Let’s make a deal
The original "King of Deals" (that's Monty Hall for all you mid-80s babies) must be proud of NBA general managers this summer, what with all action in free agency.
HAWKSVILLE - Is your head spinning?
Are you still trying to sort through all the dips, dives, twists and turns of this NBA free agent frenzy (which so far has lived up to that moniker in every sense of the word).
I know the Hawks haven’t gone crazy and done anything wildly splashy, much to the chagrin of some of you. But plenty of other teams seem happy to oblige the fantasy basketball bent in all of us.
Just reading about this four-team deal spearheaded by Dallas and Toronto to bring Shawn Marion to the Mavs and allow the Raptors to snag Hedo Turkoglu (among other benefits) should be enough to satisfy your thirst for pure craziness in the NBA summer.
Monty Hall should be hosting this stuff.
It’s a genius deal by all involved, if you ask me. It’s a just reward for the folks willing to dive into these deep, treacherous sign-and-trade waters and hook the big fish they were looking for. Who knows if it all works out the way the teams involved hope. That they are even willing to swan dive into a deal this complicated makes them winners in my book.
Yeah, I’ve campaigned for prudence around these parts in most instances, but I’m no NBA neo-conservative. I realize that in this day and age, as always, those who take the greatest risks stand to reap the greatest rewards.
That doesn’t mean the Hawks’ recent work to keep both Mike Bibby and Zaza Pachulia in the fold should be dismissed (and there’s nothing bubbling on the Marvin Williams front. Crickets on Flip Murray, too. And I suspect things will be relatively quiet around the Hawks for the next few days, no matter how many times someone tries to stoke the Amare Stoudemire-for-Josh Smith trade rumor that refuses to die). They are doing the business that good teams do in the summer. And that’s a welcome change from some of the puzzling and pulse-free summers of the Hawks’ recent past.
But if your thing is daring and dazzling trades and high-risk acquisitions, this is your time.
Since before draft night we’ve seen the Spurs remake themselves with the addition of Richard Jefferson and now Antonio McDyess. The Magic recharged themselves with Vince Carter. The champion Lakers stepped up the pace by acquiring Ron Artest. The Cavaliers grabbed Shaq. And the Celtics have added Rasheed Wallace. And those are just the major moves by the true title contenders.
Again, time will tell which moves worked and which moves were for not.
But in this day and age, simply making moves is enough to legitimize an operation. While it’s still a bit too early to judge, I’m wondering which move you think will be the best (not that I had to ask any of you to tell us what you think)?
I’ll admit, I can’t help but think the Spurs have shifted the balance of power in their favor, provided Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili return healthy and hungry this season. The Magic’s move might be underrated by some of us non-believers in the VC movement, but Ryan Anderson is legit and will help offset the loss of Turkoglu. Trading Artest for Trevor Ariza (which is what the Lakers accomplished by allowing Ariza to walk and sign with Houston did) improves the Lakers on paper, so perhaps they’ve done what was necessary to retain their championship aura. Then again, snagging Shaq usually means a greater chance at a title for his team, so maybe the Cavs have pushed themselves over the top …
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Daniel
July 9th, 2009
1:24 pm
Sekou- I am with you on Bass. Honestly, even if we are able to get Anderson at 2-3 mil.; we have 5-6 mil. to work with in getting Bass. This is after signing Marvin to a 7mil. type contract. That is more than enough to be able to attract Bass. Now, this idea does not involve dealing with Childress in any way. So, that situation needs to be figured out first.
Chris M
July 9th, 2009
1:30 pm
RA, Thank you for summing up what is the key factor in everything we are talking about the hawks and there moves this summer. And that is if Woodson can manage these pieces. I want even go back on Bradley’s blog because he is drinking too much of the Woodson Kool Aid. And while there is an occasional idiot that agrees with him it was more than I could stomach.
Thanks for making the most sense of the direction of the hawks and why it might not work.
