Game time!

HAWKSVILLE - With the Hawks’ point guard ranks thinning by the hour, it might be time for desperate measures with the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers invading Philips Arena for the weekend.

It might be time for the Hawks to locate Speedy's No. 12 jersey!

Who is this unmasked man?

And desperate measures means a Speedy Claxton sighting – not necessarily in the game but at least in uniform for the first time in nearly two years.

Tony Parker’s shredding of the Hawks’ defense Wednesday night proved that a point guard that can guard another lightning quick point guard is definitely needed. And with Acie Law IV out with an ailing back, the Hawks have to go somewhere for relief.

Mario West saw spot duty and played well. And Flip Murray tried his hand at slowing Parker down but got into foul trouble and was needed more for his offense than anything else. Might Claxton, were he to actually suit up and possibly play, be the answer?

Hey, it can’t hurt anything. After all, the man is on the payroll. Claxton says he’s healthy. Why not give him a shot and see if he can give your team a spark? 

Who knows, he might actually slow Rajon Rondo down for the first a second or two. It would be the first time that’s happened since the Hawks and Celtics locked horns in the playoffs last year. And it’s something the Hawks desperately need to be able to do if they have any chance of beating the Celtics tonight.

There’s no guarantee it happens. But it’s at least worth thinking about considering the Hawks’ depth issues at point guard right now.

KG + STARBURY = LOVE

The Celtics’ arrival also brings former Georgia Tech star Stephon Marbury back to town for the first time this year (he missed those trips with the Knicks due to his estranged relationship with the team before he was jettisoned and allowed to link up with the Celtics).

While some people love to take shots at Marbury for all the drama that has transpired the past couple of years, at least one of his former and now current teammates, is showing him major love.

Celtics superstar Kevin Garnett praised Marbury, per my main man Marc Spears of the Boston Globe.

“Steph’s leadership has been sort of questioned and damaged if y ou will. But once a leader, always a leader,” KG told Spears and other reporters in Boston. ” I’ve told a lot of the young guys that haven’t seen a lot of Steph, I thought we got a steal in grabbing him. His different relationships with different ball clubs is a thing of the past. If you look at some of the guys on this team, they haven’t always had the best reps. We deal with each other on how we deal with each other. He fits right in. Not only is he versatile, but people forget that Steph was one of the premier guards in this league for a while.

“Other than him not playing for a year, we all expect good things out of him. He expects a lot of big things out of himself. He works extremely hard. You just don’t be the (man) from a point guard standpoint all them years of being who you are, obviously the facts are there, but you just don’t become that. You get that through hard work, watching film. I know dude and what kind of drive he has inside. I think he is going to help us in the long run. He’s definitely different from what everyone sees and their perception of him. But you make your bed, you lay in it. I’m not trying to defend him, nothing like that. But he’s a different soul. It’s about repetition, getting it down and moving forward.”

You talking to me KG?

You talking to me KG?

Garnett is only expected to play limited minutes, something like the first seven to eight minutes of each half (per my man Stevie “Crickets” Bulpett of the Boston Herald).

That means the Hawks will almost certainly need to start both the first and third quarters with their big boy lineup of Zaza Pachulia, Al Horford and Josh Smith with Smith dealing with Paul Pierce at small forward.

It’s not even a gamble in my eyes. It’s a necessity. Garnett, even in small doses, is enough to warrant a tweak in the lineup. Besides, Pachulia’s played well in whatever role that’s been asked of him this season. And with his history with the KG, it might not be a bad idea to have him on the floor early to see if he can disrupt what the Celtics might have in store.

More importantly, those lineups add more sizzle to this rivalry (I don’t care what Rondo says, this is a rivalry to me if only because both teams despise each other). And with the weather as lousy as it is today, I’ll take sizzle anywhere I can get it.

255 comments Add your comment

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
10:47 am

I don’t want to keep beating a dead horse, but that horse keeps coming back to life. Woodson makes a key decision and inserts MWest into a gm at a critical point and we go on a 7gm home winning streak. Suddenly, for reasons only known to him, he reverts back to his old habit of ignoring his bench and overplaying his starters. The results of this move are the same as they’ve always been. We starting playing inconsistently, poorly, especially on DEF, and we start losing.

