Childress in play?
(Former) Hawks swingman Josh Childress appears to be in play for the second straight summer as a restricted free agent. He's in Milwaukee today visiting the Bucks.
HAWKSVILLE - From Athens to Milwaukee and back to Atlanta, the name Josh Childress is being tossed around in every direction these days.
Childress is in Milwaukee today visiting the Bucks with his agent, Jim Tanner.
What that means for the Hawks is that they might get a do-over with Childress, a restricted free agent again this summer as he was last summer.
Last summer they lost him as an asset when he chose to sign with Greek power Olympiakos (for $20 million post taxes). What the Hawks didn’t lose was the right of first refusal on Childress if he decided to return to the NBA this summer.
And two of my spies have made it clear that were Childress to receive any sort of “reasonable” NBA offer (the $5.6 million mid-level exception or below), the Hawks would match it before Childress finished signing his name on the offer sheet (the aim, however, is to work out a sign-and-trade deal to appease both sides since Childress has made clear his desire to play elsewhere, per a source).
Still, no player on the free agent market has more intriguing options than Childress. He has until July 15 to decide if he wants to return to the NBA (he’d have to exercise the opt-out clause in his contract with Olympiakos). So he has a window now that allows him to gauge his current value around the NBA while also holding on to the safety net that is his lucrative contract with Olympiakos.
Childress was in Atlanta last Sunday to meet with the Hawks’ brass and made clear that he would do his due diligence in evaluating his NBA options before deciding whether to return to Greece or not. It’s smart business yet again on the part of Childress, who had drawn interest from a number of other teams (Lakers, Clippers, Cavaliers and Spurs are included in that list, according to my league spies) curious to explore the potential of him making an return to the league now as opposed to at the end of his contract with Olympiakos.
“It’s a tough free agent market right now,” a former player now working as an analyst told me by phone Thursday morning. “I can’t imagine [Childress] could do better financially than he would by going back to Greece. But you never know what might go on in free agency, so he’s wise to explore his options.”
MOSTLY QUIET ON THE FREE AGENT FRONT: Things are quiet where the Hawks’ other free agent targets are concerned. Neither Zaza Pachulia nor Marvin Williams is scheduled to visit anywhere as of right now.
Plenty of teams are interested, from what I’m hearing, but no face-to-face meetings have been set up as of yet. Williams is a restricted free agent, so it’s expected that his summer will last a little longer. Pachulia’s summer could heat up rather quickly if one of the big man dominoes on the summer circuit (Rasheed Wallace, Marcin Gortat, etc.) were to commit to a new team.
Several sources inform me that the Hawks have moved into the “common ground” phase of their talks with Mike Bibby’s camp. Nothing has been announced yet, but those sources insist that a deal is closer to getting done than people might think. I’ll be curious to see how things progress through the July 4th weekend and into early next week, when the salary cap numbers come out on the 8th.
Rumors are flying around about what teams are doing. It’s almost too difficult to keep up with it all, since there are so many different outlets reporting (fact and fiction). But my man Adrian Wojnarowski from Yahoo! Sports does as good as job as anyone at keeping his finger on the pulse of what’s happening out there. Check out his latest buzz.
RECESSION? WHAT RECESSION?: While most of us working class folk are struggling to make ends meet during these tough economic time, there is a segment of the population that’s doing just fine. Check out some of the NBA players on Sports Illustrated’s list of top “ballers” in sports.
Steve Francis should be your new hero, since he clocked $20 million last year without playing a single second of basketball. How’d that song from the 90s go, “I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller.” Dang skippy!
NORTH OF THE BORDER: Both Cousin Doug up in Toronto and my man Ken Berger of CBSSPORTS.com are reporting that David Lee has become the object of the Toronto Raptors’ affection now that it appears Hedo Turkoglu could be headed to Portland.
Turkoglu agreeing to a deal could open the floodgates for guys like Williams, especially, considering Charlie Villanueva’s deal with Detroit (5-years, $35-$40 sounds reasonable, though it raises some issues for the Pistons, per my man David Aldridge of TNT) has already set a benchmark for players of that ilk.
Stay tuned folks. There’s no telling where this free agent roller coaster goes next.
Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
642 comments Add your comment
niremetal
July 3rd, 2009
10:46 pm
I love how ESPN has stopped attached authors’ names to their stories about free agent rumors. So now, no one will be able to say “Chad Ford is talking out of his ass” or “Marc Stein is talking out of his ass.”
niremetal
July 3rd, 2009
10:49 pm
But that story really is hilarious. It basically gives you a breakdown of what was apparently 3 days of bull$hit by ESPN.
