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		<title>By: Ken Strickland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/05/07/stand-up-hawks/comment-page-7/#comment-11440</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MYKHALC-ANEN TO THAT. When you watch tonights gm, pay close attantion to how often Cleveland uses our DEF strategy of switching to isolate their Pg or SG on our C or PF. Once they get the mismatch, they clearout and the PG/SG backs it out and blows by our PF/C, leaving either Bibby, JJ, Flip or Evans to defend the basket. Is it any wonder why teams are running uncontested layup drills on us?

My biggest complaint is Woodson&#039;s refusal to make a single adjustment. Instead, he chooses to ignore the problem and blame the players for playing poor DEF. Is it really poor DEF when our C&#039;s &amp; PF&#039;s are unable to keep the other teams quicker, faster PG&#039;s or SG&#039;s in front of them when Woodson&#039;s own cherished PG can&#039;t do it. Is it really poor DEF when our PG&#039;s, SG&#039;s and SF&#039;s are unable to defend the basket against the other teams C&#039;s and PF&#039;s? 

The logical solution would be to send a double team as soon as the mismatch occurs, there&#039;s a clearout and the PG/SG backs up to run an iso against our C or PF. A double team will force the ball out of the PG/SG&#039;s hands and allow our C/PF to drop back under the basket where he belongs. It also forces the opposition to take extra time off the clock. 

