Childress is headed back to Greece

Josh Childress is headed back to Greece for a second season.

Former Hawks swingman Josh Childress is headed back to Greece for a second season.

 Josh Childress is going back to Greece.

  The former Hawks swingman said he is returning to Olympiakos for the 2009-10 season and will not opt out of his contract and return to the NBA.

  “I still have some unfinished business to tend to,” Childress said by phone early Tuesday morning. “I definitely have unfinished business in Greece.”

  Childress had a Wednesday deadline to notify Olympiakos of his intentions to either come back for a second season overseas or return to the NBA.

  A restricted free agent this summer, Childress said his representatives spent the past two weeks in discussions with the Hawks and several other teams about potential sign-and-trade deals that would have allowed him to return to the NBA this season, but could never get the Hawks to sign off on any of the proposed deals.

  “At the end of the day it’s a business,” Childress said. “I was in basically the same situation last summer. Again, it’s a business and you have to treat it as such.”

  Childress, 26, left for Greece last summer in a groundbreaking move for a restricted free agent of his stature. He signed a three-year, $20 million deal with Olympiakos, a deal that included an opt-out clause at the end of each season that would allow him to return to the NBA.

  The sixth pick in the 2004 NBA draft, Childress spent his first four seasons with the Hawks. He averaged 11.1 points and 5.6 rebounds 285 career games with the Hawks, including 67 games as a starter. He finished sixth in the voting for the NBA’s sixth-man award in his final season with the Hawks two years ago, the franchise’s first playoff season in decade.

  The Hawks own his NBA rights and will continue to do so, provided they extend him a qualifying offer again next summer. His status as a restricted free agent allows the Hawks to match any offers made to him by other NBA teams.

  Milwaukee and Charlotte made strong plays for Childress. He made a visit to Milwaukee the first week of the free agent negotiating period. But in the end, none of the deals worked out.

  “When I left Greece to come back [here to the U.S.], I had it in my head that was going back to Greece no mater what,” Childress said. “Then when I got home and had my feet on the ground for a couple of days, I really wanted to explore my options and see what was out there. It was 50-50 from there.”

  Now that he knows he’s going back to Greece, Childress said he can finish what he started. A sports hernia injury sidelined him for a long stretch of Olympiakos’ season. Still, he returned in time to help his team to a spot in the Euroleague Final Four and a spot in the Greek League championship series.

  “My team did well, but there’s no question, I didn’t have the year I wanted to have,” Childress said. “And with that being said, I have some serious work left to do in Athens. That was part of my decision to go back, as well.”

  It helped, he said, that Olympiakos made it clear that they wanted him back for another year.

  “They let me know as soon as the season was over that they waned me back,” he said. “With me not having the best year I could have, it says a lot about the commitment they made to me that they didn’t hesitate to let me know that. It shows me they have a lot of respect for their players.”

 

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Doug Woodard

July 14th, 2009
6:35 pm

Why are some posters clamoring for the Hawks to re-sign Flip?? Look at his career and Crawfords…by any fair rendering he is simply a “poor man’s” Crawford..i.e. streaky shooter and scorer…but Crawford is more explosive…can create for others somewhat but Crawford can much better…and both pretty poor on the defensive end…we also now have Teague who also has many of the same traits and probably will need to fight for mintes from Woodson as is…we also have limited resources and those resources definitely do NOT need to be spent on another perimeter player…add some relevant size and defensive post ability…resign and extend marvin who is vastly underrated on this board and call it a summer!

Tbird

July 14th, 2009
6:36 pm

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Wabe

July 14th, 2009
6:44 pm

WoW…

What a shocker…

Chills back to Greece…

!SYKE!

Ben

July 14th, 2009
6:57 pm

Hawks have trades rights to David Andersen to Houston for a 2nd round pick and cash considerations.