Ariose
July 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm
Nire, I know lol. Tired of their Staff getting roasted by angry fans i’m sure heheheh…ESPN has no official sources, just bull$h!t.
g-thang
July 3rd, 2009
11:22 pm
KEN,
your last 6 post were eaten because all you were probably talking about was “FIRING WOODY!”
THE MOST INTERESTING HAWKS FAN IN THE WORLD
July 3rd, 2009
11:35 pm
HEDO? HEDON’T!!
Turkoglu is not going to Portland. He is flirting with Toronto, now.
“I don’t always watch basketball, but when I do, I prefer the Atlanta Hawks.”
hawks#1fun
July 3rd, 2009
11:39 pm
Good evening Sekou, watching the hawks the last 5 years i still don’t undersand why M. Willaims was the 2nd pick, J. Chillis is a lot better player. He can handle the ball as a point forard, he can slash to the basket, shoot the 3 and play great defense and also he is class act guy. I think the hawks should sign him and sign and trade M. Williams. I don’t see the raw talent every body been talking about., let me know your what yopu think about this please. Thanks.
Ken Strickland
July 3rd, 2009
11:43 pm
Why is everyone jumping on Sund for not fixing the problems created by Woodson’s incompetence. In 5yrs as Hawks HC Woodson has refused to develop a single Big for his bench, or acquire and/or develop a PG of the future or his bench. It’s not Sund’s fault Woodson is too insecure to trust a rookie PG to run his limited OFF system. Otherwise, we’d have drafted either CPaul, DWilliams or BRoy, or put forth more effort to develop ALaw.
Woodson has had 3yrs to make a productive contributor out of SJones, and again, he refused to make the committment. As a result of his insecurities, shortsightedness and lack of committment, the future of the Hawks is contingent upon resigning a backup center(Zaza) and a past his prime one dimensional PG that plays no D(Bibby).
Phil Jackson and his Miohael Jordan led Bulls HC, dominated the NBA using a 3 headed center combination of Bill Cartwright, Luke Longley and Will Perdue. SJones has had more DNPCD next to his name in one month than all 3 of these players had their entire career together with the Bulls. HC PJackson took the time and put forth the effort to effectively manage these players mins and got excellent contributions from all. Woodson either won’t or can’t pull it off. To further complicate matters, he’s too insecure and driven by his need for control to delegate the responsibility for managing players mins to an assistant.
JJohnson has been selected to the last 2 Allstar gms, yet if he was judged by his 2nd half performances, he wouldn’t get any consideration. There’s no excuse for him annually finishing 1st or 2nd in the NBA in total mins played. The same holds true for Bibby, Horford and Smoove. IT’S NOT A SIGN OF GOOD COACHING WHEN YOU FORCE YOUR STARTERS TO FINISH THE SEASON BATTLING FATIGUE YR AFTER YR.
All head coaches, including Woodson, expects their players to develop and increase their skills over a period of time. Wouldn’t you also expect HC’s to develop and increase his coaching skills over a period of time? Woodson is going into his 6th yr as Hawks HC, and he still hasn’t given the organization much confidence in his development as a HC. His former GM tried to fire him, his current GM only offered him a 2yr extension, and he’s going into the final yr of that extension unsure of his head coaching future with the Hawks. THE TEAM, AND MOST OF IT’S PLAYERS, HAVE SHOWN TREMENDOUS PROGRESS OVER THE LAST 5YRS, BUT HAS WOODSON?
(1) He still has hangups about depending of rookie PG’s
(2) He still refuses to make the committment or put forth the effort to develop young players on his bench, or utilize his bench
(3) He still hasn’t demonstrate an ability to make in game adjustments or employ in gm strategy
(4) He still hasn’t reached the point where he’s ready, willing and/or able to put aside his personal issues and preconceived notions in order to get effectife production out of players(like ALaw or SStaudamire) that he just doesn’t like
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS WE DON’T HAVE A SINGLE PLAYER THAT’S BEEN GROOMED TO REPLACE A SINGLE POTENTIAL FA, AND IT’S NOT GM RICK SUNDS FAULT.
g-thang
July 3rd, 2009
11:46 pm
KEN,
I knew it!!! LOL!!
Hoops
July 3rd, 2009
11:48 pm
Ken,
I take it that you do not like Coach Woodson!
