Senate passes abortion bill, would make it a crime to convince woman to abort child

After more than three hours of debate, the Georgia Senate pounded out a grueling abortion bill that would make it a crime to coerce a woman to have an abortion.

Under SB 529, the bill’s sponsor, Chip Pearson (R-Dawsonville), said doctors, boyfriends, pimps and even parents can face criminal charges is they encourage a woman to have an abortion.

A mother telling a child not to come home with a child, could go to jail based on the bill, that still has to pass the House.

Pearson added that the bill also targets doctors and health care providers, who specifically target women of color, or people who abort based on the gender or race of the child.

“If there is one thing that we can do as legislators to protect the next generation it would be to make sure abortions are rare, un-coerced and not done to promote some type of agenda related to gender or race of the child,” Pearson said.

While it is clear that black women make up more than a majority of the state’s abortions, Pearson said that in 64 percent of abortions in Georgia, “some form of coercion is present.”

“I wish there was some way to sugar coat this message. I wish I didn’t have to be here bringing this message,” Pearson said. “I have struggled with this as a father, as a Christian and as someone similar to you who represents around 100,000 newborns in this great state.”

SB 529 was approved 33-14, pretty much along party lines. Nine senators did not vote.

But the bill drew intense criticism from pro-choice senators, who questioned the bill’s purpose and legality.

“This bill was created under the false assumption that abortion doctors solicit women of color, particularly, black women,” said Sen. Donzella James of College Park. “This bill calls into question all who make a deeply private and personal medical decision.  Every woman, regardless of ethnic background, should have the ability to make personal decisions. Not the people in this room. It is between, she, her family and God.”

Sen. Nan Orrock of Atlanta dubbed the bill “throw the doctor in jail legislation,” authored by the “right to run your life crowd.”

“This is an unconstitutional bill and subterfuge,” said Curt Thompson (D-Tucker). “There is no real way to figure out how someone has been coerced.”

Pearson said proof would be based on eyewitness testimony.

Throughout the afternoon, a host of senators – both Republicans and Democrats – lined up to speak for or against the bill.

Taking a swipe at Democrats, Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock said that with coercion, there is no choice.

One Republican senator posted a photograph of his daughter who was born last year.

Several times, the words China, socialism, genocide, Obamacare, Holocaust and even serfs were used to show where the country is going.

“We are following China in many ways toward the road to socialism,” said Sen. Tommie Williams (R-Lyons). “We are beginning that road to serfdom ourselves.

Going back to the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, Williams said that in 1973, when the Supreme Court upheld a woman’s right to an abortion, more than 90 percent of the country was against it.

A statistic that Vincent Fort of Atlanta found dubious.

“In 1865, if you had taken a public opinion poll on slavery, I would still be in chains,” Fort said.  “What we are doing here is irresponsible, to use genocide and holocaust and allusions to death panels.  The underlying belief is that women of color cannot make decisions of themselves.”

Fort evoked both Abraham Lincoln and the Whig Party to talk about the Republican Party’s history. He said Senate Republicans were being hypocrites, by claiming to fight for the civil rights of black women, while refusing to back legislation to fight racial profiling. A racial profiling bill filed earlier this session by Gloria Butler of Stone Mountain never got out of committee.

Fort introduced an amendment to Pearson’s bill to address racial profiling, because “driving while black or brown is a risk.”

“The author of this bill says this is important to him to protect the rights of women of color,” Fort said. “If you care about civil rights, if you care about civil rights after birth, if you care about people who are racially profiled everyday, vote for this.”

Fort’s amendment was ruled unconstitutional, because it dealt with traffic and was not considered related to the abortion bill.

A second amendment, making it a criminal offense to interfere with a woman’s right to have an abortion, lost 13-28. A third amendment failed 13-32.

A motion to table the controversial bill was also rejected, 14-31.

Robbin Shipp of Planned Parenthood said the ruling is chilling and “invades the sanctity of a woman’s right to choose.”

Catherine Davis of Georgia Right to Life obviously felt otherwise.

“This is a great day in Georgia. We are one step closer to truly protecting women.”

76 comments Add your comment

Paulding

March 26th, 2010
2:21 pm

If you drive around the city of Atlanta and the state of Georgia you will see that the abortion center are usually placed in Black or Hispanic area. Which increases the abortion of black and hispanic babies. All this bill say is that this is a pratice that should be unlawful.