Blast

July 14th, 2009
6:58 pm

I always knew Chills would return to Greece. It was a no brainer. No way he makes anything close to what he earns overseas in the NBA. And no matter how you cut it, these guys might love basketball to death, in the end, it’s still only a business. Money. I would do the same in a heartbeat. Folks need to quit hating on Chills. Dude has a chance to win a title. Hawks not close to that level yet.

O'Brien

July 14th, 2009
6:59 pm

I wonder if the Hawks tried to find a team for Teague to play in the Summer League? (Although we’ve seen the Hawks refuse to send guys (Gardner, Hunter etc.) to the D-League, even though they were just rotting away on the bench).

Olympiakos

July 14th, 2009
6:59 pm

Hello from Athens.
I found this article through twitter and i managed to read almost all the comments posted till now.
I must say that many people here in Greece expected more from Josh, they had such expectations because most of them never saw him play at NBA and judged from his background and money that Olympiakos paid to bring him in Greece.
I cant say i m unhappy with Josh but i m sure that with that kind of money we could have bought someone more familiar with the european style.
Ou coach loves 5on5 game, that means he likes his team to play hard on defense and take full time in offense. Josh apparently couldnt handle that and in combination with his lack of shooting ability he was trapped between other teams guard unable to reach baseline or make a drive to the basket.
I expect from him this year to play wiser and most of all i expect our coach to take advantages his athletic skills and change our playing style to a faster one.

ps: you ll be surprised to see that Josh improved his shooting skills A LOT when he comes back for the NBA.

KevinA

July 14th, 2009
7:00 pm

Doug,

Crawford FG% in the 2nd quarter for last year was .371 Crawford FG% in the 3rd quarter for last year was .390 We at least when not to play him. Flip averaged .447 for the entire year While Crawford was at .404

Crawford plays his best in the 4th quarter .458 Looks like he needs to ride the pine and come in 4th qt.
The rest of the time he just misses alot and cannot finish.

KevinA

July 14th, 2009
7:02 pm

Ben you got a link?

rainman

July 14th, 2009
7:03 pm

mountain jim – I noticed that also. Sekou, why is your blog not on the main sports page?

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
7:08 pm

RealGM is the only one I’ve seen it on so far:
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60577/20090714/hawks_trade_andersens_rights_to_houston/

If it’s true, I’m ambivalent. Hopefully “future considerations” is the right to swap draft picks at some point. Even if it’s not, a second round pick and cash was probably all we were gonna get for him anyway considering that he’s 29, has never played in the NBA, and apparently never plays defense even in Europe. On the other hand, it would have been nice to have a shooting big man around…but then again, I doubt Andersen would have been willing to come over when the best he could probably hope for in Atlanta was playing 10 minutes a game.

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
7:14 pm

Blast

July 14th, 2009
7:17 pm

Sekou’s blog IS on the main page. It’s been moved, though. It’s on top, on the right next to Zaza’s photo. You click on it, and it opens up all his blogs. His picture is there also.

Melvin

July 14th, 2009
7:19 pm

Nire,

I think its true about Andersen. I see Sekou made reference to it on his twitter page. If it’s true, I think the Hawks may have regret letting him go….

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
7:23 pm

Melvin,

He’ll probably do well in Adelman’s offense…or at least better than anywhere else. He and Sloan are the only coaches in the league whose offenses make semi-frequent use of a shooting big man. Even if he does well there, that’s certainly no guarantee that he’d have done well here.

What would he have done here? We already have 3 guys playing PF and C. As I said, he wouldn’t have gotten more than 10 minutes a game…

cp

July 14th, 2009
7:27 pm

Yea Anakin I think Marcus had something like 17 dimes the other day. I’m rooting for Law but he just does not fit that system. Kind of disappointing to see him struggle in the summer league and this will be his third year in the league…. I think Teague will be playing for some team in August. He mentioned it in a new interview with slam. The Hawks have him set up to play with some team in August. One of the better linkers look for that interview and post it in here, if not I will copy and paste it.