Along with the shortened rotation, Woodson stops even trying to coach, or making decisions, and just stands on the sidelines with arms folded barking at his players and the refs. It’s telling how Doc Rivers plays Marbury, who was recently acquired, significant mins in crucial situations in order to see how he can best help a team that’s NBA Champions. Yet, Woodson refuses to play Acie Law significant mins or in crucial situations even though he’s been on the team 2yrs and we could really use his talents.

This Acie Law thing is a personal issue with Woodson, like it was with SStaudamire. Yes, MWest is an excellent DEF player, but so is Acie. MWest provides a lot of hustle and athleticism, but little in the way of OFF. He’s unable to make it easier for his teammates to score. Acie is quicker, faster, a better passer, ballhandler, shooter and penetrator than West. Yet, Woodson will use West at PG before he’ll use Acie. One things certain, MWest will never be the replacement at PG for Bibby if he isn’t resigned. Acie Law could or should be, yet Woodson has steadfastly refused to allow him the opportunity to prove what he can do.

IT’S LIKE WOODSON IS TRYING TO PROTECT BIBBY, AND GET THE SAASG TO HIM RESIGNED. TO DO SO, HE WON’T GIVE ACIE THE CONSISTENT MINS AND/OR OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHAT THIS TEAM CAN DO WITH HIM AT THE HELM. IF WOODSON GIVES ACIE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE LIKE HE DID IN COLLEGE AND DURING THE PRESEASON, AND HE PRODUCES, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO PRESUADE THE SAASG TO RESIGN BIBBY. WE ALL KNOW WOODSON’S OBSESSION WITH VETERANS, ESPECIALLY VET PG’S, NO MATTER HOW LIMITED THEY MIGHT BE, AND HIS DISDANE FOR YOUNGER PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PG’S, NO MATTER HOW TALENTED THEY MIGHT BE.

Samuel

March 28th, 2009
10:53 am

I actually turned the game off in the 3rd so I missed the comeback.
I still stand by my prediction that the Hawks will hold the 4th seed and advance to the 2nd round.

We lost to a better team period. Yes, they were without “1 HOF” player but they still had two. Also, don’t forget that Glen Davis was considered the best player in the nation before his injury. Remember how he schooled a pretty good player in Lamarcus Aldridge in the final four? The guy is finally healthy so Boston got a steal. KG’s absence has really given him the opportunity to shine.

Joe, i’m with you man on JJ. It’s really getting hard for me to watch him “pound” the ball and hold it too long. I really think he’s arrogant and hard to coach. The ball moves when he’s out so it aint the coaching, it’s him. I really think it’s time to move him. I say again, if we can get two starters for him. Let’s do it. Ellis wants out of Golden State and Turiaf would be a good shot blocker and enforcer that we need. Only problem is Josh at the 3. He can’t do it. We would have to move Josh too.

Mike Brown will win COY but Woody will receive votes. Possibly finish second or third.

Woody=COY

Elijah

March 28th, 2009
11:09 am

How the hell is Woody a COY candidate? Yes he’s gotten better, but he cannot pump our team up for a Friday night sell-out game against a “rival.” How can this team look so flat? Let the freaking bench play. We need Joe and Bibs legs for the playoffs (no homo)

Samuel

March 28th, 2009
11:23 am

Because we finished with 37 wins last year and an 8th seed. This year we will finish in the 4th spot.

You don’t rest players until you lock up the 4th seed. From what I hear, we came within a few points of winning,as bad as we played. That’s why you don’t rest starters. When we lock down the 4th spot, we can clear the bench for a couple of games. that’s plenty of rest.

Woody=COY

rms

March 28th, 2009
11:28 am

Dang, Samuel you actually admit that Woodson wont win COY. Thats impressive!! Although, I have to agree with Ken Strickland’s previous comments. With the cheap ownership we have, its obvious they are not major players in the free agent market and giving Bibby max money is out of the question. The only logical thing to do was to properly groom Acie Law to take over next season so you wont be forced to spend a lot of money. Yes, he is suffering lower back pains now (probably from sitting on the bench for so long) and he cant play, but there were plenty of times during the beginning and middle of the season when he wasnt hurt and would go several games without playing for reasons unknown. That is the only knock I have on Woodson, not adaquately playing Law to get him ready for next season because we all know our cheap owners wont resign Bibby, and not using guys like Mario and Solo just as a defensive presence to grab rebounds, block shots, slow down quicker guards, foul the heck out of a guy for consistently driving in lane to protect your starters from foul trouble. This first-round series will be interesting to watch, because it helps a lot when you go into the playoffs with a little momentum. Thats just my opinion! AND NO, I AM NOT BEING NEGATIVE, JUST HONEST!!

