Trade season in full swing
The only place Josh Smith will have to worry about guarding Jamal Crawford next season is in practice, now that it appears Crawford is headed for the Hawks via trade.
HAWKSVILLE - One by one the texts and phone calls started coming in late Wednesday afternoon.
Hawks players wanted to know if what they were hearing was true. So did other team’s players, scouts, coaches and an assortment of other people.
“Are we really going to get Jamal Crawford?” one player asked via text. “Is this serious?”
“You really think this is going to happen?” another asked. “Man, he gets buckets. Major buckets. We could be explosive with him and all our other cats coming back.”
“This is a crucial move for them,” a Western Conference scout told me, “because it was obvious in the playoffs that they needed another scorer with some size that could create a shot.”
Not a single player, coach or executive from anywhere that I communicated with Wednesday objected to the move for the Hawks. Not one person.
Truth be told, they were going crazy about it, with one guy calling is a “master stroke” since the Hawks moved two for one without sacrificing draft picks now or in the future.
For years folks have complained around here about the Hawks not being active enough during trade season (the time before the draft through the start of training camp when all the league’s best wheeling and dealing is done). Well, you’ve got your wish.
And you can dissect it every which way now that it appears that Crawford will join the Hawks in exchange for Acie Law IV and Speedy Claxton being sent to Golden State (the only detail left is for Crawford to sign an agreement saying he won’t exercise the opt-out clause in his contract).
Of course, the Hawks aren’t the only team working the trade season to their advantage. Deals are to be had for teams looking to add and subtract players and salaries in an effort to retool for the coming season. LeBron James and Shaq appear to be headed for a whirlwind season in Cleveland. Mike Miller and Randy Foye will bolster the playing rotation for Flip Saunders in Washington after the Wizards pawned off a lottery pick and some spare parts for real players in a deal with Minnesota. And Richard Jefferson’s arrival from Milwaukee (for scraps) breathes new life into a San Antonio team that seemed headed for an eternal ice bath in the playoffs.
There will surely be more craziness to come, perhaps even during tonight’s draft. But make no mistake about it, the teams moving and shaking now are the ones positioning themselves for the future (immediately for teams like the Hawks, Spurs, Wizards and Cavaliers and not-so-immediately for the Timberwolves and Warriors).
I’m an advocate of bold moves. I’m a fan of bold moves that produce immediate results. And for a franchise that for the longest time was immune to them, the Hawks have a decent track record on their most recent deals of that nature.
In the summer of 2005 they went after Joe Johnson, then a restricted free agent in Phoenix, and immediately changed their fortunes (it didn’t happen overnight but going from 13 wins to 47 in four years started with that bold stroke). 1-for-1.
They swung for the warning track with Claxton the following summer, hoping like crazy that he could solve their point guard quagmire and deliver them to playoff contention faster than a rookie or youngster only to have that plan blow up in their face after Claxton’s knee’s gave out. 1-for-2.
They gambled on Mike Bibby being able to get them over the proverbial hump and into the playoffs at the trade deadline two years ago and cashed in with back-to-back trips to the playoffs, including home court advantage this season en route to a trip to the Eastern Conference semifinals. 2-for-3.
The Hawks' point guard of the future could be Wake Forest star Jeff Teague.
The played roulette last summer with their own free agents, Josh Smith and Josh Childress, allowing the market to set the price on what they should be paid and lost one (Childress to Greece) and hung on to the other one (Smith, who signed an offer sheet from Memphis that the Hawks matched before the ink dried), and then followed that up by adding veterans Flip Murray and Mo Evans to help fill the void. Murray finished in the same spot in the Sixth-Man voting that Childress did the year before and Evans stabilize things late in the year when Marvin Williams went down with a severe back injury for the final month and half of the regular season. 3-for-4.
This deal for Crawford makes sense for so many reasons, as the digital tag-team duo of Mark Bradley and Jeff Schultz have already pointed out in separate takes on this latest roll of the red, white and blue dice.