Rebecca

March 26th, 2010
2:30 pm

Absolute waste of time. Buffalo Chip Rogers should forfeit his salary. This GOP ‘lead’ state is in the toilet and the legislature is doing NOTHING about it.

DannyX

March 26th, 2010
2:33 pm

No, if you drive around Atlanta you will see that you are stuck in traffic.

Wondering…….’Why are my elected officials consumed with these ridiculous issues that pander to people like Paulding.” Guns, gays, abortion now healthcare pandering….

Budget? Transportation? Education? ETHICS???????

Is there anybody out there??????

North Fulton Mom

March 26th, 2010
2:36 pm

As a pro-choice Republican, I think this bill is a silly waste of time. It’s the woman’s body and how you prove that any woman was “coerced” into having something pulled out of her body is beyond me. Most woman I know would take an issue such as abortion very seriously.

Dunwoody Mom

March 26th, 2010
2:47 pm

Agree with NFM. The bill doesn’t pass constitutional muster and is unenforceable anyway. Also, Paulding, I don’t see how the location of an abortion clinic has anything to do with this bill. I like to think Black and Hispanic women are intelligent enough to make decisions about their health without state interference.

Michael Bryan

March 26th, 2010
2:50 pm

Republicans just have no clue nor conscience when it comes to governance, as usual. Do-nothing bunch of scumbags…

Shar

March 26th, 2010
2:59 pm

This is the same moron who wasted Georgia taxpayers’ money and our legislators’ time with his stupid bill outlawing forced insertion of microchips into people’s bodies. Doesn’t this imbecile understand that we are overwhelmed with issues of importance this session? C’mon, Dawsonville, take back your village idiot!

Brad

March 26th, 2010
3:01 pm

Scott

March 26th, 2010
3:02 pm

You liberals stink of hypocrisy! NONE of you Obama supporting clowns can EVER say anything about Republicans after the CORRUPT display that the Dems just displayed leading up to the healthcare vote. NO Republican has ever pushed through legislation with such a disgusting display or rank partisanship and corruption against the will of the people!

Mom of 3

March 26th, 2010
3:02 pm

This bill actually really offends me. I can’t be trusted to make decisions for my own body because I’m a woman??

Peckerwood

March 26th, 2010
3:03 pm

If there is an Obama/Biden sticker on the car than they should be encouraged to abort! Far too many of these bottom feeders out there. I say ABORT, ABORT, ABORT.

doesntaddup

March 26th, 2010
3:08 pm

Really Scott you should cool your jets your head is going to explode with all the rage. Remember how corrupt Delay was. Remember the lies and misinformation that got us in to two wars. Remember the exposure of a CIA agent by a member of Cheney’s staff. Do a little more research before you speak.

Kennesaw SAHM

March 26th, 2010
3:09 pm

Ok, guys, lay off the stupid rhetoric on both sides. Let’s stick to the bill itself. Personally, I think the bill, however well intentioned is fatally flawed because there’s absolutely no enforcement potential. We don’t need more lawsuits and court costs arguing over the definition of “coerce.” Also, I can’t be the only one that thinks its odd that Hispanics and Black women apparently are “coerced” when they choose to have abortions under this bill. This type of big government knows best is wrong on so many levels.

ERC

March 26th, 2010
3:16 pm

Perhaps if these women had better access to HEALTHCARE, they would be able to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, rather than choosing abortion. That said, I don’t believe these women are being coerced into having abortions and our legislature should find something better to do with their time and our money.

Alpharetta Mom

March 26th, 2010
3:16 pm

Lots of good posts on this blog. I agree with many of you – I really don’t think that any self respecting woman would ever be “coerced” into having an abortion. It’s a difficult situation for many women and not one that’s made on a whim. So, imo, the bill really is very insensitive in presuming that the state knows better than the woman what’s right for her body. But, also as someone familiar with federal statutes, a bill of this nature (broad, vaguely defined) will get thrown out as soon as it hits the courts. We have a budget crisis right now and need that million that will be spent on lawsuits.

Scott

March 26th, 2010
3:23 pm

I remember MOST of the Democrats supporting the resolution to authorize force in Iraq. Delay is also one man and NOT an entire elected party! At no time in Bush’s eight years can you or any other liberal point out a more corrupt, partisan vote than what was just seen! Nice try at deflecting but come November you and the rest of the “Yes We Can” morons who voted for that enept fool in the White House will hear us all loud and clear!!