Fred

March 28th, 2009
11:32 am

Samuel

March 28th, 2009
11:48 am

Elijah,

Why end your post (no homo). Nobody here suggested that you were. If you are, it’s ok?
rms, I don’t really know that he won’t but realistically, Brown should win and Aderman and Woody should finish 2nd and 3rd. Had we played better in the last few games, he would have a better chance but he should be in the top 3. But he still has done a good job.

On Acie, I really think he should have played more too but Woody saw otherwise. If Acie is the answer, he’ll get his chance. Nobody can hold a good player down. We’ll see.

Woody=COY

Tree Rollins

March 28th, 2009
12:41 pm

How can u say he gets rebounds sometimes…..he had 11 and is second in rebs per game behind our center. I was at the game last night and only saw once where josh went for a steal and did not get it…this is what help defense is for ….. except he is the only one that plays help defense so if his man gets through there is no one there. He often comes up with that steal and provides a spark for the team which is what he is best at doing. He had 3 turnovers so im not sure of these countless bonehead plays you speak of and was 8-17 from the field…..so yes he did miss some shots but thats a pretty good percentage. If you expect a player to make every shot he takes your gonna be dissapointed. I think peoples main problems with your post Elijah is that you continue to disregard everyone else terrible performances and continue to focus on Josh, on a night where he played well, which simply shows you have some sort of dislike towards him and will never approve any performance….this as a hawks fan is annoying. Joe is a great player who didnt play well ton…..but u would never dare mention that….Al was 3-12 from the field and u knock Josh’s 8-17…if u are a hawks fan support the whole team and quite being so negative and if u want to avoid everyone disagreeing with you constantly quite acting like josh stole your girlfriend or something and quite hating.

Sautee

March 28th, 2009
12:59 pm

Samuel,

Good job keepin’ it real. And I’m right there with you on moving Joe.

I will take issue with this statement of yours: “You don’t rest players until you lock up the 4th seed.”

Sam, did you happen to notice that Popovich (4 NBA titles) rested Duncan against us despite the fact that the Western Conference race couldn’t be tighter? The Spurs have less margin behind them than we do.

Sorry man, but if your COY had more confidence, he could find some rest for JJ and Bibby. He’s coaching scared again, just like last year.

Nate ArchiBALL

March 28th, 2009
1:36 pm

Woody’s offense:
Starting point guard Mike Bibby played 38:54 with a total of 2 assists
Joe “BallHog” Johnson played 40:04 with a total of 4 assists.
I would guess that between the two them, they controlled the ball 60 to 65 percent of the shot clock and only six assists,,,,,,wow. The sad thing thing is that zero adjustments were made by Woody once the game started…….and why did he start Za Za?
Since Woody is looking for help in the middle after only 73 games (my assumption on why Zsa Zsa started) logically the next move by Spock..I mean Woody….. will be to start Solo on against the Lakers

Gilley

March 28th, 2009
1:56 pm

I may just start coming to the Hawks game because I have grew tiresome of Dominique as a commentator (Grrrr) and why is Josh Smith being bashed in this blog when he played the best and most consistent. Yes he takes bad shots and make mistakes but we must realize he is not a Superstar player and will have a perfect game. He plays off of athleticism and energy and my gosh when he is playing well we have great chances. That “big lineup” was terrible because ZaZa was a little man who was getting pounded by Perkins and Glen Davis and Josh Smith was busy checking Paul Pierce.

I dont want to sound like the typical fan and point fingers but I just feel our starters are too tired to finish games and the wrong people play bad at the wrong times. Mike Woodson said “C’mon Joe.” When Joe Johnson got into foul trouble and initially didn’t want to come out the game…Had that been another player……You get my point. But Woodson needs to be willing to make adjustments and the Hawks need to practice playing out of the double team. What happened to the screen or pick and pop with JJ and Bibby..Especially if his (Bibby’s) shot is falling.

