Bring on the King!

 

The last time the Hawks saw King James (March 1 at Philips Arena) they came up short.

The last time the Hawks saw King James (March 1 at Philips Arena) they came up short.

HAWKSVILLE - The last time the Hawks lost a home game it was at the hands of LeBron James.

The last time King James and his crew lost a home game was before the All-Star Break (Feb. 8 to the Lakers and the Cavs’ only home loss of the season).

The Hawks have won seven straight games.

The Cavs have won seven straight as well (and they are an outlandish 31-1 at home).

Something and somebody has to give Saturday at Quicken Loans Arena when the two teams square off in a rematch of a March 1 game at Philips Arena the King won 88-87 with a last second free throw.

It’s too bad the NCAA Tournament will keep most folks from tuning in to see the two hottest teams in the NBA and the Eastern Conference go at it.

Both teams are fighting for playoff position, the Hawks for home court in the first round and the Cavs for home court throughout the entire playoffs.

It’s a perfect storm for hoops lovers, particularly those that love to dive into the NBA’s version of March Madness. The brackets for the NBA’s tournament can’t be filled out just yet. There are too many variables still in play. But it’s clear right now that the Hawks won’t go into the final weeks on the playoff bubble.

If they did nothing else on this recent homestand, they stamped their ticket to the postseason.

In addition, they rebounded from a potentially devastating few days of internal turmoil between Mike Woodson and Josh Smith to show that winning truly does cure all.

Pounding out wins against teams like Detroit, New Orleans, Utah, Portland and Dallas (all likely playoff bound teams) sent a strong message to the rest of the league.

Not getting popped against Indiana and Sacramento, however, sent an even louder message to me. Because it proved that maybe now, I said maybe, the Hawks are free from the mental letdowns against lesser teams that has shadowed them the past two years.

“They’ve got this thing rolling right now man,” an advance scout for an Eastern Conference powerhouse said to me as the Dallas game ended and we were walking away from the court. “If you’ve got to come in here and deal with this team in the playoffs it’s going to be tough. Now I see what Boston had to deal with last year.”

Paul Pierce and the Celtics know just how tough it is to win at Philips Arena.

Paul Pierce and the Celtics know just how tough it is to win at Philips Arena.

Since that playoff series with the Celtics, the Hawks are a jaw-dropping 30-7 on their home floor.

So it’s clear the Hawks are going to formidable on their home floor no matter the opponent.

The challenge now is to prove they can get it done away from home.

And that’s why Saturday’s game looms so large.

What team doesn’t want to join the Lakers as the only teams to go into the castle to defeat the King?

But if the Hawks are in the business of staring down their demons the way we think they are, winning a few more games on the road would certainly do the trick.

They’ve already surpassed last season’s road win total of 12 (they are 14-21). Inch closer to .500 on the road, though, and home court advantage and that magical 50-win season both come into clearer focus between now and April 15.

318 comments Add your comment

ATL Rattler

March 20th, 2009
9:48 am

Looking good Hawks! Let’s get this thing done on the road, & we can secure that 4 spot. And all this without Marvin! Not saying Marv is the engine that drives this machine, but his improvement & contributions this year have been much better than in years past.

Hey where are all the Duck references – haven’t seen them all year since he bust that 3 in the first game this year. I think everybody was like: Marv’s shooting 3’s now, yeah baby!

Let’s go Hawks!

fire man

March 20th, 2009
9:51 am

When will somebody come out and say it?
The Hawks are a better team, maybe even much better, without Marvin Williams.
Williams is a good guy, and I’m guessing we’ll never read about him cursing out his coach, beating up his girlfriend, getting into a nightclub brawl, or any of the other stupid things that several highly paid jocks get in trouble for these days.
But on the court, he’s soft and brings an inconsistent effort.
Sekou, in the paper today, you mentioned that Mike Woodson had no explanation why the team has such a great record with Mo Evans as a starter.
Are you kidding me???!!!
Mo Evans makes plays. He plays hard all the time. And while he might not post huge numbers every game, he does little things, things that veterans do, that help teams win ballgames.
Woodson’s cluelessness on this is disturbing.
Even more disturbing is that if Marv were healthy today, he would probably be right back in the starting lineup, regardless of the team’s win streak without him.
On a good team, Marv should be no better than the seventh man.
This was a blown draft pick by Billy Knight.
And I’m not a Knight basher.
For instance, I applauded the pick of Shelden Williams. I thought he was the best big man available when the Hawks picked that year.
That didn’t turn out so well, but they did get Bibby from that pick.
Anyhow, I hope this unconditional love affair that Woodson and the Hawks management has with Marv ends soon.

