Updated: Confusion over disaster declaration solved

Update 4:08 p.m.: OK, confusion cleared. They were both right. The White House now says that Cherokee AND Carroll were included in the disaster declaration. That makes five counties instead of four.

Original post:

Is Cherokee or Carroll county a disaster area?

Carroll, along with Douglas, Cobb and Paulding, have appeared to have suffered the most damage in this week’s floods. But when Gov. Sonny Perdue announced on Thursday that President Barack Obama has declared a federal disaster in four Georgia counties, it was Cherokee and not Carroll listed with the other three.

But, then the White House issued a press release saying that Carroll was on the disaster list, not Cherokee. Compounding the confusion, however, Perdue communications director Bert Brantley told the AJC moments ago that the official document the governor received from the White House says Cherokee.

A White House spokeswoman is checking on the discrepancy, and Brantley said the governor’s office and the Georgia Emergency Management Agency is working with federal officials to try and straighten out the problem.

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JAO

September 24th, 2009
2:53 pm

Can’t wait until these folks are in charge of health care!

Rasheed Willis

September 24th, 2009
2:54 pm

What a freaking joke. You dumbasses don’t even know what county is getting aid??

Marcus

September 24th, 2009
2:57 pm

Thats the AJC’s fault…CNN got the right story so why didnt you guys get it right…dont blame the white house people!

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
3:00 pm

Marcus, did you actually read the post you commented on? It says the governor says Cherokee, the WH says Cherokee but also says Carroll. Which part of that is the AJC’s fault? What did CNN say?

Valerie

September 24th, 2009
3:03 pm

That’s right Marcus, CNN got it right!!!!!!

Tired

September 24th, 2009
3:04 pm

Aaron Gould Sheinin the governor’s off and the AJC can make mistakes to you know!

Curious

September 24th, 2009
3:05 pm

Is there a reason why all the counties are not getting aid at this time? Why only four?

Marcus

September 24th, 2009
3:05 pm

Sir the CNN got the entire article right…its you guys mediocore publication that got it incorrect!!!

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
3:06 pm

Oh man, Tired, I make mistakes almost hourly. In this case, however, my point is that there is confusion, as the blog post says, and all involved are trying to figure it out. Why that’s the AJC’s fault I don’t know.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
3:07 pm

Curious, as I understand it, there is a federally mandated process this goes through. Some of the counties — Cobb, Paulding and Douglas — had obvious amounts of damage that exceeded a certain threshold and were immediately on the disaster list. (The fourth of course is either Cherokee or Carroll). The rest suffered damage that is still being assessed to see which thresholds they hit. Different levels of damage bring different levels of relief and aid.

Rod

September 24th, 2009
3:10 pm

The President should let GA who didn’t want to take any stimulus money figure out how to pay for all of this itself!How about we start the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps if you can find them in all the water. Let’s be grateful people are going to get some much needed assistance but then those people are not on here typing nonsense since they don’t have a viable home to occupy at the moment!

Deb

September 24th, 2009
3:13 pm

What about Catoosa county? Where is their name?

Deb

September 24th, 2009
3:14 pm

Not Catoosa, Chatooga

barneyb

September 24th, 2009
3:15 pm

Yup, CNN was correct, the AJC got it worng

I hate people

September 24th, 2009
3:18 pm

Rod, you are an idiot.

I am pretty sure that taxpayers not paying for a program is an option instead of taxpayers paying and then its up to the states to decide if they want to take money or not. All people were saying was we shouldn’t be taking on this debt AT ALL but they didn’t have that option. THEY HAVE TO PAY THE TAXES (in the future) so why not take the money now IF YOU ARE FORCED TO PAY FOR IT no matter what. Should they have let the other 49 states take Georgia taxpayer money?

I swear, this country is full of complete idiots. I’m saving up to buy an island so I can get away from the idiots (if the government doesnt start a “savings tax” to pay for the people that didn’t save)

Michael

September 24th, 2009
3:20 pm

Rod, What has Stimuls money got to do with this? Are you proposing to use the Powers of the mighty Federal government to punish states that don’t toe the line? How frightening!

Bob

September 24th, 2009
3:27 pm

CNN would not know what was right in any situation even if it walked up and bit them in the backside.

SpaceyG on Twitter

September 24th, 2009
3:28 pm

Never underestimate the ability of a communications office to miscommunicate.

Learn something...

September 24th, 2009
3:30 pm

Rod,
That’s what federal disaster funds are set aside for. The stimulus has nothing to do with this. Certain states didn’t want to accept the stimulus money because of the strings attached to it. For instance, increasing unemployment benefits with the stimulus money in the short term, however the states would have to continue the increased payouts on their own in the long-term. Which would mean implementing higher state taxes and/or cutting other areas.