Crawford certainly sounds like he’s pleased with the move, especially when you consider the situation he’s coming from in Golden State. And just like when the Hawks acquired Bibby and the skeptics wondered how he’d fit, things worked out because Bibby was a seasoned pro that knew what was expected of him when he came here and he delivered. I suspect Crawford’s situation will be similar in that he’ll come here realizing that this is his chance to shut up his doubters and prove that he can be a part of a winning operation.
Much like Bibby was when he arrived, Crawford might be a short term solution to a problem in need of a long-term answer. There’s no doubt the Hawks are still in need of their “point guard of the future.” And that’s where the true beauty of this deal for Crawford has been a bit overlooked. The Hawks didn’t have to include the 19th pick in the draft to get the backcourt insurance needed if unrestricted free agents Bibby and Murray aren’t re-signed this summer (and Crawford’s arrival doesn’t necessarily signal the departure of either guy. In fact, the Hawks would be best suited to find a way to keep them all in the fold if they want to solidify their ranks).
They still have that draft chip to snag the guy they want and need. They have studied all their point guard options up close and personal the past two months. They’ve seen Jeff Teague, Ty Lawson, Toney Douglas and Eric Maynor in person, had them all in for workouts at Philips Arena and had a chance to ponder what each one would look like alongside Johnson, Smith, Al Horford and the rest of the gang.
Whatever happens, they won’t go into next week’s open of free agency from a position of weakness where Bibby and Murray are concerned. They’ll operate from a position of strength with a chance to nail down the present and future at the position all at once.
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Reggie
June 26th, 2009
12:15 am
Niremetal: haha.
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:17 am
Hawks international scout Mark Crow, who scouted Gladyr in Europe, and he had this to say:
“Gladyr is a 6′5″, 19-year old kid with tremendous shooting ability. I saw him hit 11 3’s in a game against Lithuania for the Ukranian National Team last year. He’s got great form, and he’s a very good athlete as well.”
Reggie
June 26th, 2009
12:18 am
kevinA: We have Tegue, Flip, Bibby, and Crawford. You want us to drop 3 of them. You make no sense. Explain so you don’t sound stupid please.
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:22 am
NIRE, YOU WILL DEFENETLY EAT THOSE WORDS LOL! WOW…..MOST DEFENETLY. HE WILL PROBABLY BE 2ND OR 3RD OPTION, BUT CUT? HE MIGHT BE THE STARTER BY THE END OF THE SEASON….
I LIKE WHAT THE HAWKS DID THOUGH. I OVERREACTED….I’LL ADMIT IT. GOOD DRAFT BY US OVERALL. IS BLADDER COMING OVER THIS YEAR????? HE WAS IN NEW YORK…..
O'Brien
June 26th, 2009
12:25 am
I look forward to free agency. Hopefully we can resign ZaZa and sign a PF who does not need the ball to contribute.
Let Bibby and Flip go, and sign Jack or Sessions.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
12:29 am
The 2nd half of the 2nd round and undrafted free agents are basically interchangeable. Patty Mills will probably be available as a free agent a year from now. Players like Aminu and Siler are available as free agents, and it’s not like they would provide any more quality depth than Solo or Randolph Morris currently do. I agree that the Hawks have needs that must be addressed, but I’m in agreement with niremetal here — the 2nd round is such a crapshoot that criticizing any GM for their picks here is pointless.
Teague’s the guy we should be wasting our words talking about. I’m not thrilled with the pick — Maynor would have been a better fit in my opinion — but I’m glad they didn’t get Mullens.
Oh yeah, and as for my guy DeJuan Blair, watch him be the steal of the 2nd round playing the minutes previously played by Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas. That guy is going to be good.
cp
June 26th, 2009
12:30 am
I like Teague. He is nothing like Law. Teague is more explosive, can shoot the ball, and is probably a better penetrator. The guy who most favors Law is Maynor… I like Law but I think he will get the same treatment Don Nelson gave Marcus Williams last year. Williams game is very similar to Law’s. With the addition of Curry and they might bring CJ Watson back so I don’t see many minutes at all for Law..
I wish we would have traded up in the second to get a guy like Green or Young but its nothing you can do about it.
