Breaking: State agencies face 25 percent budget cut in June

Gov. Sonny Perdue on Thursday said state revenues for the almost-ended fiscal year have continued to decline and that state agencies will lose a quarter of their June funding.

Perdue, in a letter to top state lawmakers, said he is being forced to lower the state revenue estimate by more than $274 million for the 2009 fiscal year that ends June 30. 

Education funding won’t be impacted by the cuts, Perdue spokesman Bert Brantley said. Perdue plans to use federal stimulus money to replace cuts in state funding for K-12. 

This cut comes on top of more than $2 billion in spending reductions for fiscal 2009. Perdue needed to make the move to avoid having to further empty already depleted state reserves at the end of the fiscal year to pay bills.

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Michelle

May 28th, 2009
4:00 pm

Lord please help everyone who has lost or will lose their job! Bless them with another one and please make a way for them to continue doing what they need to do. IN JESUS NAME – AMEN

jH

May 28th, 2009
4:07 pm

I thought Mule Head had ensured the Georgia citizens that revenues had declined previously due to the State paying out State income tax refunds. He is one heck of a math student and a proud graduate of uga. Man, please. Go shack back up with the Linger Longer crowd.

OZZFEST

May 28th, 2009
4:14 pm

Take me to your litre.

YANCYVB

May 28th, 2009
4:14 pm

Michelle
That was beautiful and needed. Thank you.

Ernest

May 28th, 2009
4:15 pm

This is really getting scary. This will obviously mean a reduction in additional headcount and services.

herbK

May 28th, 2009
4:19 pm

“This will obviously mean a reduction in additional headcount and services”

I sure hope so, too many employed by the state now. Cut ‘em back, lay ‘em off & cut the pay.

Bad logic

May 28th, 2009
4:24 pm

herbK,

You are an idiot. Layoffs will mean more unemployment. More unemployment will mean more people deriving government checks for unemployment. More people drawing unemployment will mean less tax revenue through state income tax. This means your taxes will ultimately have to be raised in order to fund the budget shortcomings in spite of any state employment layoffs to save money.

Sonny per "Do Little"

May 28th, 2009
4:24 pm

I think the best way to fix the problem is to layoff the governor and kind someone more competent to deal with the issues.

s

May 28th, 2009
4:25 pm

Cut Georgia Public Broadcasting to the bone!!!!

RenaP

May 28th, 2009
4:25 pm

well – we all could just go fishing. He didn’t cut any of that money.

What?!?

May 28th, 2009
4:33 pm

S – what in heaven’s name does that have to do with anything? Even if they were to be completely eliminated – it’s pennies compared to this mess! Do some research into the budget and where the money goes before you post.

Tom

May 28th, 2009
4:34 pm

Never fear, folk$; Obama is gonna fix it, he ha$ an an$wer for every problem!!!!

Rational Citizen

May 28th, 2009
4:34 pm

At a time when our economy is struggling and state and local governments are scrambling for ways to raise revenue, the answer could come from the unlikeliest of places. Contact your local, state and federal representatives and tell them it’s time America had a rational discussion on the benefits and drawbacks of the legalization, regulation and taxation of marijuana.

I support LRT primarily for 3 reasons: as a means of raising much needed tax revenues for state and local governments, as a way to alleviate the burdens on our local prosecutors, and as a means of cutting off a very reliable source of funding for Mexican drug cartels.

The marijuana industry in America is estimated to be between a $60-100 billion (that is BILLION!) market, and currently Americans suffer all the drawbacks and none of the benefits. Through prohibition we are essentially ceding this very lucrative market to organized crime. Through LRT, we can create jobs here in America and deliver to state and local governments much needed tax revenues that could be used to fund healthcare or improve education for our children.

Our local prosecutors are currently swamped under burdensome caseloads, and our judicial system in general is suffering because the courts have to deal with countless numbers of simple possession cases. Last year over 800,000 Americans were arrested for simple possession, and for every case we must pay for the arrest, prosecution, and in some cases, housing of individuals for a “crime” that is the equivalent of going out for a few beers with friends. Through LRT we can alleviate the burdens on our courts so they can deal with more serious issues, like violent crimes.

Marijuana currently accounts for 60% of the revenues of Mexican cartels, and through LRT we can cut them off at the knees. The prohibition of marijuana has had the same perverse effects on society that the prohibition of alcohol had: we have simply enriched and emboldened organized crime. Almost everyone agrees that the prohibition of alcohol was a disaster…why would anyone think the prohibition of marijuana would be any different?

By regulating marijuana the same as alcohol, with similar restrictions on its purchase and use, America can finally bring this segment of the economy out from the shadows and into the open. We’ve heard a lot about the the “green” economy. Well, LRT should be but one pillar in the new approach America takes to getting itself back on its feet.

Herb

May 28th, 2009
4:34 pm

WOW, did you vote, if so for who again?