Khao$

March 20th, 2009
10:01 am

Honestly, that blow up between Woody and Josh may have been the best thing that happened to this team, this season. While showing up your head coach is completely unacceptable, I believe it gave this team a chance to hash out some things that needed to be talked about and air out their issues. Shoot, Bobby Cox and John Smoltz got into on the mound before. Terry Pendleton walked off the field because Marvin Freeman didn’t bean a guy in retaliation for Deion Sanders getting belted. Andruw Jones had to be pulled out of a game for not hustling. I’m using Braves references because they won consistantly and didn’t allow locker room issues to side track them. Adversity can be a good thing if you learn from it and build something positive. I believed that happened. And now look…we’re talking about the Hawks going into Cleveland riding a seven game winning streak. Nobody needed to get traded. Nobody needed to get fired. Sitting Josh on the bench for a half was all that was needed. And look at the team now. The baby Hawks are maturing right before out eyes.

ILL-logical

March 20th, 2009
10:19 am

Reading “Sunshine” Shultz’s column this morning called to mind a trend that has been re-occuring over the last 5 years in the Atlanta media: Francouering young sports figures.

Remember how Jeff Francouer was the second coming of Babe Ruth? well now we know that the kid was and is a decent ballplayer who,now that the pressure to replace Andruw Jones as the statistical leader of the Braves is off,can be what he is: decent.

And remember the enshrinement of Keith Brookings into Canton? Well that certainly turned out well. Of course the motive there was to assuage the anti Vick folks that one of “their kind” was really the star of the Falcons.

Now comes the crowning of second year pro Al Horford as “the leader” of the Hawks. First, since there are no home grown talents or “our kind of people” on the Hawks ,someone had to qualify. But the question raised by this pronouncement is compared to who?

Is it the putive hero Joe? Or is it the one who “has lingering questions ” about what he is?

Allow me to cut to the chase: Al don’t fall for the BS; you are a good player in a not good organization located in a town that ,while starved for a winner, still wants a certain look for its heros. The scapegoating of players like Andruw,Vick and now Josh is no accident. You are just a means to an end, a mean and nasty end added and abetted by people like Sunshine because they can’t do any better.

Beware the idiots of March!

dap01

March 20th, 2009
10:26 am

ILL LOGICAL: An appropriate name.

richbrave

March 20th, 2009
10:26 am

Both ILL and ILL-logical. Agreed.

DUANE FERELL

March 20th, 2009
10:28 am

FIRE MAN, WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT? U THOUGHT SHELDEN WILLIAMS WAS THE BEST BIG MAN IN THE DRAFT? HE NOT EVEN A BIG MAN,HE WAS DIRT SLOW, AND COULDNT JUMP.HE WAS BARELY 6FT 6. HE WAS PROTECTED BY THE REFS AT DUKE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE DUKIES WHO BUM OUT IN THE NBA. MARVIN HAS MORE UPSIDE THAN AL, AND SMOOTH BECAUSE HE CAN SHOOT BETTER . HE’S LONG, HE HIT THE WEIGHT ROOM AND GOT STRONGER. HE REALLY IS THE TEAMS BEST DEFENDER. HE NEVER GETS PLAYS CALLED FOR HIM, BUT IN THE GAMES WHEN WOODSON WENT TO HIM HE DELIVERED. ON A TEAM WHERE MARVIN GOT ALOT OF TOUCHES HE WOULD EASILY AVERAGE OVER 20. MO EVANS IS A JOURNEYMAN SMALL FORWARD. COMPARING HIM TO MARVIN IS BS. THE REASON WHY THE HAWKS ARE WINNING IS BECAUSE JJ FINNALY HAS BEGAN TO TURN IT ON. YOU GUYS ON THIS BLOG NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JJ WHEN HE HAS A BAD GAME, WHICH B4 LATELY WAS EVERY OTHER GAME. IM TIRED OF THIS MARVIN BASHING GOING ON. THE HAWKS SHOULD HAVE A BETTER RECORD, BUT WOODSON, JJ, AND BIBBY ARE ALL 2 INCONSISTENT. ON DRAFT NIGHT THEY SAID IN 5 YEARS MARVIN MIGHT BE THE BEST IN HIS CLASS BUT WIT PAUL AND DW I DOUBT IT, BUT HE STILL CAN AND WILL BECOME AN ALL -STAR. THE KID IS GOOD, HELL MILWAUKEE ALMOST TOOK HIM 1

Big Ray

March 20th, 2009
10:38 am

Man, Jhan’s seats are the cat’s pajamas! That is one cool dude, and I thank him again for the seat!

