No Marvin, no cry!
The Hawks won't have Marvin Williams to lean on.
MIAMI - The Hawks survived 16 games late in the regular-season without Marvin Williams.
Now it’s time to see if they can go the next 48 minutes or so without him.
The Hawks’ starting small forward has a soft black cast on his right wrist, inadvertently matching the American Airlines Arena crowd in their “Black is Back” get up for Game 3 in this first round playoff series.
A nasty fall late in the third quarter of Wednesday’s Game 2 loss to the Heat at Philips Arena will cost Williams this game for sure. There’s no indication of how much time he’ll miss altogether. That hasn’t been made clear as of yet.
Believe it or not, there are more pressing issues for the Hawks right now.
Whether or not the Hawks get overwhelmed by the Heat and this atmosphere that is off the charts crazy right now remains to be seen.
But know this, their road to winning this series has taken a drastic turn without Williams and with Dwyane Wade and his crew feeling the proverbial heat (a cheap one I know, but I couldn’t help myself).
And if you think Game is going to be tough, Game 4 Monday night is going to be dang near impossible, because everyone down here in South Florida is going sense that it’s just a matter of time before the Heat wins this series.
While it’s far from over, this is not the kind of atmosphere (18-4 and counting right now in favor of the Heat) the Hawks could afford to falter in, not with their season on the line over the next 72 hours.
Let the venting begin Hawks fans.
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Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
Did I mention Josh Smith’s BASKETBALL IQ and PROFESSIONALISM? Along with Zaza’s BALL-HANDLING, Mo Evans’ CONSISTENCY, and Acie Law’s PLAYING TIME, this franchise is destined for GREATNESS!! Sales reps are STANDING BY!!!
Da Real Real
April 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
I’m amazed that Rick Sund, the ASG, and Mike Woodson has so much to say lol. Hilarious man.
pinoy hawk
April 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
doc and big ray,
you guys suck. i enjoy reading your blogs but after that “ugly filipino” remarks (w/c had no logical connection to the “ugly loss” by the hawks), you lost my respect. be objective and stop making these stupid racist comments! idiots!
Big Ray
April 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
I am better than you
Big Ray
April 25th, 2009
10:14 pm
MYKHALC,
Yeah, that’s the problem with people like that. You never know which personality is the dominant one. Boredom after a bad loss, I suppose..
gusman354
April 25th, 2009
10:14 pm
who died= the hawks
WHO DIED......?
April 25th, 2009
10:14 pm
13,13,13,10,8,6,6 points by hawk players!!!!florida’s 6a high school basketball team will beat hawk with those numbers!!!! where’s joe johnson,give josh credit he hit couple off shots,but not seen in first have,horford who,i know flip had y’all hype 7 quick pts,mo evans too, what 2 3’s for him,and ZAZA looks how hawks players and fans feel,ugly,but it’s like repeating same thing oner and over, do you really think joe johnson is on WADE’S level, and the heat aint really doubling joe that much,trapping him in corners and helping on drives,trust me we have enough defense not to double him.J ONEAL is HUGH,so much for being washed up.this series is over!! did you see crowd chanting defense first 3mins of game now thats home-court not that sh*t in the highlight factory.ps woody doing the best with what he got which aint much,hawks has not one true go to guy,maybe josh needs to slap sh*t out of johnson to get him going
kwooden1
April 25th, 2009
10:15 pm
Big Ray, I hoped that the HAWKS would sprout an offensive, but it definitely didn’t happen. The HAWKS have one more at home 2-2-1-1-1, which is obviously needed. The HEAT came out with the energy and the refs were calling nothing at the rim. If O-Neal can play that way 2 more times, this series is over! The HAWKS are going to have to double Wade and O’Neal, and live with the results. Hopefully this is a wakeup call to start running better offensive. I don’t think its going to happen but we can only hope.
GO HAWKS??
Harry Hawk
April 25th, 2009
10:17 pm
The Heat looked like they had “nimbers” (thanks, ‘Nique) all night. Woody was sticking with seven guys for most of the game, but it didn’t look like we had more than a couple of them on the court at any one time. Just a pathetic BS effort on the road from a team that certainly should know better after getting pasted four times in Boston last season.