Reggie
July 9th, 2009
1:34 pm
Sekou
What bigmen is a realistic option for the hawks in free agency or via trade?
Ernest
July 9th, 2009
1:38 pm
Ken, your post @ 11:58 definitely shows you are a voice of reason. Chemistry is a key intangible that many fail to consider when assembling a team. I reminded several a while back of the Hawks in the 80’s acquiring Moses Malone and Reggie Theus with hopes of making the NBA finals and realizing there was not enough ‘ball’ for everyone on the team.
We need a 2nd big man off the bench but an probably only pay between 1.5 – 2.5 million for that position. When you consider that player may get token minutes along with several DNP-CDs, it does not make sense to spend all of your MLE on that.
Once we sign Marvin (I do expect that to happen), we’ll have our first 9 locked up (Bibby, JJ, Marvin, JSmith, Horford, Crawford, Zaza, Evan, & Teague). When you consider RandMo is under contract, that leave two open positions, one for that 2nd big man off the bench (perhaps Solo unless RandMo decides to show up) and the 5th guard (maybe Mario). It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
1:42 pm
Does Childress essentially lose his barganing chip after July 15th if he doesn’t resign with Olympiakos? Can he resign with them and then still leave for the NBA? How tough is his contract?
Seems to me, that he needs to get something done in the next week.
Ken
July 9th, 2009
1:44 pm
HEy Sekou,
I know nothing can be done with chillz or Anderson unless they break their Euro contract by July 15th. If that should happen, you think it’d be a possibility to trade Chillz in a S&T to Portland for Channing Frye?
Or to LA for Lamar Odom? With Frye I know Portland did not tender him so do they have nothing to do with it? and Odom would have to agree to a big paycut (on top of choosing us vs. defending champs), bit is it possible?
cp
July 9th, 2009
1:44 pm
These Amare trades are becoming very annoying. jhan you made a great point but it seems like some of these bloggers just don’t get it. Amare does not play a position of need which is center. He had said numerous times he does not want to play center. He is injury prone, he plays no defense what so ever, he wants a max deal, he would only be a one year rental here, and he pouts just as much as Josh Smith. People stop talking about Amare. SS start deleting these outrageous post about trading for Amare or something….Astro good call on Josh Boone. He cant shoot free throws and his offense is average at best but he does rebound well and block shots which is what we need him for. We might be able to get him for cheap………..And I think Hedo makes Orlando a lot better than Vince does. I like Vince but Hedo just fits their system a lot better. Orlando will still be a good team…..Philly was struggling last year with Brand, They played better once he got hurt and they were able to get out and play more uptempo…He does not seem to fit the team very well. He is a half court player but they play better uptempo…
cp
July 9th, 2009
1:45 pm
And I see KevinA is still trying to trade Crawford.
I MUS WRITE- LUV DA KIDZ
July 9th, 2009
1:47 pm
Monty Hall ….. Now thatz whass up -U got to be ol school to remeber that guy, they even wrote a rap about him -wanna hear it here it goes!!!
Brad Nubian: ” Even Monty Hall can have him self a ball if his assets are in order ,Slow Down”
Ward -Come on man, Why the hell would we make those trades???? U cant jus trade the francise……..Chemistry my man…
Soudamire- gawd can we please put this rumor to rest-Exactly how much better are we with him insted of yung Josh -answer: not much
He’s a good talent but he doesnt play D and thats not what I want -I’ll live with Josh til he ges it together…..Let GS or some nonplay off team mortgage their future by signing Amare- the man has rubber band knees they could go at any minute.
Nirmental get outta here man -you aient got no game. U probably all hustle and no skill….LOL Stay off the hard wood and become an MVP in the court room ….I might need u one day fam……
Spud Webb
July 9th, 2009
1:49 pm
Yea, the Cavs and Danny Ferry blew that up, Verajo for THAT much money?? Kurt Rambis has to be thinking he just played at the wrong time, same player as verejo, never made anything like that kind of money!! hahahahhahaha.
