Updated write-thru: Oxendine’s son accidentally shot man on hunting trip

By Cameron McWhirter and Aaron Gould Sheinin

The 13-year-old son of Republican gubernatorial candidate John Oxendine shot and wounded a 59-year-old man Sunday while hunting on a North Georgia preserve owned by a prominent insurance executive with close political ties to Oxendine.

The victim was hit with 30 pellets in his right leg. Oxendine, the state’s insurance commissioner since 1995, was hunting with his teenage sons at the Northwest Georgia Quail Preserve, co-owned by Delos “Dee” Yancey III, who is CEO of State Mutual Insurance Co., based in Rome.

“I still believe in hunting and I still believe in guns,” Oxendine said Wednesday. “I still will hunt and my family will still hunt.”

On Tuesday, when the Atlanta Journal-Constitution  first learned of the shooting, Oxendine’s staff said only that Oxendine himself was not the shooter or the victim. Oxendine said Wednesday that he did not identify his son as the shooter because he wasn’t sure until the DNR report came out. The report says four hunters fired at the same quail. Oxendine was positioned near his son at the time of the shooting.

A preliminary report from the Department of Natural Resources, obtained by the AJC, lists the victim as Russell M. Robertson, Jr., 59, of Chickamauga. Robertson could not be reached for comment. Oxendine said Robertson is “a longtime friend” and an employee of Walker County, where the shooting took place. According to the report, Oxendine’s son shot Robertson about 4:15 p.m. Sunday when Oxendine and other members of his party flushed a quail. The bird flew over the party and toward a group of observers about 30 yards away. The report says the four hunters all fired at the bird.

The DNR report says a 14-year-old accidentally shot Robertson in the right leg, but does not name the boy.  Late Wednesday afternoon, Oxendine’s campaign confirmed to the AJC that one of his sons was the shooter. The Oxendine campaign said the boy is 13.  Oxendine said his son has not had gun safety training.

After Robertson was blasted in the leg, one of the men drove Robertson to the Redmond Regional Medical Center in Rome, were he was treated for pellet wounds. A DNR agent interviewed Robertson at the hospital. DNR is continuing its investigation.

Neither Oxendine nor his sons have hunting licenses, however state records show that the preserve has a blanket license that allows people to hunt without an individual license.Update 8:40 p.m.: DNR records show Oxendine, who has been an avid proponent of hunting and gun rights in his gubernatorial campaign, did not not have a hunting license until September 2008, which expired after a year, and DNR said he did not renew the license. Oxendine said he bought a dove hunting license last year, but for some reason is did not show up in DNR’s database. He also said he has had hunting licenses in other states and all of his hunting in Georgia has been on preserves where individual licenses were not needed.

from the web site: I remain unapologetic and offer unqualified support of the Second Amendment. I will always have an appetite to protect and defend the Second Amendment.
[3:34:48 PM] Aaron Gould Sheinin: I am a proud Life Member of the National Rifle Association, the Georgia Sports Shooting Association, GeorgiaCarry.org, and Gun Owners of America.

Asked if the shooting accident changed his view of guns or hunting, Oxendine said no. He said his son feels bad about shooting Robertson. Oxendine said his family spent Sunday and Monday relaxing at Yancey’s preserve, but after his son shot Robertson, they didn’t hunt.

“Accidents happen,” he said. “I think it’s simply a good object lesson. Hunter safety is a process…It’s unfortunate.”

Oxendine said he asked Yancey if he could hunt with him on his property. Yancey is a longtime donor to Oxendine’s campaigns. Last May, The AJC reported that State Mutual Life Insurance and Admiral Life Insurance Company of America, both headed by Yancey, funneled $120,000 through a series of political action committees to Oxendine’s campaign in 2008. Oxendine denied any knowledge of the donations and returned the money. The State Ethics Commission is investigating.

Asked why he went hunting with Yancey, Oxendine said: “We’re friends. I hunt with friends. I simply called him up and said ‘hey, what are you doing this weekend? You want to go shoot a couple of birds?’ And he said, ‘Sure.’ ”

Yancey did not return calls seeking comment.

Corporate records filed with the Georgia Secretary of State show that the preserve’s office address is the same Rome post office box used by State Mutual Insurance Co.

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205 comments Add your comment

chris

January 20th, 2010
2:12 pm

No Ox, you are no Dick Cheney. Praise the Lord that the almighty Ox wasn’t harmed.

TOBE

January 20th, 2010
2:16 pm

Whatever

January 20th, 2010
2:19 pm

Why is this news? It was an accident and the child is probably very upset over what happened. What comments do they want from Oxendine other than it was a hunting accident. Give me a break.

Sick&Tired

January 20th, 2010
2:23 pm

I want him to “Just SAY NO TO GUNS”. It’s just an example of what can happen if a gun falls into the wrong hands. Yes, accidents do happen and this is an excellent example.

Annie Oaklie

January 20th, 2010
2:24 pm

I bet Ox put one of his redlights on his car to get to the hospital. Way to go OX! You da man!

Good Government

January 20th, 2010
2:24 pm

You have got to be kidding me. You can’t make this stuff up. This guy has no business running for any office. Who goes hunting w/ out a license? Only an ignorant man like John Oxendine.

Who takes over $120K in illegal contributions from phony PACs from the same address? Only an ignorant man like John Oxendine.

I repeat – a vote for John Oxendine is a vote for Roy Barnes.

Beck

January 20th, 2010
2:27 pm

Whatever – does it not interest you at all that the Insurance Commissioner for GA was hunting on land owned by an executive of an insurance company?

Insurance affects EVERYONE and Oxendine is trying to run for governor. We need to see where his loyalties lie.

Red

January 20th, 2010
2:32 pm

Let me get this straight. The candidate was already scrutinized for ties with this guy and then he goes with this guy hunting? Why are you still tying yourself to people and industries that make you look shady and questionable? And then hunt without a license? Are you clueless? Are you trying to deliberately make yourself look above everyone else? And does keeping a clean image matter? Conservatives , including myself, rail against politicians’ ties to special interests and then you go and do this. What a clown.

[...] AJC colleagues Aaron Gould Sheinin and Cameron McWhirter have the details on this over at Gold Dome Live: The man wounded while hunting Sunday with Republican candidate for governor John Oxendine and [...]

Storm8

January 20th, 2010
2:36 pm

Is this why he missed the debate last night? These Republican don’t believe in gun control, but sure like to blow awy their friends.

Please

January 20th, 2010
2:38 pm

This is more news than Tiger Woods. At least to me it. This is a person that we have to vote for that may end up being responsible for making decisions for the people of Georgia. What he does and how he conducts business is definitely an interest to the people of this state. Beck I agree with you. Why is Oxenide hunting with a lobbyist?

Ron Vinson

January 20th, 2010
2:40 pm

The Ox keeping his name in the papers again…. Good thing he was hunting on private land owned by an insurance executive…..the same one who funnelled $120 large to him through the pac. That way he doesn’t need a license, after all everyone knows it’s just another tax and the ox is above that.

Say wha?!

January 20th, 2010
2:42 pm

So Ox is out cavorting with the CEO of an insurance company that WE THE PEOPLE paid Ox to regulate. Wow. This man cares NOTHING for the people of Georgia and EVERYTHING for his own wallet.

Jennifer

January 20th, 2010
2:42 pm

I’m certainly no Oxendine supporter but apparently some of you are challenged, because the article says he doesn’t have to have a license to hunt on the private reserve.
To the question of why does he tie himself to people and industries that make him look shade…the guy IS shady.

In 2006, Oxendine had demanded that several cab companies obtain new insurance, which they did, and this benefitted Oxendine’s big campaign contributors. Robert Waterhouse was falsely arrested on account of Oxendine for allegedly running a bogus cab insurance agency. Mr. Waterhouse’s assets were frozen because of Oxendine.