Hypocrites

May 28th, 2009
4:35 pm

That good old stimulus money came in handy once again, huh?

Jeff

May 28th, 2009
4:36 pm

Sunday liquor sales sure would be helpful for the revenue of the state right about now. Maybe pig-headed Perdue (did you know Perdue means “lost” in French…that just cracks me up as sooo appropriate) will re-think his position against allowing the citizens of GA to vote for Sunday sales.

Hateslosing

May 28th, 2009
4:36 pm

If they would just look at Georgia Public Broadcasting, and eleiminate that. I mean we get that same exact programming on History Channel, National Geographic. They keep pumping in MILLIONS of dollars and the place is WAYYYYYYYYYY overstaffed and provide NO credible entertainment value for anybody UNDER 70 years old…………….

S is an idiot

May 28th, 2009
4:37 pm

Wow, S.. Have an axe to grind? Do tell… Otherwise – STFU unless you want to present an idea with some MERIT.

How about re-instating the wonderful tax breaks dolled out to corporations that will cripple the state’s economy in the long-term?

Steve

May 28th, 2009
4:37 pm

CUT SPENDING CUT SPENDING CUT SPENDING Simple enough. Has anyone seen the amount of work CW Mathews is getting in rural areas of the state? The good ole boy network is alive and well within GA.

Ask your State Reps how much money they allocated for the refurbishing of the old Tift College in Forsyth. It was nearly half of this budget short fall.

Jeff

May 28th, 2009
4:39 pm

Rational Citizen–Amen! Law enforcement needs to be focused on the increasing violent crime, such as the murder in Piedmont Park and all around this city and state, instead of on petty marijuana possession. Cigarettes are more harmful than marijuana, yet no one seems to care about that.

the Carpenter

May 28th, 2009
4:41 pm

Does Jesus have anything to do with employment? People have been praying for thousands of years and look where it’s gotten you. It’s a good thing he’s not around because he’d have a hard time finding a carpentry job.

JamC

May 28th, 2009
4:41 pm

I have to agree with “s.” Eliminate GPB and other worthless and totally unnecessary state agencies. Most people wouldn’t notice the difference anyway.

JamC

May 28th, 2009
4:42 pm

Oh… one other thing: Close UGA permanently. ;-)

Nunya

May 28th, 2009
4:44 pm

GPB just fired over 30 people, or nearly 1/4 of the staff. Didn’t you read the Galloway article on them last week?

orly

May 28th, 2009
4:47 pm

All of you people that want to eliminate PBS – do you have children? Probably not… That’s the only station I let my kids watch.

ryan

May 28th, 2009
4:52 pm

Good, cut cut cut. Government employees are the lowest of the low. I only wish they would cut education funding as well. The public school system is the least efficient of all government agencies. When will people get it through their heads that more money in education doesn’t improve education. The systems that spend the most on education per student are the worst schools in America. Look it up.

s

May 28th, 2009
4:58 pm

It’s about CUTTING SPENDING and GPB spends like a drunken sailor on leave. Yes, I know they recently laid people off….and it was a drop in the bucket. THAT’S what it has to do with. And, no, I have no axe to grind. I feel the same about the rest of Georgia’s bloated, overspending agencies.

John

May 28th, 2009
4:58 pm

Is the State going to tell state employees (and I am on a furlough day alreafy) that we don’t have to pay our property taxes this year since they’ve already taken a big chunk of our salary away from us? Are state agencies like the University System who have not furloughed anyone going to finally have to take their fair share of state budget cits? Doesn’t Gov. Perdue realize this is going to snowball since state employees are going to have to spend less and thus further hurt the economy? Isn’t it time for our officials to act like statesmen rather than politicians and enact necessary tax increases? Use common sense.

orly

May 28th, 2009
5:00 pm

S – If you are going to throw out accusations like that, you must have some knowledge of the subject. How are they spending “like drunken sailors”?

s

May 28th, 2009
5:02 pm

Take a look at their most recent budget and see what you find.

The Snark

May 28th, 2009
5:02 pm

All you people screaming about government employees being the “lowest of the low” and calling for more cuts …

Next time you go to a restaurant, better not assume that your food was inspected … or the place it was cooked … or that the ambulance that takes you to the ER is up to date and functional … or that the doctor who treats you for salmonella was checked out before his license was issued … or that the probate court which administers your assets to your grieving widow will rule before the foreclosure notice comes …

I could go on, but I think you get the point. It’s easy to slurp up the services while you sit at your computer demanding more tax cuts.

Jessica

May 28th, 2009
5:04 pm

We can all go fishing and to the horse stable that is being built in middle, GA, I didn’t see that being cut from the budget. What a shame that you have someone who is not concerned about bringing more money into this state. Georgia is still stuck in the stone ages, no one here wants to progress, just regress.

tc

May 28th, 2009
5:08 pm

start with cfo and ceo, two former bankers, and any related overhead. cut salaries by 5% over next two years including everyone on payroll from regular state employees, teachers, and regents. then beg barnes to run for governor.

