoka (poor man’s Childress). The good teams always find a way to grab contributors off the scrap heap that nobody else notices — kinda like the Hawks did with Flip Murray last year.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 15th, 2009
5:07 pm
“Where is “Anderson didn’t want to play for the Hawks” coming from?”
In one of Sekou’s posts earlier on this blog, he indicated that Andersen was interested in the Hawks under the assumption that Zaza would leave and he would get his minutes. When Zaza was re-signed, Andersen’s focus shifted elsewhere. I don’t remember there being a direct quote from Andersen that he didn’t want to play here, but the reasoning behind it makes sense.
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
5:07 pm
Ken, where did you hear that from? Who gives out that kind of info? Must suck to be rich and famous. Probably just some idiot using Josh Smith as an alias. Remember Ron Mexico?
terrell barron
July 15th, 2009
5:09 pm
Anderson coulda backed up Smoove. He’s more of a pf, than he is a center. IMO
Sekou Smith
July 15th, 2009
5:15 pm
Apology accepted kirk.
mountain_jim
July 15th, 2009
5:21 pm
haha – ok Sekou what’s the details on the 2nd round pick or why won’t they disclose those details yet?
ChuckOldSchool
July 15th, 2009
5:24 pm
Hey,
First time poster. I am a Hornets fan, but I live in here Atlanta. The Hawks have been a very interesting team to follow. I have to comment on this David Andersen trade, though. I think sometimes when a team is transitioning from mediocre to possibly contending as the Hawks have done over the past two years, we tend to overvalue assets just a tad. As you get better, your frame of reference has to change. The litmus test for gauging whether or not a trade or a signing is succesful isn’t just by asking if said move makes your team better. So, what if signing Andersen makes the Hawks better? How much better? Marginally at best, if you ask me. At what cost? I think Houston is paying him somewhere around 2.5 a season for two years with a team option for a third. At the end of the day, Andersen doesn’t catapult the Hawks to Celtics, Magic, or Cavs territory nor does he add any additional separation from Miami, Toronto or Philly.
Good move by the Hawks.
niremetal
July 15th, 2009
5:26 pm
I just DINGed Bradley’s latest. My god. What an idiot. But hey, if you’re gonna be a poseur, you might as well talk out of your ass in the process.
Melvin
July 15th, 2009
5:38 pm
Nire,
You and Bradley may need to have a 3 round Blog Death Match… That guy sure does get under your skin. I’m sure you do the same for him as well (although he may not admit it on his blog).
Sterling Platinum
July 15th, 2009
5:39 pm
I may be crazy, but I think we can get Ben Wallace on the cheap since he was just bought out. If we can get him on the cheap, let’s do it. He would be a great backup 4 for Josh and adds defense and rebounding. I think he buckled under the pressure of a large contract, now he got his money so that shouldn’t be an issue. I believe he has something in the tank. With Brandon Bass in Orlando, the only other person I can think of is Wilcox. Maybe, if he doesn’t command as much we can use our midlevel on both he and Wallace (I’m being greedy now). Just a thought.
niremetal
July 15th, 2009
5:46 pm
Melvin,
He barely watched the Hawks during the regular season. I put up the number at some point – he wrote something like 3 times as many articles about the Braves offseason than he did about the Hawks’ regular season. It’s clear he barely watched the team during the regular season. It pisses me off to no end that he writes as if he knows jack about the team as a whole based on what was probably a sample of 5-10 regular season games and 11 playoff games (the latter of which when JJ, Marvin, and Al all were hurt).
He’ll never admit it. But he and I and many other people know it’s true.
Wabe
July 15th, 2009
5:47 pm
To Dos Hawkis,
Why do you think bringing Flip back is an outrageous statement? Sund loves him, and I dont understand why having depth in the backcourt hurts..
I hate to say this, but let’s use last season as an example…
Marvin Williams missed an extended amount of games last season with injuries. IMO, he’s injury prone. By this, I mean it’s not unlikely that he could face this same issue next season. Point would be, one or two injuries could mean ‘too much depth’ turns into ‘not enough depth’.
You can’t plan for injuries. Flip offers great minutes when he comes off the bench, and I don’t think it’s outrageous to assume SUND (WHO LOVES FLIP) would bring him back for a minimal amount of money and possibly a minimal role…
There are few things the Hawks cannot plan for:
1) Injuries
2) Teague’s Production
3) How Crawford fits
You keep Flip as a safety valve, and at worst, have valued depth in the backcourt to maybe make a mid-season move to aquire something of need…
Most in here may disagree with me, and I completely understand if you think bringing him back would limit other players minutes who should get a chance to play (ACIE LAW-LIKE SITUATION). But I would think too much talent is better than not enough talent…
Wasn’t JJ complaining about being tired at the end of last season? It wouldn’t hurt to limit JJ + Bibby’s minutes through the season, keep them fresh.
