April’s Fools
Mike Woodson, Joe Johnson and the Hawks are scrambling to finish with a bang.
HAWKSVILLE - If this is some sort of sick belated April Fools’ prank Hawks, it’s not funny.
Three straight losses, now?
I know, it was three straight to playoff bound teams playing at a much higher level than the Hawks could as presently constituted (despite all the chatter to the contrary a healthy Marvin Williams would help).
But not now.
Not with everything (namely the fourth spot and the home court advantage in the first round of the playoffs that come with it) on the line.
It’s one of the more deflating stretches I’ve seen out of these Hawks this season. And there have been others.
Check the standings, though, and you’ll realize that now is hardly the time to start a tailspin.
Not even a glorious late Sunday morning brunch with the fam and neighbors at Highland Bakery could erase the stain of what I’ve seen from these Hawks the past week.
After a big time effort against the Los Angeles Lakers in a home win last Sunday, they’ve basically fallen apart before our eyes.
They couldn’t keep pace with 76ers late Tuesday night in Philadelphia (a team and city the Hawks could see a whole lot more of in the coming weeks). They suffered a similar fate Friday night in Boston in yet another loss to the Celtics.
For a while it appeared that they would use their home court mojo to end their slide Saturday night against Orlando … then they suddenly went cold and suffered the exact same sort of power failure in the second half against the Magic.
It’s a nasty trend that should worry you. Because no playoff team should be suffering these sorts of lapses with the postseason just days away.
Naturally, the Hawks aren’t ready to call this a code red just yet.
“You can’t go into panic mode,” Josh Smith said. “You just have to bounce back and try to get these games on the road and win out the rest of the season.”
Sure, it sounds good in theory.
But panic mode might be exactly the place the Hawks need to go to find refuge or at least some answers.
Josh Smith insists now is not the time to panic!
They haven’t met the physical or mental challenge of their opponents in a week, which is a clear indictment of not only the performance on the floor but also of the preparation that goes into every game.
The Hawks’ history of struggles on the road make this week’s road tests in Toronto and Milwaukee, on Tuesday and Wednesday, respectively, even more critical.
I’m going to close with a little ditty from one of our regulars (you probably know him as RA) who sends me regular emails throughout every game.
He made some interesting points about what he sees as some alarming developments after the Magic game:
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Melvin
April 7th, 2009
9:33 pm
Yes, Philly lose to the Bobcats….
doc
April 7th, 2009
9:33 pm
GLAD WE HAD A PROBLEM CALLED JOSH ON OUR SIDE TONIGHT!
still growing folks, still growing, just get the frig out of his way.
Ignition
April 7th, 2009
9:35 pm
I never understood why all the Josh hate..
He is the only Game Changing player on the team..
When Bibby, Joe, and Al have played like crap where is all the fuss..
Ball movement is very important but we have to have our guards committ to it..
I’ve also noticed when we get good inside play from from Josh and Al early it opens up the perimeter.
Big Ray
April 7th, 2009
9:37 pm
Good win on the road, although we SHOULD be beating teams that aren’t nearly good enough to make the playoffs. That’s #44 in the bag, with hopefully #45 coming up tomorrow night.
Nice games by Al, Josh, and Mo, with a good offensive addition by Zaza.
10 assists for Bibby. That’s such a rare treat from him, I can’t even get mad about his shooting percentage.
I see Joe managed to shoot enough times to reach 25 points. Took him 22 shots…
Interesting post game show comments. Mike “The Stinger” says how important it is to get Josh Smith touches on offense (especially early on) and let him get into a rhythm. He also mentioned that it’s easy to cringe and say “oh no, Josh!” when he lines up for an outside shot, but that he is DEVELOPING that shot, and when he’s hitting it, he’s playing on a whole other level. The Stinger goes went on to say that it won’t be like that every night right away, but he’s getting better, and has a set of skills that are unique to the PF position. He also said that’s one of the biggest keys to the Hawks winning in the playoffs.
Hmmmmm…..Josh haters (even you closet ones) will no doubt disagree and point out every single game he hasn’t done that. Ehhh…everybody needs a hobby.