A Tinking Fan
July 3rd, 2009
11:50 pm
BASG can afford him Ken! Who else would come here on the cheap and the ownership in a legal crisis?
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
12:26 am
Here’s the plan that will give the Hawks the best chance to move up in the East next season:
1. Sign Zaza. I would offer him 5.6M. No other team @ this point can match it.
2. Decide which player is best for the Hawks between Millsap and Varejao. If you decide Millsap, then offer him the MLE on July 8 @ 12:00AM. If you decide that Varejao is the best fit, then meet with him ASAP this week and offer him 5.6M. Nobody can match it @ this point unless they go over the L. tax.
3. Re-sign Marvin & Bibby for as low as possible. Sign Solo & West for bench strength.
4. If Chills is interested in coming back to the NBA, sign him and keep him if possible. He may take the QO for one year just so he can be a UFA next summer. If he will not play for the Hawks, S&T for whatever you can get. A #1 draft pick would be great especially from the Bucks!
5. This is your Hawks for 2009-10:
PG-Bibby, Teague
SG-JJ, Crawford, West
SF-Marvin, Mo Evans
PF-Josh, Millsap/Varejao, Solo
C-Horford, Zaza, Morris
I think this is as good as we are going to do @ this point and quiet frankley, I like this lineup!
HawkKingBibby
July 4th, 2009
12:26 am
While what Hedo did to Portland is funny, it could mean they will go hard after Marvin or give Bibbys agent ammo to get his price raised.
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
12:34 am
If the Hawks end up going with the plan I posted @ 12:26, they will have made major depth improvements @ the PG, SG, and PF positions from last season! That’s a really good off-season if you can make improvements in three different positions!!! No other team has made that much improvement in their depth!
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
12:48 am
I wonder if the Hawks could talk the Nets into trading J. Hayes for Mo Evans and R. Morris. I would take that trade for an upgrade @ SF.
Nookah
July 4th, 2009
12:56 am
Folks, we may be forgetting one thing when we are all anxious to see the Hawks get busy in FAgency. Sund is negotiating and being very cautious as we have another tough offseason next year. All the prize FAgents are going to be “open for business” and we have a tough assignment of our own. Do we resign JJ and Horford next year and how will all that fit under the salary cap next year? Is our management team thinking that they want to make a run after one of the big names next year? Perhaps the anticipated FAgency frenzy for 2010 is having a more than significant impact on this offseason.
Ken Strick, you are dead on. Woody really has no clue how to develop players. Even though the buck stops with him, is there no other resource on the coaching staff that can take one of these guys under their wing? That’s sad. I think our biggest disadvantage is our HC. Sad!!!!
Go Hawks!!!!
niremetal
July 4th, 2009
12:59 am
Portland is unlikely to chase Bibby, frankly. They traded Rodriguez because they had one too many PGs. My guess is that they’ll go after Odom. And when that fails, they’ll go after some restricted FA forwards like Kleiza, Lee, and maybe Marvin. And when that fails, Pritchard will try to work out a 22-team trade involving 135 players.
And Ken – I agree with you 100% on your conclusions. I just wanted to quibble with one factual detail – JJ’s second half/first half production. Sekou actually penned some article earlier this year that talked about how JJ averages more in the fourth quarter…he was one of the top 5 in the league in terms of 4th quarter scoring average at the time, as I recall. 82games shows that he finished the year ranked 8th in the league, which isn’t surprising since he was playing on that hurt ankle for the whole second half of the year:
http://www.82games.com/0809/QTR4S11.HTM
(PS – Look at who’s ranked 7th)
I actually noticed the opposite problem – Joe seemed to play somewhat lackadaisically in the first half most games…he seemed to know he had to save his strength for the 4th quarter b/c Woody wouldn’t let him get any rest. It was other guys (usually Bibby) who seemed to provide most of our first-half punch in a lot of games.
I’ve also noticed JJ’s D in the first half is usually weak (you never see him challenge on transition D until the 4th quarter). Again, I think he tried to save his energy. Not saying that’s 100% Woody’s fault, but you can’t blame the guy for rationing his stamina.
Marvin took a lot of the perimeter D pressure off JJ before he got hurt. Hopefully if we re-sign him and keep Crawford, JJ won’t need to conserve energy so much in the future.
But knowing Woody, that’s probably wishful thinking…
Big Ray
July 4th, 2009
1:01 am
Jay,
The offseason hasn’t been going on long enough for you to be right or wrong in your predictions as of yet. So save the Mea Culpa…for now.