OBM

September 24th, 2009
3:30 pm

Typical freaking democrats

lil birdie

September 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

Two questions:

#1 – Where is the National Guard?

#2 – What the hell went wrong with Lake Lanier not operating as it should have?

LadyBell

September 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

Did the article not say that even the official document the Governor received was wrong? So that doesn’t make it anyone’s fault but the person that typed up the document.

NoWayOut

September 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

If the federal government didn’t set aside money for events such as this, would GA have the money in it’s budget to pay for this emergency? I highly doubt it. Our current administration doesn’t believe that the government should be involved in people lives or well being.

Their motto is “You’ve LOST everything, OH WELL”. I guess you should have purchased larger boots, so you would still have bootstraps to pull up.

Just like a flood, your health can also cost you to lose everything. And we have congressmen who will not support healthcare reform, because it would involve the government. Go figure.

Still Moist

September 24th, 2009
3:33 pm

Where is Gwinnett? People died!

Tom

September 24th, 2009
3:33 pm

It’s ok. Once they “wring all the inefficiencies out” of the process, it’ll actually make money and the taxpayers will be getting a refund.

Annoyed

September 24th, 2009
3:34 pm

You actually believe CNN? I am just amazed how long it took the white house to get back to the Governor about this – its sad. Was or flood not good enough for immeidate response?

amy

September 24th, 2009
3:44 pm

people, you can’t fix stupid. pointing out marcus’ reading comprehension problem is entirely ineffective, because he’d be required to comprehend your comment after reading it in order to realize his mistake.

it’s a pointless cycle.

nan

September 24th, 2009
3:45 pm

This is off topic but once again a lot of these posts refer to health care reform. I’m all for health care reform but not in the way that’s being proposed. People need to read what they’re tying to pass. Everyone of us will be paying dearly for this proposed plan. It will be mandated that everyone buy health insurance, sort of like the taxes that are taken out of your paycheck every week, it’s mandatory not an option. Those in Washington need to scrap the current proposals and start over. Health care has been a mess for over 25 years and there’s absolutely no reason why this can’t be done with care and thoughtfulness as well as transparency….we, the people, should be able to review the entire bill before it’s voted on. Unlike the other things that have been jammed through by the folks who are elected and paid by us as taxpayers they need to read what they’re voting on.

Are you kidding?

September 24th, 2009
3:45 pm

NoWay, you do realize this money comes in the forms of loans that have to be paid back right? It’s not a handout.

Erik

September 24th, 2009
3:47 pm

Obama must hate southerners…

Fred

September 24th, 2009
3:51 pm

lil birdie@3:32 said “#2 – What the hell went wrong with Lake Lanier not operating as it should have?”

Uh, you do understand that Lanier did exactly what it was supposed to don’t you? Most of the extremely heavy rain was south (downhill) of both the Lanier and Allatoona dams and the watersheds that feed the lakes. Had the two dams not been there and soaked up as much water as they did, the flooding would have been much worse.

Icarus

September 24th, 2009
4:03 pm

I know the AJC has a long tradition against literacy tests for voting, but I’m wondering if they now would like to take the position that literacy tests should be passed before a person is allowed to comment on a blog.

armorup

September 24th, 2009
4:03 pm

Enter your comments hereLil birdie
#1 The majority of the Georgia Army National Guard is in Afghanistan.

#2 These flood waters came from the Big Creek/Chattahoochee basin south of Lake Lanier.

ATLdawg

September 24th, 2009
4:03 pm

Aaron Gould Sheinin…is the AJC looking into the Army Corps of Eng’s release from Lake Lanier? Did it contribute to the flood? Was it fulfilling it’s role as a flood-prevention reservoir?? Will the AJC get into this story, please?

armorup

September 24th, 2009
4:05 pm

People dying is not figured into the damage assesment that is done for a federal declaration.

Dr. K

September 24th, 2009
4:12 pm

How did all the work at the Water Treatment Plant in Lilburn over the last three/four years affect the floods on Tom Smith? Army Corp.needs to look at that as well.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
4:17 pm

ATLdawg, I believe my colleague Pat Fox is on it.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
4:17 pm

Is that how y’all roll at PP Ic?

NoWayOut

September 24th, 2009
4:24 pm

Are you kidding? – do you actually believe that the money will be paid back? Most of these people will have to continue to pay mortgages, other bills, etc…

I don’t remember seeing a whole lot of millionaire homes in Douglas, Cobb, Carrol or Paulding counties.

What’s next, the government will foreclose on their property for failure to pay back the money? Most of the homes were fairly new and still in the 30 year loan payments plans.