WE HAVE AN INCOMPETENT HC THAT WOULD RATHER BLAME HIS PLAYERS FOR THE TEAMS DEF PROBLEMS RATHER THAN SEEK A NEEDED SOLUTION TO THOSE PROBLEMS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS FOR SOME OF THE HAWK PLAYERS BECAUSE IT&#039;S SOOO FRUSTRATING TO ME, AND I DON&#039;T HAVE TO DEAL WITH WOODSON&#039;S BS DIRECTLY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MYKHALC-ANEN TO THAT. When you watch tonights gm, pay close attantion to how often Cleveland uses our DEF strategy of switching to isolate their Pg or SG on our C or PF. Once they get the mismatch, they clearout and the PG/SG backs it out and blows by our PF/C, leaving either Bibby, JJ, Flip or Evans to defend the basket. Is it any wonder why teams are running uncontested layup drills on us?</p>
<p>My biggest complaint is Woodson&#8217;s refusal to make a single adjustment. Instead, he chooses to ignore the problem and blame the players for playing poor DEF. Is it really poor DEF when our C&#8217;s &amp; PF&#8217;s are unable to keep the other teams quicker, faster PG&#8217;s or SG&#8217;s in front of them when Woodson&#8217;s own cherished PG can&#8217;t do it. Is it really poor DEF when our PG&#8217;s, SG&#8217;s and SF&#8217;s are unable to defend the basket against the other teams C&#8217;s and PF&#8217;s? </p>
<p>The logical solution would be to send a double team as soon as the mismatch occurs, there&#8217;s a clearout and the PG/SG backs up to run an iso against our C or PF. A double team will force the ball out of the PG/SG&#8217;s hands and allow our C/PF to drop back under the basket where he belongs. It also forces the opposition to take extra time off the clock. </p>
<p>WE HAVE AN INCOMPETENT HC THAT WOULD RATHER BLAME HIS PLAYERS FOR THE TEAMS DEF PROBLEMS RATHER THAN SEEK A NEEDED SOLUTION TO THOSE PROBLEMS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS FOR SOME OF THE HAWK PLAYERS BECAUSE IT&#8217;S SOOO FRUSTRATING TO ME, AND I DON&#8217;T HAVE TO DEAL WITH WOODSON&#8217;S BS DIRECTLY.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Fan In New Orleans</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/05/07/stand-up-hawks/comment-page-7/#comment-11424</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Fan In New Orleans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for series introspection into our lack of motivation. It starts with coaching.
Coach Woodson has a lot of postives and fewer negatives IMO.
HOWEVER!!!
My biggest gripe with Woody is his deficiency of developing his bench which goes hand in hand with his knack for over-working his starters. Burnout and injuries are inevitable with his selfish insistence on running his top 7 players into the ground ( I feel its selfish b/c he is putting his job security first at the expense of playing and developing his youngsters and underplayed role-players.) Now - that injuries have caught up with us, the 2nd unit are thrown up the creek without a paddle. I love the hunger they display - but that obviously cannot be coached or else the 1st unit would display that same characteristic that’s rarely displayed when they play on the road - Mike Vick said it best when he said “sometimes you have to overcome coaching.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for series introspection into our lack of motivation. It starts with coaching.<br />
Coach Woodson has a lot of postives and fewer negatives IMO.<br />
HOWEVER!!!<br />
My biggest gripe with Woody is his deficiency of developing his bench which goes hand in hand with his knack for over-working his starters. Burnout and injuries are inevitable with his selfish insistence on running his top 7 players into the ground ( I feel its selfish b/c he is putting his job security first at the expense of playing and developing his youngsters and underplayed role-players.) Now &#8211; that injuries have caught up with us, the 2nd unit are thrown up the creek without a paddle. I love the hunger they display &#8211; but that obviously cannot be coached or else the 1st unit would display that same characteristic that’s rarely displayed when they play on the road &#8211; Mike Vick said it best when he said “sometimes you have to overcome coaching.”</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Fan In New Orleans</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/05/07/stand-up-hawks/comment-page-7/#comment-11422</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Fan In New Orleans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for series introspection into our lack of motivation. It starts with coaching.
Coach Woodson has a lot of postives and fewer negatives IMO. 
HOWEVER!!!
My biggest gripe with Woody is his deficiency of developing his bench which goes hand in hand with his knack for over-working his starters. Burnout and injuries are inevitable with his selfish insistence on running his top 7 players into the ground ( I feel its selfish b/c he is putting his job security first at the expense of playing and developing his youngsters and underplayed role-players.) Now - that injuries have caught up with us, the 2nd unit are thrown up the creek without a paddle. I love the hunger they display - but that obviously cannot be coached or else the 1st unit would display that same characteristic that&#039;s rarely displayed when they play on the road - Mike Vick said it best when he said &quot;sometimes you have to overcome coaching.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for series introspection into our lack of motivation. It starts with coaching.<br />
Coach Woodson has a lot of postives and fewer negatives IMO.<br />
HOWEVER!!!<br />
My biggest gripe with Woody is his deficiency of developing his bench which goes hand in hand with his knack for over-working his starters. Burnout and injuries are inevitable with his selfish insistence on running his top 7 players into the ground ( I feel its selfish b/c he is putting his job security first at the expense of playing and developing his youngsters and underplayed role-players.) Now &#8211; that injuries have caught up with us, the 2nd unit are thrown up the creek without a paddle. I love the hunger they display &#8211; but that obviously cannot be coached or else the 1st unit would display that same characteristic that&#8217;s rarely displayed when they play on the road &#8211; Mike Vick said it best when he said &#8220;sometimes you have to overcome coaching.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mykhalc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mykhalc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s/b 19yrs old bein&#039; drafted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s/b 19yrs old bein&#8217; drafted</p>
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		<title>By: rms</title>
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		<dc:creator>rms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dang Big Ray, That was probalby the best post I have ever read (10:39pm). Smart, well thought out, and makes sense. The question is will ownership ever consult with Bibby or just show him the door because they cant &quot;afford him&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dang Big Ray, That was probalby the best post I have ever read (10:39pm). Smart, well thought out, and makes sense. The question is will ownership ever consult with Bibby or just show him the door because they cant &#8220;afford him&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: le brown james THE KING OF ATLANTA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/05/07/stand-up-hawks/comment-page-7/#comment-11414</link>
		<dc:creator>le brown james THE KING OF ATLANTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ready girls for round 3 of 4 round knoutout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ready girls for round 3 of 4 round knoutout.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekou Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/05/07/stand-up-hawks/comment-page-7/#comment-11413</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekou Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m reading the mood here right like I read the Hawks&#039; body language shortly after halftime in Game 2, most of you are expecting this season to end early this week, say as soon as Monday night. We&#039;ve got to much to talk about as soon as the season is over that I agree with bigdave, that there are too many good points to lose in the ether. So feel free to cut and paste (for a later date) some of the stuff you&#039;ve written here Ray and others, so we can have these discussions when the ball stops bouncing on the 2008-09 season.

I&#039;ve been arguing for two days with several people about where the Hawks have to go to get better and it&#039;s pretty radical (you have to take a Rambo knife to the roster and start removing and replacing pieces liberally to get your championship mix right). But again, that&#039;s a discussion we&#039;re going to have another day.

