No need for snap decisions

The only thing that rages more than Josh Smith's emotions is his over-the-top talent . The Hawks would be wise to find ways to help channel that emotion in a positive direction.

 HAWKSVILLE - Raise your hand if you thought we’d all end up here.

Go ahead, raise it up high. Let the rest of us see you. I need to make sure we count the hands.

Good. Now that the roll call is over, it’s time to get down the serious business that will be retooling this Hawks roster for next season. In case you missed it, nearly half the roster is going to be diving into the free agent waters this summer.

That means there’s a chance that the Hawks team you saw on the floor in the Eastern Conference semifinals against Cleveland will be no more as of July 1, the date the free agent negotiating season kicks off. That also means that the ball switches from Mike Woodson, Joe Johnson, Mike Bibby and Josh Smith’s court to that of Hawks general manager Rick Sund.

And judging by his 30-plus year resume in the league, Sund is well aware that now is not the time for snap decisions. Those are the things, as my guy Jeff Schultz alluded to his in his column from Game 4 of the Cleveland series, that can implode a franchise. Sund needs to do what his predecessor did not after last year’s Game 7 loss to Boston, and that’s take a week or so to decompress from this experience before coming to any conclusions about this team.

(Injuries to both Al Horford and Marvin Williams complicate any postseason studies into their performances, so basically all you can go off of is their healthy regular season work.)

We, on the other hand, don’t have to wait for anything to start making our assessments of what we saw, what we liked and disliked and what we think needs to be done to improve for the future (a wise . We can dive right in, as I know you have been doing for days. So without further ado, here is one thing that can’t wait:

Since he’s the one player Hawks fans ride worse than any other, it’s only fitting that we address Josh Smith first. No fewer than a dozen people came up to me in the minutes after the game to insist that he was the reason the Hawks lost yet another game. He wasn’t locked in on defense, I was told, and he was the one giving up all the big shots, and he let Anderson Varejao work him on the boards the entire series and that’s ultimately what cost the Hawks.

I’ve written it before and I’ll write it again, once again Smith serves as the easy scapegoat for the Hawks’ larger problems (their paper-thin depth, their flawed offensive scheme the wordsmith Mark Bradley nailed in his recent column and their inability to get ball pressure on the ball at the outset of offensive possessions, just to name a few).

In addition to outscoring all the Hawks other starters (26 to 25) in Game 4, Smith led the Hawks in scoring (17.1), rebounds (7.5), blocks (1.5) and steals (1.1, he tied with Flip Murray) in 11 postseason games. He only shot 42 percent from the floor and a putrid 13 percent (2-for-15) from beyond the 3-point line. But he raised his dismal free throw shooting percentage from the regular season up to 72 percent during the playoffs.

The point is, for every deficiency he has (and five years into his career, Smith, like scores of other pros in the same situation, still has plenty) Smith has a matching skill that can’t be overlooked. His mission this summer, forget about the 3-point line and hone the post skills that few teams can deal with. Take a page out of the book of New Orleans Hornets forward David West and come back with a money 16-footer that makes teams pay for leaving you open on the wing.

I place as much of the responsibility for that happening on Smith as I do his employers. There has to be some sort of marriage of philosophies this summer to make sure that he comes back next season a more polished player and one that fulfills his role as the Hawks’ truly most dynamic player.

We’re going to toss Bibby’s name around quite a bit in the coming weeks, so let me start by insisting that you consider what the Hawks looked like before he showed up and then compare that to what they looked like in his 130 games in uniform. It was a different world, folks. So keep that in mind this summer as the Hawks start weighing their point guard possibilities – and they are endless, what with the free agent market, the draft and whatever sign-and-trade possibilities might be out there.

Bibby’s status as an unrestricted free agent means he’ll have suitors other than the Hawks capable of presenting him with the opportunity to play at least three or four more years (Bibby’s been around for 11 years but just made 31 today). “The Hawks can get someone that’s a better defender and better distributor at that position, but I don’t know that they’re going to get a better shot maker or a better fit for their

Hey Hawks, what are you going to do with Mike Bibby?

Hey Hawks, what are you going to do with Mike Bibby?