Anakin Joe

July 14th, 2009
7:43 pm

cp, yeah from Slam Online.

Sund should have traded Mo Evans and Andersen for Carl Landry. That would have given us a legit rebounder and defender.

Anakin Joe

July 14th, 2009
7:51 pm

Sautee, anytime you let me get away with a little exagerration, I have come to believe that I must have convinced you that there is a thread of truth. Like when I said that my left big toe weighs more than Mikki Moore. You obviously know that my left big toe weighs 195 pounds.

Ariose

July 14th, 2009
7:55 pm

JSS

July 14th, 2009
8:01 pm

Mike…

That Portsmouth stuff is garbage… Subscribe and watch the Vegas Summer League for yourself… Still is shooting 60% from the field and has been running the floor with Flynn and company just fine…The only thing he has done poorly is foul while protecting the rim…

No one is as bad as Jeff Schultz

Melvin

July 14th, 2009
8:02 pm

Nire,

Andersen haven’t played a min in the NBA so I’m not going to buy into the “He will be effective or look good in a certain offense”. I prefer to give the guy a chance. If he’s productive then it’s shame on the Hawks b/c if you look at their past decade of 2nd rnd picks, how many were productive. So excuse me if I’m not excited by the Hawks receiving another 2nd round pick.

Anakin Joe

July 14th, 2009
8:03 pm

Olympiakos, thanks for stopping by and sharing the analysis of Childress. Come back and let us know how he is doing.

Sautee

July 14th, 2009
8:12 pm

AJ,

Having not met you in person, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt about your physical attributes. ;-)

And besides, we all know that sports measurements are inflated, right? Mikki plays like he’s 6′ 8″. And a not so bright 6′ 8″ at that.

Heh, heh.

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Melvin

July 14th, 2009
8:56 pm

I wouldn’t mind see the Hawks sign Tim Thomas. A guy that can play behind Marvin and Josh off the bench. Tim Thomas, Ryan Hollings and Solo. Now let’s play so ball…

Drewscrilla

July 14th, 2009
9:11 pm

Can the Hawks Please get a Center so we play the rest of our guy at their natural positions. I think we should Za Za and have either J- Smoove or Marvin come off the Bench

Tommy

July 14th, 2009
9:12 pm

Does the trade of anderson mean the hawks are clearing his number to use that money for a big?

Drewscrilla

July 14th, 2009
9:13 pm

My bad I think we should Start Za Za

Doug

July 14th, 2009
9:14 pm

Kevin: Selective statistics: For their careers Jamal averages 16 ppg while Flip averages 9….Jamal shoots slightly ounder 41% Flip slightly over…Jamal does shoot about 5% better for the three point line…with almost three times as many attempts per year! But most importantly he averages 4.5 assists per game to Flip’s 2 while averaging only 2 TO’s to Flips 1.6!! He simply is better…significantly than Flip Murray.

mountain_jim

July 14th, 2009
9:17 pm

I am hoping this andersen trade is somehow helping get another big- otherwise it appears a terrible return, a likely lower 2nd than was spent years ago, on a possibly good player now. And what are the future considerations and how much CASH? CASH does not improve the team, unless it leads to more and better players.

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
9:25 pm

Melvin,

Andersen haven’t played a min in the NBA so I’m not going to buy into the “He will be effective or look good in a certain offense”. I prefer to give the guy a chance. If he’s productive then it’s shame on the Hawks b/c if you look at their past decade of 2nd rnd picks, how many were productive. So excuse me if I’m not excited by the Hawks receiving another 2nd round pick.

Uh…that cuts both ways doesn’t it? David Andersen is one of those 2nd round picks who has not been productive. So you’ll have to excuse me if I’m not too broken up about losing him ;) . After all, if he were a super-stud like Manu or Scola, someone would have brought him over sooner – either the Hawks or else a team willing to give up more than a 2nd round pick for him.