As for tonight, Game 3 is the series for the Hawks. Pull off the miraculous win and there&#039;s a chance  to put at least a little scare into the NBA and the Cavs. But if they can&#039;t muster the energy to fight off LeBron and his boys, it&#039;s pretty much a wrap. There&#039;s no shame in it. These Cavs are going to be a tough out for anyone, including Kobe and the Lakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m reading the mood here right like I read the Hawks&#8217; body language shortly after halftime in Game 2, most of you are expecting this season to end early this week, say as soon as Monday night. We&#8217;ve got to much to talk about as soon as the season is over that I agree with bigdave, that there are too many good points to lose in the ether. So feel free to cut and paste (for a later date) some of the stuff you&#8217;ve written here Ray and others, so we can have these discussions when the ball stops bouncing on the 2008-09 season.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been arguing for two days with several people about where the Hawks have to go to get better and it&#8217;s pretty radical (you have to take a Rambo knife to the roster and start removing and replacing pieces liberally to get your championship mix right). But again, that&#8217;s a discussion we&#8217;re going to have another day.</p>
<p>As for tonight, Game 3 is the series for the Hawks. Pull off the miraculous win and there&#8217;s a chance  to put at least a little scare into the NBA and the Cavs. But if they can&#8217;t muster the energy to fight off LeBron and his boys, it&#8217;s pretty much a wrap. There&#8217;s no shame in it. These Cavs are going to be a tough out for anyone, including Kobe and the Lakers.</p>
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		<title>By: mykhalc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mykhalc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KEN, i hear ya man. the only part i disagree on is that i think WOODSON was the right &#039;type of hire&#039; hire 5 yrs ago. perfect for a team where dismantlin&#039; was the objective and winnin&#039; an after-thought...perfect for 19yrs bein&#039; drafted. WOODSON gets a shot to audition and show his asst coachin&#039; skills as a HC. it&#039;s obvious WOODSON was not given the tools initially. but it is also obvious NOW that even with the tools he does NOT know how to maximize this team. and that was evident last year and definitely this year. people can holla all they want that the team won 47 games. well if they don&#039;t wanna look at &#039;how&#039; this team wins and under what circumstances this team wins then that&#039;s on them. it&#039;s clear that WOODSON&#039;s skills are not a match with the team&#039;s makeup. and maybe the SAASG is just happy they continue to have a team much less &#039;really&#039; chart a winnin&#039; course for their team. maybe they feel obligated to WOODSON despite the obvious. but the embarassin&#039; road efforts, now and thru the season, should be a wake up for SUND and the SAASG. i hope they make the required efforts to continue to move this team forward in a winnin&#039; way. and it HAS to start with the firin&#039; of WOODSON...PERIOD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KEN, i hear ya man. the only part i disagree on is that i think WOODSON was the right &#8216;type of hire&#8217; hire 5 yrs ago. perfect for a team where dismantlin&#8217; was the objective and winnin&#8217; an after-thought&#8230;perfect for 19yrs bein&#8217; drafted. WOODSON gets a shot to audition and show his asst coachin&#8217; skills as a HC. it&#8217;s obvious WOODSON was not given the tools initially. but it is also obvious NOW that even with the tools he does NOT know how to maximize this team. and that was evident last year and definitely this year. people can holla all they want that the team won 47 games. well if they don&#8217;t wanna look at &#8216;how&#8217; this team wins and under what circumstances this team wins then that&#8217;s on them. it&#8217;s clear that WOODSON&#8217;s skills are not a match with the team&#8217;s makeup. and maybe the SAASG is just happy they continue to have a team much less &#8216;really&#8217; chart a winnin&#8217; course for their team. maybe they feel obligated to WOODSON despite the obvious. but the embarassin&#8217; road efforts, now and thru the season, should be a wake up for SUND and the SAASG. i hope they make the required efforts to continue to move this team forward in a winnin&#8217; way. and it HAS to start with the firin&#8217; of WOODSON&#8230;PERIOD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Strickland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MYKHALC &amp; SAUTEE-apparently it is possible because I received some complaints about my constant complaints about Woodson, and a suggestion to let it rest. Some Hawk fans&#039; perception and acceptance of this teams accomplishments are based on the Hawks inconsistent and lowly past. There&#039;re just elated to see us make the playoffs and get home court advantage in the 1st rd, and that&#039;s quite an accomplishment when compared to our accompliahments the last 10yrs. 

However, that elation often makes them overlook the fragile foundation upon which we stand and that we&#039;ve created a catch 22, so to speak. Because we&#039;re such an awful road team, we don&#039;t stand a chance of winning a playoff series without having homecourt advantage. We&#039;ve proven throughout the regular season that our road woes aren&#039;t limited to the playoffs. There&#039;s a problem when a team is good enough to win 47gms but can&#039;t win more than 16 rd gms.

LOOK AT ANY TEAM WITH A GOOD RD RECORD AND YOU&#039;LL SEE A TEAM THAT HAS GOOD COACHING AND USES ITS BENCH. When I saw how we struggled against the Heat, I knew we didn&#039;t have a chance against the Cavaliers. We lack the coaching, the system, the discipline, the strategy and the depth to compete consistently against quality teams, especially in the playoffs.