I just don’t understand how he can continue to be elected for ANYTHING.

Reggie Reg

January 20th, 2010
2:44 pm

Everyone should know by now that Oxy is above the law. How that man is still insurance commish is a mystery. This whole thing reeks of impropieties…I’m sure there will more to follow.

Jennifer

January 20th, 2010
2:44 pm

My bad. It was in 2005, not 2006.

Darth Hater

January 20th, 2010
2:46 pm

Mr. Oxendine:

Could you please take Nancy Pelosi hunting with you next time?

jeff

January 20th, 2010
2:51 pm

Ox has done a great job as insurance commissioner for the people of Georgia keeping rates reasonable.

Jason

January 20th, 2010
2:52 pm

Get the feeling that Ox is trying to avoid the elitist label and be “just one of the guys” and is failing miserably? Tell us again Ox who UGA played this year in which bowl game. Have you ever watched a game from someplace other than a luxury skybox?

Goober

January 20th, 2010
2:52 pm

Who will vote a jerk for gov. who makes his kid and 3 others shoot at 1 bird with a GUN? Ox has buddies with huntin’ land like Sinny has buddies with swampland and fishin’ holes for sale. Gosh we even elected a prez who listened to 3 sermons in 20 years from a racist. What next?

Rob Miller

January 20th, 2010
2:55 pm

Don’t text and hunt! lol

Glenn

January 20th, 2010
2:56 pm

Who goes hunting without a Hunting License, the “insurance policy” that tells the authorities that what you’re doing is legal, here, in the State of GA? Why John Oxendine, our very own State Insurance Commissioner. Go figure.

Bob Gilliland

January 20th, 2010
2:56 pm

Let me see if I have this straight. The shooting happened in either Walker or Dade county and they drove the injured man all the way down to Rome in Floyd county? With no traffic and taking I-75, that would be more than an hour drive away. Why didn’t they take him to Erlanger in Chattanooga or one of the Hutchinson hospitals in the area? For an Atlanta perspective, this would be like getting shot down in Clayton county but driving all the way to Kennesaw for treatment. The shooting victim is from Chickamauga, he’d darn sure know that Erlanger or Hutchinson were a hell of a lot closer than Redemond all the way down in Rome. The explanations they are giving don’t make sense to this country boy (who grew up in that neck of the woods).

Loraine Quiche

January 20th, 2010
2:56 pm

sounds like quail subterfuge…

A

January 20th, 2010
2:57 pm

This is exactly why guns should be banned!

No Regrets

January 20th, 2010
2:58 pm

Serves him right, the troubles that are now upon him, seeing as how he is runnig for Govenor, but choose this weekend to go on a Hunting trip , instead of making a guest appearence at one of the events to honor Dr. King……………………..God dont like UGLY!!!

PoliticOracle

January 20th, 2010
3:01 pm

Oxendine should’ve participated in some of the MLK events on Monday or done some type of community service. Instead, he went out on a hunting excursion with some insurance industry fatcats he’s supposed to be regulating on the Georgia citizenry’s behalf. Now that’s leadership!

If we can’t have Barnes back, i’ll take Karen Handle. She seems to have some ethical sense about her.

NO OXENDON’T!

[...] The paper now says the man was actually “sprayed” in the leg — not the face — and that the shooter was [...]

UGA1954

January 20th, 2010
3:03 pm

I love how Mr. Oxendine has alleged to be such an avid hunter; but; DNR records show that Mr. Oxendine has not been a licensed hunter from 2000 through 2010. It’s also interesting that his campaign office/staff will not return phone calls. Wonder why?

Atl_Finest

January 20th, 2010
3:03 pm

For the idiot who asked, “WHY IS THIS NEWS” a man was shot multiple times. Shootings are always news. Not to mention the child’s father is running for Gov of a state. So it goes from being local news to national. I bet the idiot who asked, “Why is this news” is a Republican.

WTH?

January 20th, 2010
3:04 pm

Darth Hater he can take the entire house and senate with him, both state and federal!

Common Sense

January 20th, 2010
3:06 pm

He did have a license. What part of “blanket license covering all hunters on private land” dont you understand?

Tar Heel

January 20th, 2010
3:06 pm

Sure hope his insurance premiums were paid.

tc

January 20th, 2010
3:08 pm

Ox in the ditch, again.

Lucas

January 20th, 2010
3:10 pm

Red’s comment above has my complaint. I don’t give a hoot that he didn’t have a license. But man – why still hang out with this guy you already got heat over?

Republican Voter

January 20th, 2010
3:11 pm

Who’d vote for that nut anyhow. I am a Republican and I have never voted for him!!!

Mandy

January 20th, 2010
3:13 pm

Put aside his father’s political career for the moment. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT ! His son is a child ! I am sure this was not a planned act. I am sure he did not wake up that morning and say the hell with hunting quail, I want to shoot and innocent observer ! Find something better to write about. Something informative, something that matters. Because now and innocent kid, we have to career this around the rest of his life.

Friend of Animals

January 20th, 2010
3:13 pm

The kid shot someone. That sounds like it should be illegal regardless of whether it happened while hunting. Why is it that Georgia allows teenagers to hunt without taking a safety course? If they’re too young to drive a car, they are certainly too young to carry a gun.

Sarah Palin's Rack

January 20th, 2010
3:14 pm

It’s in the constitution!

Get Real

January 20th, 2010
3:15 pm

People who are very uneducated should refrain from showing their ignorance by posting comments on here!

Hunting without a license. Duh, he was hunting on a quail preserve and he did not need a license nor did anyone else in his hunting party. The preserve has a blanket license that covers all customers, just like a Captain’s license covers all customers on a boat but I guess geeks and liberals don’t do manly things like hunt and fish or they would know this already!

And, if you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. No one is forcing you to own one! IF you don’t believe in the second amendment you can kiss my A$$!

Violent Crime Increased When Countries Banned Guns

Gun-control advocates conveniently ignore the fact that the countries with the highest homicide rates have gun bans, says researcher John R. Lott Jr. The three worst public shootings in the past year all occurred in Europe, which has enacted everything American gun-control proponents favor.

Around the world, from Australia to England, countries that have recently strengthened gun-control laws with the promise of lowering crime have instead seen violent crime soar.

In the four years after the United Kingdom banned handguns in 1996, gun crime rose by an astounding 40 percent.
Since Australia’s 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51 percent, unarmed robberies by 37 percent, assaults by 24 percent and kidnappings by 43 percent.
While murders in Australia fell by 3 percent, manslaughter rose by 16 percent.
Finally, he notes, there exists not one single academic study showing that the federal Brady Act, assault-weapons bans, state waiting periods, background checks, one-gun-a-month rules or safe-storage laws reduce violent crime. Some research even finds that these rules increase crime.

Source: John R. Lott Jr. (American Enterprise Institute), “Gun laws don’t reduce crime,” USA Today, May 9, 2002.

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
3:15 pm

@ Common, Oxendine didn’t have a hunting license. He borrowed a temporary one from a shady insurance exec involved in illegal contributions to his campaign.

Tech82

January 20th, 2010
3:15 pm

Sick&Tired – Accidents happen in automobiles everyday. Should we just say no to them as well? This was an accident – pure and simple.

Get Real

January 20th, 2010
3:19 pm

BTW, why should he be forced into celebrating MLK Day! It’s his business what he does with his time off!

EW

January 20th, 2010
3:19 pm

A kid accidentally shoot someone while quail hunting. How is this a political issue again? Oh yeah this backwards rag of a newspaper likes to push anything that could be remotely negative about a conservative politician. When will I learn to just not click on stupid BS like this.

DAVID-AJC Truth detector

January 20th, 2010
3:23 pm

AMAZING…It toook the Atlanta-Obama-Journal (3) times to get the story acccurate…Three times.