Nire,
We can only hope. Kurt Thomas adds a serious element of toughness. And having another draft pick never really hurts.
SB
July 4th, 2009
1:08 am
I think it’s important to to remember because of Chill’s contract status, The Hawks can’t take back much in terms of money. What the Hawks fans should expect is a pick and cash. I would love to see the Hawks sign McDysse, Swift and then resign our own Free- Agents ( Zaza, Marvin and Bibby). I wouldn’t go higher than 7 million for any of them.
Next Years Line-up
PG Bibby/ Teague
SG Johnson/ Crawford/West
SF Williams/ Evens
PF Smith/ McDysse/ Morris
C Horford/ Pachulia/Swift
Woody uses a short bench, but with this team he should at least play 9 men a night.
Ariose
July 4th, 2009
2:36 am
Sekou!!!, Just thought of a great Idea!!! Sign and Trade w/Cleveland Danny Green For Childress!!! Green is a WAY better shooter and we’re not gonna get back much for Chills in a S&T anyway. Do you think the Cavs will bite?
jj
July 4th, 2009
2:48 am
Ken,I agree with your post and I was hoping Sund saw the same thing that Joe D.saw in Detroit.Woody main concern was keeping his job and not making the Hawks better.He drove JJ and the other 7 man rotation in the ground so his record would look good.He didn’t give a hoot if Law ,Solo,are any of the other bench guys develop because Woody had to make the playoffs and do better than the year before.I respect that but he didn’t give a hoot about whats best for The Hawks.When The Hawks decided to keep Woody I really did not care what they did in FA because it will be the SOS again.Sund wakeup,get a coach in here that cares about more than JJ and Bibby.Keep these guys happy and you survive,says Woody.
Ariose
July 4th, 2009
3:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBCriOL9HvU
Bass is a Beast, but he’s ONLY 6′8. That’s NOT what we need. We need length. We need to go after Frye HARD. I heard that the Suns and the Nuggets have already reached out to him…
Ariose
July 4th, 2009
3:19 am
Frye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voGZv5ZEVs0
Ariose
July 4th, 2009
3:37 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwZVIapbQI
Clyde
July 4th, 2009
3:38 am
Ken Strickland For Blogger Of The Year
Even If Sekou didn’t give out blogger awards this year.
If you can’t compete to sign the top free agents you have to be able to develop talent. Woody has proven he can’t and only wants to coach veterans. So with that said lets fire him and bring in a coach that can develop talent.
FIRE WOODY
Clyde
July 4th, 2009
3:40 am
Ken keep posting. The blog has been censored but they can’t stop the Fire Woody movement.
Wabe
July 4th, 2009
6:51 am
If the Hawks line-ups are looking anything like what you guys are projecting based on your input, no hawks fan should honestly be disappointed…
If they can resign Bibby, Marvin, AND Zaza
+ Get another BIG
The Hawks = Much Improved
However, I cant see them resigning Zaza + getting another BIG like Millsap, Verajeo, or McDyess. Honestly, I dont even see them getting a Brandon Bass. I’d be ecstatic if they proved me wrong. But, at the best, if they were to aquire an additional BIG, i think it would be something more low quality.
Wabe
July 4th, 2009
6:59 am
Ken Strickland,
one of the best posts i’ve read in a while.
agree 1000%.
mountain_jim
July 4th, 2009
8:17 am
“THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS WE DON’T HAVE A SINGLE PLAYER THAT’S BEEN GROOMED TO REPLACE A SINGLE POTENTIAL FA”
Ken you nailed it, I agree and I hope Sund has or will figure this out.
jase
July 4th, 2009
8:32 am
the hawks neeed a 7 footer the can block shoot and rebound the ball
glw
July 4th, 2009
9:39 am
Hoops,
I like your idea and sure we would have a championship quality team, but if we resign Bibby, Williams, Zaza and give a mid level deal to Milsap and QO to Childress, that would make our payroll about 75 million. NO way the ASG is gonna pay that much. I have always liked Jarvis Hayes and always thought he was a perfect fit here though, but I dont think JErsey trades him because they realize he is a better player than Mo.
KevinA
July 4th, 2009
9:45 am
I remember when we had other coaches with veteren players that were fully developed. Did we go from 15 wins to 47 with a bunch of kids through non – development?
I have been critical of Woody’s coaching style but as long as he produces wins, he keeps his job.This year will give the coach one more year of maturity for him and the young players.
