Troubling news for Georgia today after the U.S. Education Department issued a progress report citing grave concerns about the state’s Race to the Top progress. Here is a link to the newly released 17-page report.
What has the U.S. DOE concerned is Georgia’s struggles with introducing and implementing a new teacher evaluation, a central piece of the state’s $400 million Race to the Top grant.
In a press call Thursday, the US DOE said that while most Race to the Top recipients were progressing satisfactorily, they were concerned with the stumbles in Georgia, the District of Columbia and Maryland.
“Race to the Top has sparked dramatic changes, and in only the second year of the program we’re seeing those results reach the classroom,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. “Most states have made tremendous strides and met aggressive timelines on work that has the potential to transform public education for years to come. Comprehensive education reform isn’t easy, and a few states have faced major challenges in implementing their plans. As we reach the halfway point, we need to see every state show results.”
The fed’s focus on Georgia’s stumbles is not a surprise. In July, U.S. Department of Education officials said the $33 million in Georgia’s grant dedicated to the new evaluations is ”at high risk.”
Federal officials feared that Georgia has strayed too far from its original plans to create a teacher/leader evaluation system with four key components: classroom observations, student growth, a reduction in the student achievement gap and student surveys. They also worry that the state is proposing changes before it finds out how well the proposed new evaluations worked. They were tried out in 26 school districts from January to May of last year.
Here is an excerpt from the report:
Georgia experienced significant challenges related to implementation of its educator evaluation system in Year 2 of its Race to the Top grant. The Department is concerned about the overall strategic planning, evaluation, and project management for that system, which include decisions regarding the quality of the tools and measures used during the educator evaluation pilot and the scalability of the supports the State offered to participating LEAs.
For example, during Year 2, the State piloted the educator evaluation system in a portion of schools in its participating LEAs, but did not complete the statistical analyses to determine the degree of correlation between the key components of the system—i.e., student growth percentiles, student surveys, observation protocols—in time to inform the design and roll-out of the evaluation system in subsequent years as originally planned. As a result of these concerns, the Department placed the
educator evaluation projects in the Great Teachers and Leaders section of Georgia’s Race to the Top plan on high-risk status.
Across its Race to the Top plan, Georgia has faced difficulty developing and implementing a comprehensive communications plan that illustrates how all of its Race to the Top projects are complementary and cohesive. In addition, strategic planning across Race to the Top projects was a challenge for the State and affected participating LEAs’ ability to implement key components of the State’s plan, including CCGPS and the educator evaluation system.Further, Georgia must revise its processes for monitoring and assessing the quality of implementation of Race to the Top projects at both the State and LEA levels. The State must amend its Race to the Top Scope of Work to reflect these challenges and their implications. Georgia also experienced delays in implementation among its Race to the Top projects. For example, Georgia released its benchmark assessment request for proposals (RFP) roughly nine months later than planned because it was determining how best to approach the project without duplicating the work of the Partnership for Assessment of Readiness for College and Careers (PARCC). As a result, Georgia was several months behind in securing a contract to complete the work for the benchmark assessments. The State was also delayed in the implementation of several STEM activities by over one year.
The second annual report on the recipients of $4 billion in competitive grants under the Obama administration’s signature education redesign program reveals that the majority of winners are struggling in two areas: implementing teacher- and principal-evaluation systems, and building and upgrading sophisticated data systems that will do everything from inform classroom lessons to identify students at risk of academic failure.
And Education Department officials say they are most worried about three recipients for which second-year performance took a nose dive: the District of Columbia, Georgia, and Maryland.
Georgia and Maryland have both struggled with implementing their teacher-evaluation systems, while the District of Columbia’s sluggish pace on school turnarounds means it has only worked with one persistently low-achieving school with its grant funds so far.
“This is really hard work, and there will always be bumps in the road,” said U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan in a call with reporters.
Georgia and the District of Columbia are perhaps in the biggest trouble right now, as department officials say they are encouraged with the new state leadership in Maryland.
Part of Georgia’s $400 million Race to the Top grant is on “high-risk status”—an official designation that can lead to losing grant funding—for weaknesses in implementing its teacher-evaluation system. Their second-year performance, in particular, concerned the department.
For their part, Georgia officials said they’re working to straighten things out with federal officials. State education department spokesman Jon Rogers said Georgia has made “quality progress” in four of the five conditions federal officials placed on its grant—which included things like improving the overall management of the teacher-evaluation system. The final condition, which is using feedback and data to improve Georgia’s educator-evaluation systems, will come after teacher and leader evaluations are done this school year, Mr. Rogers said.
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
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Just let us teach
February 1st, 2013
9:32 am
This is where the money is spent in education, one useless program after another. Why don’t we just fully fund education to eliminate shortened school year and furlough days and just let the teachers teach?