Realist

January 20th, 2010
3:27 pm

Who’d vote for Oxendine. He is way outta touch with Georgians. Vote for Deal or Handal.

Tech82

January 20th, 2010
3:28 pm

aquagirl @ 3:15 writes, “@ Common, Oxendine didn’t have a hunting license. He borrowed a temporary one from a shady insurance exec involved in illegal contributions to his campaign”

Get your facts straight. Oxendine didn’t “borrow” anything. He was hunting on a commercially licensed property, thus no idividual license was required from anybody there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

bart

January 20th, 2010
3:28 pm

Of course this is an unfortunate accident. However, there are some red flags in this incident. First, the fact that he is schmoozing with fat cats from an industry he is supposedly regulating is very suspicious. Second, the fact that he kept lying about the facts of the incident and that he lied about having a hunting license puts his veracity in question. Third, why wasn’t he at the Republican debate anyway? Fourth, he should have been attending some MLK event. After all, the guy is running for governor, and even though he has advocated seceding from the Union, you would think he would at least pretend to want to represent black people as well as his right wing and rich friends.

Debdoes

January 20th, 2010
3:29 pm

It’s all fun and games until you put an eye out! The news was the PAC (Insurance) that donates so much money to his campaign…Mr. Insurance Commish…oh sure, like you didn’t know! Then why are you hunting on his land, huh?

Debdoes

January 20th, 2010
3:30 pm

p.s. The AJC was digging for dirt…they found it!

Lee

January 20th, 2010
3:30 pm

To Good Government …. who would you recommend for governor? I will vote Republican but I also don’t want to vote for any candidate who is a hand puppet of Perdue.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 20th, 2010
3:30 pm

David, what are you talking about? It was our reporting that forced the issue. We updated and changed the story as newer information became available. It was however, always accurate.

read it again

January 20th, 2010
3:30 pm

what part of he didn’t need a hunting license do you jack asses that keep saying he didn’t have one did you not get?

joey

January 20th, 2010
3:31 pm

Why were 4 people shooting at the same quail and how close to you have to be to put 30 birdshot into one guys leg?

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 20th, 2010
3:32 pm

EW, I beg to differ. The kid, as you called him, and his father were hunting on land owned by a major player in the insurance industry who funneled more than $120K to Oxendine’s campaign, while Oxendine was responsible for regulating the man’s business. The same money Oxendine said he knew nothing about but later returned and is now the subject of an ethics commission inquiry. All that = news.

RUKidding

January 20th, 2010
3:33 pm

What a tragedy, if Ox can’t teach his kid gun safety, how is he capable of running the state. He continues to be associated with Yancey as well. That is not the kind of judgement or leadership that Georgia needs. Add to that – he hasn’t had a hunting license in 10 years!

Ox for the good of your family, and good of the state, drop out now.

RUKidding

January 20th, 2010
3:36 pm

Aaron – Your right it is news, great job digging up the facts in the evolving story

Joltin' Joe

January 20th, 2010
3:38 pm

Say it isn’t so? What’s next, John denying that in 2008 and 2009 that health insurance senior managers were not “encouraged” to contribute to his campaign for governor?

RUKidding

January 20th, 2010
3:41 pm

JJ,
Actually, Ox tweeted about a meeting with independent insurance brokers today, I wonder how much he shook them down for.

Rectal Bleeding

January 20th, 2010
3:41 pm

I am amazed of the arguments used to allow the average dim wit access to guns. A comment above made reference to automobile accidents happening every day and should we ban cars?….No, it’s not the cars or the guns, but the all too easy access to them. It should equally difficult to obtain a drivers license as it is a license to own a gun. Yeah, more people are killed on the highways then by guns, but only because there are more cars. Most people are too dumb to drive, which means most are too dumb to safely own a gun. Every New Years Eve…..We have accidents with drunk drivers and shootings by dumb people firing their guns in to the air. Take away the easy access and ALL of our lives will be better. That is in the Constitution way before the second amendment.

Jules

January 20th, 2010
3:42 pm

If Ox hadn’t been such a moron and has his blue lights taken away, he could have gotten the man to the hospital even faster! LOL

This guy is a joke yet he leads in the polls. scary

Oxendine for Gov

January 20th, 2010
3:43 pm

People….It was an accident. The kid honestly thought he was shooting at Al Franken.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 20th, 2010
3:44 pm

Hey, Read It Again, I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth, but the feeling I’m getting from people is when they mention his not having a license, it’s more about the fact that as such an avid outdoorsman, lifetime NRA member, etc., etc., that it seems he ought to have a license if all that is true. But again, that’s j ust how I took it.

back roads

January 20th, 2010
3:44 pm

No, I do not think it was simple or pure. It was almost predictable due to the setting. I betcha it happened a lot different than the story(s) that were told. I do not think that the Ox is capable of speaking the truth. His record is not very good.

Tech82

January 20th, 2010
3:45 pm

PoliticOracle – Where in the article does it say that Oxendine was hunting on MLK day? According to the article, the shooting happened at 4:15pm on SUNDAY.

You people are very adept at flying off half-cocked and slinging mud on anyone whose positions you disagree with. Sadly, your arguments seem to lack any basis in fact.

Oxendine's record

January 20th, 2010
3:45 pm

Is a top 40 hit!

Glenn

January 20th, 2010
3:45 pm

EVEN if there WAS a blanket hunting license on the property, why would someone “RISK” hunting without one? What if they wandered off of the property ACCIDENTALLY and actually shot something besides a PERSON? Isn’t that what INSURANCE is all about?

Oxendine for Gov

January 20th, 2010
3:48 pm

Glenn? Why would anyone hunt for blankets when you can get them at Wal Mart?

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
3:48 pm

@ Tech, any way you slice it, he isn’t a licensed hunter. No he didn’t need a license to hunt on a private preserve. A twelve year old can drive an ATV legally, that hardly makes the kid a licensed driver.

I believe the original point was that Oxendine claims to be such a big hunting enthusiast, yet hasn’t bothered to get a license for whatever reason. Which might include “don’t need one, have enough sleazy friends’” or “just saying I’m a big hunting nut to appeal to rednecks.”

Atl_Finest

January 20th, 2010
3:49 pm

So what, it’s an accident. It’s still news. If anyone on this board accidently shot anyone it would be news. If you think a candidate for Gov should be excluded, you are obviously a Republican. It should be news if it’s a Rep, Dem, Gay, Straight, dog or cat. I personally hope this teenager never pick up another gun in his life (except to defend his home) but I doubt it.

Oh How FUNNYY!!

January 20th, 2010
3:49 pm

Funny because nobody was seriously hurt but this story has so many angles in it! You have the fox watching over the hen house and the Oxendine followers can’t see the irony there? He is supposed to be the watchdog for ALL of us in this state – to protect us from the Insurance Industry – not to befriend the Insurance industry. People, think about this! The poor kid, I’m sure he feels bad but what in the world are you doing with a 14 year old in the woods, with a gun, because you have to assume if daddy didn’t have a license, neither did junior. I hope the guy who got shot will be OK, I hope Oxendine gets his story straight before he looks even worse than the fool he appears to be, and I hope this is a lesson for all voters. Don’t put a man in office who really isn’t watching after the good citizens of Georgia who really can’t defend themselves against corporate America!

Barbara

January 20th, 2010
3:49 pm

Oops, that’s why he didn’t show up for M.L.King Memorial. I bet in his mind that he wished he had come now, and who care’s if is son is 13 or 14 he shouldn’t had a rifle period. They need to be more careful when you’re going to hunt harmless animals.

Cutty

January 20th, 2010
3:54 pm

If this had been Roy, those same defenders of Ox would be calling for him to drop out. It’s obvious he’s in the pocket of the insurance companies, and that won’t change if he’s elected Governor. Common sense.

Quails against guns

January 20th, 2010
3:54 pm

Anyone ever ask what the Quail thinks of all this?