Enjoyed the game last night, like nobody’s business.

Got to meet Doc and his sweetheart (you go, boy!), Ando face-to-face for the first time (he’s straight up more laid back than y’all think), MannyT (just as funny in person as here in the blogosphere), and got to see Mr. and Mrs. Sautee again.

Hung around the pretzel stand hoping to meet some others, but no such luck.

Got to chat with Sekou after the game, saw T.O.’s narcissistic self, and was within 20 feet of the still-imposing Kevin Willis.

Good win by the Hawks, great night with friends. Gotta do this again. Soon. We were right there, a couple of rows behind the opposing team’s bench when Coach Carlisle exploded for those two techs and got ejected. Of course, I had to loudly say to asst. coach Terry Stotts, “yeah, take over Stotts! We know YOU can’t coach.”

That drew laughs from Jhan, Ando, and some of the surrounding crowd. Ah yes, my proudest moment…heh heh heh.

Thanks again to Jhan!

Big Ray

March 20th, 2009
10:51 am

Don’t look now, but Woody shortened up that bench last night…

Put the hook on Acie with a quickness. And I remember after which play, too. It was when he was chasing Barea, and after fighting through the second or third screen, lost him. Unfortunately, nobody rotated over. Barea got to the basket free for a layup….and out came Acie.

Of course, we weren’t getting much from Bibby, but Flip was on fire. Good thing, too, as we were struggling from the field. Not as bad as the Mavs were, though. They started a run, but began to fall apart. Good for us, as we maintained enough to get the win.

Beating good teams at home? Good stuff. I’ll take it.

I guess Mark Price should not get paid for last night. Josh and Al went a collective 4-11 from the line. Heh….

welikebaseball2

March 20th, 2009
11:09 am

So, as I suspected, Woodson has shortened the rotation again. I don’t know if he has a general issue with young point guards or no patience when it comes to developing young players or a particular issue with Acie. I do know that Flip, as good a scorer as he is, is no point guard (see A/TO ratio…worst of all guards on the squad). So let me get this straight, our backup PG has one of the lowest A/TO ratios on the team & shoots or turns the ball over more than he passes? Again, no knock on Murray’s scoring ability or passion…but a knock on Woodson plugging him in as the 1st-option backup PG.

Rod from College Park

March 20th, 2009
11:22 am

FIRE MAN,

The things that you are stating about Marvin have been discussed on this blog consistently for the last couple of months. Most of the members on the blog must have gone to North Carolina, because you cannot say anything wrong about him. If you do, you will be called an idiot, or you will be accused of really being me (Rod from College Park). Stick to your guns, and eventually these clowns will have to admit the truth. Can’t agree with you on Shelden Williams, but we can agree to disagree. They will tell you that although his stats were better last year, he is much improved this year. They will tell you that if Marvin got more touches, he would be Danny Granger, or if Coach Woodson did something different Marvin would be Scottie Pippen. If a DUCK had larger wings and talons, it would be an eagle. I also agree with you on Mo Evans. They will tell you that it is just a coincidence that we are playing well without him. I can tell there are no gamblers here, because it is not a coincidence, it is a trend. Gamblers make a lot of money off of trends. A couple of weeks ago I was the only IDIOT, who thought this way. Welcome to the club FIREMAN.

DUANE FERRELL: You should be smarter than that if you went to Georgia Tech.

niremetal

March 20th, 2009
11:23 am

ILL,

Love the Caesar reference, my friend!

Markie Fresh

March 20th, 2009
11:26 am

I think that Woodson’s system doesnt fit Law… Law is a pick and roll/pop type of player who creates by slashing to the basket…Woodson runs most of their stuff through Johnson. Bibby isnt as good as he used to be driving to the basket….. the Bibby/Webber pick and roll used to be devastating. I think that when the bench players come on they should run pick and roll sets with Law and Horford/Smith and put shooters around them.