Just let us teach
February 1st, 2013
9:33 am
should have been “the shortened school year”
d
February 1st, 2013
9:38 am
I despised GTEP for not giving me any useful feedback other than “You’re satisfactory” and I now despise TKES for what seems to be an impossible goal of exemplary, trying to justify the growth model between completely unrelated courses or waiting 3 years between tests, and surveys that so far (this is just anecdotal evidence) students are not taking seriously. I crave feedback and evaluation – it is the only way I can perfect my craft, but to insist that students are widgets or customers (and that seems to be what TKES does) is doing a huge disservice to the students.
Just let us teach
February 1st, 2013
9:41 am
I could really care less whether or not the administrator who has no knowledge of what I teach is impressed with what I do.
Rick L in ATL
February 1st, 2013
9:59 am
Teacher evaluation panels should consist of a principal, a parent and an outside expert approved by both parents and the district, and there should be extensive use of video in the process so that termination (or bonus) decisions can be documented.
If you just do this much, you get better and fairer evaluations from day one. The current system relies too heavily on the discretion of principals and admins and is corrupted by the pettiness and egos of those folks far too often. Parents, have you met some of the APS bureaucrats who are making these crucial decisions about who’s a good teacher and who’s not? Trust me, you do not want to delegate these decisions solely to them.
sw
February 1st, 2013
10:03 am
“I could really care less whether or not the administrator who has no knowledge of what I teach is impressed with what I do.”
AMEN!
cherokee teacher
February 1st, 2013
10:05 am
Isn’t Jon Rogers the brother of Chip Rogers? That says a lot…
cris
February 1st, 2013
10:06 am
Administration is drowning just trying to keep up with the number of evaluations and the online TKES site is quite possibly the most user-unfriendly I have ever come across. I think the state DOE jumped into this with their eyes closed (and their noses plugged) and now maybe they understand how us “little people” feel when this gigantic new evaluation AND common core have been dumped on teachers. No fun, huh? Waste of time, money and resources, huh?
FBT
February 1st, 2013
10:13 am
Once again, students and taxpayers lose and educrats win.
alco
February 1st, 2013
10:13 am
most waste of taxpayer money on all these “evaluation” grants & programs — it just never ends in DC–all this money gets squandered on useless consultants and new “models” that get shelved in 2-3 years and the process starts again.
red herring
February 1st, 2013
10:17 am
educators in ga. have no desire to be evaluated—most think they are somehow above it all. sad to say when there is a lot of incompetence out there. with the nepotism, favoritism, and in many places racism factors in play—-i believe the only fair evaluations must come from outside. i do not see ga. educators successfully evaluating themselves or their friends. it hasn’t happened yet in my lifetime.
Teacher
February 1st, 2013
10:21 am
Why are administrators doing the evaluations? They have no idea what teachers do…same with parents. I think other teachers need to come in to evaluate teachers. Other teachers understand what is real teaching, versus whatever buzzword garbage the administrators are currently concerned with that week. Our observations by our administrators for TKES are a joke. Very biased, and they don’t really understand what’s going on in classrooms. And I’m not complaining based on my results – I’m judged as one of the “exemplary” ones. However, others that are also just as good as me are giving proficient or lower because of biased administrators.
It’s a joke, it doesn’t work. Have teachers do the reviewing, or get rid of all this junk altogether and actually pay teachers. Better teachers will appear if you offer decent pay. Oh, and allow for a way to fire teachers, like any other job…don’t make hoops to jump through when someone has proven to be worthless. Granted, for that, you would need a way to easily remove worthless administrators as well. I think the percentage of worthless administrators is higher than the percentage of worthless teachers.
d
February 1st, 2013
10:29 am
@Red herring – quite the contrary. We crave the feedback (as I just said). The problem is the old system didn’t do anything to help any teacher and the new system is going to the other extreme. It seems to be put together by bureaucrats who don’t have any idea what they are doing. Several districts around the country are using what is known as PAR – Peer Assistance and Review – to help new teachers and experienced teachers who are struggling become better teachers. Top teachers in the district are actually out of the classroom for 2 or 3 years depending on the district focusing strictly on helping their peers become the best teachers possible. We have not been evaluating ourselves or our friends – even under GTEP. All I ask for is a fair system of evaluation that can truly show what I am capable of and where I need additional support.
USG Professional
February 1st, 2013
10:29 am
Has any parent out there actually tried to teach his/her child how to read? How to subtract? Being able to do something yourself does NOT necessarily mean you know to TEACH someone else how to do it. What can parents say about a teacher that is meaningful from an educational standpoint? “I like her?” “She goes to my church?” “I didn’t like the way she told the students that the Civil War was about slavery!”?
I will be the first (and oftentimes am) to acknowledge that Schools/Colleges of Education are too frequently where students end up after they FAIL in an academic major. (”Gee, I didn’t know I would have to pass Statistics to be a Psychology major — guess I’ll major in Education instead.”) There certainly ARE incompetent teachers out there. There are also burned-out teachers and over-burdened teachers. But to think that parents are equipped to evaluate professionals is ludicrous. Would you place parents on the licensing/evaluation board for physicians? The ugly truth is really very simple: We will have good, talented, professional teachers when the Schools of Education cease to be dumping grounds for students who can’t succeed anywhere else.