Blast
April 7th, 2009
9:37 pm
Anybody wanna hate on Josh Smith now? Yeah, he makes boneheaded plays every game, but his upside far outweighs his downsize. And dude is still learning the game. Imagine if he starts hitting his jumper at a more consistent level, and making free throws? Watch out. I would have Josh on my team anyday.
Acie didn’t score, but nice to see him back. Waiting on Marvin now.
Blast
April 7th, 2009
9:38 pm
Philly lost. Miami down 4 in the fourth.
doc
April 7th, 2009
9:41 pm
dont forget woody, definitely coach of the game.
Melvin
April 7th, 2009
9:41 pm
Good balance attack for the Hawks tonite…7 players scored in double figures, 24 assists and only 7 turnovers…
DeadManWalking
April 7th, 2009
9:48 pm
The same Woody who couldnt answer a simple question after the game. They asked him if he made any defensive adjustments in the second half or if the players did it themselves. He said that the players rotated to the correct spots when they were supposed to. Obviously the man does not have a clue and didnt recognize a loaded question when he saw one. They asked who made the adjustments, him or the players. What a numbskull, he couldnt even answer the question straight. Obviously it was the players. The media saw it, the players saw it, everybody but the stinking coach saw it.
Big Ray
April 7th, 2009
9:53 pm
I see Philly lost again. Looks more and more like Miami will be our opponent.
Miami and New Orleans are really battling…
otisfirefly
April 7th, 2009
9:54 pm
Josh Smith is the best HAWKS player on NBA 2K9
otisfirefly
April 7th, 2009
9:55 pm
Just saying….
niremetal
April 7th, 2009
10:02 pm
Ray,
If you wanna nitpick about JJ taking too many shots, then you know that I won’t be able to resist pointing out that Josh only grabbed 7 boards in 46 minutes…right?
. In all seriousness, it does look like our frontcourt save for Al wasn’t rebounding too well. JJ and Bibby grabbed 12 boards between them, while Zaza only grabbed 1 (?!?). Mo is not a board crasher, but you want more than 4 boards out of your starting SF.
I actually didn’t watch much of the game so I don’t feel that I’m in a position to comment. The box score never tells the whole story. But it’s worth noting that it looks like Woody just transferred Mario’s minutes to Acie and otherwise stuck with the same 7-man rotation we’ve been using for the past month. At this point in the season, Woodson HAS to give his bench more burn than that, or else we’re toast in the first round regardless of who we play. Our frontline players will just be too exhausted.
Now back to studying, which will dominate my time for the next month…
otisfirefly
April 7th, 2009
10:02 pm
@ Big Ray……
Who would you rather have coaching the Hawks?
Woody
or
‘Nique
KevinA
April 7th, 2009
10:06 pm
No makes desperation ti take Miami into overtime. Big win by Hawks tonight. Who would have thought that Josh 3 shooting would seal the deal. Josh MVP. Hope Marvin gets in a few games before the play offs. Nice to see Acie back. Nice assist totals tonight, we seem to do better when we share the ball.
Blast
April 7th, 2009
10:11 pm
Now, I am not an advocate for Josh jacking up jumpers. He is way better taking it to the hole. But let’s analyze a few things.
Why does Josh keep jacking up jumpers? Why does he keep shooting the three ball when he shoots such a low percentage?
Maybe he makes those shots during practice and he feels he can knock them down. Same with free throws. Make em in practice but can’t make em in games because you are not focusing. And you have to wonder. Why do the guards keep passing the ball to Josh at the end of the clock, and when he is hanging out at the perimeter? Which bodes another question. Why does Josh hang out at the perimeter so much? He was effective there tonight, but expecting that from him nightly is fool’s gold.
Maybe the guards expect him to make that shot because they’ve seen him do it in practice. If that is true, the question then revolves all the way back to Josh then. He’s got mad skills. Mad hops. People have said he has zero basketball IQ, but I think that’s kind of harsh. I think he just has to work on his mental concentration, his focus, know when to go fast, hard, and know when to slow down. Know when to give the ball up on the break cos you gonna get it back at the rim. Work on his handle and post moves off season.