Nikki

March 26th, 2010
3:31 pm

Cry all you want Scott! President Obama fulfilled a promise he made despite all the efforts to derail him. YES HE DID!!

Buckheader

March 26th, 2010
3:31 pm

I sent an email to my representative demanding that he send a message that women are more than capable of making decisions for themselves without second guessing from the state panels. Others should do the same.

Debora

March 26th, 2010
3:36 pm

If I were a woman of color I would be offended!! So black and hispanic women are too stupid to make decisions about their own bodies and reproductive rights?

Peachtree Girl

March 26th, 2010
3:41 pm

Do you guys not realize just how offensive this bill is to us women of color? The motivation of this bill is that we’re too dumb to make decisions without being coerced which should give people pause even before looking at the content of the bill.

The Chicago Way

March 26th, 2010
3:48 pm

Scott, Iran Contra. Period.

I’m sure you remember Oliver North.

I could go into COINTELPRO, but that may be too much for you.

Junior Samples

March 26th, 2010
3:50 pm

Anything to postpone ethics reform…
“Oops! It looks like we ran out of time. Who’s paying for dinner?”

The Chicago Way

March 26th, 2010
3:50 pm

“At no time in Bush’s eight years can you or any other liberal point out a more corrupt, partisan vote than what was just seen! ”

Medicare Part D was passed at 3 in the morning, after the 15 minute vote was held open for 3 hours until the House could get the necessary votes. Other than it being completely UNFUNDED with the cost left up to ‘our children and grandchildren’ (as conservatives and tea-baggers love to say) there was nothing wrong with.

Terry Schiavo?

Northside Indy

March 26th, 2010
3:51 pm

Isn’t the Republican party for individual freedom? Under this bill, won’t woman lose the freedom to make decisions for their own bodies?

Junior Samples

March 26th, 2010
3:52 pm

Scott, time for your meds

Road Scholar

March 26th, 2010
4:16 pm

Scott, where are the WMD from Iraq?

Carolyn

March 26th, 2010
4:17 pm

Scott-your inflammatory rhetoric is what is wrong with what is going on in this country right now… first you say NO Republican, then you say Tom Delay was one person— hello? Historically speaking what happens in politics is business as usual on both sides of the coin…. please- this is the way it works in politics- right or wrong… no party is exempt from the bad behavior that is exhibited daily…and whoever doesn’t get their way tries to scream and whine the loudest…ho hum… I’m an independent- time for a Moderate or better yet- Common Sense party…I can dream can’t I?

DannyX

March 26th, 2010
4:20 pm

Someone better yank this broken record quick.

In Georgia you are a Republican if you are for Big Government, except when you’re not. You are for bipartisanship, except when it applies to State government. Your are for ethics, ok….you don’t even pretend anymore, you want term limits, unless they are Republican, you give Obama two months yet blame the Dems 7 years later here in Ga, Family Values hit or miss, You are against North Fulton/Atlanta tax imbalance, but freely fork over way more to rural Georgia………………

Just don't agree

March 26th, 2010
4:42 pm

I’m a black female. Never been the target of being “coerced” to have an abortion. Don’t know anyone who has had that happen either. I think that this is just an attempt to “play the race card” to get support for something stupid.

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matchtuff

March 26th, 2010
5:17 pm

OMG whomever said we are following China down the road to socialism is a fool. That is a Communist Country!

sp

March 26th, 2010
5:29 pm

i don’t know about the bill, but it’s strange to me that aborting a baby comes down to a woman’s decision about her body – or oh yeah – her reproductive rights….

TheTruth

March 26th, 2010
5:29 pm

Let me get this right. We are worried about coercion when people are losing jobs. This is typical politics. Politicians find some stupid issue to avoid the real issues plaguing our country. I am truly disgusted to hear people calling themselves democrats or republicans. The only thing that political affiliation creates is political bickering, corruption, and blind allegiance. I believe we should start a new party called Americans. So our lame duck governor is concerned with building an 80+ million dollar horse barn in Houston County and state employees are being terminated by the thousands. Brilliant. It is time to fire all politicians.

Martin

March 26th, 2010
5:37 pm

Where is the Republicans’ feigned outrage over medical freedom at now?