DH

May 28th, 2009
5:10 pm

What a surprise – a bunch of blowhards on this blog drawing typical conclusions to things they know little about. Just goes to show that education is the cure for ignorance.

Matt

May 28th, 2009
5:10 pm

What about the University System? The writer mentioned education with respect to K-12 but no mention of whether the USG would be affected.

Your name here

May 28th, 2009
5:15 pm

Enlighten us, DH….. I’VE looked at the budgets for some of these heavier spending agencies…HAVE YOU??

ryan

May 28th, 2009
5:15 pm

The government hires 100 morons to do the job one competent person could. Note that all those wonderful services listed are done horribly inefficient. You make it sound that they are so wonderful at inspecting food and coming to my rescue. Call 911 and see how fast the ambulance gets there. Why are our schools so bad? Why do people get Salmonella from restaurants and grocer food if the government is doing such a wonderful job? And your right, the court does such a great jobs. The government is full of losers who can hack it in the competitive world.

I am not worried about losing my job. You know why? Because I actually produce! I actually out work my competition and generate millions in revenue per year. No matter what I will not get laid off because I bring in far more than they pay me. Worse case scenario the company goes out of business and I easily find a new job because I can show my value to prospective employers. Or better yet I could even start my own business. We have that opportunity in America. Well for now anyways.
You people who suckle at the teat of the government are pathetic. Have some pride and accomplish something.

starts at the top

May 28th, 2009
5:17 pm

the problem lies with the president and the decisions he is making.
If America cant open their eyes and see what happening then we deserve what we get. Socialism has never worked and never will!
You cant give GM 50 billion dollars and expect that to fix the problem.
You cant borrow from yourself either.
WAKE UP PEOPLE AND LETS START GETTING THE WORD OUT TO PUT SOME PEOPLE INTO OFFICE IN THIS NEXT ELECTION TO STOP THIS MAN FROM KILLING AMERICA.

Phill

May 28th, 2009
5:20 pm

Remember when the legislature did supplemental budgets? They had to pass a supplement to the budget because they had to spend all the extra money they were getting from taxes. I have no sympathy.

NO IDEA

May 28th, 2009
5:24 pm

PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES.
TAXES ON A COKE AT THE GAS STATION WILL BE 2.50 IF THIS PRESIDENT IMPOSES THE VAT TAX OR THE SIN TAX. THESE TAXES WILL BE THERE TO PAY THE HEALTHCARE FOR THOSE THAT WONT WORK.
OUR STATE GOVT IS IN A MESS BECAUSE OF THE YEARS AND YEARS OF DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS THAT SPENT US INTO OBLIVION. SONNY HASNT DONE THAT BUT HE HASNT FIXED THE PROBLEM EITHER. OUR DFCS OFFICES ARE TOLD TO ADVERTIZE FOR FOOD STAMPS WHEN WE DONT HAVE MONEY TO GIVE OUT.
GO FIGURE??

34

May 28th, 2009
5:27 pm

Public Broadcasting has outlived its usefulness. When all we had were Channels 2, 5 and 11 it was a different world.

Road Scholar

May 28th, 2009
5:30 pm

Steve, transportation construction contracts are based on LOW BID based on state and fed laws! So they do the same job as others but cheaper. They all must meet well defined material and production requirements. Would you like to cover the difference between low and 2nd low bid?

Those of you who think state employees are “lowest of the low” please identify yourself to those employees when you ask for services (licenses, jobless benefits, etc). I bet they smile when you say it!

Just Another Brick in the Wall

May 28th, 2009
5:35 pm

Well, add me to the growing list of Georgia’s unemployed. I lost my job today and didn’t work for the State, either…

david

May 28th, 2009
5:36 pm

great news.lay off some state slugs,their the same as welfare slippery slits we all pay for.let them starve.

PMC

May 28th, 2009
5:36 pm

public broadcasting is privately funded by donations.

Geez, I wish you guys would focus on actual relevant government pork.

jes

May 28th, 2009
5:38 pm

I would identify myself as such to state employees if they ever answered the phone or returned from lunch, not to mention leaving work early!

jes

May 28th, 2009
5:40 pm

Public Broadcasting is not ENTIRELY funded by donations…..where in the world have you been?? If it was entirely funded by donations, why is GPB a state agency????? Your ignorance astounds me.

MMM

May 28th, 2009
5:43 pm

Governor Purdue– you should be a leader, & furlough yourself (i.e. loose 1 day’s) once a month. Also, instead of closing the State of Georgia’s parks,lodges,swimming pools,etc.,etc., why not encourage people to “TAKE YOUR VACATION IN GEORGIA!”