RJ
February 1st, 2013
10:34 am
I have no problem with evaluations, I welcome them. I work hard every day to ensuer my students are learning. However, they are not knowledgeable in my field, therefore they have no idea what they’re evaluating. They often ask questions about my lesson and what was being taught. They love what they see, but are clueless about the content. I would much rather have my coordinator evaluate my teaching. They can provide meaningful feedback. Regardless, my days are numbered in this career.
DunMoody
February 1st, 2013
10:40 am
Unintended consequences: the state DOE and powers-that-be saw that Race to the Top Money and said “Yay!” as they cut Georgia’s education budget beyond reason. But they didn’t ask the front lines if we even have the infrastructure to meet the requirements. Case in point: at Dunwoody High School, teachers have had to commit valuable instruction time for pre- and post-evaluations, teacher evaluations, etc. without supporting technology, internet access, sufficient computer workstations for each student, etc. Many teachers had to just give up because of the impossibility of the available technology.
You can’t fix stupid.
indigo
February 1st, 2013
10:41 am
This just another social experment designed to, somehow, bring minority test scores up to par with white ones.
Even though Govt. officials have long since known no experiment of any kind will succeed in this area, they must keep them comming. Otherwise, civil right “leaders” would be all over them crying RACISM RACISM RACISM!!!!
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HOC
February 1st, 2013
10:41 am
The system is not user friendly at all for teachers or admin as someone suggested. Education is becoming one big fiasco in this country with too many hands in the pot with many interest outside of educating children.
A Concerned Parent
February 1st, 2013
10:44 am
To USG Professional: Yes, I am a parent “out there” who has taught my daughter to read AND subtract. I work at least 50-60 hours a week, then come home and spend all evening helping my 1st grader in hopes of enabling her to excel at what she is not getting in the classroom. Not saying the teacher is incompetent, but busy with the number of students in the classroom…so yes, I feel I could fairly evaluate the teacher. Have to say, I think you need a new profession as it sounds as if you are one of the “burned-out” teachers.
HOC
February 1st, 2013
10:48 am
@USG Professional…You are right on about this but first teaching must be attractive financially and organizationally. We know it is not. I have told my nephews and daughters to not even consider Education as a major because it is stressful beyond belief (especially if you are talented and care). It is a calling but the ones called will not come into this chaos.
x
February 1st, 2013
10:52 am
Why would anyone want to be a teacher anyway? (I am in my 32nd year of teaching in public school in GA.) We get very little respect in the community. Everyone SAYS they respect us and support us, but at crunch time the support vanishes. We are required to have more education than any profession other than those in the medical field or lawyers. Our pay is no where near those professions. Worst of all, our society does not value education. The majority of my students (and I teach in a properous community with excellent schools) are, at best, indifferent to getting a high level education. The level of apathy toward education in our society is soaring. Parents do not do their part, students come to us unprepared to learn, and we are most often seen as the enemy when we try to discipline unruly students. The apathy, and its resulting frustration on the part of teachers, is the worst thing with which I deal on a daily basis. It starts at home and most AMERICAN parents are not doing what needs to be done before their children ever get to school.
Sorry for rambling. I fear I am approaching burnout.
Kris
February 1st, 2013
10:54 am
This is why we need a Governor (loosely used terrn) who is interested in the development of our state and our education system , but instead his priorities lie in taking payoffs, building stadiums, and asphalt. Teachers need good pay raises and our School’s need SRO’s. Keep our children safe
Welcome to GA 48th in education. And proudly NUMBER! in political corruption.
Bye Nate (shady dealer.)…2014.
HOC
February 1st, 2013
10:57 am
@ Concerned Parent. When your daughter is older, you will not be able to walk into a Calculus class, AP Economics class or a British Lit class and evaluate the teacher’s content delivery. I am not sure you can do a fair job at it in the first grade.
Yes we go to school for our content area and to study pedagogy (and it is an art).
Unfortunately most parents think we are camp counselors, high end baby sitters and maybe some are but most I know are not.
Business Like
February 1st, 2013
10:57 am
How are you evaluated in your job? When I worked in private industry, before I was a teacher, my boss set down with me and told me what he or she thought were my strengths and what were my weaknesses. A decision was made as to whether or not I would receive a pay raise that year. Why do we think that a review for a public educator should take 40+ hours of work per year, when in the private sector you might spend 2 hours preparing for the review and 20 minutes talking with the employee. We need to have better priorities. Demand excellence from your elected representatives.
Steve W
February 1st, 2013
11:01 am
duh
Concerned Parent
February 1st, 2013
11:05 am
The Democrats ran this state for 200 years and Republicans took over in 2003.
This state has not improved one iota in the education and schooling of its public education students, under both parties.
Pehaps its the parents, or the lack of parenting that contributes to this generational problem.
Instead of looting the taxpayers for more money, the teachers unions need to be busted and the top-heany administration needs to disbanded.