Sign Wilcox!!! Trade the rights of Childress, I don’t care to ever see him back in a hawks uniform. Not sure if anybody other than greece wants him though. Sorry, In my opinion Childress isn’t very good, I know that upsets a few on this blog.
Nate ArchiBALL
July 9th, 2009
1:50 pm
Darrell
Amar’e career avg 21 ppg 8.9 rebounds 54.1 fg — Very impressive but remember those numbers were amassed under the Sun’s fastbreak, run and gun, motion offense. I wonder if he was one of the Sun’s complaining to management that too much emphasis was being placed on defense by Terry Porter…..Do you think he could put up the same numbers under Woody’s offensive scheme?
Stephen
July 9th, 2009
1:54 pm
I would love to see the Hawks solidify their frontcourt depth. What are the chances of pursuing Glen Davis or Channing Frye?
Jfreak
July 9th, 2009
1:59 pm
The Spurs and the Mavs have made the most improvements so far. The other teams have added old vets that have a history of being injured or suspended?? Don’t dismiss the Nuggets or the Hawks however. Even no major trade comes down for either team they were both good last year and have so far kept their team in tact, plus the Hawks added a scoring threat. Although hard to imagine Crwarford starting over JJ or Bibby but our bench just got better and it was good to begin with.
The Hawks still need some inside help but I don’t look for them making any major trades. Smith for Amare will never happen I’m sad to say but that doesn’t mean we wont be good and that certainly doesn’t mean that Smith wont improve because I think he will. Marvin Williams is the key player for me. I don’t think the Hawks can afford to lose his ability on both ends for the floor and still keep up with the elites of the East. However, things are getting crowded for the SF and PF positions and I’m not sure Marvin or Smith will like coming off the bench? So look for a sign and trade for Williams and the OUTSIDE possibility of a trade of Smith for someone like Amare who can then start at center which puts Horford at PF and Williams at SF. That would be a difficult team to defend!! Bibby/Rookie pg, JJ/Crawford sg, Williams sf, Horford pf, and Amare center! I smell a championship!
I MUS WRITE- LUV DA KIDZ
July 9th, 2009
2:00 pm
Tribe I feel u dude ….. If we could get Camby and Thornton for Marvin and Chillz rights that would be the move to make. The man torched us last year and Camby could b solid for another 2 years.
Since Chillz doesnt like us any more the trade would basicly be Marvin for AL…… Nuff said
BigCaliDawg
July 9th, 2009
2:01 pm
I love what the Hawks have done. Coming into free agency, we knew we needed to resign ZaZa, or get somebody else. We drafted a PG and re-signed Bibby. After landing Crawford, I think Flip can parlay last year into a payday for himself. I would sooner sign him than A.I. any day, so he shouldn’t be too upset.
Also, we unloaded Speedy and Acie gets a chance to play…….I think we’ve done well.
The icing on the cake would be to resign J-Chills and wish Marvin the best……
Cameron
July 9th, 2009
2:05 pm
Anybody know anything about the other guy we got in the draft?
MannyT
July 9th, 2009
2:11 pm
When you make comparisons about those other teams getting better, you often seem to skip the players they lost.
Orlando lost Hedo, Battie, & Lee.
Detroit lost Wallace & Johnson.
Boston is likely to lose some of their bench.
The Hawks lost Claxton & Law.
I think we win out on the loss side…so maybe the sky won’t hurt anywhere near as much as some claim when it falls on us
BWAF
Khao$
July 9th, 2009
2:15 pm
I wonder will the Hawks will officially announce the signings of Bibby and Zaza? In this town, I get nervous when the ink doesn’t touch the paper.
Sekou Smith
July 9th, 2009
2:19 pm
I don’t know that Camby is on trading block right now. Before the Clippers unloaded ZBo there was a theory that one of their bigs had to go to make room for Blake Griffin. They moved ZBo.