Cutty

January 20th, 2010
3:55 pm

I like Austin Scott in the debate last night. He understood the issues, and even called out Deal for his involvement in the birther movement.

GoOx

January 20th, 2010
3:59 pm

My man Ox, I’m speechless on this one.

Glenn

January 20th, 2010
4:00 pm

Oxendine for Gov – It’s Wabbitt season!

back roads

January 20th, 2010
4:02 pm

The AJC guys need to check out these so called private hunting plantations…some are just plain tax dodgers for private purposes on the tax payers cuff. If they dig deep enough they mightl find some rich dirt. Some are on leased public utility property. Tax exempt.

Oxendine for Gov

January 20th, 2010
4:02 pm

Look, the only reason Oxendine is so close to Yancey is to keep a better eye on his dealings. It’s a hands on approach to doing his job. You all are not being fair to Oxendine.

Pompano

January 20th, 2010
4:07 pm

Too bad the kid didn’t shoot the Ox’s dad – the crooked judge scoundrel that’s mixed up in one of these shady land deals here in Gwinnett county. They now have two generations of family ripping off the citizens of GA – what a pathetic family.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 20th, 2010
4:07 pm

Wow. Even GoOx is taken aback by this.

[...] Here’s update on the man accidentally shot in John Oxendine’s hunting party yesterday. The AJC has learned that the shooter was Oxendine’s 13 year old son. [...]

Change in Georgia

January 20th, 2010
4:13 pm

Vote for Roy Barnes… Ox need to be in jail.

Sit N Spin

January 20th, 2010
4:15 pm

Just how hungry is Oxendine if he has to hunt for his food? Memo to Ox…..Go to a GROCERY store……

Pompano

January 20th, 2010
4:27 pm

Just because Ox is an idiot is no reason to vote for a bigger (and more arrogant) idiot – King Rat Roy Barnes.

Time for some new blood all around

NottaDawg

January 20th, 2010
4:33 pm

The fact that Oxendine’s son accidentally shot someone on a hunting trip is not big news. Sorta like Tiger Woods having a minor traffic accident…

But the fact that they were hunting on land owned by someone in an industry that Oxendine is supposed to be regulating, and that person had previously been implicated in some shady campaign dealings makes this a much bigger story.

And maybe Oxendine really does like to hunt, and that’s not just a ploy to get voters to think he’s one of the boys. Maybe he’s been hunting on this guy’s land all these years, so he never needed a license.

gatorman770

January 20th, 2010
4:33 pm

With over 30 million hunters and 80 million or more gun owners, there’s bound to be a few accidents and even deaths, but hunting and gun related accidents and deaths are far less than accidents and deaths from skate boarding, bicyling, etc. and many other such recreational activities according to the National Safety Council.

Red

January 20th, 2010
4:33 pm

Wow. This has turned into some 2nd Amendment debate. Are you people clueless that he’s out getting more favors with a guy he’s already had to publicly distance himself from? He’s already taken flak for coddling this special interest. He’s taken flak for cozying up to groups he is supposed to regulate. The guy gets reamed and then goes on some potentially free trip to discuss who knows what. Did he just forget who just dropped out of the Speaker’s chair? I guess the concept of being above reproach means nothing. And I guess people are more concerned over turning this into some gun argument over the fact that a guy is running for office who could care less about keeping his nose clean and out of the realm of special interests. He’s bought and paid for.

chris

January 20th, 2010
4:38 pm

“First, Oxendine spokesman David Crim told the AJC that the shooter was an adult. The DNR report says it was a 14 year old. Second, Crim said Oxendine previously had a hunting license, but DNR records show Oxendine has not been a licensed hunter from 2000 through 2010.”

What a lying POS. Can you imagine the lack of transparancy this creep would bring to the Governor’s mansion? Georgians should be outgraged by this bozo.

Sarah Palin's Rack

January 20th, 2010
4:38 pm

Typical for liberals to make this a gun issue and attack a great man like John Oxendine. Who are you to say which people he can have as friends? This is not Russia. Obama has you all brain washed.

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
4:41 pm

The reason that they drove halfway across the state for medical treatment is that they were too blind-stinking drunk to find the local hospital and needed some driving time to sober up…duh. And they had to drop off the prostitutes in Atlanta as well as coach everybody to get their stories straight.

I love the use of the term ‘Sprayed’ for getting shot with a shotgun….while birdshot is much more pleasant than buckshot, getting hit with anything that comes out of the business end of a shotgun is getting shot, period.

Only in Georgia could a guy who is the insurance commissioner get $2.6 Million in campaign contributions from insurance companies, and we think that’s OK. This guy Yancey sets up ten different PACs in Alabama, and gives Oxendine a contribution of $12,000 from each one. Somehow Oxendine did not notice that all ten contributions came from the same address….oh really? Only the AJC spotted that.

Rob Vinson

January 20th, 2010
4:42 pm

GoOx it’s good to see your comment….it cracked me up! The Ox…simply above reproach!!! His coat is like teflon…nothing seems to stick to it

gatorman770

January 20th, 2010
4:43 pm

With over 30 million hunters and over 80 million gun owners, there’s always a chance for a gun accidents or deaths, but according to the National Safety Council, hunting and gun accidents are far fewer that accidents and deaths from such activities as skateboarding and bicycling.

lmno

January 20th, 2010
4:44 pm

Does anyone here know how quail preserves work? I do. I worked on one once. There is no sport in it. The quail are all tame birds. They are raised in cages and when they are old enough, they are dropped off all over the property in coveys. The preserves have dogs that are well trained to stir the birds into the air when the “hunters” approach either on foot or horse back.

In south west Georgia, where I grew up, these places are everywhere.

They are used to entertain and conduct business. It works much like a golf course. Except hunting on a preserve like this would be like golfing on a course with 10 foot diameter holes to putt in.

Oxendine is no outdoorsman. He is a phoney.

But all of that is a side story. The real story is that this land was Yancey’s.

SHORT BUS

January 20th, 2010
4:45 pm

Gatorman you are repeating yourself.

godless heathen

January 20th, 2010
4:46 pm

If you are under 16 you don’t have to have a license to hunt with an adult.

You don’t have have license to have a gun in Georgia, even a handgun. You must have a Concealed Weapon Permit to carry a concealed weapon.

The DNR database on hunting licenses is so screwed up I wouldn’t trust the results of any query ran on it.

As to the overall accuracy of the newspaper report, recall Lewis Grizzard’s comment when asked why the newspaper can’t be more accurate in the reporting, “The paper don’t cost but a quarter.”

If you ever read a newspaper report about an event or situation that you have personal knowledge about, you will note that half of it is wrong. So it is safe to assume the same is true when reading about things of which you have no personal knowledge.

What?

January 20th, 2010
4:48 pm

Half is wrong? Please. Stop with the hyperbole.

godless heathen

January 20th, 2010
4:50 pm

OK, not half. Most.

Elin Woods

January 20th, 2010
4:50 pm

Men are pigs!

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
4:52 pm

But the part that is right: that an elected official is hanging out with the guy who gave him over a $100,000 in illegal campaign contributions…..that’s the story.

Maybe the guy who got shot did not want to write a big enough campaign contribution? So they shot him to teach him a lesson.

lmno

January 20th, 2010
4:52 pm

And its very annoying that Barnes is considered the lock for the Democrats.

You have a guy with a resume of two terms as Secretary of State, Adjudant General of the GA National Guard, Labor Commissioner, and is a retired Lieutenant General.

At the least, take a look at David Poythress. His resume demands that you at least consider him for the job.

What?

January 20th, 2010
4:53 pm

So let me get this straight……You complain about the accuracy of stories in the AJC, yet make a spurious statement in doing so……

Next time, come better prepared.

David Poythress

January 20th, 2010
4:54 pm

No, don’t vote for me.