Tim Ryles
February 1st, 2013
11:12 am
I have mixed reactions to this. I recognize a need to improve the educational process; however,an underlying premise of reform that students and parents are consumers and education is a product disturbs me. There is a good reason why we have teachers and students: teachers know more, students know less. If teachers need to know more, then we need to see that they get proper training. It is not a democratic system and should never be evaluated as such, nor is a classroom a micro-market governed by rules of the market place. Besides, the schools do an outstanding job of satisfying goals the public truly expects of them and is willing to pay for: we turn out some of the greatest football players in the nation.
Principal Skinner
February 1st, 2013
11:13 am
Hey MD,
Are you diggin into the rumor that Atkinson has resigned? Some folks in DCSS believe that an announcement is forthcoming at 1pm today
A Concerned Teacher
February 1st, 2013
11:15 am
A Concerned Parent,
Congrats on being one of the few who can.
Mandy
February 1st, 2013
11:16 am
Could someone please explain to me why, on Yahoo, there is a banner of “Sates with the Best and Worst School Systems,” with a link to an article from Jan 16, 2013 regarding the research publication, also put out by Education Week, that is saying the exact opposite. This is the 17th annual status of education in all 50 states, in which GA is ranked #7. The article Staes: “Georgia is one of a minority of states that evaluate teachers annually, and is also among the minority in tying teacher evaluations to student performance.” Sounds to me like we’re getting two completely different stories on the same subject. So, which one is right??
A Concerned Teacher
February 1st, 2013
11:17 am
A Concerned Parent,
I retract the previous statement. We don’t have “Unions” in this state. Please go back North and complain about their unions.
paulo977
February 1st, 2013
11:17 am
Just let us teach….”Why don’t we just fully fund education to eliminate shortened school year and furlough days and just let the teachers teach?”
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Because those ‘alleged’ education directors have no clue as to what real EDUCATION IS!!!
sneak peak into education
February 1st, 2013
11:20 am
@ Concerned Parent; You state “Instead of looting the taxpayers for more money, the teachers unions need to be busted” as a cause of the state of education in Georgia but how come the states that are unionized are the states that continually perform better, in general, than the states that where unions are illegal i.e. Georgia?
Maureen Downey
February 1st, 2013
11:21 am
@Skinner, I asked her about that yesterday as we are also aware of the speculation, fueled by frequent meetings behind closed doors of the school board.
She said, “I can’t comment on that.”
Made me wonder as I expected a clear denial that any such discussion was under way.
Maureen
Don't blame the parent
February 1st, 2013
11:23 am
Could we please have someone show our elected officials a presentation using really small words and pretty pictures showing that no company or business would want to move to Georgia if they cannot get a smarter work force who can do the required job. A new dome is not going to pick up the lost revenue. I pity the “legacy” that the politicians are leaving us.
bctman
February 1st, 2013
11:23 am
Such ridiculousness…. The economy improves and guess whats going to happen. Teachers leave the profession in Drones! Watch, my prediction, they wont be able to find anyone who wants the thankless job of teaching. So so sad!! Its all about teachers being bad. I work hard every day in the classroom and out of the classroom. Im done. This is my last year!
rookie math teacher
February 1st, 2013
11:25 am
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d
February 1st, 2013
11:28 am
@Business like – I can say that I have been on both sides of evaluation in the private sector…. and my boss’s boss read every evaluation in his district. I can vouch for putting in a lot of time to write effective performance evaluations (and I was rewarded for having the best/most thorough in the district on a couple of occasions). I want to know why I, as an educator, cannot have that kind of feedback. One walkthrough this semester got me dinged on a standard that, sure, in the 10 minutes the AP was in the classroom, I wasn’t doing, but it was in my plans and happened shortly after she left. How is that fair? Should I stop everything I am doing and put on some song and dance show when they are in the room – and in the process disrupt a well-planned out lesson?
rookie math teacher
February 1st, 2013
11:29 am
Fiasco would be an improvement. This is a race to the bottom. Republicans niether know nor care about urban education, Democrats the same. Teacher must organize. Join MACE
Irishmafia
February 1st, 2013
11:31 am
I have an extremely bright 3 yr old grandson (I taught for a number of years also). I fear putting him into any of the public school systems in this state ( i have worked with almost all of them over the past 20 years) all the teaching nodays is dumbed down to the loest common denominator and all about scores, nothing to do with learning, thinking. I will gladly give up retirement money to put him and granddaughter in a private school where they would get a real education. That being said, and a thesis for my Master’s. Despite the continual cries for more money (APS spens more money per pupil than any other state system -Where are the results?), the only thing that will ever make a difference, is when parents make education important to their kids.
MiltonMan
February 1st, 2013
11:32 am
A decent teacher evaluation program in GA??? Forget it. It will not happen because the “system” prefers to keep the incompetent teachers in the classroom. When my children attended public school there were many, many times I would find problems with homework assignments, memos sent home, etc. When I discussed this with the teachers, I always received the same answer – we are only allowed to teach the material assigned to us. What a freaking cop out. My response: Mr./Mrs. Teacher how about reviewing the material before you teach it???