It’s pretty simple. If Josh eliminates his turnovers, he would have nothing but love on this blog, and believe me. If we don’t appreciate him, the ASG sure does. I believe Josh has what it takes to be a special player in this league. I didn’t say dominant, but special, because he has unique skills.
Ignition
April 7th, 2009
10:19 pm
Josh hangs on the perimeter because we have a “Coach” that hardle ever runs set plays..
We have a point guard that rarely penetrates to the basket and doesn’t lead his team in assist.
ISO plays for our SG require our PF to float and drift on the perimeter insted of on the baseline. (where he can get a rebound or drive to the basket)
Melvin
April 7th, 2009
10:21 pm
Heat lost. Hawks should be a lock for the 4th spot now….
Zach
April 7th, 2009
10:24 pm
Why is joe shooting at such a low clip. I’m glad that he got 25 because it seems like we win pretty consistently when he scores more than 20. He just has to be more aggressive and bibby has to keep looking for joe.
O'brien
April 7th, 2009
10:25 pm
I didn’t see the game, but from looking at the box score, and reading the comments, I’ll add a few of my own.
Good game by Bibby, 13 points and 10 assists. The bad thing is Calderon had 16 points, 13 assists. And I was surprised to see Josh played 47 minutes. I hope he can find the energy tomorrow.
JJ’s shooting percentage has been low the last few games. I hope he is able to regain his shooting stroke for the playoffs.
Miami lost, and Philly lost, so hopefully the Hawks can wrap up the 4th seed soon, so they can start resting some guys.
doc
April 7th, 2009
10:27 pm
nire, i dont think it was to compare josh to jj, it was about the number of shots to get his points. if you want to compare, look at the efficiency, josh 15 to get 25, jj his usual 22 shots to get 25. takes jj a lot of shots and minutes now a days to get his points.
Ignition
April 7th, 2009
10:29 pm
I don’t mind Josh shooting jumpshots as long and they are in the flow of the offense ..
I do mind him settling for jumpshots instead of taking them in rhythm (Dominique)..
Going inside should always be his first option, but the only way he will become a better jumpshooter is if he shoots.
Samuel
April 7th, 2009
10:36 pm
nir,
Yall been saying that all year yet here we are with a 3 game lead and 4 left. Who are the teams playing all these great players and where are they in the standings?
Ignition,
Again, the coach is not on the floor. Why is it that the Hawks move the ball sometimes and sometimes they don’t? Wonder why Woody keeps putting Bibby in the game late? It’s because he usually is the one who settles the team down and directs the ball movement.
Woody=COY
doc
April 7th, 2009
10:37 pm
ignition, josh ranks way down there in terms of taking shots from the outside in the flow of things this year behind jj, flip and bibby. seems like those guys tend to force it a bit much from time to time more so than josh. mo and marvin seem to be best in doing it in timely or “flow” situations than the three guards who keep pumping even when they are not showing any success at all.
KevinA
April 7th, 2009
10:42 pm
Calderon has low pay, a good guy to trade for? Bibby replacement?
RLP
April 7th, 2009
10:56 pm
The magic number to clinch the 4th seed is now 2.
It is interesting that the Hawks are only a game and a half behind Orlando based on home court records only. The Hawks are 29-10 while Orlando is 30-8. The big difference between the two teams is the road record. The Hawks are 15-24 while the Magic are 27-11. I have been advocating that we enjoy this season and not get wrapped up in looking ahead to next season. But winning on the road is really hard for the Hawks as well as all of the other other non-elite teams in the East who will be in the playoffs. I think the key is concentration. Concentration takes maturity. Unless the Hawks are able to make a blockbuster trade or surprise us with a top FA the only way to improvement is to learn on the road. Since I do not think the ASG is capable of financing either of those options then learning to win on the road based on a maturity level that takes time is the only way this team can really become competitive in the next few years.
doc
April 7th, 2009
11:01 pm
kevin dont go and stir up ando. supposedly he was in the works two summers ago and for some reason not acquired in a trade by bk or basg. now that they have sent ford packing he is the man only injured i think this year. it was one of the reasons they faltered coming out if the chute. doubt he is on the market.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 7th, 2009
11:02 pm
Miami and Philly both lost. I didn’t see the game so I don’t know how well the Hawks played, but tonight went a long way towards locking up that crucial #4 seed for the Hawks. Great to see 7 players in double figures — that tells me the ball was moving and the front court was involved, which is how the offense needs to be on a daily basis. Granted it was against one of the worst defensive teams in the league, but hey, you gotta start somewhere.