 

 

team,” a scout friend told me via email earlier today when I inquired about his assessment of Bibby’s situation with the Hawks. “There’s not a team in the league that doesn’t need a guy who’s going to knock down the big shots he does. And the funny thing is, for all the talk about his big salary this year ($15 million in the final year of his deal), you know you’re going to get him for half that or even less on this next deal. He’ll actually be a bargain on his next deal, compared to what he was.”

Bibby is and remains the biggest question mark of the Hawks’ free agents. If you keep him, his successor has to be located immediately and then groomed (what the Hawks did the past two years with Acie Law IV was anything but grooming him) to eventually take over the starting job. If you decide against keeping Bibby, you almost guarantee that you’ll have to locate your new starter via some sort of trade. Because there is little to no chance of finding a point guard ready to be pressed into immediate starting service in the June draft, not where the Hawks are picking (deep in the first round at either 19 or 20).

The Hawks could pull a fast one and snag their point guard of the future and Bibby’s immediate replacement all at once. But as an Eastern Conference executive explained to me Tuesday morning, they’ll have to find someone else’s “garbage” (it wasn’t garbage in the sense you might think, he meant a guy that someone deemed expendable) and make him their own – sort of like what Cleveland did with Delonte West, who has blossomed into one of the league’s top young attack guards (a point guard in size but whatever he wants to be because of his tenacity and fearlessness). Guys that fit that mold to me, and I think there are plenty, including former Georgia Tech star Jarrett Jack, Lakers backup Jordan Farmar (he’s under contract for the next two years and under siege by Shannon Brown), Milwaukee’s Ramon Sessions (unrestricted free agent and ready for prime time) and Portland’s Sergio Rodriguez (still under contract for another year but clearly expendable with Steve Blake and Jerryd Bayless on the roster). There are

Might former Georgia Tech star Jarrett Jack be in the Hawks' point guard plans for the future? We'll find out this summer.

Might former Georgia Tech star Jarrett Jack be in the Hawks' future plans at point guard? We'll find out this summer.

also veterans like Philly’s Andre Miller (unrestricted), Chicago’s Kirk Hinrich (hefty salary for the next three years but absolutely expendable with Derrick Rose at the helm and Ben Gordon an unrestricted free agent),  Charlotte’s Raymond Felton (restricted) and Utah’s Ronnie Price (unrestricted).

Again, the Hawks’ options are limitless, especially when you consider that basically half the players on their own roster are free agents of one form or another. But make no mistake, figuring out what to do at point guard remains the Hawks’ highest priority. 

And there are several reasons why – the first being their utter refusal to draft the right point guard year after year during the previous regime. The most important, however, is that point guard play in the NBA has become the equivalent of quarterback play in the NFL. Either you have a veteran hand capable of orchestrating almost any situation, a guy that can make everything run smoothly (Kurt Warner anyone) or you have the young phenom (the Falcons’ Matt Ryan comes to mind) that simply will not be denied. If you get caught between those two extremes, you’re gambling with your team’s future.

If you don’t believe quality point guard play can make the absolute difference between mediocre and championship worthy, you should spend a few minutes reading one of the best stories I’ve read about that very subject (courtesy of Tom Friend of ESPN’s Outside The Lines). Seriously, if you don’t do anything else, read this story from top to bottom to see how the right guy at the most important position on the floor (or field) can make all the difference in the world for a team … sort of like Bibby did for the Hawks the last year and a half.

624 comments Add your comment

Astro Joe

May 19th, 2009
9:56 am

So I’ll confess my opinion of big men who shoot jumpers… they are SOFT. Rasheed used to be lethal in the post, that sweet turn around jumper with the high release was unstoppable. But once he started making those 3s, he seemed to say “wow, I can score without banging? I like it out here”. And there, he stayed. I know that everyone is convinced that Josh takes jumpers because Woody often has him playing out of position. Is it possible that Smith (who everyone will agree is an under-sized PF) may also like to avoid contact on some offensive possessions? Or does that stereotype only work for Euro players and not Americans (again, like Rasheed, Tim Thomas, Troy Murphy & Antoine Walker to name a few)? I agree with Ray that Smith will likely grow by leaps and bounds with the right mentor. And chances are, that mentor needs to have a fair amount of baggage (I can’t imagine Smith learning at the knee of a choir boy… he needs someone with a similar edge). I just think Rasheed is a tremendous risk with regard to Smith’s maturation. I like what Rasheed would bring on the court (for the right price). And he would likely instill as much confidence to the team as Bibby brought in February, 2008. (His teammates have loved him everywhere he has played and he is reported to be a great guy who is super smart). It may be a gamble worth taking (Rasheed may even provide a bridge between Smith and Joe which certainly would help team chemistry).