Zeke

September 24th, 2009
4:25 pm

Isn’t this Socailism? These are all Repulican counties and none of them should get a dime in federal aid. What about all of that smack talking during Katrina? Let them eat red clay!

emack06

September 24th, 2009
4:30 pm

One comment from Katrina: “Its their own dam fault. IF their lazy a.. would get job, the could have afford a car to escape or moved into a house on high ground. Giving them federal assistance is welfare.”

Rufio

September 24th, 2009
4:34 pm

Gwinnett isn’t on the list because the citizens voted overwhelmingly Republican and the county isn’t diversified enough. Sounds like a message is being sent from the White House. I have to admit i was disappointed in Insurance Commissioner Oxendine. It was amazing how quickly he came out and told people how they were not covered. I guess his title should be Insurance Company Commissioner instead. The State of Georgia is not a Government for the people. It now represents companies. If you ever get hurt in this State the work comp agency does NOTHING for the taxpayer, the pharmacy board protects the pharmacist, the Georgia Public Commission protects Georgia Power…..This state has become a joke along with our Federal Government. They wonder why people are resistant to a National Health Care System…….

Icarus

September 24th, 2009
4:36 pm

Our guiding principle at Peach Pundit is that if it rolls, it’s usually down hill, or in this case, down stream.

sandy

September 24th, 2009
4:50 pm

Amen to JAO’s comment!!

Ms T

September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm

maybe if i slip and fall in all the water in my flooded basement or have a stroke or my disabled son has an asthma attack from the mildew smell from the flooded basement , since we live in gwinnett county and its still pending, then maybe the president will pay attention to us then and help us get some health care since he cant help us get FEMA

Reality Check

September 24th, 2009
4:57 pm

Zeke – you are an idiot!

idiots everywhere

September 24th, 2009
5:10 pm

Rufio – are you on dope? Anyone who says Gwinnett is not diverse has not ever been most of the county – Norcross, Lilburn, Duluth and Lawrenceville are full of Latino Businesses and people that frequent them, not to mention the Asian areas. For cryin out loud the elementary school on Herrington has their sign in spanish!!!

Gloria

September 24th, 2009
5:12 pm

Always trying to blame Washington even when Washington had nothing to do with the mistake. It must be the fault of AJC since all media (televisions and other newspapers) published the correct counties.

eolufemi

September 24th, 2009
5:17 pm

Anybody plan on apologizing to Washington for incorrectly blaming them for the mix-up?

David

September 24th, 2009
5:28 pm

I agree with ATLdog. Did the Army Corp continue to release water from Lanier into an already flooded Chatahooee? (they are required to release water by law, but common sense has to come in some where)

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
5:58 pm

David, the way my colleague Pat Fox described it to me today, the Corps shut down the generators at Buford Dam so that it only released the water necessary to keep its systems operating.

Aaron Gould Sheinin

September 24th, 2009
6:00 pm

Gloria, did you see the update to the post that said the White House corrected its error?

Fair Tax

September 24th, 2009
6:16 pm

People, do you see a trend. Washington couldn’t handle Cash for Clunkers. The can’t manage a regional flood, yet they are convinced they are the answer for healthcare. Where is all the outrage we saw after Katrina about the Federal Government! Who’s giving this administration a pass. HEY, B.O. no trip to GA, now helicopter ride over the effected area, not immediate disaster proclaimation. Sorry B.O. to bother your during your United Nations and G whatever summit. GA is part of the nation you swore to govern! So govern!

Fair Tax

September 24th, 2009
6:19 pm

Hey Zekeeee! You’d scream like crazy if one of you bed wetting liberal counties needed help and didn’t get it. Yet, it’s OK for you to rationalize why counties that did not vote for your lame so called leader didn’t. Enjoy the 2010 elections!

Gosh Darn it

September 24th, 2009
6:32 pm

Georgia. Let’s see. The governor initially opposed the stumulu package. Said that government was too big. First person they call on Obama. I say let the rednecks sweat it out.

T. Leeo

September 24th, 2009
7:29 pm

EnWhat about Dekalb County? People there have lost homes, too, with severe water damage? We weren’t in a flood plain and don’t have insurance to cover our loss. We need help too.

Deep Water

September 24th, 2009
7:54 pm

Mr. Jimmy Carter, Why haven’t we heard from you. You know everything else. Tell us what to do. Looks like more white people’s houses got flooded than black folk’s homes. Other counties need help too!! You mean you can’t go to bat for us on this? Mr. Jimmy, you sho’ is mighty quite now. I know being quite ain’t like you — it want last long. You be coming back soon cause this is big news & you can get yo name in the paper & be on TV. You like Obama — y’all like that being seen & heard. Speak to us now!!

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catlady

September 25th, 2009
7:14 pm

Love to see those Godly Republicans bellying up to the federal aid bar so quickly! They need to show some personal responsibility and solve their own problems without reaching into my pocket!