Former GM Billy Knight put together a young, quick, fast, athletic and versatile team. Contrary to popular belief, not drafting PG&#039;s CPaul and DWilliams, or SG BRoy weren&#039;t his biggest mistakes. His biggest mistake was hiring Mike Woodson and thinking he would/could maximize the talent and potential of the young players and team. Unfortunately for him, he tried multiple times to correct his mistake and it cost him his job. 

Now the team, its fans and the entire city of Atlanta are embarrassed because the SAASG made a bad decision and got rid of the wrong person. A lot of you keep saying the Hawks don&#039;t have any leaders. Well, we have leaders, just not the right kind. After all, who do you think is taking control of the OFF and refusing to pass the ball or hustle on DEF. They are leaders, but selfish leaders that consistently reflect the same lack of trust in certain teammates that HC Mike has demonstrated over the last 2yrs. 

LEADERSHIP, STRATEGY AND DISCIPLINE STARTS AT THE TOP AND SO DOES ORGANIZAION. THE PLAYERS HAVE TO SHARE SOME OF THE BLAME, BUT IT&#039;S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY CAN&#039;T CONSISTENTLY OVERCOME A FLAWED SYSTEM, A FLAWED OR NONEXISTENT STRATEGY AND A FLAWED HC. MY ONLY CONSULATION IS THAT FORMER GM BILLY KNIGHT HAS TO FEEL MUCH WORSE THAN I DO ABOUT HOW THE TALENTED YOUNG TEAM HE PUT TOGETHER IS BEING MISHANDLED AND UNDERACHIEVING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MYKHALC &amp; SAUTEE-apparently it is possible because I received some complaints about my constant complaints about Woodson, and a suggestion to let it rest. Some Hawk fans&#8217; perception and acceptance of this teams accomplishments are based on the Hawks inconsistent and lowly past. There&#8217;re just elated to see us make the playoffs and get home court advantage in the 1st rd, and that&#8217;s quite an accomplishment when compared to our accompliahments the last 10yrs. </p>
<p>However, that elation often makes them overlook the fragile foundation upon which we stand and that we&#8217;ve created a catch 22, so to speak. Because we&#8217;re such an awful road team, we don&#8217;t stand a chance of winning a playoff series without having homecourt advantage. We&#8217;ve proven throughout the regular season that our road woes aren&#8217;t limited to the playoffs. There&#8217;s a problem when a team is good enough to win 47gms but can&#8217;t win more than 16 rd gms.</p>
<p>LOOK AT ANY TEAM WITH A GOOD RD RECORD AND YOU&#8217;LL SEE A TEAM THAT HAS GOOD COACHING AND USES ITS BENCH. When I saw how we struggled against the Heat, I knew we didn&#8217;t have a chance against the Cavaliers. We lack the coaching, the system, the discipline, the strategy and the depth to compete consistently against quality teams, especially in the playoffs.</p>
<p>Former GM Billy Knight put together a young, quick, fast, athletic and versatile team. Contrary to popular belief, not drafting PG&#8217;s CPaul and DWilliams, or SG BRoy weren&#8217;t his biggest mistakes. His biggest mistake was hiring Mike Woodson and thinking he would/could maximize the talent and potential of the young players and team. Unfortunately for him, he tried multiple times to correct his mistake and it cost him his job. </p>
<p>Now the team, its fans and the entire city of Atlanta are embarrassed because the SAASG made a bad decision and got rid of the wrong person. A lot of you keep saying the Hawks don&#8217;t have any leaders. Well, we have leaders, just not the right kind. After all, who do you think is taking control of the OFF and refusing to pass the ball or hustle on DEF. They are leaders, but selfish leaders that consistently reflect the same lack of trust in certain teammates that HC Mike has demonstrated over the last 2yrs. </p>
<p>LEADERSHIP, STRATEGY AND DISCIPLINE STARTS AT THE TOP AND SO DOES ORGANIZAION. THE PLAYERS HAVE TO SHARE SOME OF THE BLAME, BUT IT&#8217;S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY CAN&#8217;T CONSISTENTLY OVERCOME A FLAWED SYSTEM, A FLAWED OR NONEXISTENT STRATEGY AND A FLAWED HC. MY ONLY CONSULATION IS THAT FORMER GM BILLY KNIGHT HAS TO FEEL MUCH WORSE THAN I DO ABOUT HOW THE TALENTED YOUNG TEAM HE PUT TOGETHER IS BEING MISHANDLED AND UNDERACHIEVING.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt; EJH, 


&lt;em&gt; I agree with the first sentence. These guys have made some achievements here. 

Your other thoughts on roster changes are...interesting...</description>
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<p><em> I agree with the first sentence. These guys have made some achievements here. </p>
<p>Your other thoughts on roster changes are&#8230;interesting&#8230;</em></strong></p>
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