Google "NEA" and "donations"
February 1st, 2013
11:33 am
From Pres. Obama on down, leading Democrats school their kids in private schools far, far from the influence of unionized teachers or the economic underclass.
Among that privileged class, teacher “evaluations” take the form of … transferring your kids to a different school when you’re unhappy with the help!
The National Education Association’s political donations (along with GAE’s here in Georgia) help ensure that the status quo will be maintained and reform kept on the back burner.
mountain man
February 1st, 2013
11:37 am
Teacher Evaluations? Sure. They should be broken down into two parts
How well does the teacher know the subject matter that he/she is teaching.
How well does the teacher present the subject matter to the students.
Nothing else should matter. Not Student performance (that would be evaluating STUDENTS). Not student opinions. Not parent opinions. If the teacher knows the material and is able to present it well, then they are a good teacher. Whether the student learns is controlled by other factors beyond the teacher’s control.
Pluto
February 1st, 2013
11:40 am
Eliminate the federal DOE and all of the strings attached to taking the dollars for education. Too much is wasted on the pet projects of the revolving door directors and administrators.
Principal Skinner
February 1st, 2013
11:41 am
Maureen Downey
February 1st, 2013
11:21 am
@Skinner, I asked her about that yesterday as we are also aware of the speculation, fueled by frequent meetings behind closed doors of the school board.
She said, “I can’t comment on that.”
Made me wonder as I expected a clear denial that any such discussion was under way.
Maureen
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Thanks MD. I know you’ll stay on it. There’s plenty of us here, with ALOT invested in DCSS. We don’t mind doiing the hard work of restructuring and rebuilding, but there’s got to be a light at the end of the tunnel to motivate us enough to continue the fight for these kids.
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
11:43 am
Teaching is like fishing. You can’t micromanage how someone fishes. You can, but it sure will not be any fun. I woke up this morning thinking, “I wish there was a government schools environment where I could teach and not have to turn in lesson plans – you know? Like in private schools?” Government schools teachers are required to make detailed lesson plans, often imitating a formula, telling what they are doing every minute of the day for each day. No one reads them. They take a lot of time to make. They are a major distraction to me and counterintuitive to the way I like to work, to speak plainly. And I do good work and get excellent results, but for the most part – literally – this is ignored. I’m not saying that to make a point, it is just how it is based on my personal experience of management emphasis on formula methods, management ignoring real accomplishment, and a separate issue, highly paid managers making life unpleasant for productive workers and choosing people out like a hit list, to do hit jobs. Competent teachers do not need overt supervision and management. The managers should be managing the students and student / family issues, which can be real and need accommodation. Currently, teachers are treated like the enemy in their own work environments and managers are directed away from their duties managing students, not teachers. I realise their may be some lame teachers, but my experience is working with capable and dedicated teachers and everybody being on the hot wire and having the endure a formula environment “lesson plans” “how to teach” “introduction / opening / lesson / closing.” It’s like we’re waiters in a restaurant or something.
I’d like to teach somewhere where you do not have to turn in lesson plans. Once administrator even suggested the publishing company providing the source materials should provide lesson plans to go with the source materials, and this would meet the need and relieve teachers of a time-consuming formula activity that for me is distracting to doing meaningful work. I think in macro overview, not in planned minute-to-minute efficiency scheduling. One teacher told me, with great relief, that when they left the government schools and went to work in private school, there were no more turning in of lesson plans, none of it.
FlaTony
February 1st, 2013
11:46 am
Good riddance! The Feds are trying to force Georgia to implement portions of teacher evaluations that are known to be unreliable and are a waste of money. Our state superintendent knows this and has alerted them to the problem. Yet they insist on full implementation of their plan. Test-based evaluations and student-survey-based evaluations are a waste of taxpayers’ money.
dc
February 1st, 2013
11:47 am
Baffling how anyone would think that a teacher is not responsible for a students actual performance. Only in the academic world…wow.
I think coaches should take that same tactic. “the score doesn’t matter, I should just be evaluated on how well I know the sport, and how good I am at talking to the players”……hilarious, and idiotic, all rolled up into one.
Fed up
February 1st, 2013
11:48 am
Not sure why any Georgia residents are surprised by this. Typical Georgia. Last in most all things this state is involved in. And this is what happens when a state is ruled by one party. Especially when that party does not believe in government, rules, regulations, standards, math and science. Couple that with a party who hates state employees and is head strong on reducing as many of them as possible all the while not giving raises in 7 years does make for quality teachers in the classroom as a whole. When you look at all this, are you really surprised that Georgia remains one of the most backwards screwed up places in the union? Oh I forgot, citizens here still want to susceed even though this state remains one of the largest takers of federal money. I don’t think that worked out for this state too well in the past….they lost and will continue to lose until they join the 21st century, and that means education is important more so than political cronies and lining your pockets while in office. Thanks Governor Deal. You’re doing a fine job it looks like.