Big Ray
April 25th, 2009
10:18 pm
Pinoy Hawk,
That was not me. Notice that my posts are highlighted all in gray. The fake “big ray” posts are NOT. If you read my stuff regularly, you’ll know I’m not a racist. By the way, I hope you’re not the same person who is trying his best to pretend to be me (but lacks the language skills to do so).
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:18 pm
Don’t lose FOCUS, Hawks Fans: these two blowouts are just a minor SET-BACK in our MARCH TO THE NBA FINALS!! This team is still YOUNG and BUILDING, and we only missed winning tonight’s game by THIRTY POINTS!!
EAST ATLANTA HAWKS FAN
April 25th, 2009
10:18 pm
I GUESS WHEN JOE JOHNSON PLAYS ANOTHER ALL STAR LIKE WADE HE DISAPPEARS,
IM TIRED OF SEEING JOSH SMITH CRY EVERYTIME HE GETS A FOUL CALLED,COACH WOODSON CANT DRAW PLAYS FOR THE OFFENCE,THE HAWKS ARE NOT A HALF COURT TEAM.
JOSH SMITH STOP JACKING UP THREES ITS NOT YOUR GAME.
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:20 pm
Big Ray, you should take advantage of our Chick Fila Family Night! I don’t know what is wrong with these fans. Josh is a phenom and he is only getting better. Josh makes great decisions especially when he is on a fast break. These fans need to realize that the organization has arrived and is almost ELITE! All we have to do is not necessarily win in the playoffs, but win maybe three more games. That would get us to 50.
I promise that with I know what I am talking about. After all I have been in the league for 30 years.
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:22 pm
fire Mike Woodson and hire Avery Johnson
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:24 pm
I admire Josh Smith for showing NO FEAR in shooting THIRTY-FIVE FOOTERS: he’s well on his way to being an ALL-STAR, just like CAPTAIN JOE JOHNSON!! Wow, TWO ALL-STARS on one team? I can barely FATHOM all the CHAMPIONSHIPS we’ll win sometime in our LIFETIMES!!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:24 pm
hawkman, we need Mike Woodson. I mean afterall he has improved the team 5 straight years. Two straight playoff appearances. What more can you ask?
Nauseated
April 25th, 2009
10:24 pm
Lmfao @ repeated attempts to promote Chik-Fil-A Family Night.
Stay calm! All is well!
jake
April 25th, 2009
10:24 pm
There’s a strong chance Joe Johnson never makes the East All Star team again.
Arenas, Jamison, Butler, Vince, and Arenas (injury) all did not make the team this year. Not to mention that teams are starting to discover JJ is not that good…
Big Ray
April 25th, 2009
10:25 pm
Kwooden 1,
Precisely. There were some around here that scoffed mightily at the idea of Jermaine O’Neal being able to play well. They smuggly calculated that his last game was an aberration. Funny, haven’t seen or heard much out of them lately. Apparently that naive attitude was also taken by the Hawks, who were beaten before halftime arrived.
The only way to prevent O’Neal from having that kind of impact is NOT the generic “Woody” approach of “defend him better.” You also have to make him work hard on defense, so that he does not have the extra energy needed to pull his slick moves off.
But no, we will continue to shoot jumpers and not make these guys work. And we won’t be getting the calls. We do not play a good half court offense, despite the apparent insistence of going with one. As I said on the Hawks Hack blog, if you’re going to do that, then you need to see a series of screens, so at least your shooters can get good looks at the basket. Did we do that?
No. And the TNT guys were right for clowning us. ‘Cause that’s what we looked like on the floor: clowns. Can you tell I’m angry?
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:27 pm
I hope we lose on Monday and get finished off at home so the crowd can boo the hell out of Mike Woodson and get him out of town!!!!
Dominique Wilkins
April 25th, 2009
10:28 pm
Michael Beasle and Odonis Haslem weren’t much of a factor tonight, eh Bob? Looks like Dwyane Weed and Mario Chambers did their thang!
WHO DIED......?