This bill sounds like a direct violation of the First Amendment. You can’t “encourage” a woman to have an abortion? Even if you’re a doctor talking to a patient? Crazy.

Chuck

March 26th, 2010
5:46 pm

I just love how Republicans feel it is their moral duty to tell other people how to live their personal lives and pass laws that control other people’s bodies. They do this is drugs and sex too. This is the party about drug control whose last president used cocaine. The party that preaches of the sanctity of marriage who regularly cheat on their wives. The party of limited government that loves always seems to increase deficit spending. Conservatives that don’t conserve anything. In short, the party of hypocrisy.

Deborah

March 26th, 2010
5:49 pm

How dare HE even have a say about abortions. How many unwanted children has he adopted.

middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :

March 26th, 2010
5:58 pm

The only coercion here is a bunch of men trying once again to control women’s bodies and minds, especially of those not their wives. We have so much that needs attention why are the elected officials not doing something productive and trying to solve the real issues? Abortion, suing over a constitutionally decided federal bill…Republicans, fix the economic issues facing Georgia, no not by saying some people won’t be able to go to college (surely not your children but the black and brown people you are supposedly trying to “protect”) and you rant about illegal aliens but do nothing to send them home because you and your buds employ them or sell to them. You are spending precious moments of this session running other peoples’ lives (isn’t that socialism?) and trying to spend money on something that is doomed to failure instead of finding ways to keep our teachers and policemen and citizens employed. If the majority of your black colleagues are against this legislation are they too stupid to know what their constituencies want? You don’t know everything and you don’t represent this state very well but are trying to force your beliefs on the rest of us. As a citizen and elected official you do not have that right. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. But stop trying to make the rest of follow your rules and beliefs. If the Democrats regain control of the General Assembly do they get to pass a bill making it a crime not to encourage abortions? If you really want less Government and less of Big Brother controlling our lives you should stop to rule the world.

The Dude

March 26th, 2010
5:59 pm

This bill has nothing to do with “medical freedom.” It is aimed at those who push would be mothers to abort their babies when they don’t want to. Suprise, it has nothing to do with race or sexual orientation, so why has that even made it on to this board?

With that said, it is a waste of time and will be extremely hard to enforce.

VOTE THEM ALL OUT IN NOVEMBER!

The Dude

March 26th, 2010
6:08 pm

“You are spending precious moments of this session running other peoples’ lives (isn’t that socialism?)”

Actually socialism is an economic term that refers to the govt. running and controlling businesses. It has nothing to do with abortion, but more to do with a healthcare bill that has given the federal govt. control of almost 20% of our economy. You can also add govt control of the banking and auto industry in the country. That’s socialism.

JWN

March 26th, 2010
6:09 pm

@ Scott……..3:23 It’s inept, not enept, lmao. That’s what’s wrong with this Government in GA, it’s morons like you that are getting elected. Please use spell check! As for this bill, bottom line is, it’s funny how conservatives talk about how government should stay out of people’s lives, but are always trying to make people live the way they think we should be living. You people are a joke!!

Matt

March 26th, 2010
6:12 pm

So now the father cannot even voice his opinion, but some distant lawmaker with no relevance can?
Anyone lawmaker supports this bill is nothing more than a party pandering idiot. They are voting away our rights for their own political gain. We must dealing with an unwanted baby shortage that no one but these lawmakers is aware of.

Uncle Joe Liberty

March 26th, 2010
6:16 pm

The fact that we need a bill pointing out that forced abortion (not to mention ANY abortion) is a crime shows how lost this country is already. (and it wasn’t easy to pass this!)

willie

March 26th, 2010
6:16 pm

No…actually Scott nails it and you Socialists simply can’t or won’t see the truth. BTW…just what will be the new Democrat Socialist Party mascot? A Rat? Or maybe a worm?

TNT

March 26th, 2010
6:24 pm

This is the best that this Congress can come up with? We have need of genuine legislation and fixing a broken budget, but they grandstand for nothing?
When you think of a political party, remember that these guys always tell you that they are for you, but if you aren’t at least a millionaire, they just want to rule you and make sure their money is safe.
As for this SILLY LAW, it’s only a waste of time and money. Too vague and unenforceable.