A Thinking Fan

March 20th, 2009
11:34 am

Doc, AJ have you heard from Flash, HB during this win streak?

Native ATLien

March 20th, 2009
11:36 am

Sekou…. Your comments about us fans not showing up enough for our playoff bound Hawks got me and the fam into the arena last night. I actually went to the Philips box office shortly after reading the blog. Glad we went buy I still stand by my opinion that the Hawks should move start times back at least 30 mins. 7pm is hard with work, school, homework, and pre-game meals.

nola hawk fan

March 20th, 2009
12:04 pm

Blog Z, or other frequent posters to this outstanding board…

A lot of talk about getting the 4 seed for home court … so let’s assume the Hawks get by the heat. For the second round, does the winner of the 4/5 get the 1/8 winner? I assume it does. looks like Cavs holding that spot down…

Blast

March 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

On the money, Sekou. 7 win streak meets another 7 win streak team. Something, someone must give, and I hope it’s not the Hawks. While not a lot of people will pick them to win this game, especially when the refs basically gave Lebron the last game in Phipps, I won’t be too surprised if the Hawks pull it out. Hawks have been pretty good at staring at, and stabbing down a lot of their demons this year. 1st season sweeps over Detroit, Hornets, and another ballclub, almost swept the Bobcats, took it to Dallas, they are beating elite teams, and exorcising the ghost from the past that used to beat the hell out of them. It only remains to see if they can do it on the road, and Cavs are the perfect team to try it on. Time to show your mettle, Hawks. Tough task, but not impossible.

Imagine, Atlanta Hawks is only one of four teams in the NBA that has not made any lineup change all season. Thay are basically still with every team member they started the year with. No trades, no additions, thus a good chemistry level. Hawks are so much fun to watch these days.

O'brien

March 20th, 2009
12:21 pm

Even if the Hawks dont win this game, I think it is important that they make a statement, because Cleveland could be their opponent in the second round. And let’s face it. Who takes the Hawks seriously on the road (against good teams)?

I do expect that Woody will go with his 7 man rotation tomorrow (Flip/Zaza), regardless of how the game goes. And JJ might be forced to guard PG Mo Williams, who is lighting it up.

Rod from CP, I’m not a big Marvin fan, but we could really use him tomorrow. He will not stop Lebron, but he gives us good size and more fouls to use on Lebron. I dont want JJ guarding Lebron the whole time (because Woody is going to play him for 41 minutes) and if Mo Evans gets a couple quick fouls, then what?

Flappin' Hawk

March 20th, 2009
12:37 pm

Early preview to round 2 of playoffs: Hawks at Cavs – win or loose, this away game will show how far the Hawks have come and how far they can go this year. Can’t freakin’ wait.
The only thing I don’t look forward to is another game full of touch fouls when Lebron’s uniform is breathed on too vigorously by the Hawks.

CONZY

March 20th, 2009
12:41 pm

FIRE MAN….Seriously, can’t we all just get along. Look around man it is 2009……Maybe people didn’t like Mick Vick because he is a sadistic felon who was also a mediocre quarterback. Boy, Andruw Jones has sure had a great couple of years. Really that whole schtick you are spewing is tired man.

CONZY

March 20th, 2009
12:44 pm

Whoops! Sorry Fire Man, while I disagree about Marvin, folks can agree to disagree. My earlier comment was directed at ILL illogical (really appropriate name btw) and his racially charged blather.

Elijah (The Truth Serious Cavs FAN)

March 20th, 2009
12:45 pm

Look Hawk fans!

The hawks do not want to face Cleveland in the second round! Woodie is too weak of a coach to assist his team in that series!

If the Hawks management can fire Woodie and get a coach they will show this team how to run and add more plays then a pick and roll with JJ. This team would win 50 plus games easily.

Question for you guys! Why is it a rule in the NBA that when the play-offs get closer you shorten your rotation. Boston did it in the 80’s and these dumb coaches have follow since!

Play your bench that is why you have a bench. Every player gets tired!

Woodie is a terrible coach!