Any pipe-dream deal that could land Lamar Odom would be a crazy victory for the Hawks. That’s why I’d like shoot it down for you right now. Not gonna happen folks. So don’t torture yourselves thinking about it.
I MUS, you know I had to show love for my main man Monty Hall.
A Tribe Called Quest
July 9th, 2009
2:20 pm
“the Hawks have some guys that COULD become superstar talents next year”
Did you seriously just say Horford and Marvin could become superstar talents next year? If they were 1/3 as good as Wade, Kobe, LeBron (superstars) I’d jizz my pants. Don’t use strong words you don’t understand.
Let me explain the BYC principle: You cannot SNT a restricted free agent (such as off a rookie contract) alone for someone who makes TWICE AS MUCH MONEY as the player did the previous year. So stop with the Chandler (overrated, overpaid, injury-prone stiff) and Camby (guy is like 62) talks
Terrell
July 9th, 2009
2:20 pm
BigCaliDawg,
I agree with everything you said except resigning Childress and letting Marvin walk. It should be the other way or at least try to trade Childress. he made it clear that he wants more than a mid level contract, which is what he is, a mid-level player. He’s great off the bench but decent as a starter. If we can keep both then great, but if not, then I want Marvin Williams over Josh Childress
A Tribe Called Quest
July 9th, 2009
2:25 pm
We need TALL 6″9-7″1 BANGERS who are PHYSICAL and will CHALLENGE and FOUL opposing players hard (like ZAZA).
We DON’T need players like Lamar Odom on this team.
Our SOLE objectives should be:
1) improving Horford and Smoove’s post games
2) adding BANGERS like CHRIS WILCOX
3) NO MORE TWEENER FORWARDS WHO WONT GET MINUTES
mountain_jim
July 9th, 2009
2:26 pm
Agree – keep Marvin over JChill all the way
Anakin Joe
July 9th, 2009
2:26 pm
jhan, the talent difference between Crawford and Battie isn’t even close… Crawford wins that contest with one eye closed. But it may come down to something like this, would you rather have a combo of Crawford & Solo or Battie & Flip? And I think that I would take the latter combo (although it is a close call). Like I said the other day, I like that Flip attacked the basket when we would get drunk with jumpers. And I don’t think Crawford diversifies our offense, he just gives us more of the same.
Sony
July 9th, 2009
2:27 pm
Trade Josh Smith to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and draft pick or Boris Diaw. Bell will provide defense and shooting at the two spot beacuse Joe would move to three. Smith gone we can move Holford to his correct and most effective position 4 and ZaZa back to the starting rotation. We made great strides but if we are to close the gap with the big three we must improve are scoring witch means half/court scoring. Bibby-PG; Bell-SG; Johnson-SF; Holford-PF; ZaZa-C. Bench: Crawford, Evans, Murray, Jones, Diaw and Morris.
CajunStorm
July 9th, 2009
2:28 pm
ATL REALLY WANTS THE HAWKS TO WIN!! If that’s the case we should do what the powers of the NBA have done….BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT not FREE AGENCY!! Old Billy Knight didn’t do a terrible job except for 2 moves, skipping C. Paul & D. Williams for Marvin and drafting Shelden. Marvin is a legit 3 for any team and has potential so we need to swallow his No.2 pick status and KEEP HIM!
Old Billy did atone for Shelden by trading for Bibby! All that being said, the HAWKS are very close. STICK with the players we have. Re-sign Marvin and Flip then bring in Wilcox and/or Bass! WOW, now we got a squad. Very Flexible!! Can roll small or big with the ability of Crawford and JJ playing the 1,2, or 3 and by adding rebounding and defense all across the frontline.
All Woody has to do is have everyone buy into their roles. Easier said than done.