NParry

May 28th, 2009
5:44 pm

Well, we’ve legalized gambling in the form of Lottery for education, why not legalize marijuana, Sunday liquor sales, illegal aliens (increase in homeownership, property and income taxes) and shut down prisons to pay for the rest of us who will need these new sources of income sooner or later.

Charles Boarden

May 28th, 2009
5:50 pm

Lay off the dead wood at the State Level. These people are lazy and living off our taxes. Good riddance. Cut Purdue cut.

Charles Boarden
charles_boarden@homedepot.com
Home Depot – Atlanta, GA

ed

May 28th, 2009
5:51 pm

NParry, I’m with you up to the illegal aliens and prison parts!

Anne

May 28th, 2009
6:07 pm

Well David, if you ever get laid off remember those slugs when you go to your nearest Unemployment office looking for your hand out. I’ll have you know that most state workers work like dogs for much less then those in the private sector.

jj

May 28th, 2009
6:09 pm

Is this the same Governor that let VW head off to Chattanooga, Tennessee – without attempting to get it here – eventually bringing in million$ into that state? I know, we got Kia, but NW Ga needs some support right now, Dalton and surrounding areas are dying while our Governor fiddles.
Same governor that let Cabela’a off the hook in NW GA over internet sales, allowing a competing state to waltz in and get it and millions in sales(and an estimated 6 million visitors a year)?
I guess a fish museum that no one will go to is a much better way to spend our money.
Our governor reminds me of an old school plaid pants used car salesman.

Chief

May 28th, 2009
6:09 pm

Go to http://www.open.georgia.gov and research the salaries of the state employees. There are plenty that make MORE than the Govenor. Our state is sure doing a lot of “administrating” as I’ve never seen so many administrative personnel in any business.

bigedatl

May 28th, 2009
6:20 pm

Georgia Public Broadcasting is less than 1/10 of 1% of the State’s budget, so cutting it out won’t help any at all. And of course, they provide all sorts of educational services and programming to our schools statewide.

jboy

May 28th, 2009
6:21 pm

All you freaks that want to lay off State Employees are just jealous that you couldn’t pass the criteria to be hired and have had to settle for Kissin some Boss man’s hairy prune. Go ahead, rail, rail, rail!! It ain’t happening because someone has to administer services furnished by the State, as sorry as it may be, someone still has to do it. And Charles, YO Charles, don’t you know not to put your personal e-mail on a blog. Now I know why you work at the Depot? On a sentimental note, I’ve been with the State fo 18 years, but before that I was a contractor,a mobile home section super, a grocery bagger, and worked civil service, so it’s not a testosterone issue, it’s just a job like anyone else.

klm

May 28th, 2009
7:07 pm

GPB is less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the state budget? Prove it.

rj506

May 28th, 2009
7:39 pm

Outhoused

May 28th, 2009
7:45 pm

Sell the Capitol and all those big government buildings in Atlanta. Real estate in those locations ought to bring a big price, put it on the budget. We’ve got some big ole empty factory buildings in south Georgia that they can move into, rent and upkeep would be cheap. Legislators, the Governor, et. al. could stay at the lodge and camp at the State park that they are intent on closing. That would save the state money and save the park also.

Paul

May 28th, 2009
7:51 pm

GPB budget annual budget is $30 million, $18 million of which comes from the state (http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2009/03/20/gpb_cnn_teya_ryan.html) . The state budget is about $18 billion. So GPB gets about 0.1 percent of the state budget.

SMM

May 28th, 2009
7:57 pm

I am deeply offended by some of these comments against state employees. No matter where you go, government or not, there are some that are going to work circles around their peers while others slack off. It’s everywhere. But don’t label all state employees by the actions of only some. I have 3 graduate degrees and make as a state employee only half of what I could make in the private sector. But why do I do it? Because my job is my calling. I know that the work I do makes a difference in the lives of others. And I know I do an incredible job. I work about 60 hours per week, and am paid for 40 (32 during the week I must take a furlough day). I am always on call. Always accountable. Always responsible. Ryan, JES, David – we’re not all slackers. Some of really care, and some of us are extremely good at what we do because we care. It would be the same as assuming everyone in the corporate world is a crook, evading taxes, and living on big government-funded bonuses. We all know that there are good and bad everywhere. Think before you speak. And Chief – you can’t judge a state employee’s job function by his title. Many people with “administrative” titles are actually personnel with very specific expertise in various fields. Don’t assume they’re all secretaries answering a phone somewhere. And Mr. Boarden – I’m a tax payer, too. You folks in the private sector are not the only ones that get the joy of paying taxes. You are the only ones, however, who get profit sharing, bonuses, salary that truly commensurates with skill and education, not to mention those handy little orange aprons.