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
11:54 am
One walkthrough this semester got me dinged on a standard that, sure, in the 10 minutes the AP was in the classroom, I wasn’t doing,
Evaluations are used like the teacher is the enemy, used for “gotcha.” It is very disheartening. The whole management culture is completely dishonest and they’re paid double what the teacher is paid, and the teacher has to do extra since there is a complete lack of teaching materials in many subject areas. Having some disconnected disembodied subtly dishonest non-teacher act as your boss and evaluate you is just the supreme buzz kill. Teachers are supposed to be smart. Often, the evaluator is following a formula and is not as smart as the teacher, yet is being paid double the teacher’s pay rate. It is just the supreme buzzkill, like putting Tide detergent in a bong and smoking it. REALLY HARSH.
Yep, I’ll never forget when Mr. Strike a Pose Big Shot who is so moved to make conceptual advice then goes and misspells the content materials on my super-formal evaluation. I mean, F. all of this! WTF?! They’re all in it for the MONEY. I’m not. And that right there is a huge thing because those admin. are all buzzin’ on the “playah” wavelength. Go visit a casino and you’ll find more honest people than career admin with their $100k salaries.
Google "NEA" and "donations"
February 1st, 2013
11:59 am
Meaningless paperwork is part of the price traditional public school teachers pay—for the near-total exclusion of market forces in K-12 education.
beanster
February 1st, 2013
12:04 pm
“I could really care less whether”
Ahem. So you care somewhat about the administrator’s impression of your teaching ability and now you care slightly less than before? Or, you don’t care at all and it’s not possible for you care any less than you do.
You folks are the teachers. Get it right. You could NOT care less.
AS
February 1st, 2013
12:08 pm
All of these programs are great, but when budgets are cut and class sizes increase none of these program work as they were not designed for 30+ students in a class room. Let’s work to reduce class size and maybe some of these programs will actually work. All they are doing right now are frustrating teachers and making them feel worthless.
mountain man
February 1st, 2013
12:09 pm
“I think coaches should take that same tactic. “the score doesn’t matter, I should just be evaluated on how well I know the sport, and how good I am at talking to the players”……”
Oh, so you know Coach Richt, do you.
We don’t pay Coach Rich $60,000 a year, we pay him $3 million a year and he can’t win a SEC championship unless his players play well. So if we evaluated him on his players performance, then he should be fired.
beanster
February 1st, 2013
12:10 pm
Also, Principal Skinner. ALOT is not a word.
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
12:13 pm
PS I’m generalising a great deal. “The whole management culture…” That’s not correct, I am just venting some, but I think state-wide their is much inconsitency. I think the formula methods tend to run off good administrators, too. Teachers become dependent on working for a good principal who will protect them from the outside world. When the good principal is gone, who knows what will happen. It is unfortunate that having a workable work environment is so dependent on the personal chemistry a teacher must have with a principal. There is so little autonomy for teachers to do there thing and then go home and have their own life. Surviving in a school can be like having join a cult. Maybe it pays a little more than signing up with the Hari-Krishna, and you don’t have to wear orange and sell flowers at the airport, but it doesn’t a whole lot more in my experience! (not as former Hari Krishna, just seen them in action hari hari, rama rama).
PS There used to be a lot of hari krishna in Atlanta. I think they’ve toned it down some, or been run off or something.
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
12:14 pm
beanster, ha ha ha. You’re killin’ me.
mountain man
February 1st, 2013
12:15 pm
“Baffling how anyone would think that a teacher is not responsible for a students actual performance”
So, DC, here is your assignment. I am going to give you a classroom full if inner-city students. Half of these kids will miss more than a month of instruction time. You are not allowed to give them failing grades for any days they missed or do anything about their attendance. You constantly have to interrupt your teaching to call down the discipline problems in the back of the room who are enjoying disrupting your class. yuou send them to the office, who sends them right back and tells you they are your responsibility. You are not allowed to spank them or keep them after school.
These kids will take an EOCT. If they fail, you will lose your job.
Good luck.
joke
February 1st, 2013
12:18 pm
The whole evaluation system is a joke as is our President who put the crap in.
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
12:21 pm
their / there / they’re. yah yah yah
dclark
February 1st, 2013
12:23 pm
The federal department of education should take its multi-billion dollar budget and divide it equally among all classroom teachers for two years then go out of business completely. “Arbitrary, mandatory and counter-productive” describes most programs they push, race to the top, TKE’S SLO’S etc. Give the teachers the money – they are doing the work !
Principal Skinner
February 1st, 2013
12:24 pm
beanster,
You missed my doouble “ii.”
Sorry but your self-appointed position as, Blog Grammerian has been eliminated due to your lack of attention to detail.
-Sincerely,
Everyone
dc
February 1st, 2013
12:28 pm
so mountain man, let’s just close all urban schools. why pay teachers, if they have no chance of making a difference. And re Richt, yes, he gets evaluated on results regularly.