JSS
June 26th, 2009
12:31 am
Naj, I like you about most things, but I am telling you this kid will… I just hope Miami doesn’t have a deal with him already….
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
12:32 am
NBADraft.net scouting report on Sergei Gladyr, just uploaded now.
It’s nice to see that he bucks the standard Euro stereotype by already having good strength and defensive skills. I would still be surprised if this guy is a Hawk any time in the next couple of years.
JSS
June 26th, 2009
12:34 am
Blair was a steal for team that needed a tough guy
Sekou Smith
June 26th, 2009
12:41 am
I was kidding about Gladyr earlier folks. I was just trying to pack up and get the heck out of the conference room/holding cell the Hawks had the media in for the draft. Dude might turn out to be a fine player some day. If I’m still covering the NBA when it happens, that’ll be even better.
But there were some true steals in the second round. And most several teams pounced on them. Time will tell.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
12:41 am
“Woodson loves Bibby and wants him to end his career here. If we bring Bibby back, there’s no way Flip is back, right? Teague is “the point guard of the future” so he better be getting minutes and it doesn’t seem he’s too injury prone.”
In my eyes Flip was a goner the moment the Crawford deal was approved. Crawford gives the Hawks the same things Flip does, but better.
Crawford replaces Flip just fine. Bibby’s the guy he doesn’t replace. If the Hawks can find a way to get Bibby and Joe in the backcourt with Flip and Jamal coming off the bench, I think they are 50 game winners easily next season. But replacing Bibby with a Crawford-Teague tag team would be a step back.
One thing that could work is bringing Bibby back, trading Marvin for big man depth and a future pick, and going small more often by moving Joe to small forward and playing Crawford at SG for stretches at a time, particularly when Teague comes in off the bench and pushes the tempo.
I do think the Hawks can keep Bibby despite having Teague and Crawford in the backcourt now. But I doubt they can keep Marvin as well. Either Bibby or Marvin is probably gone. In the short term, Bibby is the more valuable Hawk.
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:41 am
POOP, NO WAY. TEAUGE ATLETICALLY IS BETTER THAN MAYNOR…..I’M NOT SURE IF MAYNOR WILL SUCCEED ON THIS LEVEL…..
niremetal
June 26th, 2009
12:42 am
Ariose,
I will bet you a Gatorade that Mills won’t see the floor for the Blazers for more than 30 games this year unless Blake and/or Bayless get injured. I know he’s your boy, but there’s usually a reason that 51 guys are picked ahead of someone. And the idea that he’ll be starting for Portland by the end of the year? Dude, I’ll put down $25 and give you 25-1 odds on that. Get in touch with Ray – he has my email address
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:43 am
GOTTA SIGN BRANDON BASS….
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:44 am
I DO THE GATORAIDE ONE LOL, BUT MILLS IS A STUD…..
kirkinga
June 26th, 2009
12:45 am
I must say that I find the idea that the 2nd Round is basically a “Just-For-Fun” exercise to be unconvincing. I think if we look at the 1st Rounders of recent vintage, we’ll find a higher than expected percentage of failures there as well.
The NBA is a business and as with any business when an opportunity arises to improve your product/service you don’t fritter it away. The Hawks are not the Lakers, they should always be looking to get better. This last pick is one a club makes when it is satisfied with it’s roster right now and don’t see any need, or opportunity for a player to contribute.
The Hawks are no such team and as such don’t get a pass for a horrible, illogical pick no matter when it’s made.
Go Hawks!!
niremetal
June 26th, 2009
12:46 am
Najeh,
One thing that could work is bringing Bibby back, trading Marvin for big man depth and a future pick, and going small more often by moving Joe to small forward and playing Crawford at SG for stretches at a time, particularly when Teague comes in off the bench and pushes the tempo.
Who will play perimeter defense?