JON

January 20th, 2010
4:55 pm

No fan of Ox. He used his red emergency light in his state bought car that he was told not to buy. He is a CROOK. We need a true conservative to run and not Ox who thinks he is above the law and thinks he is better than everybody else.

Mike

January 20th, 2010
5:01 pm

All I know is I can’t wait to not vote for Oxendine.

bart

January 20th, 2010
5:01 pm

Of course this is an unfortunate accident. However, there are red flags. First, what is Oxendine doing schmoozing with a fat cat he’s supposed to be regulating? That’s very suspicious. Second, he lied about what happened and he lied when he said he had a license. That puts his veracity into question. Third, the guy is runnning for governor. Why wasn’t he attending one of the many MLK celebrations? Of course, this is a guy who has supported secession from the Union, so maybe he doesn’t care about Black votes.

back roads

January 20th, 2010
5:01 pm

Is the land Yanceys’? I betcha it is in the name of an LLC org with unlisted members or group. Honest…the AJC needs to look into these type sites. Private, no entry by lawmen or DNR, no business liscense needed, just a small license fee from the DNR. Drink, smoke what you will. Poison the fox and other preditors that eat quail eggs.

Haha

January 20th, 2010
5:04 pm

This is absolutely hilarious!

clayton fowler

January 20th, 2010
5:06 pm

to sick n tired
WRONG!! Do you want to take away cars that is in the wrong hands? how would you know until an accident happens? all accidents are not DUI and they just made a simple mistake. that young man will take this accident, learn from it and be a more “controlled” hunter from now on. I would not think twice about it to go hunting with this young man. He’ll be safer now than you are!!!!!

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:08 pm

backroads: Yes, the land belongs to Yancey. Yancey is the guy who setup ten political action committees in Alabama, so he could give Oxendine $12,000 from each of the ten PACs ($120,000), which is 100% illegal. Oxendine “said” he did not notice that all ten contributions came from the SAME ADDRESS. Right. Oxendine got over $2.6 Million in campaign contributions from the ‘employees of insurance companies’ (since it is illegal for the companies to send him money). Right. This guy is dirtier than the bottom of the cages those quails live in….and some people want him to be governor?

Saint Clarkston

January 20th, 2010
5:16 pm

Why is it news? Because the man elected to oversee and regulate the insurance industry
in Georgia is actually taking perks from that industry.

saulgood

January 20th, 2010
5:18 pm

Killing is fun. Killing is a SPORT that Rethuglicans like. No matter if it’s a harmless defenseless hand raised bird…. or a person who is of another religion and does not subscribe to the same fable that the white republican subscribes to. Killing is WRONG. They do not EAT the birds…they MURDER them for FUN. ANYONE who finds the killing of anything living to be a “sport” and a FUN hobby is the lowest form of life. Why not shoot your own dog or cat for “sport” and fun…there is zero difference. Anyone who thinks otherwise does not subscribe to their fairy tail fabled “thou shall not kill”…. so very CHRISTIAN of them to kill harmless animals for “sport”…cowards, sissy’s and weak men they all be.

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
5:23 pm

Uh, where would this young man learn how to be a “controlled” hunter? His moron father? Sleazebag Yancy? Shooting someone unintentionally is not an accident, unless the Bad Gun Fairy grabbed the shotgun and pulled the trigger. It happens when a group of idiots gets their paws on guns.

If you want to go hunting with the young man, start setting up your Alabama PAC’s now. Have fun blasting tame doves with groups of over-entitled rednecks for the low, low price of $120,000. What wonderful family entertainment.

georgiahack

January 20th, 2010
5:24 pm

douchebaggery at its finest.

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:26 pm

Oxendine is a 100% red blooded Lumbee Indian, so his killing of birds for no reason is counter to his spiritual beliefs as a native American. It is ironic that he’s shooting birds for no reason on land that was stolen from native Americans, and yet he is one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oxendine

Buck Commander

January 20th, 2010
5:30 pm

Saulgood, Shooting animals and stupid tards like you is a lot fun. The animals (deer, quail, rabbits) taste good also. There should be an open hunting season on tards since they are like rats, just stupid pests and the lowest form of life.

Not An OX Person

January 20th, 2010
5:31 pm

OX, for goodness sakes man, I wasn’t gonna vote for you anyway but, a person running for Governor of Georgia should not be getting the kind of press you’re getting. If I were you, I’d be trying to clean up my act a bit……I would say…”lotsa luck” but, I really wouldn’t mean it.

jokerman

January 20th, 2010
5:35 pm

Buck Commander, Let me guess you live in a trailer park in the southeast corner of Georgia…Right?

Commonsenseagitator

January 20th, 2010
5:36 pm

Sounds like someone didn’t want to pay the bribe money Oxie wanted

Commonsenseagitator

January 20th, 2010
5:37 pm

QuailGate 2010 hate to break your heart buddy but there is no such thing

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:37 pm

Buck Commander, that’s waaaay outta line.

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:39 pm

Buck Commander

January 20th, 2010
5:39 pm

jokerman, do you want to know so you can come and visit?

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:43 pm

John W. Oxendine (born April 30, 1962) is an American politician currently serving his fourth term, 16th year, as Insurance Commissioner of the U.S. state of Georgia. Oxendine is proud of his Lumbee heritage, an Indian tribe out of North Carolina. A Conservative Republican, he was first elected commissioner in 1994 and was reelected in 1998,2002,and 2006. Prior to entering politics, Oxendine owned and operated a small business and was a bar-certified lawyer practicing in Gwinnett County, Georgia.

jokerman

January 20th, 2010
5:49 pm

Buck Commander .. No that’s all right. I understand there are only so many visits an inmate at the asylum can have in a day…….

hikingthehills

January 20th, 2010
5:55 pm

This is to “SICK AND TIRED” ALL i ASK OF YOU TO DO IS TO PUT A SIGN IN YOUR FRONT YARD THAT SAYS I DO NOT HAVE A GUN AND WILL NOT EVER HAVER ONE!

RGB

January 20th, 2010
5:56 pm

I love it when CommieLibStatists cite the Bible to attempt to bolster their point. But why bother since you’ve neither read it nor believe it?

Ever read this one:

[Genesis 1:28. That'd be the first book in the Old Testament]God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

If you eat either plants or animals, you kill things. Get over it you pantywaist Barney Frank-types. It’s just another attempt to be anti-Second Amendment.

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
5:58 pm

hiking the hills: If you cannot figure out caps lock, you should not own a gun.

QuailGate 2010

January 20th, 2010
6:03 pm

RGB: the bible does not address quail hunting, I looked it up. Nor were there guns when the bible was written. It’s just fine and dandy to hunt and kill for food, but last time I checked, these rich executives with their $600 designer Italian shotguns were not cooking up this quail they peppered with birdshot from ten feet away…..I just don’t see a bunch of rich white guys picking birdshot from their dinner.

RGB

January 20th, 2010
6:12 pm

Given you don’t know that a quail is a bird, it is unsurprising that you people know nothing about business, economics, the Bill of Rights, free enterprise, the Bible, and a host of other things.

Further, what evidence do you possess that these people don’t eat what they shoot? Were you trespassing on private property to view their activities?

Finally, what do an individual’s skin color or economic status have to do with whether they should be able to hunt?

And by the way, “designer Italian shotguns” (your term) cost more than $600.

Develop expertise in something…..anything.