April 25th, 2009
10:28 pm
SUN tried to run too,with better team and never won anything,so what make hawk fan think in playoffs they gonna run wild,yea a game here,and maybe one more in a 7 game series but never 4 games not against good team with decent team defense.i hear fan saying heat can shoot but everybody was hitting 3,s and im still waiting on BEASLEY to do his thang.o’yea before spo became coach he use to draw up game plans for riley,maybe that why he looks better than woody,but its not woody its the players,he’s not take bad shot, making turn overs,etc, and if he sat smith for take bad shots you would cry, if he sat bibby for not attacking, you will cry,and if he leaves that garbage on the bench you will cry,but no one crying about missing joe johnson.hawk fans have blamed everybody but themselves for the hawks being down 2-1.i hope team dont read these blogs b/c y’all are part time fans
Da Real Real
April 25th, 2009
10:28 pm
Ok, the Rick Sund 10:20 pm comment bout had me on the floor laughin. Hilarious man, just what some of us need to take our mind off the crap we seen tonight.
Big Ray
April 25th, 2009
10:29 pm
I said I’d levae, but I’m still here! Look at that typo! I can’t type!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:29 pm
Big Ray, don’t be so angry. We are prestigious organization that will continually improve slowly. My standards have been met. We did make the playoffs right Big Ray?
kirkinga
April 25th, 2009
10:32 pm
ray, I’m detecting lots of squish on the blog this evening.
It was a disgusting performance no doubt about it. Game 4 is a huge test for this team…players and coaches alike.
I think this series also has gone a long way in defining what a true superstar looks like and how his energy and performance raises his team’s level of play.
Continuing to lose by large margins on the road in the playoffs suggest to me that there is more than just a coaching problem going on. I would say the problems may have are both structural and constitutional.
But no squish here until the season is done.
Go Hawks!!
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:32 pm
Ric Sund,to answer your question,we went from an 8th seed and push Boston to 7 to this being a 4th seed and getting bounce by a 5th seed which should tell you the team is heading backwards what more do you want Rick Sund??
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:32 pm
Hey, Hawks Fans: the Montgomery County Circuit Court has just informed our law firm that Steve Belkin has withdrawn his case against ATLANTA SPIRIT GROUP. And you know what that means!! Game 5’s giveaway will be T-SHIRTS and THUNDERSTICKS after all!! It’s too late to add words or colors to the shirts, but if everyone RISES UP and wears these BLANK WHITE SHIRTS, I’m sure YOUR ATLANTA HAWKS will suddenly start playing like PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES!! LET’S GO HAWKS!!!
Bobby Cox
April 25th, 2009
10:32 pm
Don’t listen to em, Woodie! Pay them no mind! Like me!
kirkinga
April 25th, 2009
10:33 pm
they have, I should’ve said.
J.R. Rider
April 25th, 2009
10:35 pm
Miss me, dont ya?
*lights up*
WHO DIED......?
April 25th, 2009
10:35 pm
joe johndon=mirage
Harry Hawk
April 25th, 2009
10:35 pm
Can’t fire all the players, kirk. Just remember that.
bradsmitty
April 25th, 2009
10:38 pm
First, lol @ Rick Sund’s chick fila family night.
I agree with what E said earlier – it did not look like we were contesting very many shots at ALL and we continually allow Wade to get open looks.
It’s also very frustrating that we constantly hear the players and the head coach SAY all of the right things between games, only to then come out with lack of energy, lack of gameplan, and/or lack of execution, the very same things that they have just been talking about fixing. You can only talk the right way for so long. Eventually you have to come out and consistently show that you mean what you say.
It’s still only 2-1, but a lot of things have to turn around for us to have a chance at this point.
pinoy hawk
April 25th, 2009
10:38 pm
big ray,
Ok i saw the difference with the fake “big ray” posts. I apologize for the accusation.
My comments on the game:
1) woodson has low BB IQ. why not double team wade when it was obvious in game 2 that he abused one man coverage? fire woodson in the offseason!!
2) JJ has low BB IQ too. he keeps on dribbling to a congested paint!! drive and kick! not drive and turnover the ball! trade him!
3) aside from the pick and roll, we have no half court offense. keep pushing the ball! run run run!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:38 pm
Da Real Real,
This is not funny. We have much UPSIDE and these UNGRATEFUL fans need to realize that. As my SHOULD HAVE BEEN COACH OF THE YEAR said a few weeks ago “You fans expect too much!” It takes time to build a winner. Josh Smith has GREAT POTENTIAL and just think what he will be in a couple of years. He can already put on show. I just hope to see all you fans of this GREAT TEAM in the HIGHLIGHT FACTORY FOR A DECIDING GAME FIVE!! WE SHOCKED THE WORLD LAST YEAR BY JUST MAKING THE PLAYOFFS AND TAKING THE CELTICS TO SEVEN GAMES!!! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF WE DIDN’T WIN. BUT THIS YEAR WE WILL OWN THE WORLD, because after all we will just be HAPPY WITH BEATING MIAMI AND GETTING TO THE SECOND ROUND!!