Melvin

May 19th, 2009
10:11 am

Astro,
I think the Hawks will have to overspend to get Rasheed b/c he’s being link to the Spurs and Mavs. Something tells me he will be a Spur (they always get their guy) if the money is the same across the board. And base on your recap of Sund’s interview, I don’t see major changes coming this offseason. We may even resign our top 4 FA’s. One thing for sure, Sund definitely have to make a decision on JChill b/c this is the last season the Hawks would hold his rights. Im all for dumping Speedy and Mo to resign JChill. Heck, its possible we could keep Mo and give JChill Speedy’s salary.

BillyWhiteShoes

May 19th, 2009
10:29 am

1) Trade Marvin for a Center (Tyson Chandler, anyone). N.O. was about to trade Chandler for 3 bags of peanuts and a beer until they found out that his foot hurts.

2) Don’t resign Bibby and sign Ray Felton or Ramon Sessions with the extra money.

3) Resign your energy guys (Zsa Zsa and Flip).

4) Or you could get Mookie, Smitty, and Laetner to come out of retirement.

Astro Joe

May 19th, 2009
10:33 am

Melvin, if Spurs grab Rasheed, then Hawks should go after either Kurt Thomas or Oberto. Neither are true centers but they know their role. I have always like Thomas because he is old school-tough and was able to knock down the open jumper. And he will undoubtedly do the dirty work for a team. Rasheed’s fiery demeanor would actually fit perfectly with the ultra-calm Spurs.

Melvin

May 19th, 2009
11:03 am

Astro,
I like McDyess for us. A big that can rebound, hit the 17 footer and leaves it all on the floor every nite. Also, I would welcome Channing Frye as well. I think he’s becoming more of a 5 as his body fills out. He’s a young guy with good skills that hasn’t reach his peak on the development side and would be a nice backup for Josh/AL playing along side McDyess or ZaZa…

Astro Joe

May 19th, 2009
11:30 am

Melvin, love McDyess (and Joe Smith, too , who I think is very similar to McDyess). Less sold on Frye, seems very, very soft to me.

Just read some lottery speculation. If Sacramento gets #1 pick, they will naturally choose Griffin. Which led me to think about a S&T where we get Jason Thompson and Nocioni for Marvin and maybe Acie. Thompson can be that perimeter-oriented center and Nocioni gives us toughness off the bench. Kings get to rebuild their team around Kevin Martin, Marvin, Blake Griffin and Hawes. A super-nice nucleus for the Maloof Brothers.

Astro Joe

May 19th, 2009
11:41 am

Sund interview this morning. Looks like there are 3 segments available.
http://multimedia.790thezone.com/

dap01

May 19th, 2009
12:01 pm

That interview with Sund scares me. Sund did little to make me think that he has a plan. He seems to constantly justify the failures of the Hawks. I was not impressed, he gave no insight.

moboman

May 19th, 2009
12:35 pm

Mario West is a feel good story wasting room on the bench. Acie Law hasnt proven durable enough to be counted on as the successor to Bibby. Too risky to count on him as the answer. Marvin is not a starter, good trade material. Joe is a keeper but we may need to package him in a trade if the deal is right due to contract length. Have to have a big man. Keep Bibby at the right price, or move on. CANT OVERSPEND FOR HIM. Flip and Mo were good acquisitions and keepers. Childress cant shoot and is trade bait, dont need him back. Morris is a slow flop. I have confidence in Sund’s ability to improve the roster in whatever way is necessary. Josh and Horford are bonafide NBA starters, but at the 3 & 4. So are Joe, and so is Bibby at the right price. Need a real 5, not a team full of 4’s.

Hoops

May 19th, 2009
1:27 pm

Billy White Shoes,

You make some valid points. What do you think about these options?