Uncle Joe Liberty

March 26th, 2010
6:25 pm

BTW, no matter what side of an issue one is on, spell check police make me sick! Anybody can make a typo or accidentally use “their” instead of “there” (which most if not all spellcheckers won’t catch). We should also not be disturbed by those whose contributions are hopelessly riddled with error. Such cases clearly show their lack of intellectual capacity without our having to mention it. So please get a life you silly spellpeckers! (BTW, I did not use a spellchecker here, so enjoy yourselves; find the word that’s spelled wrong and apply it to yourself).

Matt

March 26th, 2010
6:33 pm

So now the father cannot even voice his opinion, but some distant lawmaker with no relevance can?
Any lawmaker who supports this bill is nothing more than a party pandering idiot. They are voting away our rights for their own political gain. We must be dealing with an unwanted baby shortage that no one but these lawmakers is aware of.

It’s a little tougher to comment from an iphone browser, I’m sure you wouldn’t understand.

Keepin' it in my pants

March 26th, 2010
6:39 pm

Yep Matt, you have no say if you get your g-fried preggers. That is a decision best left to the state! Oh, and I can’t wait to see the wars….woman accusing boyfriends of coercion and the payoffs guys have to give out to keep their butts out of jail.

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Skip

March 26th, 2010
6:54 pm

What is it with these GA Republicans? We give them a chance to rule and they spend their time dreaming up this crap.

I'm with Matt

March 26th, 2010
7:04 pm

On board. Party pandering idiots. Yes, the father should be involved. But more than that women have the right to abort. This bill will only cause heartache for women. Men will say “it was forced” if they want to cause her grief…and that’s all it takes to enforce, hearsay. BS on this. What a waste of time to try to move an agenda against Roe v Wade. I am very tired of hearing of men trying to control issues relating to women. He is not protecting female minorities- or any woman of any race. They will only suffer the backlash. Get out of our lives!

I am 60, white and female. And I had an abortion in the 1970s. Very difficult personal decision and I deeply resent this legislation. Not your business.

As a life long Georgian, I remain stunned at the people who run this state. So much for less government, and looking after the needs of the people. This bill had to be lobbied by folks who are against Planned Parenthood, (remember the big campaign against billboard that supposedly targeted minorities??) who seek to help women by providing options. Birth control is one of them. I am not willing to turn back the clock. And, there better be some women speaking up soon.

Ex-Georgia Native

March 26th, 2010
7:25 pm

And the republicans who push this type of legislation keep saying they are for smaller government and that the democrats are the party that try to legislate everyone lives.

BIOMASS

March 26th, 2010
7:38 pm

I have a great idea. Outlaw abortion, force females to have every child. The population will continue to skyrocket, and soon there will be 1B people in the US.

What a wonderful world it would be. I guess the gay priests could baby sit when needed.

pushpin

March 26th, 2010
7:59 pm

So…if I am mad at my mom or friend or significant other, I can go to an abortion clinic, tell them I am being forced to get an abortion and they will then arrest the person responsible and I have my revenge and a lot of lives are ruined by false accusations? I wonder if this scenario even entered their minds when they wrote this bill.

Proud GA Democrat

March 26th, 2010
8:17 pm

Uh, Scott … spitting on Congress members, death threats against Congress member’s children, absolutely vile, disgusting, unrepeatable comments left at the office of Bart Stupak wishing him death — are these Democrats? Don’t think so. They are people like you, who shoot up military bases, the Pentagon, and fly planes into IRS buildings because they are so riled up by your vile, hateful, and disgusting rhetoric. You and those like you are dangerous. Beware of stupid people in large numbers!!

Charlotte

March 26th, 2010
8:28 pm

This is totally disrepectful of all women. The idea that the men can protect us from ourselves and others is stupid and long since been proven false. . We fought long and hard to be able to vote and to have some degree of freedom in a very sexist society, now you want to Protect us. Republicans spend a lot of time thinking of ways to get people excited about things that are nor the Republican parties business like homosexuality, abortion rights, health care assistance and whatever they think will win another election for them. Where are all of those individual rights you keep talking about while all the time you are working hard to control what happens in my bedroom and my body. Adjourn and go home if that is all you boys have to talk about. Shame on you!

When our state is broke is a sorry time to spend debating abortion rights, gun toting and other such nonsense. No one is lining up all the women up and forcing them to have only one child.