KevinA
April 7th, 2009
11:08 pm
Bibby making 14 million and with tight budgets we should be able to pick up at least equal talent with less money. Which in my opinion needs to go to Marvin, ZaZa, Flip and Acie. Maybe Solo? Maybe the tighter budgets will help us retain these guys also.
KevinA
April 7th, 2009
11:17 pm
Ya think Bibby would sign for 7 mill a year? Him and Marvin should be paid about the same. We can blame Josh higher pay on a better market. I would hope JJ would sign for the same money. We need cash for a big.
HB Ando
April 8th, 2009
12:01 am
doc, consider me unstirred. As far as I know, Calderon was never “in the works” for Billy and the Hawks. So to set the record straight, it wasn’t two years ago, it was over four. And the gist of my position was that I recommended to one of the Hawks owners, in an ongoing e-mail exchange, that they go snatch up Calderon, who was a back up to TJ Ford 4 years ago, as I felt strongly that he had tremendous upside as a Nash-like dime machine.
To be specific, here is a cut-and-paste from an e-mail exchange with Bruce Levenson, from December 19th, 2005, in which I make a few recommendations:
“You’ll need two more potential all-star big men for that task. Guys like Aldridge, Bargnani or Splitter. Maybe Nene. I’d also be happy if you pulled a 3-way with Indy and Toronto, sending Al, and netting Calderon and the Raptors’ ’07 first rounder. You guys are doing too well to expect you’ll get a realistic shot at Oden in the 07 draft, so Phoenix will likely get that pick. Toronto is as solid a candidate as anyone to pick first in ’07. Add Calderon and Aldridge, and, really, any of the top five talent projected in the ’07 draft (but obviously the next great big man in Oden), and the Hawks will be a force to be reckoned with for the next ten years. Acquiesce to the financial and fan-driven pressures to win a few more games this season, and mediocrity will be the likely future.”
No point in crying over spilled milk, when now, in 2009, we’re a reasonable bet to make it to the second round. But it doesn’t have to be hindsight to see some of the moves that could have been made by this franchise, besides the obvious draft misses, that would have led to us being even better than we are at this time.
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
1:11 am
Ray, the HAWKS!!!!…the Hawks!!!…The Hawks????…what in the world have they won before Woody arrived?…and a two year extension is not a reward, it’s actually embarrassing. He earned it…by the way, the guy who left (Knight) deserves allot of credit as well for Bibby, Joe, Marvin, Josh and Al however he made some HUGE and unforgiveable mistakes as well (Sheldon, Marvin vs. CP3 or Deron, Speedy, Acie, Salim, and I can go on and on). Woody has coached ‘em up as they say. it’s not just Woody, it’s the entire coaching staff (Bender, Drew, JT, Ty Hill, etc.). They ONLY get better and better every year. It’s a process. Players play, Coaches coach and the front office gets Woody some freakin players. If we had a bench like the teams in front of us the sky would be the limit. By th way, except for Josh he has not lost these players and they still play hard for him.
Big Ray I get you and your little buddies are confused however Sekou you don’t have an excuse or do you?…Good win for the Hawks on the road tonight and I’ll be rooting for them tomorrow night against Milwaukee…while you all keep coach hatin….
Big Ray
April 8th, 2009
2:18 am
Otisfirefly,
Damn, man. Those are the only choices I get? Alright, check this out. I’ll ask you a rhetorical question: which of the two choices you gave me are the players more likely to listen to? Think about it….