We couldnt play inside out because AL wasn’t playing well..ZaZa was getting out played. Bibby’s defense was terrible during certain stretches and runs, and Mario West defense would have been great in certain situations. Let Gardner get some time to see if he can hit open 3s from the JJ doubles. Its like try something new if its not working Woodson.

Hopefully Kobe’s ankle is not 100% and we can get a steal at home against the Lakers but with Mike Woodson calling the shots, I wont hold my breath. SIGH

Gilley

March 28th, 2009
1:57 pm

**Yes he [JOSH SMITH] takes bad shots and make mistakes but we must realize he is not a Superstar player and will not have a perfect game.**

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
2:00 pm

SAUTEE-well stated, I couldn’t have stated it better. Woodson is so caught up with himself and his obcession with doing it his way, he can’t see the correlation between using the bench, resting his key players and playing uptempo basketball, and us playing excellent DEF, playing consitently and winning. He insists on coaching scared, as you said, ingoring his bench and overplaying his starters, despite the obvious fact we start playing inconsistently, playing poor DEF and losing regularily whenever he does that.

In 1963 I witnessed one of the greatest football gms I’ve ever seen. It was between FAMU(Florida A&M Univ) and TSU(Tenn State Univ). That was during segregation when FAMU got most of the Black players that now make Miami, Fla State and Florida national powers. They had “Bullit” Bob Hayes(the worlds fastest human) and Bobby Felts(one of the worlds fastest humans) in their backfield, with rocket armed Tillis, another speedster, as their QB. TSU had a kick/punt returner named Nolan “SUPER GNAT” Smith, that later starred for the KC Chiefs. Nolan had been killing FAMU all day with his dynamic kick and punt returns. FAMU scored a TD and took the lead near the end of the gm. Instead of kicking away from Smith and forcing them to score from scrimmage, Gaither dared Nolan Smith to beat him and kicked the ball directly to him. Needless to say, Nolan did what he’d done all afternoon. He ran that kickoff down FAMU’s throat and won the gm for TSU.

THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF BLIND STUBBORNESS, ARROGANCE AND/OR STUPIDITY WE’RE ALL SEEING FROM WOODSON. I’VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I’LL SAY IT AGAIN. WE’RE NOT WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF WOODSON, BUT IN SPITE OF HIM.

Elijah

March 28th, 2009
2:12 pm

“Woodson makes a key decision and inserts MWest into a gm at a critical point and we go on a 7gm home winning streak. Suddenly, for reasons only known to him, he reverts back to his old habit of ignoring his bench and overplaying his starters.”

1) We are playing the best teams in the NBA now, not NOK or Jazz (both great teams but not championship contenders).

2) Mario sucks. No offensive presence at all except for 1 dunk this year, and is OK at defense

3) Woodson is trying to keep his job

$k19$

March 28th, 2009
2:31 pm

$k19$

March 28th, 2009
2:32 pm

RaJaH

March 28th, 2009
2:55 pm

Why would it matter if Mario is not an offensive presence when JJ and/or Bibby will continue to dominate the ball?

DOC

March 28th, 2009
3:16 pm

Sekou, for the 4th time, WHAT ARE THE CONTRACT IMPLICATIONS IF SPEEDY PLAYS? IS HE IN GOOD SHAPE? SOMEONE HELP ME

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
3:16 pm

Hey Ya’ll,

My family is moving to Canada.

Quitting this place.

Bye

The Truth

March 28th, 2009
3:55 pm

Good Luck Ray and Godspeed!

Does that mean you are a Toronto Raptors fan now? :)

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
4:22 pm

ELIJAH-I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we were losing to sub 500 teams like the Kings, Bobcats and Knicks before the MWest move and the 7gm winning streak. If Woodson is just trying to save his job, why does he continue reverting to the same stupid self serving decisions that keeps getting us the same negative results? Playing inconsistently, playing poor DEF and losing aren’t results that create job security. Every single time he’s expanded his rotation and allowed the team to play uptempo, we’ve played better DEF, played and won far more consistently, and ususlly go on winning streaks.

HE’S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT EVERYONE WANTS HIM TO ACCOMPLISH, AND THAT’S TO WIN. HOWEVER, HE WANTS TO DO IT HIS WAY, AND HIS WAY ALONE, EVEN IF HIS WAY ISN’T THE BEST WAY FOR HIS TEAM OR HIS PLAYERS.