Sorry, but the signing of Crawford made it essential that we bring back Marvin, Chills, or both. Otherwise, we’ll need to get used to the sight of the opposing backcourt dropping 50 points on us and Josh and Al picking up 2 fouls in the first quarter because they’ll have to play help defense on almost every single play.
bigdave
June 26th, 2009
12:47 am
just looks like we got the same kind of pg we already have… just explosive, cheaper, younger, and without the experience… looks like a shoot first guard who plays off the ball at times… either we dont want the “traditional” pg or he has a ways to go…
few goodies from the youngster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybt537Q4ZOo
does have that Bibby like release, even holds it up there like Bibby likes to do…
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:48 am
HE’S BETTER THAN SERGIO RODREGUEZ RIGHT NOW, AND MILLS WAS IN THE DOGHOUSE ALL LAST SEASON WITH SERGIO STRUGGLING…….HE’LL PLAY WAY MORE THAN 30 GAMES….
Wabe
June 26th, 2009
12:48 am
I wasn’t pulling much for Mills, but would’ve rather had him over whatever his name is. Personally, Mills seems like a better fit for Portland down the road. Your saying he slid to the 50’s, but so did guys like Jodie Meeks slid down into the 40’s, and should easily make the roster.
Personally, I thought the Hawks could’ve put more use to this pick instead taking yet another guy who we wont see for 3 years, who knows, might never see him. Suton is easily better than some of the guys that are riding the end of the bench at the moment…
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:49 am
I MEAN BAYLESS WAS IN THE DOGHOUSE LOL….
bigdave
June 26th, 2009
12:50 am
by the way….
with the current players in the fold… why wont we RUN…RUN… RUN!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
12:50 am
I agree with Jay Bilas’ assessment of Mills. Solid backup PG potential in the NBA, probably should have been drafted higher, but probably ain’t a starting-quality NBA PG. Niremetal’s probably right that he won’t play much for the Blazers, but they already have one guy who is very steady (Blake) and one guy who is an athletic freak (Bayless), not to mention another guy in Sergio Rodriguez who has some skills himself. It’s a tough situation for him as far as winning playing time. Maybe he gets stashed in the D-League, lights it up, and gets traded to a team that can give him some minutes?
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
12:54 am
“I must say that I find the idea that the 2nd Round is basically a “Just-For-Fun” exercise to be unconvincing. I think if we look at the 1st Rounders of recent vintage, we’ll find a higher than expected percentage of failures there as well.”
True, but the big difference is that 1st rounders instantly get long-term guaranteed contracts. You are investing in your first round pick for multiple years. 2nd rounders, if they even manage to make the team, get two-year near-minimum contracts, which means there just isn’t as much incentive for a team to develop them. And especially when you’re picking near the end of the 2nd round, the difference between the guy you pick and the guys you invite into summer league as undrafted free agents is usually pretty slim.
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:54 am
HOOPSWORLD…MORE INFO ON CRAWFORD/OUR BACKOURT
http://www.hoopsworld.com/TheWireStory.asp?id=19232
A Tribe Called Quest
June 26th, 2009
12:55 am
Bringing Crawford and Flip off the bench will be a disaster. Both guys shoot nonstop, and I know from body language that players got tired of Flip hogging the ball at ends of quarters. I’d love to try it out, though. We need to drop JJ’s minutes–that’s foremost….Why not just trade our 2nd rder for JJ Redick or someone?
I’ll be interested to see where Hedo is headed. The Magic traded nothing for a huge salary piece, so they should be way over the cap. I can’t believe teams are allowed to trade trash for superstars (I still consider Vince a superstar). Rafer + Courtney Lee? The Nets already have a freaking PG…They think they’ll have cap space for 2010, but no one wants to play for a team with no one on it (besides Joe in 2005). The Nets’ roster looks anemic now…Devin Harris, Brook….