GeeMack

March 20th, 2009
12:54 pm

We will go to Clevland and get spanked by 20 tomorrow. The Hawks have know one that posses that burining fire to win, above all else. The difference between the Lakers and Hawks is KB24 he thinks and knows he better that LBJ. The hawks don’t have that type player.

chaz

March 20th, 2009
12:56 pm

ILL,You are probably one of the most intelligent posters on this forum. I agree with you.

Elijah

March 20th, 2009
1:09 pm

**first off, good job to whoever posted as me. we all know what Woodson will do in 3 weeks or so when Duck returns… He will bench Mo, return him to 5 mpg, only use 3 bench players, and proceed to play a slightly-injured marvin williams 45 minutes a game until he gets injured again. Woodson will continue to prove his motto of “If it ain’t broke, fix it” and we will suffer.

BRING DUCK OFF THE BENCH**

Gilley

March 20th, 2009
1:15 pm

What channel the game on cause its not on Sportssouth!!!??

kwooden1

March 20th, 2009
1:16 pm

Another great win, but another game that I missed. Looking at the stats I agree with everyone on not enough time for Acie or Mario. Will need both of those guys tomorrow night against Cleveland. Mario can foul Lebron some and along with Acie checking MO. I believe the root of the latest success is JJ getting his shot back (#1) and JSmoove cleaning up the backboards (#2). Al is always on watch when it comes to the backboards, but getting JS back on the boards has been the difference. At this point I think Woody has been right to start Marvin and bring Evans off the bench for him. Marvin’s been playing really well and has helped the team when JJ and Bibby have been struggling. I don’t think you can assess Marvin’s performance versus Evans until you give him a 7 game home stand, OH I forgot they went 7-1 the last time!!

GO HAWKS!!

Astro Joe

March 20th, 2009
1:16 pm

A Thinking Fan, Ando is now the co-owner of Hawks Hack (along with Ray or Big Ray or Ray-Ray). But he hasn’t been nearly as verbose in praising the Hawks as he has been in the past. But I’m sure that doesn’t surprise you. Flash stopped by a few weeks ago and did a drive-by but he has been mostly MIA during this season.

We haven’t seen you around in a while… hope you’re enjoying this season, I know I am!

terrell barron

March 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

Fireman, I hope you meant to say that this team is better without Marvin IN THE STARTING LINEUP. If you did, I agree. If you didn’t, that’s absurd.

Gilley

March 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

Wow. I am bugging. I thought today was Saturday!!! smh

terrell barron

March 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

Ill-logical, it’s Keith Brooking, not Keith Brookings. I see his name spelled like that all the time, and it bugs the hell out of me. lol!!

yessir

March 20th, 2009
1:41 pm

At least Rod is getting CREATIVE about posting under different names. He actually changed his writin STYLE this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But you ain’t foolin NO ONE Rod!!!!!!!

Beck

March 20th, 2009
1:42 pm

I believe one of the reasons Law was pulled last night is that he is having back spasms. Nique said something about it over the telecast.

Was it just me, or did anyone else see that the game was a lot closer when Bibby was on the floor? We started pulling away from Dallas with Rio on the floor in the 2nd quarter. Dallas kept it close with Bibby on the floor in the 2nd half.

john V

March 20th, 2009
1:44 pm

Duane you are right on…. fire man is full of crap. The guy who deserves the bashing in the talent rich, brain starved Josh…another 5 turnover night against Dallas although one of his better games otherwise. He has the capabiltiy of turning a game around… unfortuneately in both directions….he can be a momentum killer. Marvin rules, one of the best all around players on the team.

Ariose

March 20th, 2009
2:13 pm

Mike Needs to have a good game tomorrow. This guy has had more bad games than anyone this season and I for one am tired of everybody else having to pick up their play to cover for him. OBVIOUSLY he has to guard Mo Williams tomorrow because there is no one else that we can put him on(Delonte Would dunk on him for sure). He needs to suck it up, play some damn good defense, and hit his shots and/or layups/floaters. If he’s not going to hit them then he doesn’t need to play. He’s been cold since our seven game western swing in February. It’s time to put up or go to the bench Mike Bibby. If they want to win 50 games then they have to win this game tomorrow. We’re going to have to win on the road in order to do it and we only have 6 road games left as opposed to 7 home games…..most of which we will be hosting the league’s elite contenders.