NSDY

May 28th, 2009
8:00 pm

Hey jes, david, ryan–do you have any data to back up hackneyed statements?
Anecdotal stories and hearsay don’t really stand up very well when you are trying to make a point.

hatewaste

May 28th, 2009
8:06 pm

forget prctg of gpb budget its 18 million dollars that support bs programming u can get from other sources in 2009

Zap

May 28th, 2009
8:26 pm

So over HALF of GPB’s budget comes from TAXPAYERS…..so much for it being “privately funded by donations” like so many people seem to think.

jes

May 28th, 2009
8:27 pm

Here’s my data….every time I deal with the state it’s like having a root canal. How’s that for data?

SMM

May 28th, 2009
8:39 pm

Maybe you are the common denominator, jes… :-)

jes

May 28th, 2009
8:56 pm

You’re right. Everybody else loves dealing with the State of Georgia. It’s a well oiled machine. It’s just me.

Yona1953

May 28th, 2009
9:07 pm

NO education cuts…Are historical park sites not educational ?
Excuse me….?

shabby

May 28th, 2009
9:09 pm

Hey, I’ve got an idea….many agencies are already furloughing, but how about furlough teachers three days during the summmer months…they are not working anyway!!! Plus they’ve got pay raises the last couple of years when other state employees have not.

Dawn

May 28th, 2009
9:17 pm

I too work for the State of Georgia and I to have had to deal with other state employees and to sometimes feel it’s like having a root canal. BUT, I have also had that feeling with other establishments such as Home Depot but I’ve never wished for anyone to lose pay or worse their jobs. Charles Boarden I’d love to talk with your coworkers at Home Depot and if I was a beating person I’d beat they all think your an ass hole. And, Ryan… I’m a probation officer for the state and since you are an expert I’d be interested to know how you would make a convicted felon for example a cocaine addict/thief stay clean while living in the hood amoungst his/her family of cocaine addicts and then get a job to become productive citizens, etc…. and mutiply that by 150. Oh, and I forgot there are no bonuses, no incentives, and for the last two years no raise. Please I’d be interested to know since you seem to have all the answers. And, Jes I’m sorry you have such a hard time with state employee’s but I do too but don’t be so ignorant as to lump us all in the same category.

Dawn

May 28th, 2009
9:21 pm

The above comment should say betting person not beating person. Got a little carried away while typing.

Tommy

May 28th, 2009
9:31 pm

Some of the idiots that replied on here are as such IDIOTS. Yall talking about cutting jobs like you could care less about people’s families. That’s why you racist bastards will never and I repeat never get into Heaven acting like judgemental jackasses. I ain’t hard to find if you need to see me. Just go to Southwest Atlanta or Greenbriar and u can find me.

wha?

May 28th, 2009
9:33 pm

“I’d beat they all think your an ass hole”? Maybe you meant “bet” and “you’re”?

prosecutor

May 28th, 2009
9:34 pm

When you child gets raped and murdered, but the prosecutors and judges are furloughed so the criminal goes free, then will you still claim all state workers are slugs? Are there some state employees that aren’t essential? Sure. But this budget is cutting everyone off at the knees, not just the supposedly unessential. Governing means making hard choices. Across the board cuts is a lazy, inept and foolish way of managing a billion dollar operation. Shame, shame, shame.

Trudi

May 28th, 2009
9:35 pm

Do any of you geniuses who are bashing state workers and programs actually understand the dynamics between projected revenue and actual expenses? Do you understand WHY we’re in this situation? No, I didn’t think so.

Lothar

May 28th, 2009
9:39 pm

Is it just me, or are the comment sections of daily newspapers filled with some of the worst ad hominems, non sequiters, unfounded generalizations, and outright lying on the Internet? I used to be vehemently against censorship, but I’m beginning to reevaluate my position. How did Internet users become so hateful and stupid?

KTIV

May 28th, 2009
9:39 pm

Hey Trudi, good job answering your own question.

Steve

May 28th, 2009
9:48 pm

CUT SPENDING – How about our tax dollars going to public golf courses to subsidize the cost so a round of golf costs less?

Red Boy

May 28th, 2009
10:06 pm

The problem with the state is that there are alot of people and I mean alot of people making 50,000+ thousands of dollars a year who don’t do anything. DHR is overrun with nepotism at the state office. The people that citizens deal with everyday are the ones that are hit the hardest. They got people making 100,000 dollars a year with state cars and accounts. I mean if you are making that much do you need a state vehicle. I work with people who have to catch the bus to work!! They need to get rid of this useless administration jobs with the big salaries that serve no purpose. That will probably save the state 200 million right there. The employees that come face to face with the citizens should be the last ones to suffer.

tc

May 29th, 2009
8:11 am

Enter your comments here

tc

May 29th, 2009
8:21 am

the only way to get out of this mess is to stop digging the whole deeper. the gov and his revenue estimator ought to get fired or big pay cut in the very least. next they should tax the beejeesus out of anyone who made “paper profits” without adding value to our economy. next everyone ought to have skin in the game (of pain) no exceptions, screw all the lobbyists. in the immortal words of archie bell and the drells, it’s time to “tighten up”. and it probably would not hurt for all the friggin countries we have helped thru the years to bear some of the responsibilty for protecting the world from nutbags like korea, obl etc.