WHO DIED......?
April 25th, 2009
10:41 pm
hawks should trade smith,play horford at PF,marvin at SF,johnson at SG,bibby at PG i guess if you keep him, and develop C and build bench, keep flip and mo evans, the rest can go
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:41 pm
I’m watching Kobe Byant and wonders did Joe Johnson consider himself an elite player in this league??
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:45 pm
Despite tonight’s STATS, this team still has incredible PERIMETER DEFENSE!! On practically every play, the Heat had to THINK TWICE before sinking another 3-POINTER. And YOUR ATLANTA HAWKS held the Heat to LESS THAN FIFTY 3-POINT BASKETS!! This TEAM EFFORT is just one STEPPING STONE to getting RESULTS in PLAYOFF BASKETBALL!!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:48 pm
Hawkman,What more do I want. I told you to JUST win the 2nd round. By the way stop talking about Joe Johnson, our LOUD OUTSPOKEN CAPTAIN, after all he is 3-time allstar. He also have good handles, don’t you notice that when it takes him 20 out 24 seconds to make his move and shoot that SMOOTH FLOATER OR RUNNER SHOT OF HIS. DON’T WE PAY HIM LIKE AN ELITE PLAYER? Watch him TAKEOVER in games 4 and 5.
ProudTechFan
April 25th, 2009
10:48 pm
i hate to say this but Dwayne Wade has taken over this series, He is unstoppable. Its funny how a superstar can completly take over an entire series. I saw Lebron do the same thing against the Pistons a couple of years ago, and watched D-Wade do it the year they won the title. When he is knocking down contested 3’s and knowing he is the most explosive to the basket than any other player in the league, he is just that harder to defend. You can blame whoever you want, but it comes down to a player like Dwayne Wade refusing to lose without a fight.. Gotta give a great player credit…
They are still my Hawks and i will never turn my back on them, I still believe they can win this series.But they are going to have to play team ball, and fight for every possession..
Go Hawks!!!!
scott
April 25th, 2009
10:49 pm
We came out of the gate SO STUPID. You have to lay that at Woody’s feet. He has to go. I’m sorry but it is what it is. This is the guy that preaches defense defense and more defense?? are you kidding me??
T-Mac
April 25th, 2009
10:50 pm
If The Hawks Lose, It’s On Me!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:50 pm
Correction I want to win in the first round. Second round is unrealistic with the youth on this team, but we have potential to get there.
Hi
April 25th, 2009
10:50 pm
Bottom line is this team has no leader, no superstar, no coach, and terrible home fans who dont even have Hawks jerseys. We need Artie Blank to buy the team and to rebuild
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:53 pm
Zaza Pachula is real soldier on this team. Did you see that SWOLLEN eye. He looke DRAGO in Rocky IV. We need to give him an EXTENSION.
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:53 pm
Hey bloggers who do you like in the Wade vs. Lebron matchup in round 2??
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:55 pm
The key to WINNING this series is WOODY’S OFFENSIVE SCHEME!! Once YOUR ATLANTA HAWKS buy into WOODY’S COACHING SYSTEM, we’ll be well on our way to WINNING A PLAYOFF ROAD GAME!! Now buy your Game 5 tickets NOW so we can FILL PHILIPS ARENA with LOUD, PASSIONATE FANS that WATCH THE GAME most of the time and even wear HEAVILY DISCOUNTED HAWKS MERCHANDISE so we can fix the video board and leaky roof!! LET’S GO HAWKS!!
Rick Sund
April 25th, 2009
10:55 pm
Hawkman, it depends on what JOE does in the rest of THIS series. I don’t want to answer questions like that now while the first round is going on. YOU KNOW YOU REALLY HAVE TO THROW JOE JOHNSON’S NAME INTO THE DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE MVP.
hawkman
April 25th, 2009
10:56 pm
Rick Sund you was GM with the Seattle Supersonics a team that don’t exist anymore.Will the Hawks suffer the same fate if you keep this up.