Oh, and coaches of “non-athlete” schools shouldn’t ever be measured on the game score…since they are working with zero talent and have no chance. Yeah, that makes sense.
mountain man
February 1st, 2013
12:33 pm
“Oh, and coaches of “non-athlete” schools shouldn’t ever be measured on the game score…since they are working with zero talent and have no chance.”
They aren’t. Otherwise, all of the bottom 50% would be firing their coaches every year.
MoFaux
February 1st, 2013
12:37 pm
My wife’s a private teacher and she gets evaluated by a VERY experienced level coordinator who spends a lot time meeting and observing her classes, giving her feedback weekly. At the end of the year, her raise (a measly 1.5-2%) is a combination of the coordinator’s review, her own self-review, the director’s own opinion (definitely more involved than a principal is) and maybe a student survey (can’t remember for sure on the latter). Why can’t we employ this very simple idea into our public school system, to have experienced coordinators that actually know what is going on in the class rooms and have them do that actual reviewing, if principals and vice principals are too busy? Most of us workers have supervisors that do our reviews and teachers should be no different. Fire the bad ones, promote the good ones. I don’t understand why this stuff is so hard to implement.
beanster
February 1st, 2013
12:38 pm
Make fun of it as much as you want. I don’t consider typos to be bad grammar usage. If our educators cannot and are not doing it correctly, how on earth can we expect it of our students?
S
February 1st, 2013
12:42 pm
Ignorance is bliss in this state. Wait until all these private (charter) schools start sucking all that Government money from the public schools.. Can you say race to the bottom, oops, were already on the bottom, well almost, thank goodness for Mississippi. Republican run state Governments, aren’t they just special…NOT!
living in an outdated ed system
February 1st, 2013
12:46 pm
This is VERY disconcerting. I can tell you that my feeling is that Georgia’s “structural” deficiencies are a big part of the problem. Why do we have an elected State School Superintendent? It should be appointed by the Governor. Because of this, we have dual departments – GOSA and the DoE that are not aligned on agenda and strategy.
The same goes for urban school districts, where the Superintendent should be appointed by the Mayor, like in DC and NYC. Again, we need to amend our constitution whose flaws are exposed for the world to see…..
It would be shameful if we lost part of the RT3 grant due to something that was controllable.
Mitch
February 1st, 2013
12:49 pm
I have serious concerns with the Feds of just about everything so that should make us even.
gdfo
February 1st, 2013
12:51 pm
Dekalb County School Board needs to read this article.
Yes! I have taught my son and am now teaching my grandchildren not only reading and writing skills, but other things too. My mother actuall read to me when I very young, and I learned to read at HOME.
My parents were actively involved in my early years. That said.
The Georgia school system is good at protecting its own interests. Are they Luddites? (look it up)
This is not just a question of evaluating teachers. The whole system needs improvement. The public schools need real LEADERSHIP not opinion polls. Leadership sometimes does involve things that can be unpopuluar but important. Leadership means having a Vision and pursuing the means to accomplish that Vision.
And YES!! YOU the tax payers are paying people to protect their own self interests and failed programs and teaching techniques. How do you feel about that? Do you feel cheated?
Private Citizen
February 1st, 2013
12:56 pm
but P Skinner, he’s right! “a lot” is never ever one word!!! It wasn’t until I was neck deep in university that a kind professor pointed out to me the difference in “it’s” and “its.” The grammar basics really are an indicator of being educated and as professionals, it is appropriate to attend to the basics. He is doing you a favor. You would most definitely not want to publish “Alot of what you are doing is good…” on someone’s evaluation. PS Standard English also does not use contractions. Just an FYI, if you want to writer proper.
Hey, here’s a curve. Some of the clearest strongest writing I’ve seen in the last year is from an interview transcript with typed answers from the Korean music artist “PSY” (music hit: “Gangnam Style”). That guy is no peasant and had some superb education. His writing in English is incredibly elegant and crisp. Not sure about the cover songs, drag outfit and cone boobs. I guess it works in Korea – they are a little isolated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlr5K8aguY I tell you, though, dead serious, that guy was taught Standard English as good as I have seen anywhere.
Hall County Teacher
February 1st, 2013
12:56 pm
There are several problems with the new TKES. The first problem that I have with it is, it has already failed in other states. Why do we think that it will work in Ga? Much like the high school math curriculum (math I, II, II, IV), if it’s already failed once, isn’t that a good indication that it won’t be very good here? Another problem is timing. This is a big undertaking – as is rolling out CCGPS (ANOTHER new curriculum…) at the same time. IMHO, the GPS standards had just gotten going, why change them without seeing more than a 5-6 year period? Once you put the two of these going at the same time it creates a very stressful work environment for both teachers and administrators alike. Also, the training given to administrators was insufficent at best. I can blame the state department for this one. The TKES was rolled out with little to no knowledge on how to train our administrators on how the system works. In my personal situation, our admisitrators are still not quite sure how to best utilize the system. With that being said, some of them could really care less. There is a large population of administrators that are riding out the final few years before retirement. For them, this is just another hoop to jump through before sailing off into the educational sunset. They are not putting foth the time or the effort to efficently learn the system. The most effective way to get teachers to improve is to do away with tenure. I take pride in the way that I teach and that pride and self motivation is enough for me to do my best job. However, there is a large portion (maybe even a slight majority) of teachers who are 8-4 folks and once they get tenure could care less about rules. In today’s PC society, they are smart enough to know that it takes an act of congress to dismiss someone from his/her employment. In my building there are teachers who are 15-20 minutes late daily and leave 10-15 minutes late on the daily basis. No big deal right? What is 15 minutes going to hurt. Well, do the math. 30 minutes a day equates to 2 1/2 hours a week. That’s an entire work day per month and almost 2 weeks a year that these people are getting paid for and they are not working for it. That is stealing tax payer money!! However, these folks know that our admin. have bigger fish to fry than to monitor when someone is coming and going. To wrap up my rambling, if people actually feared for their jobs then there would be no use for a teacher evaluation system at all.