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
4:25 pm

I apologize for mispelling your name ELIJAH.

Banks

March 28th, 2009
4:36 pm

I was at the game last night and a couple of things I do not understand. 1) With a front line of Moore and Davis and limited reserves on the bench for Boston, why did’nt the Hawks take the ball to the whole, Also Why Josh and AL were not posting up and taking advantage of these mis matches. This is a coaching problem. I hope Woody corrects this before the playoffs. 2) How come Woody does not take up for his players. He does the worst job at working the officials. His guys get foul and he does not say anything. Contrary to Doc Rivers who you can visably see taking up for his players. That is why his players respect him and play hard every night despite having a host of injuries. Intensity starts from the top and Woody has take up for his players and have a better feel for the game. He could take some lessons from Bobby Cox and Mike Smith. Lastly whats up Rod good talking to you last night and you to Pee Wee. I hope you change your tune on Marvin Williams.

Elijah

March 28th, 2009
5:28 pm

Ken, we lost to those teams on the road. In case you didn’t realize, we can’t win on the road.

Mario has had maybe 2 good games this year, one of them being the Jazz game where he was 2-4 from the FT line. Once we get some legit backup bigs like the Celts have, THEN we will get better. To have Leon Powe, Marbury, Big Baby, Mikki Moore, and Eddie House off your bench is not fair, when all we have is Flip and Othello Hunter

Elijah

March 28th, 2009
5:35 pm

What I want to see before the playoffs:

1) Speedy return…This is the guy Bibby said before the year is “one of the best” and who is a top 5 defensive PG when healthy

2) Joe and Bib’s minutes get drastically reduced. In other words, we need to clinch this #4 spot soon and then get these guys in the jacuzi for the next 3 weeks and get ZaZa more minutes. If we have to play Mario, then so be it. But we need to get ZaZa more minutes. He has one of the best contracts in the league for a non-rookie, so don’t let him rot there

3) Let Morris get some minutes. Yes, he’s lazy. Yes, he looks spaced out. But he’s our biggest player and he can rebound the ball. I don’t trust Foulomon Jones in the game.

4) We need Duck to return and probably come off the bench.

5) Why do we have to have big lineups when we can just put Joe at the 3 and Mo at the 2?

6) Woodson and Joe and maybe even Bib and Flip need to get in the refs’ ears more as the playoffs approach and let them know that they screw us over every game and that when we play Cleveland int he 2nd round we demand a SEMI-fair series (anyone see that BS flagrant call on Collins on LeBron last night? Collins put his arm sideways, LeBron runs into it, and everyone acts like he just choked him or clotheslined him)

7) Joe pass the ball more

8) Posting up (Horford stop taking stupid shots)

9) Wow Smoove made it this far….Stop taking jumpshots, stop dribbling. Only go for layups, and do not post up. You have no idea where you shoot from, you can’t pass, and you can’t play Man D. In other words, don’t commit turnovers, and go for freaking rebounds instead of just waiting for the ball to come to you. You are not a post player or a basketball palyer for that matter–just an athlete. OMG ELIJAH HE SCORED 22 LAST NIGHT YOU’RE AN IDIOT

Flappin' Hawk

March 28th, 2009
5:49 pm

Unfortunatly the Hawks will finish the season losing 11 of their final 13 games. Obviously without Marvin this team just does not have the ability to compete with the big boys or on the road against anyone. The Hawks are a team that needs every piece in place to be a legit threat…we lose 1 starter and we’re cooked. Mo is terrific but not a starter, he is Chills Part 2.

PutBack

March 28th, 2009
5:51 pm

Flapp-
Lose 11 out of the last 13? No way.

Flappin' Hawk

March 28th, 2009
5:53 pm

Look at the schedule. It’s gonna be tough without Marvin and Acie. JJ leading the league in minutes. We could drop to the 6th spot easily.

PutBack

March 28th, 2009
5:55 pm

No doubt, schedule is brutal.

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
5:58 pm

ELIJAH-you just killed your argument that Woodson is just trying to save his job. REFUSING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR TEAMS STRENGTHS, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR OPPONENTS WEAKNESSES ISN’T THE KIND OF COACHING THAT CREATES JOB SECURITY. REFUSING TO DEVELOP YOU BENCH, ESPECIALLY YOUR BACKUP PG AND HEIR APPARENT, ISN’T THE ACTIONS OF SOMEONE LOOKIGN FOR JOB SECURITY.