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:57 am
POOP, SERGIO GOT TRADED TONIGHT LOL…..ALL THEY HAVE IS BLAKE AND BAYLESS
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
12:58 am
LIKE I SAID, BAYLESS WAS IN COACH NATE MCMILLANS DOGHOUSE LAST SEASON. HYPER, BUT NOT A GOOD SHOOTER OR PLAYMAKER. IF HE’S NOT SHARP, MILLS WILL PASS HIM ON THE DEPTH CHARTS QUICKLY.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
1:03 am
“Sorry, but the signing of Crawford made it essential that we bring back Marvin, Chills, or both. ”
Maybe. I agree with your point about perimeter defense. My small lineup idea was meant to be a change of pace thing, to get the backup guards playing time while changing up the tempo — not a full time thing. But it will presumably cost at least $6-$7 million per year to bring back Marvin long-term, and if we are solely bringing him back for the purpose of playing perimeter defense… that makes about as much sense as paying your backup shooting guard $10 million per year. At some point the DASG is going to have a budget restriction, and if it means that the Hawks have to decide between Bibby and Marvin, they are probably better off at least in the short term keeping Bibby and trading Marvin.
Put it this way — you can find a perimeter defensive specialist easier than you can find a point guard with the poise and intangibles of Bibby. Trevor Ariza is a free agent.
Of course, if they can re-sign Bibby while matching whatever Marvin gets offered… that’s the ideal scenario. But do any of us really believe that’s going to happen?
Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2009
1:06 am
Damn, I totally missed the part about Sergio Rodriguez getting traded. Too many trades, man…
kirkinga
June 26th, 2009
1:24 am
True Najeh, but that doesn’t mean that you don’t reach for a player who can help your team right now. If the team’s attitude is that a guy in the 2nd Round isn’t likely to help then what’s the harm in “reaching” for a guy that could at least help you just in case he’s that rare exception?
bigdave, it’s going to be hard to run if you are getting outrebounded almost every night. It will also be tough to run if your point guard is as likely to turnover the ball as make an assist. Right now I don’t see the Hawks running as much as we all would like to see.
Go Hawks!!
niremetal
June 26th, 2009
1:54 am
what’s the harm in “reaching” for a guy that could at least help you just in case he’s that rare exception?
The harm is simple – with an American player picked in the second round, you either have to sign him during training camp or else cut him and make him a free agent. With international prospects, you get to hold onto their rights forever. Since most second round picks never crack an NBA rotation, doesn’t it make MUCH more sense to take an international player who you can take a “wait-and-see” approach with rather than using it on a second round pick who you have to decide on within 3 months? ESPECIALLY since you can probably get pretty much equally talented players from the “undrafted free agent” crowd?
Ariose
June 26th, 2009
2:10 am
NIRE, YOU WIN.
LOL, BUT SERIOUSLY, I SEE YOUR POINT.
Ed
June 26th, 2009
2:31 am
Good luck on your promotion Ray!
The steal of the draft is without a doubt DeJuan Blair. The Spurs had to be giddy to see him still there and what a perfect fit.
In the same way that Orlando would be the favorite to make it back to the finals if they re-sign Hedo in addition to the Carter pickup, the Hawks re-signing Bibby would be a significant step forward. Not resigning their respectived FA;s would be the equivalent to treading water. Unfortunately because of finances both teams most likely will tread water.
terrell barron
June 26th, 2009
4:59 am
Draftexpress take on Teague:
Best case: better shooting Monte Ellis
Worst case: Louis Williams/Aaron Brooks
I can live with that at #19.
Mac-Town
June 26th, 2009
5:29 am
I dont understand why some people love Bibby so much at this point in his career. It’s not like he’s a terrific passes, he’s an absolute NO SHOW on defense, and he cant get to the basket.
All he is in my eyes is a streaky shooter, which one can find anywhere.
Any PROVEN PG we can get to start ahead of teague that can actually get to the rim, play atleast decent D with atleast a decent jumper …..would be an upgrade.
Ken Strickland
June 26th, 2009
7:49 am
With Crawford in the fold, I don’t see the need to spend what it would take to resign Flip, which would viturally duplicate what we now have in Crawford. I seriously doubt if we will resign Chills because Sund doesn’t seem to value his talents. None of us can be sure if Chills wants to return to the Hawks knowing Sund’s opinion of him and also knowing Woodson would never ever start him.