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
2:31 pm
Tribe- dude, jizz your pants?!? I hope you can keep that out of your mouth. funny stuff.
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
2:33 pm
Sony– what?!?! Josh Smith for Raja Bell and Boris Diaw?! are you trying to put us back at 2003? Man, you should not be allowed on the message board anymore with that kind of nonsense.
nunna yo bizznezz
July 9th, 2009
2:34 pm
Steve
July 9th, 2009
1:23 pm
said:”As far as Flip goes, I would sign him for 2 years, let he and Bibby hold down PG and let Teague develop. In his 3rd year he would be ready for prime time, and by year 5, one of the best. Thats my take.”
i thought i wrote some crazy statements,but u must have lost yo mind,lol..
(im only kidding about the losing your mind part steve)
but u must be crazy,letting bibbs/flip hold it down while this guy developes?
how is teague gonna develope and sit on the bench with woody as his head coach??
woody can’t even develope a point guard when he has acie law minutes,so how in the heck will he develope someone who will get no minutes?
i love flip..but,we need to keep marvin or package a trade that would let us sign marvin and flip for stoudamire from phoenix..
im against us bringing back zsa zsa..just what does he bring on a consistent level? nothing..we’d be better off letting he and josh smith go 2 phoenix and playing othello hunter at the sf,and bringing in stoudamire..
what would u lose by smith leaving?
weakside defense?othello can do that..
3 point shooting?othello has wider range and can do that too..
rebounding?he has more hops,longer arms,is faster and a better ball handler than josh..
scorer? his inside/outside game is better..have i seen it??YEA
DON’T LET OTHELLO HUNTER OR THOMAS GARDNER GET AWAY..
WE WILL REGRET IT..JUST LIKE WE ARE GONNA REGRET LETTING ACIE GO BY MID-SEASON..
Mitun
July 9th, 2009
2:36 pm
hey Sekou, whats the latest on Flip Murray?
nunna yo bizznezz
July 9th, 2009
2:39 pm
COME ON SONY..JOSH SMITH FOR BELL,DRAFT PICK..
SHUCKS!!
I MAKE SOME OFF THE WALL COMMENTS THAT IF GIVEN THE CHANCE,WILL PROVE IM RIGHT..BUT,THAT IS NOT A GOOD TRADE..
UPGRADING WITH BELL WOULD BE NICE,BUT WE JUST SIGNED BIBBS AND WE HAVE TO DEVELOPE JT..WITH BELL COMING IN,THAT WON’T HAPPEN..AND U KNOW HOW WOODY DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO DEVELOPE A PG ANYWAY…
STEP AWAY FROM THE PIPE BRUH!
Ken
July 9th, 2009
2:43 pm
I wanna know how everyone judges Marvin Williams?
- Do judge him for what he has/hasn’t done?
- Do you compare him to what Chris Paul has done?
- Do you put him up against what a #2 selection should be?
Point i’m trying to make is just accept the guy for who he is. He puts up good numbers and fits in well on both sides of the ball for what this team tries to do. He’s worked hard to make himself better, continues to do so and he never complains. Now if Josh Smith would..?
STRETCH
July 9th, 2009
2:44 pm
Manny T, you forgot Detroit lost Chauncy last year eventhough it was at the start of the season.
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
2:46 pm
Ken- you judge him for what he has done and against other small forwards in the league.
NoleRick
July 9th, 2009
2:49 pm
This has got to be the craziest blog I have read. Guys want to trade Horford? Are you frigging kidding? The guy has only played 2 seasons and played hurt during the playoffs. He has nothing but upside to him.
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
2:49 pm
Cajun Storm- I like your overall view of the Hawks, but the powers in the NBA did not develop their talent through the draft. Only Lebron, Kobe and Dwight were draft day pick ups. the rest of the teams are all free agents and trades for the most part. Yes, Boston did draft Paul Pierce in like 1989, but really they have all gotten there through trades and free agency. Otherwise, why would LA let Ariza go and sign Artest?