Also, you’re obviously overlooking the fact that probably 80-90% of second round picks never become rotation players in the NBA.

I’m not saying that Andersen will be a bust. I’m making the point that he’s going into one of the few systems that maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

Drewscrilla

July 14th, 2009
9:27 pm

I hate losing flip but I welcome J Crawford and J Teage Cant wait to see how effective they will be.
I heard Flip was signing with another team. I guess we cant keep them all besides we neeed a another Big. LETS GET IT!!! GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
9:30 pm

Cash most certainly does improve the team. Operating revenues, folks. Let’s say it was $1M in cash. That would be the equivalent of 1-2 home games’ worth of operating revenue or, more to the point, 4-5 home games worth of operating profit.

Did nobody else notice that the Lakers sold their first round pick this year? And that several teams sold their second round picks? It’s a tough economy, folks. And Andersen was not gonna be a rotation player here after we re-signed Zaza. Getting a pick and a good amount of cash for him is hardly a bad deal.

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
9:37 pm

Love the last question from Teague’s SLAM interview:
SLAM: Last question for you, I need you to fast forward a bit. You’re running the break for Atlanta and you have Josh Smith on one wing and Joe Johnson on the other. Who do you dish the rock to, or are you taking it to the basket yourself?
JT: [Laughs] Well, if I’ve got Josh for the alley-oop I’m going to give it to him. If I’ve got Joe spotting up for a three, I guess I’ll take my chances with him shooting the three.

Smart kid :)

Ken

July 14th, 2009
9:40 pm

Hey Sekou,

So where are we with finishing up free agency? I’m sure they were waiting to see what happens with our international guys and I believe Marvin is close to getting something done, so who are we looking at?
Chris Wilcox and Big baby are still out there and what’s the deal with Garrett Siler, he got anything?

Doug

July 14th, 2009
9:42 pm

I don’t think anyone is arguing what Flip did for this team last year. Crawford is taller, a much more consistent and explosive scorer. He can play 3 positions and is also a playmaker, each of which will take some of the pressure off JJ so he won’t be so spent. I would be happy to have Flip back, but I do think Crawford is an upgrade. That’s me.

Drewscrilla

July 14th, 2009
9:42 pm

Yeah Get Money get another Big Lets go to the Finals

Wise guy

July 14th, 2009
9:42 pm

I wouldn’t sell the hawks so short. With bringing everyone back we will build on that chemistry that is so important in the playoffs. I think Boston is still the front runner in the East. With Orlando trading Turkoglu, they are really messing with their chemistry, and Vince Carter hasn’t been the most dependable guy down the stretch. Getting Shaq in Cleveland sounds good, but at 37 how much does he have left (assuming he stays healthy). Even so with he and Big Z on the roster they will be a much slower team. Hawks are still young, but getting better all the time and just may shock some people!!

Duke

July 14th, 2009
9:44 pm

Since 1980, only 8 teams have won an NBA Championship. With the exception of the 06′ Heat all of those teams ran deep in basketball tradition. So for all those who want to doubt what the hawks are doing, take notice that they are trying to turn the hawk brand into a “winning” one. Rather than be one of those numerous teams who blow it up for one shot and fall short, they are taking a more reliable approach. For those who want to point at all the “blockbuster” moves, this is not Boston or LA; and we do not have Lebron James or Dwight Howard. We’ve had success playing a team game and that’s what we are continuing to do. Besides, it takes so much to make it all the way. You have to give it everything and still be lucky. Hawks are just getting a taste of winning after decades of being irrelevant. As long as we keep progressing in the right direction, be happy we have a team to be proud of for once, come on!

Ken

July 14th, 2009
9:48 pm

Just read the Slam interview with Teague, good piece. Glad to hear what he’s been up to since draft day. Has been quiet on him with no summer league play.