If we don’t resign Flip, and having traded Speedy and Acie, it’s almost a given Bibby will be resigned. Woodson passed on drafting PG’s in the past that were rated much higher than Teague, and I doubt if he’s changed his mind about not wanting a starting rookie PG. The key FA signing for the Hawkd will be Zaza. He’s not over the hill and has provided toughness, rebounding and energy off the bench. We can’t replace his production by signing another over the hill FA like former Hawk LWright.
Let’s face it, Woodson isn’t going to consistently utilize more than one BIG in his limited rotation anyway, so resigning a known comodity like Zaza makes sense. If we don’t resign Flip, Teague will have to get good mins.
POOP-I don’t see the wisdom in trading Marvin and moving JJ to SF. JJ has already suffered letdowns the last half of the last few seasons as a result of being overused. The added responsibility of rebounding and defending bigger and stronger players will only add to those issues. I see our starting lineup coming back intact, and hopefully Zaza as well. If Zaza’s resigned, that leaves us with a bench comprised of MEvans, RMorris, JCrawford, Teague and 2 open spots, with Zaza, Crawford and Taegue getting the bulk of the mins.
Cherokee STH
June 26th, 2009
7:57 am
Let me get this straight…we took the 10th best point guard in a bad draft and are EXCITED about it? You had the chance to take the second or third best big guy in BJ Mullens and use Jamaal Crawford for now and look to the cutting room floor for future buildable material. Bad move ASG
darrell starks
June 26th, 2009
8:15 am
We have to let bibby go now he will want 6mill or more and thats to much money for a guy thats career on the down slope lets use that money to resign zaza, flip, solo, and some how bring back chill.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
June 26th, 2009
8:27 am
We dont need a point guard let crawford starte at the point and let flip back him up it only make sense and were do people get this idea that jamal cant play defense he can at the point but when you move him to big guard he is playing out of position period keep him at the point.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
June 26th, 2009
8:33 am
2009 ATLANTA HAWKS
STARTE JAMAL, JOE, MARVIN, JOSH, HORFORD.
BENCH FLIP, MOE, CHILL OR HAKIM WARRRICK, CHARLIE V OR SOLO, ZAZA.
RESERVE JEFF TEAGUE, SOLO.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
Mitch
June 26th, 2009
8:41 am
Imagine this: based on Sund’s comment that “I love shooters”…even had Ty Lawson been there at #19, Teague would have still been the pick. Sund said he issued the card with the pick right away following the #18 pick, which may be another indication that Teague was the choice all along.
Having watched Teague play numerous times last year, I was tremendously impressed with his accuracy and range. His floor game is solid, as he does a good job setting up his teammates, and his cross-over is quick and smooth, he keeps his legs strong in the lane and can finish over the rim.
What also impressed me is his quiet confidence. I wouldn’t quite call it a swagger, but this kid plays with his head up and maintain his focus and competitive desire. He can get a little edgy when things aren’t going well…but I like that in a player…it shows heart, IMO.
Teague will be a sharpshooter in the league, especially now working with Mark Price, JJ, Craw, Marvin, etc. What Woody can’t do with this kid is take away his quiet confidence. It’s about time that Woody coach up a rookie guard and keep this kid’s head strong. Teague avowed that he was going to emerge as the best guard in this draft. And guess what? If Woody feeds into this type of confidence rather than tearing it down, Teague may well be right.
As for Sergei…I hope the Hawks bring him in now, not two years from now. Playing in the Ukraine is not going to help this kid prepare for playing in the NBA. The Hawks could use him this year as a situational shooter, and start to groom the other parts of his game. Plus, get him with Mark Price asap.
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 26th, 2009
8:43 am
no reason to think i’ll be right on this, but if that golden state/phoenix deal does through in a couple of weeks i could see them trying to get the rights to josh childress. childress would be great in that wide-open offense and he’s a stanford guy so it would be a homecoming.
Daniel
June 26th, 2009
8:49 am
I like the pick, given what was on the board.