I’m not voting for Oxendine but your anti-gun, anti-success attitude is pathetic and suggests extreme jealousy and class envy on your part

Jon B

January 20th, 2010
6:20 pm

I bet old Mr. Yancey wont get his claim denied for a “Pre-Existing Condition”… What are those two doing together anyway. My dad told me a long time ago that big business and specifically insurance companies run our lands and he was right. Or maybe just missed it by a hair and was actually referring to their money. Why would the CEO of an insurance company want to hang out with the soon to be Governor of Georgia? Hmmmm… to talk about all the jobs he is going to create when he gets the State insurance contract? Na…just good old back slapping and palm greasing going on down here in Georgia. HAHA….Republicans hunt like sissys… By the way what kind of hunter hunts a fenced in reserve?!?!?! The rich kind thats who.. EXACTLY the problem with ALL our government today from State and Fed Senators and Congress/House members to Obama all of them. They are disconnected with “REAL” people who pay taxes, dont have private airplanes or tax attorneys and who actually still give a #@%* about our country and not who’s gonna make the dollar off it…. I use to think the Tea Baggers (which by the way is most rediculous name in the world) were crazy and still do a little bit but they have some good points. AMERICA, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE; IF YOU DONT STOP SCREWING US WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT!!! No cushy board appointments for relatives and friends nothing no more State Trooper escourts… Get real, remember why you got in politics, well actually dont…. Just stop screwing us!

catlady

January 20th, 2010
6:20 pm

He asked if he could hunt THERE not hunt him there!

Another reason not to vote repub

Jon B

January 20th, 2010
6:24 pm

Jesus

January 20th, 2010
6:31 pm

Yeah, those CommieLibStatists think I was in the Garden of Gethsemane to pray? I was hanging with Peter and blasting doves into bloody piles of feathers. No one asked for my license until those Roman soldiers showed up. They must have been Democrats, they sure got upset over a little poaching.

KZGuy

January 20th, 2010
6:32 pm

Hey and this walking, talking POS was hunting on land owned by one of the largest insurance companies in GA and this POS is suppose to regulate! You don’t think this stinks?

hikingthehills

January 20th, 2010
6:32 pm

I was making a point TURD! aka QuailGate 2010

hikingthehills

January 20th, 2010
6:35 pm

I have hunted for 18 years and never shot anyone or even had a gun go off when I did not want it to, it just looks like the Ox needs to teach his kids a little better when comes to being safe with a gun!

Csquared

January 20th, 2010
6:41 pm

come one you Ox supporters. You really think that we give a flip about WHO got SHOT by WHO? Or that there’s somehow a 2nd amendment argument you can make? That’s not the issue and you KNOW it. Your man got caught once with his hands in the cookie jar and gave the money back. OK, so let’s say we believe THAT story. NOW, he’d have us believe that he just happened to be hunting on land OWNED by those same folks (and if you don’t think there was MONEY involved in that, I got a bridge deal for ya in Alaska).
Someone once said “follow the Money.” In this case, the money is leading back to those conflicts of interest that make this man UNFIT to lead the State of Georgia.

back roads

January 20th, 2010
6:49 pm

Rank has its priviledges and the Ox has taken plenty of them it seems. It is difficult to understand why anyone who has a gracious plenty on their plate will risk everybit of it for just a little bit more. It seems that whoever was responsible for this was most negligent. That is what insurance if for. Right? When it comes to elections, I hope there is box for the Ox..

catlady

January 20th, 2010
6:51 pm

Here is what is important: the man was cozying up to those he regulates. He says he is an avid hunter (but doesn’t routinely buy a license) (whose land does he usually hunt on?) He allows an untrained child to carry a gun. Then, he obfusticates about the accident.

Yep, sounds like a good Republican candidate to me!

(Given his history of unethical actions) One thing about it: if you vote for him–you have been warned!

I am guessing the bill was paid in cash? (Can you find out?)

back roads

January 20th, 2010
6:58 pm

wonder who the Ox has for an insurer?

Ole Guy

January 20th, 2010
7:02 pm

So let’s get the facts straight:

* The kid’s father is a respected member of the political community.

* The kid’s father knew that the kid had not received fire arms safety training.

* The kid’s father allowed the kid to handle a fire arm.

* The kid injures a member of the hunting party.

* The son “feel bad”.

* The father says “accidents happen”.

* Uh hu

Now let’s pose a hypothetical scenario:

* The father is NOT, in any way, affiliated with the “political elite”.

* Knowing that his son has no fire arms safety training, the father allows his son to handle a fire arm.

* During the use of the fire arm, the son accidentally injures another man.

Do we see any differences in the outcome?

Hook

January 20th, 2010
7:10 pm

I like to do activities with my friends, some of whom I’ve met through work. It is possible that they’ve become friends through work and want to enjoy their hobby together. Some men golf with work associates and/or friends, some men hunt.

Dirty Pol

January 20th, 2010
7:14 pm

For you who question this episode just remember that photo op Oxendine is just a friend with the big insurance cronie and $120,000 just happened to wind up in the Ox fund by mistake. Would you question why the insurance cronie would throw all that illegal money at him? One would surely not think that Yancy did this to try to get laws to better his company bottom dollar now would you???

“Oxendine said he asked Yancey if he could hunt with him on his property. Yancey is a longtime donor to Oxendine’s campaigns. Last May, The AJC reported that State Mutual Life Insurance and Admiral Life Insurance Company of America, both headed by Yancey, funneled $120,000 through a series of political action committees to Oxendine’s campaign in 2008. Oxendine denied any knowledge of the donations and returned the money. The State Ethics Commission is investigating.”

Oh, 99% of send our kids who hunt to hunter safety school. Why would you expect an INSURANCE man to do it???

back roads

January 20th, 2010
7:18 pm

Birds of a feather, they say.

clayton fowler

January 20th, 2010
7:25 pm

TO AQUAGIRL you must be for banning guns. Tell you what, If you was at Macdonalds, (we know shootings happen in public places) and you were there with your two small, loving children and a ramdom shooter starts shooting. NO POLICE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM, IF YOU CALLED 911. you are probably already under the table protecting your kids, AM I RIGHT?, Now seeing that there is a gunman killing people and i have a concealed firearms permit, I WOULD NOT THINK TWICE, PULLING MY 9MM, ENDING THE THREAT TO YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, MYSELF AND
OTHERS IN THE PLACE. Police take time to get there, Eminent danger to life,limb,others would
require me to do so. What would you do then? YOU WOULD THANK ME FOR SAVING YOUR LIFE. I read one time, you can’t carry around a 200 LB. Policeman in your pocket, but you can carry a firearm concealed with a permit. Get off your horse! Be thankful.

frank

January 20th, 2010
7:29 pm

i dont care at all for oxendine. if his son did it by accdent dont jerk on the kid oxdendine is a jerk to put this on his kid

redsupporter

January 20th, 2010
7:33 pm

It is hard to believe that the Ox is a serious candidate for governor. At a minimum, he has questionnable judgement in hunting with Yancey. More likely, this is who he is. I am voting for Handel; not even a close call

frank

January 20th, 2010
7:35 pm

thanks clayton fowler my wife carrys a 9mm. i carry 45. not to kill but to protect.

clayton fowler

January 20th, 2010
7:36 pm

AQUAGIRL: Sorry, I left one thing out. Read you post again and understand what you said.
“Unintentional” is related to the word “accident”,
where is your thought process? If you rearend the person in front of you, was it an accident?
Was it “Unintentional” rethink these words you wrote. you are contritdicting yourself and you don’t even know it. My… how we are blind.

Buddy El

January 20th, 2010
7:48 pm

Good Government: Get your head out of your a$$ and go back and read the entire article. Better yet get someone to read it to you. How many times do you have to be told that a license was not required at this particular hunting preserve. If you hadd free tickets to a Falcons game would you pay to get in anyway? I’m betting you are a democrat and a dumb democrat but I digress.

My Ox is in the ditch

January 20th, 2010
7:59 pm

“After Robertson was **blasted** in the leg,….”

Sorry Aaron dude, but you showed your cards in this story with the use of b-word to describe what happened.

Buddy El

January 20th, 2010
7:59 pm

Saulgood: Your sister called. She is pregnant with your baby.