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
8:43 am

And let me make sure I am understood..ITS NOT ABOUT STATE WORKERS. I am saying that a public radio / television station that absorbs 18 million from legislature that MAY do a good job with “kids programming”, a few other things” is not THE BEST use of 18 million bucks.
I am for the things that contribute to helping us have productive, educated, safe state. THE TELEVISION/radio programs that were offered in 1960’s and 1970’s are DUPLICATED by all the other proliferation of outlets in todays media landscape.

There are some shows on NICK, and NOGGIN that have exact same educational messages and BETTER quality of production!!!!

Just take the 18 mill and give it to probation officers, school programs, WHATEVER.

Its just 18 million duplicating what we already get. How many times can I watch DOO WOP, OKIE Noodling, ELVIS,Wayne Dyer, etc. ITS the same ole same ole. There local productions either air one time or they show the same GA Outdoors , etc over and over.

Lets let GPB stay in tact but just run the network programming. Ever seen the building they are in? I visited there once, its is RIDICULOUS. Funny thing ————-media stays away from hurting other media- so this story will never get to RICHARD BELCHER, or the I TEAM investigations. Poor souls all cohort together

GPB isn't the problem

May 29th, 2009
3:21 pm

$18 million is nothing compared to the $$$$$$$$$ that are being spent on Go Fish!

let it go

May 29th, 2009
3:25 pm

Hateslosing, you are living up to your name.

Look at the Emmy Awards and you’ll see that most of the winners in kid’s programming are from PBS. If you think Noggin or Nick are of the same educational caliber, you are sorely mistaken. Watch the programs as a teacher would and you’ll see the difference. The other bonus to watching kid’s stuff on PBS is NO COMMERCIALS.

You’re also in the dark regarding the primetime offerings. Have you ever watched ‘Frontline’? Do you think any commercial news outlet would have the balls that this show has? Not a chance. It’s the non-commercial aspect that allows them to do what they do. What about Masterpiece Theater? NOVA? Neither of these programs has ever been duplicated on cable… Their quality is unmatched.

Oh and another thing – in GA, between 40-60% of television owners have cable. That means that the rest don’t have access to the cable offerings, so PBS is all they have. There goes your ‘Noggin’, ‘Nick’, ‘A&E’ and ‘Discovery’ argument…. Better programming – free for everyone.

Also, the lion’s share of that $16m ( note the $ – get your facts straight) is used for educational programs that are streamed out to our schools via satellite and the PBS programming. The local stuff that you are talking about is almost completely funded outside of the grant they get from the government, or through underwriting / membership. Also – that department is largely gone per the layoffs/firings of late.

The building they are in was a source of scandal in the late 90’s and people went to jail for it. However, now that building (and the equipment) is paid-for so your argument is moot.

There’s a reason that the I-Team hasn’t done anything about them – there’s no story to be told.

Now go bark up another tree…

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:30 pm

I agree with that GPB- BUT if you take the places that make no sense and wont eb missed…………..It will add up and by the way I agree with you on Fish……..I dont think there is any ONE problem…………..I just am loking at the difference in state departments that actually contribute to the greater good VERSUS those that contribute to life that showul be or could be OPTIONAL and let em tell you 18 milion bucks could be spent in our school systems and make a difference. Does GPB make a difference ? Does it contribute to safety/quality of life in Georgia? Does it affect the masses- hell no.There ratings are what would get regular TV/radio folks FIRED!!!! The police scanner gets better ratings in some counties!!!! Think about what is relative!!! I get my NPR radio from satellite and I dont remember when I saw something on GPB tv that interests me or that I can get a better program from History Channel or Nat GEO. The Abe Lincoln specials that aired in February. I dvd’d them all, and GPB ?NPB was the absolute worst and OI watched 4 total on 4 different nets…………..I could not have done that in the 1960’s, 70’s or most of 80’s but I can now. That is my whole point

let it go

May 29th, 2009
3:32 pm

‘Go Fish’ was $37m total in 2008, outside of a $50m set aside for land conservation.

Tax breaks approved by lawmakers during the 2009 session will cut state revenue $168 million during the upcoming fiscal year, and $1.3 billion in a few years.

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:34 pm

Let it Go- I hope you and the other 2,000 people that watch GPB enjoy what is left and by the way…………….. you better look closer at televisions in GEORGIA WITHOUT SATELLITE OR CABLE- its like 5-10% at most. AND last i heard alot of schools ystems dont even USE the GPB stuf and the sateliites were taken down.Ask someone there!!
AND if they want to use the ed part- I AM FOR IT. Let them have their own little closed circuit station. They could operate it out of 2-3 offices………………..You must work there defending that overblown piece of state buraecracy so much.Hope you are there in December!