We need to resign Bibby to a two year/option year contract. We also need to resign Za, with the Cavs getting Shaq that just became easier. We HAVE to resign Marvin (even if it is sign and trade). Flip is expendable, but may be very cheap now. I still think we need a quality forward off the bench, Solo is NOT the answer. A Brandon Bass or Charlie V. would be excellent additions. If the Hawks return their starting 5 with a bench of Crawford, Teague, Za, Mo, Bass/Charlie V., maybe Flip(on the cheap). We will be a VERY deep and versatile team.
ILL-logical
June 26th, 2009
9:13 am
Bibby’s value is more to Woodson and his “system” than anything else. He represents the voice that the various internal factions on the team listen to and respect because of his longivity and accomplishments.And he doesn’t throw the ball away.
Woodson lost the respect of this team a year ago but because of their talent and youth they continue to win. But going forward, once Woodson is gone Bibby’s value drops big time.
Samuel
June 26th, 2009
9:15 am
Not crazy about our draft, especially our 2nd round pick. Why not go with a homegrown guy. Why reach thousands of miles to pick up a scrubb. My boy, Courtney Fells, didn’t get drafted but hopefully he make someone’s summer league team and stick somewhere.
GS got the best deal with Chicago second IMO. Minnesota is trippin.
Thanks for all the congrats to my Baby Girl. She really worked hard. She got a chance to meet Courtney Kupets, who is a very down to Earth young lady.
Ray, sorry I couldn’t hook up my man but i’m comming back down here to do some fishing. I’ll try to look you up. Tybee is nice!! My first time here.
On the Crawford trade. I actually would prefer Bibby to Crawford but if we know we will be losing Bibby then Crawford is pretty much the same guy. Hopefully, he can run the team like Bibby. If we can keep both, then good. I’ll take Crawford and Bibby over Crawford and Flip.
We still need to make a move to get a vet center who can score.
Realistically, we would do well to hold our 4th spot. I can’t see us moving past the “Big 3″ in the East. That’s ok by me. A 4th spot dynasty is better than a seller dynasty.
Anakin Joe
June 26th, 2009
9:51 am
If I think of Teague as our “PG of the Future”, I get mad. But when I think of him as our “Flip of the Future” I feel better about the pick. If Sund goes out and grabs Sessions or Jack and THEY become our PG of now/future, then this plan would make much more sense. Teague would have 1-2 seasons to learn how to be an effective 6th man and we’d be set at PG with a young veteran who doesn’t break into hives when playing defense.
I’m still convinced that ultimately, Crawford’s contract and poor shooting/defense will hurt this team far more than it will help, but at least I have found a way to feel better about Teague. I just have to squint my eyes, tilt my head and hold my right foot up. Oh yeah, there you go, NOW I can see how that was a decent draft pick.
I MUS WRITE
June 26th, 2009
9:54 am
Oookay!!! This Ukranian guy looks like a straight up sniperbut what good is that going to do us if he never comes over like david anderson and Cenyk……. Some one said this before me but why not get Sutan,Siler,Mills,L Hudson with that pick.
Players i want on the summer league team
G Siler
Curtis jerrels
Josh Hypfelt
I got a felling Patty Mills feels disrespected by his draft position and will make a name for himself quickly……..
If we bring back Bibby and Flip teague wont see the court at all – Sunds first draft is about a 6
Hoops
June 26th, 2009
9:58 am
Hey Guys,
I think the Hawks are going to be better. Crawford is a great pick up for Acie & Speedy! Teague was the best PG available @ #19. There was not any player available @ #49 that could make the team, so why not pick an international player that we can watch and let him develop. If he does, great! If not, what did we loose? Mills would not make the Hawks roster next year. We don’t need two drafted PG’s! This is not Minnesota!
Where do we go from here? Bibby, Flip, Jack? That’s going to be a key decision by Sund and Woody. Woody likes Bibby, so I will not be surprised if we re-sign Bibby for 2 years. We must re-sign Marvin now! I really wish Chills would come back, but I don’t see it happening.
My concern is inside! Zaza is a must sign! Charlie V. would make this a GREAT off season! This could be our team:
PG-Bibby/Flip/Jack, Teague
SG-JJ, Crawford
SF-Marvin, Evans
PF-Josh, Charlie V.
C-Horford, Zaza, Morris