Stop trying to control my body and my thoughts

BIOMASS

March 26th, 2010
8:50 pm

These forums always break down when the angry metro teachers start their Republican death chants. Predictable and boring.

DOC

March 26th, 2010
8:52 pm

How does this abortion law help any person in Georgia? Everyone understands that Republicans don’t give a damn about a childen once they are born. Does anyone ever notice besides me, that Republican only pass bills that affect NO one who can vote and will not cost them a dime. They will not touch education, transportation, housing, unemployment or low income Georgian. They want to give tax cuts to the unemployed. LOL! Shall I go on?

Ilene

March 26th, 2010
8:56 pm

“If there is one thing that we can do as legislators to protect the next generation it would be to make sure abortions are rare, un-coerced and not done to promote some type of agenda related to gender or race of the child,” Pearson said.”

Um, actually, the way to do that would be to provide that next generation with decent health care — funny, the Republicans are a bunch of hypocrits saying how much they want to protect the unborn child — yeah, until that child is born is has lots of people trying to protect it. Once it’s born — they’re pretty much on their own.

Current parent, former teacher

March 26th, 2010
9:00 pm

Safe. Legal. Rare. Sex, which is really where all of this starts, is complex and needs to be treated as such. If Georgia Right to Life wants to eliminate abortions, then stop being hypocritical and support comprehensive sex education that teaches our teens abstinence as well as contraceptive methods (and how they are used, how to obtain them, and truthful information about their effectiveness). And it would benefit all Georgians if birth control were easily accessible. Sex is a natural part of being a human. It should be consensual, never coerced and enjoyable by both parties. So let’s all take a breath and think about what this bill really says. It’s a shameful attempt to use race in a cynical way. We all must call our state representatives and urge them to get rid of this abominable bill.

Aboli

March 26th, 2010
9:46 pm

100000 welfare cases…..eliminated.

BIOMASS

March 26th, 2010
9:48 pm

Too many brain-dead Bible-thumpers in this state for any intelligent discourse on sex.

BIOMASS

March 26th, 2010
9:50 pm

We all know the Earth is only 4 thousand years old.

buildawall

March 26th, 2010
10:09 pm

Here’s a thought! Since liberals and conservatives are so divided on major issues, let’s conduct a test. Let’s split the country down the middle and have citizens pick their side; liberal or conservative. After about a ten year period we then take at look at the results to determine which society actually has it better. It is of my opinion that during this ten year test period, the conservatives would have to build a wall and man it with guns to keep the fleeing liberals from crossing back over illegally. Like I said, just a thought!

Look before I leap

March 26th, 2010
10:22 pm

Just a thought: Has there been a huge uptick in the number of coerced abortions in the state? Have we seen marches on the state capitol composed of thousands of women who claim they had unwated abortions?
Of all the ills in this state, is THIS issue one of the very few that will actually see effective legislative action this year?
Color me cynical, perhaps this is really a play by some conservatives to appeal to the far-right base due to political aspirations which may extend beyond the gold dome in Atlanta?

Look before I leap

March 26th, 2010
10:28 pm

This law would only make sense if it included a prohibition against coercing a female NOT to have an abortion as well.
If we want to bust the families, doctors, nurses and potential father’s-to-be for trying to talk a woman into havig an abortion, we should also bust the right-to-lifers, picketers, zealots (terrorists) who parade in front of the clinics, assault, shoot at or murder health-care professionals who work in abortion clinics.

Susan N. Watson

March 26th, 2010
10:59 pm

“Pearson said. ‘I have struggled with this as a father, as a Christian and as someone similar to you who represents around 100,000 newborns in this great state.’”

Senator Pearson, as a father and Christian, you may morally “coerce” your daughter(s) into having a child, against her/their will perhaps, but you have NO right to “coerce” my niece to have a child she may not be physically, psychologically, or financially able to support. The Supreme Court said that SHE may legally choose the course her life will follow . . .not you, not me, not the Georgia Legislature.

That is what your bill is. . .another form of coercion. . .coercion against coercion. . .ridiculous!

I do not believe you can abrogate a woman’s legal right to CHOOSE with your personal, subjective judgement based on your faith. Everyone who espouses the Right to Life philosophy should tend to their own children. . .let the rest of us care for ours.