*Sir Links A Lot*

cp

March 20th, 2009
2:21 pm

Honestly this is a game where we need Marvin. He wont stop Lebron but his size and length at least bothers Lebron some. Evans cant guard Lebron and I don’t want Joe on him because of the many fouls Lebron draws. It is going to be a tough game. Bibby cant guard Mo Williams or Delonte so I don’t know who he will be matched up with. I just hope the game is competitive and that we don’t shoot our wad as Nique would say.

Ryder

March 20th, 2009
2:29 pm

ILL-logical, the only problem with your post is that unlike those guys (Brooking, Francoeur, and Vick) Horford has proven to be consistent and has shown he can hold his own in the postseason. Besides, since the rest of the NBA media refuses to admit how good he is and still slobs Greg Oden, it’s good to see the folks of Atlanta giving love where it’s due.

Acie is having back trouble and has to wear a pad when he’s sitting down. It will be interesting if the Hawks decide not to re-sign Bibby if they will consider signing my man Eric Maynor from VCU should Law not be able to adapt to Woodson’s system.

This entire next week will be pivotal for this franchise as they will also take on the powers of the league San Antonio, LA, and Boston. We will see how far Atlanta has truly come.

Ryder

March 20th, 2009
2:29 pm

oooops, I meant drafting Maynor. Still trying to balance between blogging and feeding the newborn at the same time.

A Thinking Fan

March 20th, 2009
2:37 pm

AJ, I’ve been on travel assignment this season, but I’m backing our Hawks’ players…
I’m here in spirit and keep up with their games while I’m on the road.

Astro Joe

March 20th, 2009
2:45 pm

Ryder, I like Maynor too. But after he works out for teams, I have a feeling he will be a top 18 pick. And congrats on the newborn. I thought I smelled a leaking diaper on the blog.

ray

March 20th, 2009
3:01 pm

Astro Joe,

I’ll explain. When I’m logged into the system that we do the blogs on, my system name (which I designated as Big Ray for the purpose of the Hacks ID) will pop up every single time I post, along with the shaded/gray area taking up my entire post block. It doesn’t matter what name or e-mail address I type in, and doesn’t matter what blog I go to. Sometimes I forget to log out of the system, and there you get to see the name change.

Don’t ask me why I posted as ray-ray. Probably because I was both bored and along on the Hacks blog during a game.

Ill-logical,

That was a very good post. Thought provoking.

ray

March 20th, 2009
3:17 pm

Terrell Baron,

I agree. The team may be better without Marvin in the starting lineup. But you’re never better when you’re short a man (let alone a starter) on a team where the rotation is already short. To say so is, well as you say, absurd. However, people see things they want to.

Rod,

Disagreeing is natural. I think you know that. But exaggerating or telling outright lies? I don’t think anybody takes kindly to that. While I never called you an idiot, as far as I can remember, I do remember talking about Granger. This right here:

“They will tell you that if Marvin got more touches, he would be Danny Granger, or if Coach Woodson did something different Marvin would be Scottie Pippen.”

….is BS. I challenge you to find the post where I or anyone else said exactly that. While the rest of this stuff is opinions, what somebody said or didn’t say is dealing with FACT. What I said was, “what if”, and used another player that plays the same position as a reference for a hypothetical point of view. Since I don’t recall anybody else using that reference or saying that Marvin could do differently if used differently, I’ll assume I am the target of your scoffing. Again, find the post, date and time I said what YOU said, and I’ll gladly take it back. Disagreeing with a point of view is one thing. I’m not claiming to be right, I just have an opinion, same as you. What YOU did was put words in my mouth. I didn’t do that to you, so why are you going there?

Personally, I think it’s stupid when a guy is drafted with the highest draft pick this team has had in years, yet he’s the 4th option on offense. Both Billy and Woody were thrilled to get him, saying that he brought something different to the table than the other forwards. Yet Woody doesn’t make him one of the top options on offense.

And it’s Billy that drafted him.

But all I hear is “we’re a better team without him.”

This, to me is the biggest folly. Instead of talking about the player himself as if it was his fault, people who think we’re better off without him should be talking about THE GM WHO DRAFTED HIM, and the COACH WHO PLAYS HIM. Marvin is who and what he is, pre-draft, now, and the future.

I think he’s a decent player who can be good. Some do not. So what? But to blame this joke-show on the PLAYER? Yeah, okay. That makes sense.

That’s where I agree with Fireman. The guy didn’t pick himself #2….