The #1 fact is – Woody gives us a fun hard working team to watch. Our core of Chills, Josh, Marvin, Al and ZAZA still have upside potential. I love their effort.
JJ is our best player but our wins have increased with each season with him playing at about the same level. Are the nay sayers missing a little development here?
glw
July 4th, 2009
9:52 am
Wabe,
I agree with you if they add a veteran big that comes on the cheap, then its fine, we should still be improved. A lot of bloggers keep hollering we need a lot of bigs, but who knows what the offensive philosophy will be. Assuming Bibby is resigned, the Bibby/Crawford/JJ combo should be fun to watch, and I think Marvin might play some 4, that leaves less minutes anyway for a lot of bigs. A veteran big that can come in occassionally and help with the Shaqs and Howards of the league or when horford or zaza are in foul trouble.
KevinA
July 4th, 2009
9:56 am
If Bibby and Chills are resigned, we can trade Crawford for a big or a pic. Chills is better than Crawford. We won’t need the upgraded version of Flip. Offer Flip the min and hope nobody likes him.
Does anybody know what it would take to drop Crawford.
KevinA
July 4th, 2009
10:00 am
What is the FA list that can stop Howard or Shaq. Thats why they get paid 20 million, they can’t be stopped.
KevinA
July 4th, 2009
10:14 am
Are not Al and ZaZa being developed? The only reason Solo plays is because of injury or fouls. ZaZa can play 30 min. Why dosen’t he? We are developing Al. I don’t understand the arguement.
If you want to trade ZaZa for an upgrade I understand. To bring a big to guard Howard and Shaq seems great on te face of it. If we start Al and ZaZa is the back up, who out there would want come to the Hawks to ride the bench for limited opportunities to play.
Josh is better than Al. Al is one heck of a talent for the money. They are the same age. You want to trade Al for an upgrade? The kind of player your dreaming about starts at about 10 mil. Al might be as good in a couple of years. Do not throw away tomorrow for the dreams of today.
ken
July 4th, 2009
10:15 am
CHANNING FRYE!! CHANNING FRYE!! CHANNING FRYE!!
Legit size, Actual post moves, real backetball skill
He is there for the taking, GET IN THE GAME!!
ken
July 4th, 2009
10:25 am
There is a big difference between “player development” and “natural progression.” I think this is where the drama stems from. This started as a very young team a few years ago and the more time they put it in and opportunities they get, they are going to get better. Now weigh that versus how much of an impact Woodson had on the group and determine for yourself. I think Woodson could be doing more to develop players rather than playing JJ, Bibby, and co. into the ground. The Lakers, Magic, and Celtics also have a core group they like to run with, but still manage to go deep into the bench to get contributions. Solo, Randmo, West, and them, really why have them on the team if you have no intention of using them.
jhan
July 4th, 2009
10:48 am
It seems like a short rotation will get you into the playoffs. A well developed & utilized bench will get you to the finals. What is the ultimate goal?
KevinA
July 4th, 2009
10:52 am
Ken I am sure Woody would be happy if the NBA required 9 players instead of 14-15. Flip played better than Bibby on defense and shot a better shooting percentage. Personally I would have played Flip more of Bibbys minutes rather than give them to West.
With the addition of Crawford/Chills Woody will have better choices when giving JJ/Marvin a break.
I will also say Woody should have played Solo more when Josh/Al or ZaZa were having off days.
If our team reaches the Laker, Majgc, Celtic level there will be alot more big leads and blow outs which gives the bench more opportunities.
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
10:54 am
glw,
You may be right about the salaries, but this is how I had it figured:
1. Sign Bibby for 5.6M
2. Marvin’s QO is $7,355,165
3. Sign Millsaps or Varejao for 5.6M
4. Sign Zaza for 5.6M
5. Sign Solo for 1M(if this makes us go into L. tax then don’t sign him)
If my totals are correct(with Solo), that $69,954,748. Without Solo-$68,954,748.
My feeling is that if you want to compete for the finals, you are going to have to spend up to the L. tax (not over) to get those type of players!!!
Big Ray
July 4th, 2009
10:55 am
KevinA,
Not to argue, but I’d say there is a lot of natural development by the players themselves. Woody doesn’t work with them in the offseason. Woody didn’t give Josh any post moves. He didn’t give Marvin a 3 point shot. He didn’t make the trade for Bibby. And he didn’t bring any of these players to this team. What he does is coach them. They bring the excitement.