Snowman,
Ummmm….how far do you want to go back? Either you just started watching them 6 years ago, or you have amnesia. This team has taken five years to get to a winning record under Woodson. No other coach has taken that long to win with this team since it landed in Atlanta in ‘68. I’ll tell you why no coach has ever taken that long. Because they were all fired before it got that far. Billy tried to fire Woody. The seven dwarves wouldn’t let him. End of story.
Now, the players have matured and gotten better. Sund added a few of his own, two of which have been a big help, the others don’t get playing time. We limped into the playoffs last year with a losing record. I was glad we made it, but I’m calling it what it was: a limp. Good thing Indiana choked when they did, because they had us dead to rights and we were losing games that we should have won (like to a 15-win Miami team that had NOTHING to play for).
Pardon me if I don’t join you on that creaky thing you call a bandwagon. I’d rather see back-to-back winning seasons with this guy at the helm first.
Oh, and if you think the two-year extension was an insult, then why did Woody sign it? Oh,I can tell you, but you aren’t going to like what I say.
I have my own issues with ownership/management. They certainly have their problems, although I’m still on the fence about Sund.
And I see you’re likley another closet Josh hater. If you think Woody has lost Josh, then you haven’t read the articles or watched these guys in the huddles. Hell, it’s the veteran players that are looking everywhere but AT HIM in the huddle…
Big Ray
April 8th, 2009
2:26 am
Snowman,
One more thing. I’ll give Woody credit for getting these guys to play hard. But they ARE pros, and most of them have a good work ethic anyway. So it’s not like he’s some puppetmaster who has his hand up there butts, and they won’t do anything without him. Woody does a passable job. When faced with a plethora of injuries, he gets creative with his bench…for a few games anyway. We could have a worse coach, I’ll give you that. But he’s no Messiah on the sideline, sorry.
But I have to laugh when you talk about the bench. So are you telling me that if we had a “better” bench, we’d be much better than we are now? So if management would just get him some good players, we’d be elite? Well, whatever happened to “coaching up” the guys he has? Wouldn’t a “good” coach be able to do that? I mean, you DID say “Woody coached ‘em up, and they get better and better every year” did you not? Huh.
By the way, I agree that Billy Knight made some errors with some picks. But as I recall, it was your genius Woody who said Chris Paul was too small, and Deron Williams was too slow. And that was back then when Billy and Woody were “tight”, so you know they talked their draft picks out together…
Snowman is an Idiot
April 8th, 2009
2:29 am
…….yup, and Salim plays for the Bucks you moron. Also plenty of people hyped Flip up before the season started(Well, Mainly Ariose). Speedy, Acie, Salim…..they don’t suck we just have an mantally challenged coach. Get your info straight man. You must have just stated watching the Hawks two seasons ago or something. If Boston Had Acie Law instead of Rondo they’d still win 50+ games…..
Snowman is an Idiot
April 8th, 2009
2:34 am
Last time I checked, Claxton alredy had a championchip Ring and played a significant role in earning it……
Samuel
April 8th, 2009
7:00 am
Ando,
Didn’t we just beat two of those “potential” allstars? And who the heck is Splitter?
“I love you, you love me, I don’t post I shoot the three”.
Thank God for the big Purple Raptor “jackn” them threes.
So much for the 7′ theory. Rube Paul and Barney suck.
Woody=COY
Mike is back
April 8th, 2009
8:31 am
Thanks Big Ray and Doc,
Yeah haters…You no what is it…Tha no what it is… You no what is it…Tha
no what it is…Josh will continue to shove crow in the mouth of his detractors.
GO JOSH AND GO
HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike is back
April 8th, 2009
8:32 am
Thanks Big Ray and Doc,
Yeah…You no what is it…Tha no what it is… You no what is it…Tha
no what it is…Josh will continue to shove crow in the mouth of his detractors.