The Truth

March 20th, 2009
3:24 pm

If some of the bloggers on here were a basketball team, they would be self-destructing in the 4th quarter a misted a successful season. To continue to bash Marvin when we all should pause and pay some respect to the Hawks team accomplishment compared to last year this time. Yes we still have a long way to go before we can all basked in any real glory, but at least for now we should call a spade a spade and pay some respect. Even our opponents have offered that. The truth is the truth. Each of the Hawks starters (that would include Marvin), has played a critical role throughout the course of this successful season up to this point. We did not get these 41 wins by chance. Each starter has had successful spot-light performances and each has delivered and made a difference. I will also give a separate but equal shout-out to our bench players especially Flip, Mo and ZaZa. It sounds much like an agenda to me when the Marvin-Bashers start a consistent assault campaign at this juncture. Heaven forbid, but if we should start a long road losing streak than maybe (just maybe) all this Marvin bashing will go away and all of these GO-Hawks pretenders will crawl back under the rock from whence they came. To offer random constructive criticism as we do here all the time, is one thing, but to start a consistent campaign is another. But what a coincidence, Marvin is up for contract re-negotiation this year. Wouldn’t it be nice if they could low-ball or de-value him and get away with it? With this theory however, I don’t really know if this would be inspired by the ASG or our scouting-competition; just a thought. One more thing, in advance, if these shoes fit you, then openly wear them with pride. It least, we will all then know who has them on.

JerryWest

March 20th, 2009
3:47 pm

Hawks went +15 in the 15 minutes Bibby was sitting, and they went -7 in the 33 minutes Bibby played. Everyone in our defense had to work extra hard to partially cover Bibby’s defensive deficiencies.

jakejay

March 20th, 2009
4:01 pm

Some people just have no clue about basketball..Lol you guys really amuse me when you knock marv’s game….Stop typing blogs all day and watch a hawks game 4 once because if you did watch hawks games you wouldn’t hate on a player who when its all said and done will have quite a few all-star appearences…The best thing to do is to just stay quiet because you guys look like idiots when you talk down about marvin williams..Quit talking nonsense and get ya basketball iq up!!!

Old Dawgg

March 20th, 2009
4:21 pm

Until the Hawks learn to use Josh Smith down low,I cannot take them seriously.The play is called “1 down-power”.Invented by Hubie Brown.Perfected by Dan Roundfield.A play that will bring toughness to a soft,jumpshootin’ team like our Hawks.Take it to the hole yall!!!!

Rod from College Park

March 20th, 2009
4:24 pm

Ray,

Stop being so jumpy. I actually said, “some of these clowns”. I actually don’t consider you to be a member of the circus, so I was not talking to you. I actually feel like you have a little basketball knowledge, but not when it comes to Marvin. The post I was referring to was some CLOWN, that told me if Marvin was the focal point of the offense, and he took as many shots, he would be as good as Granger. I don’t even remember what CLOWN, it was, but I know that it was not you. For the record, I don’t like Billy Knight, and I am not a Woodson fan. So please stop with the blame the GM or the coach crap. Actually he will not be the fourth option anymore, he will be the fifth. Horford is balling now. Calm down!!!

The Truth : The Marvin discussions were escalated when everyone wanted to get on the bash Josh Smith bandwagon. The argument is simply based on the fact that we will have to pay Marvin somewhere in the range of 6 to 9 million dollars after the season is over. Does he deserve it. I say no. Josh is a overall better investment, and it is proven on the court, with the stats, and even with the attitide issues. That is all.

5+5 = 10
Another WIN without MarVIN. (In the sarting lineup)

bigdave

March 20th, 2009
4:28 pm

EXACTLY JERRY WEST…. NO NEED TO RESIGN FOR BIG MONEY…!!!

merbertmoover

March 20th, 2009
4:35 pm

everyone knows that al horford is the mustard BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

Rod from College Park

March 20th, 2009
4:40 pm

jakejay,

Good luck with the all star appearances. I guess, Granger, Wallace, Prince, Joe Johnson, Lebron, Pierce, Butler, Harrington, Jefferson, Salmons, Young, Deng, Lewis…. will all be going to the western conference huh. Don’t hold your breath. Basketball IQ huh? What lineup is better for the Hawks right now? Bibby, Joe, and Flip , or Bibby, Joe, and Marvin? Answer that Mr. IQ man.