James

March 28th, 2009
6:05 pm

Again, how does this team have a winning record? The laziest bunch of millionaires I’ve ever seen. I would expect a better effort for people getting paid so much, who if they didn’t have basketball to fall on, would be working at a fast food restaurant!!!! @%#%@%

Sautee

March 28th, 2009
6:14 pm

Anybody watching UConn / Mizzou?

God, for a motion offense like Missouri.

darrell starks

March 28th, 2009
7:19 pm

KEN i agree with you 100percent Woody could never take this team to the next level.GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Astro Joe

March 28th, 2009
7:46 pm

Ken, Woody could have done better with Acie but Acie (much like Salim) seems to be absent an awful lot. Either an injury or personal issues or something. Woody played him in x consecutive games and then he came up lame. If it’s not the coach it’s something else.

I expected that we would lose these games against the league’s elite, I’m just disappointed in the way that we are losing.

O'brien

March 28th, 2009
8:08 pm

Sekou, I see you had the Syracuse PG as a potential draft pick for the Hawks. Do you really think he would get much PT under Woody? Woody is so inconsistent. Salim got no PT, but he was a good shooter who couldnt play the PG spot. All things considered, Acie plays the position well, but he is not a good shooter, and he also gets no PT.

Let’s see if the Lakers do the same thing to the Hawks tomorrow (D up on JJ). I hope Woody is prepared to make adjustments. And the Hawks need to execute better.

Samuel, based on your theory about the Hawks going from 37 wins to the 4th seed, then that means the Miami coach deserves COY more than Woody. They had 15 wins last year, and this year they have 38 already. Not to mention that they play 2 rookies (including a rookie PG), and the coach himself is also a rookie.

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
8:11 pm

The Truth,

I appreciate the sentiments, but that was a faker. Let’s see if the clown can log into this system like I can, and have his post shaded in gray. Then you’ll have a worthy doppleganger. Otherwise, it’s just another person that just WISHES I wasn’t around. But gosh, it sure is nice to know that someone out there thinks enough about me to do that. :)

Perhaps the “Big Ray” wannabe would be so good as to go ahead and write the next Hawks Hack blog I was working on….I mean, if you’re going to be me and all that…

Eh, what the heck. Back to work. New blog for the Hawks Hacks coming up…gimme about 10 or 15 minutes…

newkid

March 28th, 2009
8:17 pm

Was it my malfunctioning hearing aid, or did I actually hear Woody ‘begging’ Joe to allow a sub to come in for him after he committed his 2nd foul in the 1st quarter last night? No, he didn’t exit. Imagine the halftime fisticuffs had that been Smoove.

The awfully loud flapping noise you’ll hear over much of metro Atlanta early Sunday afternoon will be our Hawks ‘heading for the hills’ in hasty retreat as the Lakers enter the arena to pillage and loot local treasure just after noon. Same noise I’m certain I heard about 4:00 p.m. Wednesday AND Friday this week as the Spurs and Celtics made their way into Philips.

Samuel

March 28th, 2009
8:27 pm

Obrien,

No Dwade. This year DWade. Now, if they overtake us in the standing he beats Woody out. He has done a good job though although I think he should have found a way to start his second best player(Beasley).

Woody=COY

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
9:12 pm

Samuel,

I would agree with you on Spoelstra not starting Beasley. But what if there’s something behind that? Beasley’s talent is obvious. Too obvious. But what if his attitude is not right, or he’s not delivering the effort on defense? If Woody was in the same spot, would he have Beasley coming off of the bench as well if that was the case?

I wonder why 13 and 5 is what he gets in roughly 24/25 mpg. That’s decent production, but even with fewer minutes, those are Marvin Williams numbers.

Still, as you say, a good player can’t be kept down…..right?

Of course, Spoelstra has the advantage of having other players who can play some in that spot, and Woody didn’t have the same advantage with a guy like say, Josh Smith. I’m just curious what you think of that, from a coaching perspective.

But I do agree that Beasley is easily the team’s second best player. Marion is toast these days or he’d make Beasley 3rd best on the team…at least for a little while.

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
9:19 pm

Astro Joe,

The way we are losing is WHY we are losing.