1. Resign Bibby and move him to the 2 position for outside shooting.
2. Trade Marvin for a PG. Sessions & Miller are FA. Westbrook or Conley are possible.
3. Move Joe to the 3 position.
4. Trade Josh Smith for a starting 5 man and move Horford to the 4 position. Bynum is a possibility. He is getting alot of pine time in LA. Maybe trade up to get Thabeet. Use Law and Speedy in any trade to get more salary space. Resign Zaza.
5. Resign Flip as a back up 1 and bring back J Childress.

doc

May 19th, 2009
2:06 pm

thanks aj for the link.

ScarlettOhara

May 19th, 2009
3:00 pm

Hoops: you are way off; First of all, dont bring Bynum here. Bynum is an undeveloped talent, a big guy, but completely unproductive as far as scoring is concerned. Dont get rid of Flip and bring back Childress. Childress is gone to Greece and will never return. Flip deserves a promotion into the starting lineup. Flip should replace Marvin Williams in the starting lineup and that should make an immediate impact on the Hawks. That one move will make the Hawks a 50-win team. Also develop AC Law into a point guard. Acie should eventually replace Mike Bibby in the starting lineup as point guard. The Hawks have a great nucleus which should not be dismantled.

Hoops

May 19th, 2009
3:55 pm

ScarlettOhara,

I’ll agree that Bynum has some developing to go, but we need a Big that can play defense and rebound while Horford is on the floor @ the 4 position. Zaza has to be resigned, but we need a starter @ the 5.

I was not suggesting that we not resign Flip. I really like Flip better than J Childress, but we can use J Childress as trade bait if needed. Let Flip compete with the new point guard for the spot. I just think that Bibby would be a better 2 because he would give us another outside shooter to go with JJ. This is what I see as a contender for the Hawks:
1-New PG (Sessions, Miller, Westbrook), AC Law
2-Bibby, Flip
3-JJ, Evans
4-Horford, Solo
5-New Center (Bynum, Rasheed), Zaza

That team can play with the best right there! Great guard play, great outside shooting, and Bigs that can play inside! What do you think?

Sautee

May 19th, 2009
4:03 pm

moboman,

about this: “Acie Law hasnt proven durable enough to be counted on as the successor to Bibby.”

Just for the record, and to once and for all put this NONSENSE to bed:

Over the last 2 years, Mike Bibby has played a whopping 16 games more than Acie. And just how many dnp-cd’s do you think Acie got over that time?

And, Bibby just turned 31, but for some reason, folks THINK he’s WAY more durable than Acie. I just don’t get that.

And this fallacy keeps on being repeated, like a bad game of “gossip”.

If you want to say he’s not talented enough, fine. But to say he’s “not proven to be durable enough”, well, I don’t buy it unless there’s some acknowledgement that Bibby may not be durable enough either. And Acie’s not getting ready to sign a big contract like Bibby is.

I guess I’m saying that perhaps the fear of a lack of durability should be aimed more at Bibby (whom, as most here know, I like). I’m not as worried as many about Acie’s durability. Youngun’s heal faster than 31 year olds.

Sautee

May 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

Astro Joe,

I don’ tthink you can really include Troy Murphy in your list of “soft” bigs who can shoot the 3.

Or did he average 11.8 rebounds without banging? LOL, maybe he just got all the long rebounds on his missed 3’s. ;-)

Sautee

May 19th, 2009
4:33 pm

AJ

Meant to ask you about this: “Somewhere, between a 13 win season and a 47 win season, many stopped caring for wins and grew content watching the turnstyle at the scorers table. WTF is that about?”

C’mon now Joe, “many” stopped caring about wins?

I could not name a soul on this blog who cares MORE about playing time than wins. You must be able to or you wouldn’t have made that post. Unless of course it was a straw man argument, designed only to sarcastically make your point.

So Joe, which was it? Are their REALLY folks out there on this blog, who you see as caring more about playing time than wins?

Or was that an over-reaction to the assault on Woody over player development?

Gotta be one or the other.

And then there’s this: ” Woody is responsible for the development of the players, for free throw shooting, for turnovers, for defensive rotations, for moving screens, for poor foot work, for fast break opportunities, for points in the paint and a whole lot more. He is both responsible and accountable.”