Doesn't make a difference??!

May 29th, 2009
3:39 pm

Are you kidding me? The guy just painted it out for you: if you DON’T HAVE CABLE, IT’S YOUR ONLY OPTION. Hell yes, they make a difference – ANYONE CAN WATCH. Do you even have kids? Do they only watch Hannah Montana and Power Rangers? Well, good luck with your ignorant dumb-ass kid. You know – the one that cries and begs and throws a fit for the PowerPuff Girl they saw in the checkout line – the same one that they’ve been conditioned to want from the ads on commercial tv.

Grow a brain, idiot. Better yet – watch some PBS Kids stuff. Maybe you’ll learn how to spell. Then watch some ‘Newshour’ and ‘Frontline’. Maybe you’ll learn how to think.

But I doubt it….

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:46 pm

We dont let them watch tv- they read!!! As far as being an idiot- I appreciate that. No biggie Enjoy you Sesame Street. Watch NOGGIN by the way just for an hour…………..5-10% of the state has no cable or satellite.check your numbers. I think where your state ranks in education speaks alot for how well ALL of the 18 million is working!!!!
Very nice…………………..My net worth is over 1 million……… I am liquid 750k………….I got mine working……………..hope you get yours watching OKIE NOODLING on GPB, etc

Hatelosing has lost

May 29th, 2009
3:48 pm

Per the Cable Television Assn of GA annual report (2008):
# of cable subscribers in GA: 2,142,350
# of satellite subscribers in GA: 1,658,212
Total cable & satellite: 3,800,562
GA population: 9,685,744

% getting TV “OTA” (over-the-air): 60.762%

DOH

May 29th, 2009
3:50 pm

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:53 pm

Ok Ok numbers dont look right………….- BUT ya’ll think i want to shut down PUBLIC BRoadcasting. I DONT…………………… THE KIDS SHOWS and good stuff are all NETWORK PRODUCED AT NATIONAL LEVEL……………..I am for the network- but what we spend on LOCAL type stuff, etc is NOT well spent money Gonna check thsoe numbers b/c those look like NON cable numbers or duplicates……..

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:57 pm

FROM NIELSEN

During this period, households with broadcast only (i.e., no cable or satellite service) TVs declined from 11.5 percent to 10.9 percent while cable or satellite service has increased slightly from 88.5 percent to 89.1 percent. This increase may be related to the upcoming transition to digital television that was originally set to take place in February 2009.

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
3:59 pm

The first thing wrong with your percentage is TV Households average 1.3 person in each hh. You need the number of HOUSEHOLDS in GA NOT PEOPLE MORON…………A subscriber is a BILL (usually one name) but has 1.3 people living inside the subscriber.
Fix your math

Erm...

May 29th, 2009
4:01 pm

Dude – look at the rest of the budget. Look at the handouts the legislature has given to Delta, Gulfstream, and many other large corporations. Look at the money they’ve thrown away on boat ramps and the like. Check out the tax-breaks dolled out to the corporate-sluts at the capitol.

THAT’S the story… THAT’S where to cut. GPB? It’s f-ing pennies compared to the hundreds of millions lost to stuff like that every single year. Plus, PBS actually does something worthwhile. I listen to NPR every day – twice a day. Love Frontline too…

Pledge drives are teh sux, though

Hateslosing has lost (still)

May 29th, 2009
4:08 pm

nice catch on the math – that slipped by:

Total # of non-OTA subscribers (adjusted): 4,940,730
Total # of GA residents: 9,685,744
% getting TV OTA: 48.99%

So eliminating funding would affect nearly half of Georgia residents in a negative way. That’s not a good policy decision, no matter what side you are on.

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
4:10 pm

From Georgia Census Divide THIS NUMBER by your two top ones

Housing units, 2007 —3,961,474

Lets see 3.9 million divided into 3.8 million—— is that still 60% If it is Public Broadcasting has worked for you!!!! So 100,000 people need there GPB

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
4:14 pm

YOU CANNOT DIVIDE PEOPLE IN SUB NUMBERS. My house I am the subscriber- I have 4 in my home. We are 1 hh, 5 population. And I agree with abover about teh good things they do—BUT ITS NATIONAL!!!! JUST RUN NATIONAL STUFF.. Pledge drives bother me too. BUT EVERY PLEDGE DRIVE is DOO WOP.,ELVIS, Wayne DYER and the PAY for those with that money!!! HELL THE HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS IS THE ONLY THING THAT IMPACTS MOST PEOPLE!!!kids, parents grandparents- do more of that!!! Is my only point-TOUCH MORE PEOPLE than they do

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
4:25 pm

In Atlanta, Nielsen estimates that about 138,700households (or 5.9% of that media market) rely entirely on over-the-air broadcasts.