Macon Oxwatcher

January 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

Anyone know why the Ox usually beats the local TV stations to a large Macon fire? The Macon?Bibb FD has its own investigators and media spokespersons but the Ox seems to be right in front of every camera for some reason. I don’t understand it ;)

ABC

January 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

Ban guns! Repeal the 2nd amendment!

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
8:10 pm

@ Clayton, I hate to interrupt your Letter to Penthouse, but I think Vermont should be the standard for concealed carry laws. However, weapons in the hands of idiots make me nervous. Because guns don’t kill people, badly trained/supervised 13 year olds with shotguns blasting away at harmless semi-tame birds kill people.

And if you want to shoot a McDonald’s wacko on my families’ behalf, thanks in advance. But please get a .45, I don’t want to be stuck under the table waiting for the guy to bleed out.

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
8:22 pm

Oh, and for me “unintentional” is not necessarily “accidentally.” If I plow into a car while simultaneously texting, drinking a latte, and applying makeup, it may be unintentional, but it’s not an accident—despite modern terminology. I also don’t think someone makes a “mistake” when they rob a bank. YMMV.

Crooks Rule

January 20th, 2010
8:57 pm

Oxendine–another crook in Atlanta, getting big money from insurance company millionaires in exchange for sweetheart deals from his office. the corruption in this state never changes.

Andre

January 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

Nothing new here, this is how the Good Ole’ Boys do it. They sleep with their lobbyist, they hunt with their lobbyist, all in the interest of the American people. God Bless America.

Good Government

January 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

If Ox went hunting on “anyone but Yancey’s land” this would not be a story, but he went hunting on the guy who funnelled $120 K in illegal contributions to his campaign and who he claimed he “barely knew”. Now he’s the man’s best friend.

Additionally, this guy is the definition of hypocrite. Please make him go away.

Joltin' Joe

January 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

You guys realize that his wife works for Blue Cross, the company he regulates, and they kept the marriage away from the press for at least a year.

clayton fowler

January 20th, 2010
9:15 pm

Rectal Bleeding, ABC, Please read the upper post from “Get Real” on statistics of crime increase of 51% because of retstricted gun laws.

AQUAGIRL-
My bad…. I didn’t know I was writing pornography?? Drinking a latte or etc, while you are driving and cause an accident should be criminal. Its not unintentional, or a mistake. it is disregard and intentional. However using “the car in front” case , when the light turns green, thinking they are going faster, or whatever, and you cause an accident, you just misjudged the distance/speed that allowed this to happen. A mistake was made, unintentional or bad judgement, You take off and run into that car. Do we know for a fact what the root cause was? Are you a flat out idiot for making that mistake? Maybe you would be more careful the next time, you learn something.
But you are right on someone robbing a bank. It’s not unintentional, or a mistake. We know it’s intentional.
I think these entirly different episodes leads to situations where we all benefit from the process.
As far as a .45 goes, the wacko has the norm most of the time,AK-47. My Nine’s capacity
is 18. steel jacket hollow point. a .45’s capacity is nowhere near that. I believe I am accurate, I’m using something for cover too while defending all of us. I’m shooting while he is shooting at us, I don’t want to run out under those circumstances. I don’t believe I ever seen a 45 with 18.
Question: As dumb as this sounds, (I apologize) what does YMMV mean?
I honestly don”t know. I am not into all this texting lingo.

mac

January 20th, 2010
9:27 pm

My oldest has gone hunting with my father since he was 12. Before my father would even let him touch a gun, my son had to take a hunter safety course. Education and safety are reviewed every time they plan a hunting trip. My son will be 19 tomorrow and I am proud to say he’s never accidentally (or intentionally) shot anyone.

Jen

January 20th, 2010
9:30 pm

I do not vote for those with the hunter mentality.

Hoop

January 20th, 2010
9:32 pm

Quail taste good. Tame or wild. Hunting them is not illegal or immoral. I prefer them to a store-bought chicken that’s been pumped full of hormone enhanced feed and then processed in a slaughterhouse. Gun safety is an important part of becoming an accomplished hunter. The child in this case does not deserve to be publicly chastised. Oxendine may or may not have been at fault for what happened. It’s impossible to know without specific details on how the shooting accident occurred. Yes, this is a news story because of the company that Oxendine keeps. That is the only reason it’s news. As a hunter, an insurance broker and a conservative, Oxendine will not get my vote.

Bill

January 20th, 2010
10:17 pm

The Ox has my vote! Yes to the NRA. God Bless the USA and protect our rights.

Aquagirl

January 20th, 2010
10:46 pm

@ Clayton, my point exactly—from what we know about this “accident” (which is admittedly little, if Oxendine had his way we’d know nothing) there were people hanging around 30 yards from a group of quail hunters. And *four* hunters fired in their direction? Including a 13 year old with no firearms training? This is an invitation for a Darwin Award.

I didn’t know Wackos had a standard-issue weapon. I was under the impression most use handguns for the simple reason you tend to attract attention while toting a rifle. And you’re planning on using covering fire in a McDonalds? Yikes. If you’re only looking out for #1, fine, but you may not get much in the way of thanks from bystanders.

“YMMV” stands for “Your Mileage May Vary.” It’s a way of saying “that’s just my opinion, if yours differs, like, that’s cool, dood.” Or so I was told by a teenager. Hopefully it *does* mean that, and is not some terrible insult of your mother’s heritage.

The Man Ox

January 20th, 2010
10:51 pm

@bart, there’s a “good” reason that I wasn’t at the debate! Maybe a reporter would ask me why!

Tracie

January 20th, 2010
11:01 pm

So because Ox is a insurance commissioner hes not allowed to have friends in the field. Tell that to your lawyers and doctors and little league people. Your friends with who you are around. People that dont think so never look at their own group. Dont be friends with someone you work with. Its not good right?

BuckCommander

January 20th, 2010
11:09 pm

To all the so called left-wing liberals on this blog, answer a question. Where does the food that you eat come from, not part of it but all of it? Have any of you ever been to a chicken processing plant, slaughterhouse, dairy, or any food processing plant? Like a good friend of mine told me that has chicken houses, once you raise them you will never eat them again. I carry and own guns and if you don’t thats alright with me, its your life not mine. When someone breaks into your house call 911, curl up in the fetal position and hide under your bed and either take it in the butt or the head or hope the police are not on a doughnut break. I will not worry since I can handle that problem myself, if I can’t I will die defending myself and my family instead of begging and crying like some spineless jellyfish. In my opinion thats whats wrong with our country now, wait on someone else to take care of us and our problems.

GoOx

January 21st, 2010
8:11 am

My man Ox. This all turns out to be a hunting accident. I feel sorry for his son, and the unfair scrutiny that he has been put under by the liberal AJC. They have been on a witch hunt against the front runner in the race and will not give up. He hunted on a friends preserve and now your turning it into an issue.

In July remember the liberal attacks and go out to vote for my man Ox.

tomkat1

January 21st, 2010
8:42 am

The fact that Mr. Oxendine and family were hunting on an Insurance executives landlooks bad. The fact that the same executive contributed an illegal $120,000 to Mr. Oxendine’s campaign looks even worse. We need a candidate for Governor that is now owned by special interests.

GoOx

January 21st, 2010
8:46 am

There is no proof that illegal contributions were made to my man Ox’s campaign. That is just part of the AJC’s witch hunt.

Oxendine and Gun Safety : Georgia Liberal

January 21st, 2010
9:02 am

[...] perhaps before running around in the woods with your son with a gun, you might want to get him a safety training class. Heck, I am a liberal, and even I had a safety class before I was allowed to go out with a gun in [...]

Quails against guns

January 21st, 2010
9:05 am

Tracie? What are you trying to say? It makes no sense? A byproduct of the Georgia education system?

back roads

January 21st, 2010
9:06 am

It seems that a great effort will be made to find out if the so called contributions were illegal. It is called investigative reporting. Witch hunts require a liscense even if conducted on a hunting preserve.