Let’s be honest, if this team played the way he wanted them to all the time, there’d be no such thing as the Highlight Factory. Whether or not his style would translate to more wins is another question altogether. Personally, I think we’d win strictly playing Woody’s style as long as the other team didn’t score more than 80 points. Because that’s about what we’d score doing it his way. I’ll give the man credit for getting these guys to play enough defense, rebound enough, and play hard. I’ll also give him credit for his chaotic offense that sometimes confuses opponents. But I’ll also give him credit for the inconsistency.
Now I’m sure his entourage will jump in any minute now and try to pick my opinion apart, but that’s the magic of opinions. Everybody has one, and they’re all up for debate. What’s sauce for one goose is sauce for another…
Clyde,
Sorry, but the Fire Woody movement is about a two man movement right now. The rest of us are tired of driving…no pushing that wagon. Hell, even the Save Woody movement has technical problems. Sam won’t let Joe drive because he’s a poser, and Joe doesn’t want to ride in the back with the rest of the straw..I mean hay…oh well, $hit happens.
Happy 4th…..
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
11:02 am
glw,
Now this is a thought along the lines of salary:
If we sign Chills for the QO, then we could trade Marvin and probably bring back less salary. I think Chills would be happy here if he was given a real opportunity to start.
Which perimeter is better?
A. Bibby, Teague, JJ, Crawford, Chills, Evans or
B. Bibby, Teague, JJ, Crawford, Marvin, Evans
I like A better if we can sign a second big (besides Zaza) and not have to use Marvin @ PF any. If not, then I would have to go with B.
Big Ray
July 4th, 2009
11:04 am
Jhan,
A short, talented rotation without significant injuries gets you to the playoffs. Add a key injury (or three) in the playoffs, and suddenly that deep bench looks like an appealing idea. It’s why the Celtics had a better chance in the second round than most teams, despite missing their lynchpin in KG. Unfortunately for them, they didn’t have as deep a bench (talent-wise) as they did the previous year. I’m not so sure a bench with Cassell, Posey, and Brown wouldn’t have gotten them past the Magic. It certainly wouldn’t have hurt.
Well, if Bibby (or Flip) and Zaza are re-signed, along with Solo and perhaps another big….Woody can’t use the same excuses for going with a short rotation. He’ll have more useable vets than he’s ever had, and should be able to play 9 or 10 deep, as he said he wanted to last year. His complaint was that the bench wasn’t good enough. It will be THIS year, so I’d like to see him actually keep his word this time. Of course, Sund has to make sure he has a roster that he can play that deep with, or he leaves Woody with the same old excuses. Get it done, Sund.
KevinA,
You really think Chills is better than Crawford? Really??
ken,
Well said on your 10:25 a.m. post. I agree completely.
doc
July 4th, 2009
11:04 am
EXACTLY what does “awaiting moderation” mean?
Big Ray
July 4th, 2009
11:05 am
“There is a big difference between “player development” and “natural progression.” I think this is where the drama stems from. This started as a very young team a few years ago and the more time they put it in and opportunities they get, they are going to get better. Now weigh that versus how much of an impact Woodson had on the group and determine for yourself. I think Woodson could be doing more to develop players rather than playing JJ, Bibby, and co. into the ground. The Lakers, Magic, and Celtics also have a core group they like to run with, but still manage to go deep into the bench to get contributions. Solo, Randmo, West, and them, really why have them on the team if you have no intention of using them.”
Excellent post.
doc
July 4th, 2009
11:05 am
i been moderating since 9 friggin am! seems like i am watching instead of moderating.
Big Ray
July 4th, 2009
11:11 am
Hope that explanation is somewhat sufficient, Doc.
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
11:20 am
We will know by July 15 if we are going to be able to keep Chills or not. Marvin’s deal will take much longer. IF we keep Chills, why not S&T Marvin to Cleveland for Danny Green and JJ Hickson? Cleveland would go for that because the word is that they want to move LeBron to PF. This way the Hawks get Hickson to back up Josh and Green to back up Chills.
I know, that’s alot of IF’s!!!
niremetal
July 4th, 2009
11:29 am
Hoops,
1) We ain’t keeping Chills
2) Even if we did, Marvin’s BYC status makes it virtually impossible to S&T him except in a blockbuster deal where the salaries involved exceed $15M
3) I’d rather have Marvin than Chills
Hoops
July 4th, 2009
11:31 am
glw,
My salary calculations need to be slightly adjusted. I was showing Teague to make 2M, but he is scheduled to only make $997,100. So we can subtract 1M from my figures with or without Solo. That’s even better.