Besides, art and music are being cut from the curriculum in our schools. . .do something about that. . .worry about the cutbacks in education and how that will affect the lives of our children.

rebelliousrose

March 27th, 2010
12:21 am

Scott, even the fool in question can probably correctly spell “inept”. If you can’t spell the big words, don’t use them. You just look dumb and undercut your argument.

Also, government can kiss my grits- I am a woman who makes my own money and my own decisions, and if I have to take my taxpaying womb out of Georgia to keep control of it,. then y’all enjoy my lost revenue contribution.

Don

March 28th, 2010
7:06 am

Read the whole bill. Senator Pearson only talks about paragraph (b) (1), read (b) (2)&(3) and you will see that SB 529 is un-constitutional and is in direct violation of the Supreme Court ruling. The Supreme Court ruled that the right to privacy found in the United States Constitution included the right of women to decide whether to have children. (Roe vs. Wade)
The Court ruled that in the first trimester of pregnancy, state laws and regulations may not interfere with a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy. This means that the decision to have an abortion is left in the hands of the woman and her health care provider. Section (b) (2) & (3) is in direct violation of the Supreme Court ruling.

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5:23 pm

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JustThink

March 29th, 2010
5:32 pm

Paulding – in urban areas, clinics are often placed where they can be accessible for those without easy, available transportation – the poor. Unfortunately the poor in urban areas are disproportionately minority peoples.

This is an attempt to hijack the pro-woman, pro-minority language of the left to pass an anti-choice measure. It’s really messed up and wrong to feign concern for peoples they regularly hurt and ignore.

decius

March 29th, 2010
6:55 pm

Wait… It starts out talking about “coercion” but implies that “Encouragement” is the same thing.

Coercion exists when an entity threatens to violate one of your rights if you exercise one of your rights. A clinic that advertises in Spanish (targeting hispanics), is not therby coercive. An activist in any way interfering with the normal operation of that clinic (say, by defacing said sign) IS.

Encouraging, as opposed to coercion, is offering someone something that they do not already have by right. Offering poor people discounted abortions is not coercion of any type. Since (race) makes up a plurality of the ‘poor’ population*, some would say that this is targeting (race).

*I’m not positive which race, and it might change depending on the definition of ‘poor’. But that some race is ‘poorest’ is a simple mathematical fact that does not itself imply a racial characteristic.

Beth

March 29th, 2010
10:41 pm

I think that all the previous commenters have said what I want to say. Choice belongs to the woman first and her family (and her god if she has one). It is so encouraging to see so many people thinking critically about this issue instead of just yelling “baby killer” at anyone who maintains control of her body. I guess the only thing left to say is that while I do love to hear old guys talk about the contents and lawful boundaries of my own uterus, they really should leave it up to the women/families to decide. After all, just because we have uteri doesn’t mean we are stupid or incapable of making decisions for ourselves or that we take said decisions lightly.

Lee

March 30th, 2010
2:53 am

This bill is sexist, racist, but not unenforceable. The “protecting women” angle is a smokescreen. They can’t stop the demand for abortion, so they are going after the source: the doctors.

If the doctors aren’t so intimidated by the law that they move or stop practicing, it won’t be long before someone like James O’Keefe (or worse, a real cop) does a “sting” operation at Planned Parenthood (complete with fake evidence) which will then be used to shut them down.

Toni Renee

April 6th, 2010
2:12 pm

Listen guys — if you’re not going to help me change my sanitary stuff during my periods, what right to do have to be in my panties regarding my pregnancies? My husband does and only my husband and I can make all the decisions we need about whether to have a child or an abortion. It’s mean, silly, and even zany for the Georgia legislature to waste valuable time trying to legislate my body and my family. Thanks to all the folks who stood up to defend women!

racsimstinks

April 7th, 2010
12:02 pm

Want to know more on the racist agenda of abortion watch the stunning and well documented film : Maafa21 Black Genocide in 21st Century America. It was a shocker and hard to listen to all the racist jargon – but very revealing and will give you pause before ever entering one of those clinics – check out a clip of Maafa21 here: http://www.maafa21.com

Lisa Rosario

April 18th, 2010
3:15 am

really, Good times?

Sounds like it is related to this story,

, said in a statement. “If that means taking certain states to court, so be it.” Its not clear which states, if any, are failing to comply.

http://www.unitedstatespolitical.com/state/senator-urges-govt-to-enforce-law-aimed-at-voting.html