GO JOSH AND GO
HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hawk's hawk
April 8th, 2009
8:47 am
Where all the JOSH haters now, seems like yall always quiet, even though, he’s been the best hawks player the last couple of games. JJ is starting to suck it up alot lately, he acting like bibby, just shoot cause u the star. Yea Josh had 7 rebs, not like toronto has 6′8 power fowards. bosh had 10 broads. Josh makes mistakes just like everyone else on the team, JJ throws the ball or loses it just as much most nites and he’s the star. Josh gives u energy more than JJ (unless his shot is falling). Good game HAWKS, better game by the Hawks bigs though, still fire woody right after the playoffs over with and get a new pg for alot cheaper.
GO HAWKS
Mike is back
April 8th, 2009
8:52 am
sorry for the double post.lol
Samuel, I have always admired Woody as a person, I think he is a class act. I would have no problem if Woody won COY. He coached a hellava of game last night. I like that line-up with Flip, JJ, Moe, Josh, and AL going down the stretch that was a good adjustment. However, like the young Hawks he will have to continue to grow. Besides, I think that guy in Cleveland got COY lock down.
If he adopt a new offensive philosophy that take of advantage of youth, length, and athleticism of his team, than yes he could reach that plateau one day.
Astro Joe
April 8th, 2009
9:19 am
Once again, for all of the Woody haters (who far out-number the Joe haters, Josh haters and Gardner haters), Woody’s TEAM has maintained the 4th seed for at least 3 months now. The hype around the 76ers has died down after they proved that they too have weeds, brown spots and crab grass all over their lawn. And the same is true of the Heat. With perfect health and perfect coaching the Hawks could have surely won more games…. but name a team that could not benefit from perfect coaching and perfect health.
You guys should REALLY try very, very hard to enjoy this ride. I mean, when was the last time we saw a Hawks team in a position to lose the 4th seed (as opposed to trying to over-take it in the last few games of the season)? This is a freakin’ treat…. why not enjoy it?
Ignition
April 8th, 2009
9:52 am
Oh, I will not let up on Woody as long as his offense is so offensive so many nights..
JJ and Biddy are great when there shots are falling, but when Bibby or JJ are cold from the outside, whats the next option for the team?
Why aren’t there more sets for our forwards and center.?
Why when matched up against bigger teams aren’t we running more driving to the paint or pushing the ball up the floor? (No reason for Al to be trying to post up against Dwight Howard or Philly’s Bigs when he could have driven past them.
Why isn’t Al or Josh not an option offensively they play well of each other..?
otisfirefly
April 8th, 2009
10:42 am
For all the whiners and haters out there, it’s official. Tonight’s starting lineup:
Acie Law
Flip Murray
Marvin Williams(hurt back & all)
R Morris
Solo Jones
Head Coach – Mark Price
Enjoy the game guys!
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
10:57 am
Snowman is an idiot, you are right Salim joined the Bucks April 3rd after being released by the Spurs October 23rd of last year. No one has picked him up until last week (P-A-L-E-E-Z-E!). You were also right that Speedy played 30 games with the Spurs (I can’t believe we are talking about Speedy) and they did win the NBA Championship that year. He was gone the next year (smile)…hhhmmmm…Salim, I am still laughing at how coach was suppose to coach him up?…Him and Acie are pretty much the same guy right, c’mon?…
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
11:14 am
Big Ray, yes I have been watching them from Washington D.C. for the last 6 years. I like the Hawks and I like what coach has done and is doing with them. So yes, guilty as charged…I am a Hawk and Mike Woodson fan. He has been steady and their record has been improving year to year. they represent the city of Atlanta with Class and Style (with pro athletes in trouble from time t time the Hawks have been scandal free over these 5 years…with young players at that).
They remind me of the Pistons of several years ago except the Pistons bench was incredible (and of course that is where coach came from)…Okur, Corliss Williamson, Elden Campbell, Mike James and Lindsey Hunter!!! This starting team, when healthy, is long and athletic like those guys were however our bench is NOT CLOSE and one of the worst in the league in my opinion. As a result coach has had to rely on the tight rotation that he has. By the way, the acquisition of Rasheed Wallace put that Piston team over the top. The point there is our front office has NOT made moves like that at the deadline or any other time, do you agree?…
To another point, Billy tried to fire Woody for the same reason Grunfeld fired Eddie Jordan here in D.C. to keep folks off of his back and to buy him more time. Mike was very loyal to Billy and it appears that Billy threw Mike under the bus and the owners chose Mike. Although coach and GM discuss the draft all the time it is ultimately the GM’s decision. As I remember we were forward heavy back then when Marvin was drafted (Harrington, Chill and Josh) and what we really needed was a point guard or center.