Daniel
July 9th, 2009
2:50 pm
NoleRick- that is nothing check out the trade proposed by Sony!
Ken
July 9th, 2009
2:52 pm
That is a good thing right?
nunna yo bizznezz
July 9th, 2009
2:53 pm
O’BRIEN,
i don’t know where u been,but,jj was averaging 40+ all season..
crawford will get 35 and be worn down anyway..and as for teague,woody would put josh at the point before he allowed that poor fellow to get 26 minutes per game,even if bibbs were hurt..
whats your point? an emergency pg would be gardner..even though he is a shooting guard,he is one who needs to get 10 minutes a game to split with joe and jamaal crawford..
honest_abe
July 9th, 2009
2:55 pm
vc is a surefire hof’er? what am i missing? the guy is an unbelievable talent who never had the killer instinct. the guy is kobe without the fire/leadership and all that equals is a selfish team killer. a guy that has all that ability shouldn’t sit five feet outside the 3 pt line hoisting up 3’s all night. get dirty and drive it. every time i see him drive it he either gets fouled or he makes a really nice, acrobatic shot. so what does that tell me when he never gets to the line? no heart.
aj: never looked at from that perspective but your right. crawford is basically just another shooter. at least flip did take the initiative and broke down defenses from time to time when the o would get stagnant… (which was like every 2 minutes but i digress) not so sure on solo though he’s still young and he did make significant improvements this past year or at least when woody found some time for him. i don’t think he’s close to reaching his ceiling.
RA
July 9th, 2009
2:55 pm
I have a very wait and see attitude on Mike Woodson. Now, I realize that it was really hard to stomach what happened in the second round of last year’s playoffs, but please believe me when I say that Jesus himself couldn’t have coached that injury ridden Hawks ballclub to a victory over Cleveland. Still, the Hawks have grown and matured as a ball club. Case and point, they could have been blown out by thirty in each of the last three games they played against Cleveland, they weren’t. They fought. Of course, it was the equivelant of the gym class joke fighting the neighborhood bully with both hands tied behind his back, but they didn’t give up. This team can go places, but they have got to have a coach who’s willing to be flexible and design plays to EVERYONE’s strengths. Woody hasn’t done that to this point. If my guess is right, he’s got about a fourth of a season to prove that he can.
house divided
July 9th, 2009
2:57 pm
All of this Chills and Anderson talk is nothing more than speculation. If they don’t opt out then they do not matter. The only real value is Chills in a trade but any team trying to acquire him would know the hawks would match the contract so the hawks would be unlikely to get that much in return but something is better than nothing I guess. Bass or Wilcox sound great but are the Hawks going to use their midlevel for them? Sekou is that the only way that happens? Plus Bass can get the most money from Dallas and Cuban just keeps spending so I doubt that will happen. However trading Chills, signing Marvin and Wilcox would be huge for depth because the Hawks would actually be deeper. But in order for the depth to matter Woody must play it. For the record Chris Wilcox is an exponential intensity and defensive upgrade over solo which will show improvement. Sekou what do you make out of the Pacers and the race issue brought up in that column yesterday?
Ken
July 9th, 2009
3:00 pm
Hey Sekou,
You hear anything about what is happening with Channing Frye or Brandon Bass or what teams they’re talking too?
We got Bibby back, now Go get ZaZa!!!!
July 9th, 2009
3:04 pm
Meidzo in Decatur
I like this idea but don’t think we could get that by trading Chillz. I say just keep Chillz and bring in a guy like Frye or Wilcox. Unless you are going to make a big splash and trade Horford for Thabeet or Marc Gasol and a protected first round pick…….. and still bring in Wilcox and/or Frye… and as far as getting another guard, there is not need. if one of our guards gets hurt during the season, then pick up someone off of waffers. But unless that happens I wouldn’t worry about that. We need big men we have enough back court players.