BuckCommander

January 21st, 2010
9:08 am

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention I am attracted to men in tank top shirts.

Garth

January 21st, 2010
9:14 am

Can’t you folks see what’s happening here. Oxendine is pulling a “John Kerry,” making middle class Georgians believe he has been a real hunter all of his life, when records show he just recently purchased a hunting license for the first time. Yeah, right, Oxy, you’ve been hunting all your life–on rich man’s preserves–and in case you folks don’t get it, these preserves are for the rich. It’s easy hunting. Oxy wants us to believe he’s a real outdoorsman, but if that were the case he would have had a hunting license for decades like the rest of us. Also, his son should have attended a hunters safety course before even touching a gun outdoors, regardless of whether he was on public or private land. Oxy may have some of you fooled, but not this Republican.

back roads

January 21st, 2010
9:15 am

More than one bird was turned loose on that hunt. A couple escaped but they returned to the Ox coop. Now the door is open and a few more will escape before the dun smoke clears the air.Keep tuned….the plot thickens.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 21st, 2010
9:18 am

My Ox is in the ditch, what is the proper word if not “blasted.” It’s a shotgun. A shotgun blast. I don’t see the problem?

back roads

January 21st, 2010
9:33 am

Garth. You are right buddy. We are talking big bucks, huge tax write offs for supposed business losses. Some preserves are private and on leased property. Some properties are leased from public agencies such as water authorities, power companies and county governments.They pay no taxes It takes a lot of consortium between good ole boys for such schemes to fly under the laws. In my opinion this is the nearest you can come to actual theft of public funds and propertyand deny it with a straight face. So much for the Ox having a triple educational degree in christianity, greek and BS.

A third voice

January 21st, 2010
10:28 am

Shotgun blast? Shotgun spray? Shotgun accidental discharge in to a mans leg?

Wait? Seems to me the REAL story here is Oxendine hunting on a preserve owned by an insurance executive, under investigation for campaign contributions to Oxendine. The correct lexicon for describing the injury/damage to the victim here is not relevant.

back roads

January 21st, 2010
10:38 am

Just remember,”A man who takes his son hunting won’t have to hunt for his son.” Now guess who said that. Is a parent negligent if he lets his son loose, out of his immediate supervision. and with a loaded shotgun? Just asking.

Michelle

January 21st, 2010
10:40 am

Oxendine must think any publicity is good publicity because the hits just keep a comming. His Judge father has to resign, he’s investigated for ethics violations taking money from his insurance/huntin friends, and now this, what next? In good times Georgia might weather this nonsense, but in these bad ones we don’t need these greedy idiots as Governor or as Insurance Commissioner.

My Ox is in the ditch

January 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Aaron—

This would have been a more neutral, less sensational phrase:

“After Robertson was **shot** in the leg,….”

Guns shoot, bombs blast.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Hey, a third voice, you’re exactly right.

QuailGate 2010

January 21st, 2010
10:47 am

GoOX, regarding the $120,000 illegal campaign contribution, the fact that an investigation has been launched by the Georgia state ethics commission, and that Oxendine **RETURNED THE MONEY**…..that sounds like a, (smirk), smoking gun to me.

**If the money was legal and legit, why would a greedy politician return $120,000 to the donor??**

QuailGate 2010

January 21st, 2010
10:49 am

Q: What do you call it when three lawyers go hunting, and only two come back?
A: A great start

A third voice

January 21st, 2010
11:06 am

My father was a lawyer. He did legal aid for years. Thanks for your kind words regarding lawyers.

GunTotenBibleThumper

January 21st, 2010
11:12 am

Sorry that this happened to anyone, but accidents happen. I suppose that this AJC fellow wanted to use the ‘gun accident’ as a way to push the donation thing from the insurance guy, but it’s shameful. They poor 13 year old made a mistake and the insurance guy has a few pellets in him as a result. I’ll pray for them both. I will also pray for our government, here in Georgia (especially now) as well as the folks in Washington…they can all use it.

If you don’t like guns for hunting, or defense of you and your family; that’s up to you. I’ll be happy to defend you and your loved ones, should and awful thing happen to you/them while I am around you. I have a license, and glad to be ‘of service’ to defend you from the thugs that unlawfully carry a weapon to do you harm.

back roads

January 21st, 2010
11:13 am

QuailGate…No, it means they only had one bullet.

back roads

January 21st, 2010
11:25 am

Strict adult and parental supervision is required when children are allowed to handle loaded guns. The first rule of hunting has been and always will be safety first. Under somewhat similar conditions and In some parts of town, depending on who you is, DFACS would take your children and require you to take parental caretaking. It is a shame you can’t cure stupidity.

QuailGate 2010

January 21st, 2010
11:37 am

I apologize if I have made light of the contribution that lawyers make to our society.

My intent is more to poke fun at the hypocritical attempts by politicians to appear to be an ‘ordinary Joe six-pack’. Here are a group of millionaires who are trying to appeal to the masses with their elmer-fudd-ish attempts at hunting. Sorta that ‘John Kerry in the Tank’ moment…..

Behind closed doors these same millionaire-lawyer-politicians are quietly passing laws and making decisions that cost the ordinary taxpayer more money and put more power in the hands of special interest groups and corporations.

Since Oxendine has accepted over $2.6 Million in campaign contributions from insurance companies, he is in their pocket, and he has made several decisions favorable to his largest campaign contributor, Mr. Yancey, such as appointing him to be the chairman of the Georgia Life & Health Insurance Guaranty Association year after year; the Association has assets of over $100 Million dollars. So you put your largest (illegal) campaign contributor in charge of that much money??? It may all be perfectly legit, but something smells fishy here…..

Aaron Gould Sheinin

January 21st, 2010
11:47 am

My Ox is in the ditch, I can see your point, but I can promise you it was nothing more than an attempt to not use the same word — “shot” — over and over.

WTF!?

January 21st, 2010
11:59 am

Who farking cares??? Seriously there are soo many other things much more important than this crap to have to worry about in life.

B-MAN

January 21st, 2010
12:02 pm

Oxenwhine’s comments are reckless, nonchalant and unsubstantiated…all great qualities for a politician. I am truly amazed at his arrogance and his “so what?” attitude. Very typical of a Republican.

QuailGate 2010

January 21st, 2010
12:05 pm

WTF: The only ones who care are those who want honesty and integrity in government. If Oxendine cannot tell the truth about a simple hunting mishap, then he is not fit to be Governor.

Jessica

January 21st, 2010
12:08 pm

Wonder if Oxendine shot the man and asked his 13 year old son to take the blame so he won’t be compared to Cheney!

My Ox is in the ditch

January 21st, 2010
2:52 pm

Aaron–no sweat. You have Ox by the shorthairs on this one. Report the facts in a sterile tone and he will gore himself. This whole episode is sad. No need to appear to be piling on.

DG

David

January 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

the news story here is OX’s close ties to Insurance executives, why do you think insurance companies get away with what they do?

Dick Cheney

January 22nd, 2010
6:29 am

I swear it was’nt me!

WC

January 23rd, 2010
10:22 pm

John Oxendine doesn’t have a 13 or 14 year old son. He has a step son of this age who is actually the son of his second wife, an Insurance executive with Blue Cross/Blue Shield. John Oxendine’s son is JW, who was born January 17, 1992. So this is not John’s son who shot this person although John is referring to him as his son.

back roads

January 25th, 2010
12:28 pm

EIfnter your comments here if you shoot someone in the lower leg while quail hunting then you are shooting at a bird running on the ground. A real No No.

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February 10th, 2010
8:13 pm

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[...] Yet Oxendine appointed the head of both firms, Delos “Dee” Yancey III, as chairman of an influential insurance association. Even after the men’s ties were questioned, Oxendine went quail hunting on land that Yancey owned. (You may have heard about it when Oxendine’s son accidentally shot a man.) [...]