So, next season, will we see a brand new Astro Joe, holding Woody accountable for all the afore mentioned stuff?

BTW, I agree that Dallas has little to offer.

Astro Joe

May 19th, 2009
4:45 pm

Sautee, he is accountable for all of that stuff. Just like any other leader has to be accountable for all of the stuff that his direct reports care for. The CEO of Coca-Cola is responsible for the display at the QT in my neighborhood. Trust me, I understand that concept completely.

Player development on this blog is like the Braves blog complaining about the hitting order. Who gives a crap? The team won 10 more games. If Acie had played extensively, we still would have lost to Cleveland and we would not have had a better playoff seeding. So who cares?

The details are interesting (sometimes) but ultimately irrelevant.

Sekou Smith

May 19th, 2009
4:55 pm

New blog up. Good news for some of you. Not so good for some others. Ha. Chew it up as you will. Draft lottery is tonight as well. Lots of good stuff to talk about. New blog up!!!!!!!

Sautee

May 19th, 2009
5:10 pm

“If Acie had played extensively, we still would have lost to Cleveland and we would not have had a better playoff seeding. So who cares?”

True dat, BUT if Acie HAD played extensively, we’d now have more data to judge his potential as a possible answer to our point guard quandry.

AND, Joe would have played fewer minutes, since Flip’s minutes would have been at the 2, where they SHOULD have been in my estimation.

So maybe we play Cleveland a little better with a rested Joe, AND a little more defense and penetration at the 1, but you are correct that the result would likely have been the same.

“Player development on this blog is like the Braves blog complaining about the hitting order. Who gives a crap?”

Oh, only those who take a long range view. If player development is so easily ignored, woe be to the 2011 Hawks and beyond. If Woody is “responsible and accountable”, and yet is refusing to BE “responsible and accountable” regarding player development, then THAT ITSELF is a great reason to “give a crap”.

I’ll have to point out that you artfully dodged my questions in my 4:33 post..

C’mon, Joe, I have faith in you,answer up.

SEASON TICKET HOLDER

May 27th, 2009
6:05 am

I hope Sund realizes the potential that Acie Law has. As a fan I’m anxious to see what an healthy Acie Law will bring to this Franchise. This ball club should be built around players no the coach and with being said keeping Acie on the bench is a henderence to a very young and talented point gaurd in this Association. Sunds we read in the interview where you “liked” Acie Law…Lets see if given a chance will those words turn to like….

Go HAWKS!

SEASON TICKET HOLDER

May 27th, 2009
6:10 am

I hope Sund realizes the potential that Acie Law has. As a fan I’m anxious to see what an healthy Acie Law will bring to this Franchise. This ball club should be built around players not the coach and with that being said keeping Acie on the bench is a henderence to a very young and talented point gaurd in this Association. *SUNDS* we read in the interview where you “liked” Acie Law…Lets see if (he) is given a chance will those words turn into like….

Go HAWKS!

sorry i didnt proof read the previous comment

Nique

May 28th, 2009
1:13 pm

Good article, I think trading for Kirk Hinrich & then restructuring him cap & deal would make alot of since. He pushes the ball like our team should, is known for his tough D, & is a pretty good shooter, all things we need in our pg, plus we could probably get him for a 2cnd, or at least this year & next year’s 2cnd, holding onto our # 1’s. But if they don’t go that way Maynor would be a good fit as well. I also, like Lawson, but his injury history & lack of size worries me.

Mitch

May 28th, 2009
6:41 pm

SIGN MIKE BIBBY PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jared

May 31st, 2009
10:23 pm

I think that the hawks should fire mike woodson and replace him with avery johnson. let mike bibby go and sign ben gordon and raymond felton and trade joe johnson and a draft pick back to pheonix for stoudamire. also resign zaza and make sure we keep flip. also coach josh smith into either developing a jump shot or to stop taking them.
NEXT YEAR STARTING LINEUP:
PG: RAYMOND FELTON
SG: BEN GORDON
SF: MARVIN WILLIAMS
PF: JOSH SMITH
C: AMARE STOUDAMIRE

GOOOOOOOO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!