Sekou Smith
July 15th, 2009
5:48 pm
It’s a second round pick Jim, who cares? Seriously. David Andersen was drafted in 2002 and is just now on the cusp of coming to the NBA. It’s just the way business is done sometimes in the NBA. This is not some covert operation. I’m stunned by all the conspiracy theories. It’s craziness.
Free agency brings out the kook in us all, I guess. This Ben Wallace idea is intriguing, Sterling P. I do know that the Hawks have reached out in that direction but haven’t heard yet if there was any response. Wallace has options if indeed he wants to play this season. And he can be had for a nice price now that he has that $10 million buyout in his pocket.
Melvin
July 15th, 2009
5:54 pm
Nire,
As much anguish you have toward Bradley, I will put my money on you in the Blog Death Match…
vava74
July 15th, 2009
6:00 pm
People, let’s be reasonable:
1. We would never contend for the title this year, regardless of ANY free agent available on the market now.
2. IF we keep our heads cool, we may contend within 2 or 3 years.
3. For this, we will need a few things:
a) Re-sign Marvin now;
b) Re-sign JJ and Crawford next year (I really think that he will fit in nicely);
c) Teague must evolve and take over from Bibby;
d) Bibby must be happy to become a vet out of the bench bringing in some steady leadership and clutch shots in controlled doses;
e) J-Smoove must realise that he is a role player (a 5-star role player, but a role player) and concentrate in: Interior defense (not only blocks), rebounding, improve shot selection.
f) Big Al must gain 15 pounds and improve his offensive reportoire.
g) Add a couple of role players or give a chance of what we have to evolve (Rio brings hustle, not only in games, when he plays, but in practice, which is also important, Solo, who has improved marginally every year, but improved, and see if Otello and Morris would evolve if permanently assigned to a NBDL team).
4. STOP DREAMING with big time/mid high level free agents because they will not come to ATL.
5. Stick with the team and things will progress.
6. Don’t bring poisonous characters like Wilcox, Stromile Swift, etc… Bring blue collar workers like Powe, the Collins brothers, etc.
The Truth
July 15th, 2009
6:01 pm
Could we please stop this whining about Anderson? He’s gone; get over it. Therefore, Sund gets an “I” for incomplete.
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
6:08 pm
Tyger posted this on Bradleys blog:
“Where would we have been without Flip?
Flip – $1.5M per year = 12ppg. 2asst 1.1st. 36%-3 1.60 TO
Bibby – $14M per = 15ppg. 5asst 1.24st. 39%-3 1.62 TO
Flip outplays Bibby, but Bibby is rewarded? Flip shows up in playoffs, while Bibby disappears. Flip defends, Bibby cant.
But Bibby is a great PG and 3pt shooter? +.03% 3pt. + 3 assts. +0.14stl -.02 TO
There’s not a +$13M discrepancy btwn these players and even at $6M he’s still not worth it, unless Flip wanted more than $6M per, which is unlikely.
C’mon Sund get it right, give the money to the guys that earned it. Getting Crawdaddy for AC/Speedy was OK but not the orgasmic experience Col. Schultz makes it out to be – alot of teams would love to clear $9M off there books right now.
Is it really genius to re-sign FA off the 1st team to reach the 2nd rd. in 15 yrs??? Similar to Dimitroff, is it genius or was there no where to go but up? No coach – get a coach, No QB, get a QB – hell, I’m batting a 1.000 already. I digress, but the the Falcoons were 2-1 under HOF Emmitt Thomas!
Re-sign Flip, Solo and go get Drew Gooden, 6′10 250 – 12ppg. 7 reb. w/ low-post skills going both ways, you’re going to be active at the trade deadline anyway.”
I freaking agree!!!…
Wink
July 15th, 2009
6:09 pm
Who represents the bigs for the Atlanta Hawks, bigs that are currently signed?
We have Pachulia 6′11 -7′0, Horford 6′9 – 6′10, Josh Smith, is he a big…sure does not look like it, goes 6′8 – 6′9, who else…hmmm Marvin 6′9, or he’s a wing player, perimeter defender, and he not signed…hmmmmm.
Do we have any other bigs signed, Othello – NO, Solo – NO… or yeah we got Morris 7′0 of nothing…surly will be our 12th or 13th man on the bench, practice player.
Why is it we could not use Anderson, because he did not want to play here…hmmm. Seems Childress did not want to play here either, we maintain his rights; we could have did the same with Andersen…
With all the hoopla & praise of Sund, we have no BIGS. Truth be told, Bosh is no BIG. Rather have two solid rebounders & space eaters to protect the paint than Bosh. Guys like Brandon Bass & Paul Milsap…they are signed but Guys Like Them.
Ariose
July 15th, 2009
6:15 pm
RE-SIGN FLIP!!!!! DAMMIT….
WCJ
July 15th, 2009
6:16 pm
Ben Wallace and Tim Thomas are out there. If they are not to greedy, maybe Atlanta can look them. The problem is like I said before it is about minutes. Mike Woodson does some crazy things with his rotations of hawks players. NO big man is coming to Atlanta unless Woodson can guarantee major minutes.