We were good enough to beat the Celtics LAST YEAR at home 3 times in the freakin’ playoffs, when they were at full strength. Not being able to beat them at home (even without Marvin and Acie) or San Antonio (without Duncan, and mostly without Ginobilli) is not what I would call guaranteed wins, but they were winnable games.

We beat some good teams during that 7-0 home stretch earlier. New Orleans. Portland. Utah. And we were doing it without Marvin.

I see the HOW also being the WHY.

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
9:27 pm

By the way Astro Joe….

Remember that trade the Bulls made to acquire Miller and Salmons? The one you said didn’t make that much sense to you? Well, I can understand your reaction, as it probably wouldn’t have worked for us (and you know exactly why), but it did PRECISELY what I thought it would for the Bulls. I didn’t think they had a chance of making the playoffs before hand. Now they’re holding the 7th seed…for the moment. Miller is a steady presence and a true center. He provides some rebounding, a bit of defense, and a true offensive threat. Oh, and just a tad of size. :)

But the key has been Salmons. When your $71 million dollar swingman is providing far less for your team than our $58 million dollar PF does on a bad night, then you need a steady, savvy scoring presence that isn’t as streaky or one-dimensional as Ben Gordon. Enter Salmons. Hello playoffs….even with a banged up Derrick Rose. Of course, other factors have fed off of this and helped as well. The emergence of Joakim Noah, the suddenly steady hand of Kirk Hinrich, and Tyrus Thomas having his head screwed on right for more than a game or two in a row…

Now if only we can make solid moves like that in the offseason, and then make actual USE of them…..oh wait. I’m not supposed to be talking about stuff like that. We’re in the year of our lives, I forgot….ahem…*cough, cough*…

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
10:15 pm

I;m leaving, yall!

So long !

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
10:20 pm

Heh. Good try, Sam.

Big Ray

March 28th, 2009
10:22 pm

Or whoever. The horrid punctuation alone gives it away….sorry to disappoint. To get rid of me, you have to come find me. Ready when you are.

Ken Strickland

March 28th, 2009
11:20 pm

I just read the article about the top 5 players that might be available to the Hawks in this yrs draft. There were 2 PG’s in that group, which is a joke. Everyone with an IQ knows Woodson will only embrace a veteran PG and will go out of his way to avoid developing and/or using a rookie PG. He’ll deliberately disrupt a rookies development with inconsistent and limited mins, heavy handed treatment and intolerance of any mistakes just to make a case for acquiring another veteran PG to replace Bibby.

Let me show everyone just how incompetent Woodson is and how flawed his system is. On DEF he likes to switch on every screen. Teams now take advantage of that by using pick and roll with their PG and center. That switch causes our C or PF to be isolated 15ft from the basket on a PG(remember what TParker did to us with that play). The PG blows past our C or PF and we end up with no one to protect the basket. PG’s have been shooting layup drills the last 2gms using that simple play against us, and Woodson hasn’t made a single adjustment.

Has anyone besides me noticed how many fouls Bibby has been getting trying to defend forwards and centers? What other HC in NBA history has ever designed a DEF that has his C and PF trying to defend the opposing PG 15ft from the basket, and his PG trying to defend the opposing C or PF under the basket? That’s why teams have started taking advantage of Woodson’s flawed DEF strategy by isolating their guards on our C’s and PF’s and killing us.

Big Ump

March 28th, 2009
11:27 pm

Ken Strickland

You need to ask AJC about writing a I dislike Woody Blog. That’s all your post about 97% of the time.
Man you are unreal..

SportsLoungeCentral

March 29th, 2009
12:17 am

If you guys want to talk more about the NBA come to sportsloungecentral.com

We need some members

Elijah

March 29th, 2009
12:59 am

Wow Ray writes on the Hawks Hackblog and is proud of it! Does this go on your resume?

Clyde

March 29th, 2009
3:30 am

Ken Strickland for Blogger Of The Year!!

Sorry “Give Up The Big Play Ray” your chance at a repeat is slim.

Sautee

March 29th, 2009
9:54 am

Big Ump, just because Ken is fixated on the poor job Woody has done, does NOT mean that what he says isn’t true.

Some of us are extremely frustrated with a simple lack of adjustments, a lack of imagination, and poor use of assets.

Give Ken a break. He’s only frustrated because he want it to be better. We all do.