Bet its about same for each major market in Georgia……………Majority of population is here so numbers will be going down anyway

1965

May 29th, 2009
4:27 pm

Government shouldn’t be in the business of broadcasting, no matter what it costs the taxpayers. GPB is a prime example of this.

Hateslosing

May 29th, 2009
4:38 pm

I am through here-
Pints to leave with.. I love NPR and Public Broadcasting…I dont think GEORGIA runs a good fiscally responsible LOCAL end……………If it ran all PBS programming- GREAT!!!!! The job GPB radio news is phenomenal they do well local it takes less money to do radio……..JUST pare it down off the 18 mill ………….Run it for 9 and we’d get same good stuff from networks? Little here little there and state will win in the end!!!!!
You still cant divide population numbers into subscriber numbers…IT IS TWO DIFFERENT UNIVERSES………………BUT I understand what you think BUT IT DOES NOT affect more than 10% of the HH’s in GEORGIA and the folks in too many rural areas dont watch GPB because of education/income levels…………..Do you think Johnny Farmer in south Georgia turns on GPB 3-5 hours per week? Does he have the background to understand those Saturday British Comedies? Wayne Dyers “touch me feel me feel better” seminars?

Good by forever-Its funny I just looked up GPB tv ratings compared to rest of tv…………..The two or three that even watch are in this blog!

sick of it

May 31st, 2009
1:08 pm

Yet again, state employees will have to bear the brunt for an idiot who does not know until the last minute he has no money! There is NO way to accomplish this but to furlough employees at the last minute. Considering his state’s ability to educate only in the very bottom percentiles – NO group should be spared and that includes teachers paid to do nothing for summer break!

Tucker

June 1st, 2009
7:49 am

I am grateful for public television. There are some people out there (like me) that do not have cable. This financial crisis is only a wake-up call to our frivilous spending. God says in his Holy Word that if His people, who are called by His name, will humble themselves and pray, will seek his face and turn from their wicked ways, then He will heal their land.(2 Chronicles 7:14) Please remember that everything begins with God (Adonai, Elohim) and will end with God.

TWEEDLE DEE TWEEDLE DUMB(NOT)

June 1st, 2009
4:26 pm

The state of Georgia has only two options. Those options will insure the state is properous in the future. Option 1- Avoid being a California and cut the fat, cut the waste, cut the unavoidable. This will have to be done by trimming the number of employees at every level.
Before you say ” Cutting employees will create a mass chaos”, the role of government is not to create jobs. It has to be done. The salaries of the employees is not the key here, the benefits and cost of the employees are main contributor. The government must immediately issue State Identification cards- I know I know that is going against the free way of life we have lived, however with the high number of illegals who have raped and pillaged our public health, public school and police services we have no other choice but to know who is really who and send those not legal to another state or country to relieve some of the economic stress inside the State.
Option No. 2- Just wait it out and become another California, no one will let the state borrow money and the credit rating will amount to a collapse of bonds.

Take corporate tax rates to 0% for 6 months to a year.
Initiate a state income sales tax in lieu of personal income tax.
Make everyone pay even those who do not and have never paid a dime in taxes.

Good luck .

Hateslosing

June 2nd, 2009
11:33 am

by the way- isnt it funny we have 2 count em TWO Public Broadcasting stations in Atlanta on radio and tv…..And they do a better job than the state run one……………….and the atlanta people serve more of the state anyway—–wanna talk more about waste?

Sandy

June 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm

The state lottery should cut salaries and advertising,that means more money for education. Where are the cuts for the legislature and gov.

Hateslosing

June 5th, 2009
9:29 am

lottery ainta state agency

ADA

June 5th, 2009
10:00 am

I’m a career prosecutor for the State. I was a trial attorney before I went into prosecution. I work more hours, make less pay, go to places like Jekyll Island in the summer and Callaway Gardens in the winter for conferences instead of Amelia Island in order to get my mandated continuing legal education, AND I forfeit more and more leave every year because I can’t “afford” to take the time off and keep up with my caseload. Yet, thanks to Gov. Perdue, I had to manage to find the time to take one day off a month from Sept. 08 to Feb. 09, two days off a month from Mar. through May, and PRIOR to the mandated 25% budget cut, I was told I would have to take THREE days off in June. As noted, I still have to pay the same taxes.

Why do I (and others like me) do it? Because we really, truly believe in what we are doing. We feel a desire and dedication to help those who have been victimized by criminals, AND we have a duty to try to see justice done, NOT just win cases for those who are paying our salaries…

Tom

June 30th, 2009
11:05 am

Do all the people wanting state employees laid off realize that state employees make up a good part of your consumer base. So for everybody that works in private industry the state employees buy your companies’ products. When the state employees get laid off they can no longer buy your products which means your company will have to cut your jobs soon as well.

frank burmaster

August 2nd, 2009
3:40 pm

Want to know the truth about what is happening? Go to http://www.worldreports.org and read the items in the archive section. This is a very well respected magazine that both the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve subscribed to.