Finally, the two picks Sund made were solid but there was no buzz about either and in fact, if Flip was so good why had he been on 5 different teams over 5 different seasons?…I would have wanted us to sign Roger Mason Jr. and Kwame Brown (crazy I keep saying that…smile) but I am so, so glad we have Flip. However we needed and need another BIG to help Horford and company.
One more point I LOVE JOSH’S TALENT!!!!!….Period…however I wish Josh had gone to college a year or would be open to listening. he makes the same mistakes an plays the same why year after year…month after month…if he would just follow the coaches orders…look Allen Iverson has been my favorite player over the last 13 years and just think how MUCH better he would have been if he listened to any of his coaches (except John Thompson). Pound for pound the most talented little guy out there however he too is UNCOACHABLE…I just don’t want Josh to become that guy.
So this is not a coaching thing…this is a organizational thing…love the Hawks, love Woody and love Josh…less hate and more positive Karma as we enter these Playoffs as a 4th seed and home court advantage!!!!…Appreciate what is happening here in Atlanta and let’s put more pressure on the front office to get coach more help next year…Ray you seem like you get it unlike “Snowman is an idiot”…hope the Hawks win tonight against the Bucks…may “Snowman is an idiot’s” boy Salim might torch the Hawks tonight (now I can’t stop laughing!!!)…
Write positive stuff Sekou, you have it in you I love your stuff! You, of all people, know this team is overachieving and really is not that talented to win consistently on the road yet however they have 29 home victories and have swept the Pistons this season…I know Woody has to like that (smile)…
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
11:16 am
Big Ray, yes I have been watching them from Washington D.C. for the last 6 years. I like the Hawks and I like what coach has done and is doing with them. So yes, guilty as charged…I am a Hawk and Mike Woodson fan. He has been steady and their record has been improving year to year. they represent the city of Atlanta with Class and Style (with pro athletes in trouble from time t time the Hawks have been scandal free over these 5 years…with young players at that).
They remind me of the Pistons of several years ago except the Pistons bench was incredible (and of course that is where coach came from)…Okur, Corliss Williamson, Elden Campbell, Mike James and Lindsey Hunter!!! This starting team, when healthy, is long and athletic like those guys were however our bench is NOT CLOSE and one of the worst in the league in my opinion. As a result coach has had to rely on the tight rotation that he has. By the way, the acquisition of Rasheed Wallace put that Piston team over the top. The point there is our front office has NOT made moves like that at the deadline or any other time, do you agree?…
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
11:18 am
Big Ray, yes I have been watching them from Washington D.C. for the last 6 years. I like the Hawks and I like what coach has done and is doing with them. So yes, guilty as charged…I am a Hawk and Mike Woodson fan. He has been steady and their record has been improving year to year. they represent the city of Atlanta with Class and Style (with pro athletes in trouble from time t time the Hawks have been scandal free over these 5 years…with young players at that).
Snowman is an Idiot
April 8th, 2009
11:19 am
Snowman, we shall see sir…..The proof will be in the Pudding. It may take a while to get a good taste but I shall remeber this conversation When acie and Salim start tearing it up in the future……and maybe speedy too lol.
Snowman
April 8th, 2009
11:19 am
More you Ray…
They remind me of the Pistons of several years ago except the Pistons bench was incredible (and of course that is where coach came from)…Okur, Corliss Williamson, Elden Campbell, Mike James and Lindsey Hunter!!! This starting team, when healthy, is long and athletic like those guys were however our bench is NOT CLOSE and one of the worst in the league in my opinion. As a result coach has had to rely on the tight rotation that he has. By the way, the acquisition of Rasheed Wallace put that Piston team over the top. The point there is our front office has NOT made moves like that at the deadline or any other time, do you agree?…