I say have J. Crawford, Bibby, Teague, J. Johnson is good depth. We have Horford, Smoove, ZaZa,and Morris, we can bring Marvin back for one year as well as Chillz for one year and at the end of this year decide which one we are going to make an offer too. with these ten I say add Frye, Wilcox or Gooden, Royal Ivy , Gardner, and Mario West or O. Hunter. that should be the hawks off season.
Kevin M
July 9th, 2009
3:04 pm
That Marvin back injury is a concern, and probably does force us to give the QO only this year. We then compete for his services next year in the 2010 FA fracas. Keep Evans here in the meanwhile for insurance.
I like the moves Sund has made so far; other than Crawford denting the salary cap for 3 years, we are in good shape adding more depth to the bench.
Our nucleus is in place; we just need to clean up a couple of roster spots because I don’t see us making a major move until possibly Smoove’s trade clause has expired. In fact, I am not sure if we should be bringing in another PF for him anyway. It still keeps Horford at the 5, and there are very few 5’s worth considering.
In our current scenario, both Bibby and JJ minutes should finally decrease 5% this year and give way to the Crawford and Teague and perhaps Flip. We don’t lose a lot of offense with the 2nd team backcourt. We still need Flip to be a filler for us should someone go down for any length of time. He is very valuable as a pinch hitter.
Please, no more Andersen talk. This has been beat to death. He has a huge learning curve coming and I don’t see anything that tells me otherwise. And he doesn’t like defense……
Sautee
July 9th, 2009
3:07 pm
Good Lord, what is that godawful smell?
Oh it’s that Stoudemire / Smith trade rumor again.
Damn, that thing is gettin’ STINKY!
Throw it in the trash and double bag it. Make sure to put the lid on tight, otherwise the raccoons will have it all over the backyard.
But one way or another, GET IT OUT OF HERE!
We got Bibby back, now Go get ZaZa!!!!
July 9th, 2009
3:09 pm
Depth would look something like this
Bibby, Crawford, Teague
JJ, Crawford, West
Marvin, Chillz, Evens
Smoove, Frye, Wilcox
Horford, ZaZa, Wilcox
We got Bibby and ZaZA back, now Go get Frye and/or Wilcox
July 9th, 2009
3:12 pm
Sund is doing a good job on the down low tip!!!!!
KevinA
July 9th, 2009
3:18 pm
I don’t see the chance for any more action as Sund tries to solve the Chills/Marvin deals. As soon as the Marvin deal happens (whatever that may be) intense negotiations will happen to either sign Chills or work on a sign and trade deal. Look for action (or not) on the 14th. If not we can do the dance next year. I would hate to lose him.
Even if these deals are for one year I hope both of these young studs (M/C) sign up. We need another year to access development. We need another year to find out exactly how much we need JJ and Crawford. One of them or both.
One cloud on the horizen is playing time for Crawford/Bibby/Chills/Flip/Teague. I like the Chills/Flip addition better than Crawford because of Chills defenseive skills, shot selection and Flips offense. The o’l two for one. Not to mention the two for one would be cheaper. Maybe adding Gooden would be a three for one.
No matter who gets signed I don’t see Crawford gettig nearly as many minutes as he is used to. At least at the beginning. Crawford will have to come in being very patient. If he comes in like a mature vet he will be fine. I know others think Crawford will start, If Woody believes what he says about Bibby, Crawford will come off the bench.
CajunStorm
July 9th, 2009
3:19 pm
Fa sho Daniel…good points. I guess I mixed a lil NFL blueprint with the NBA draft. I’m alsolooking at teams like San Antonio, LA, Portland and now ATL with having the base of the team built through the draft. Of course JJ and Bibby came through trades using draft picks. The Hawks are young and need to develop what we have some more.
Bake the Cake…THEN add the icing! The cake looks pretty tasty now lets add the icing and we’ll see what kind of party we’re celebrating.