Not losing sleep over losing Anderson, being that he’s never played in the NBA. Even at 29, I still think it takes time to adjust to our league, so it could have been another two yrs before he got comfortable. The cash and future considerations we got for him, I hope it goes towards getting another big man. The market on those is drying up fast!!

Big Ray

July 14th, 2009
9:51 pm

Okay, so Chill going back to Greece was not a huge surprise. I really feel kinda…apathetic about the whole thing at this point. Moving right along, and not understanding why some people are really sad, and others are really angry. Oh well. Lost asset for the time being, and maybe for good. It is what it is….moving right along…

So Marvin still isn’t signed. Huh…

We gonna add a couple of bigs, or what? I’m bored.

Big Ray

July 14th, 2009
9:53 pm

Ah, so we did manage to turn one overseas asset into something. So who are we going to draft with that 2nd round pick? One of Sergei Gladyr’s teammates mayhaps? Heh heh heh!

Melvin

July 14th, 2009
10:16 pm

Nire,

Yes. Andersen was the Hawks property and they decided that he wasn’t good enough to play in the ATL. Let’s see what he does in a Rocket uniform. Maybe the Rockets have an eye for foreign talent. After all, Scola has played well for them and he was drafted by the Spurs in the 2nd rd of the 2002 draft…

If Andersen turns out to be a real talent then how valuable is that 2nd rnd pick again? It’s not like the Hawks couldn’t use a 6-11 post guy.

ajw

July 14th, 2009
10:17 pm

This is a bit off topic, but didn’t the league refuse us the injury exception when Jason Collier died. And now Houston’s Yao is only injured and they get 5.7 million? Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Ariose

July 14th, 2009
10:19 pm

Kevin Heart is trippin’ on his twitter!!

“Yo I’m staring at the dot on this indian lady’s head, I Swear 2 god its Not centered!Who ever did her dot should be stick beat! Its bad lol”

“Ok I came up w/ a plan, I’m going 2 act lk I tripped & I’m going 2 fall towards her & try & move the dot! This is 4 her own good damn it lol”

“Just touched dn in la bitches lol, I almost had a real soulplane experience 2day, I fell in the toilet frontwards b/c of turbulence lmao”

“I think I just caused a car accident while trying 2 check my twitter replys!!! “Don’t twit and drive people” lmao”

HALARIOUS!!!!

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
10:37 pm

Melvin,

Man, once you get your mind set on something, sometimes there’s no changing it. I just don’t get what you think was bad about this deal. As I said, how many minutes you think he’d have gotten here and where those minutes will have come from? And if he was gonna be the next Scola, don’t you think SOME team would have offered more than a second round pick for him? DraftExpress has never had Andersen in the top 10 overseas prospects, and now he’s 29. Not sure what your beef is.

niremetal

July 14th, 2009
10:39 pm

Oh, and also tell me why you think Andersen would have wanted to come here and be our #4 big man. Because, you know, he obviously has some say in the matter.

Melvin

July 14th, 2009
10:48 pm

Ariose,

I don’t know how you missed this one but check out Josh going between his legs during a game in high school (around the 1:30 mark).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbRMXFar-zw

Childress going back to Greece

July 14th, 2009
10:50 pm

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niremetal

July 14th, 2009
11:15 pm

PS – Not at all saying the trade was affirmatively “good.” Merely saying that from my perspective, this seemed like the reasonable move. The Spurs did almost the exact same thing two summers ago with Scola – they traded him to Houston for a second rounder. RC Buford is probably the best GM in recent NBA history and he basically made the same deal we just made for Andersen – and Buford traded a foreign big man who was younger and WAY more hyped than Andersen is now.

Andersen may turn out to be a good player, and he’s tailor-made for Adelman’s offense. But dude wasn’t gonna come over from Europe to play 10 minutes a game on the Hawks’ bench. I kinda wish there was a way to squeeze more out of him as an asset, but this seems like as reasonable way to “dealing with” Andersen as we could hope for.