Neal Boortz
February 1st, 2013
1:00 pm
“From Pres. Obama on down, leading Democrats school their kids in private schools far, far from the influence of unionized teachers or the economic underclass. ”
Typical liberals ! They want your children to go to the government indoctrination centers but send their darlings to private school so they can be productive citizens. They don’t want school vouchers so you can be given the option of sending your kid to a better school where he or she might have a chance for a better life.
After what happened at Newtown and Price Middle I hope your children are wearing bullett-proof vests along with their backpacks!
Neal Boortz
February 1st, 2013
1:02 pm
“Ignorance is bliss in this state. Wait until all these private (charter) schools start sucking all that Government money from the public schools.. Can you say race to the bottom, oops, were already on the bottom, well almost, thank goodness for Mississippi. Republican run state Governments, aren’t they just special…NOT!” – S
S,
Were things really better under Democrat rule in Georgia and other parts of the South ?
I didn’t think so.
Math Teacher
February 1st, 2013
1:10 pm
dc – If you are going to use that flawed analogy involving coaches and teachers, let me let you in on something. Coaches get to cut players who are not up to par. Teachers have to teach whomever is on his/her roster! If I got to try out my students and cut them when they don’t perform, I’d always have a winning team!
Sick of government
February 1st, 2013
1:19 pm
Look to government to solve all of our problems.
You see what that has gotten us !
who cares
February 1st, 2013
1:24 pm
At most jobs, the end product is a direct reflection of your job performance. Why are teachers not wanting test results to be a part of the evaluation process? Yes, there are different levels of learning ability, but testing the subject knowledge being taught has to be a major component of teacher evaluations.
Ashley
February 1st, 2013
1:26 pm
Race to the Top Money is just wasted. This is money that is not spent on teachers, students, or classrooms. It is not worth one extra sheet of paperwork.
BRING BACK ZELL
February 1st, 2013
1:28 pm
Zell Miller is the ONLY governor who ever supported teachers.
Dr. Beverly Hall
February 1st, 2013
1:28 pm
Who was it, Zell Miller or Roy Barnes, both Democrats, that promised Georgians he would be the “education governor”? No progress has been evidenced after all these years.
You parents are complicit in producing such half-wit offspring !
No wonder I had my teachers rig those test scores !
Your kids are as stupid as the parents !
Obama doesn’t have enough stimulus dollars to make your brats any smarter !
paulo977
February 1st, 2013
1:29 pm
dclark….”Give the teachers the money – they are doing the work !”
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Thought everthing would change after NCLB ….Unfortunately RTTT continues the ‘devastation’!!!
Fled
February 1st, 2013
1:42 pm
Teachers, my heart goes out to you. I know that you all have put heart and soul into what is coming to seem like a more and more futile endeavor. Education in Georgia is a lost cause, and there is nothing you can do about it. Before you quit teaching, however, let me suggest that you consider changing the place where you teach.
All around the world, there are places where you would be valued and appreciated for the very things that you are being excoriated daily by ignorant folks like those who post on this blog. If you want to teach, there are ways to do it so that you will be respected, valued, and compensated more than fairly. True, you might have to make some sacrifices, especially at the beginning. It is not easy, but teaching is never easy, is it?
Maybe the problem is where you teach, not you. I went through long bouts of soul-searching over an extended time before fleeing, but I have never regretted doing so. Every time I read this blog, I am glad that I left.
Had enough yet, teachers? Give up. Throw in the towel. Flee.
Tony Geasley
February 1st, 2013
1:43 pm
If quailty teachers are important enough to make evaluation a majoy part of the system then why rush in to a system that would promote and demote teachers that is untried and very suspect. no know seems to know what the evaluation is or how it is calculated. My class is compared to some ghost class that some formula says is simmular but no one seems to know what the formula is. That is no way to improve education
start the litigation
February 1st, 2013
1:43 pm
This witch hunt is not turning out as they had hoped. Let the money go and leave the teachers alone
retiredPh.D.
February 1st, 2013
1:46 pm
Teacher evaluation is hard for a lot of reasons such as different styles, different kids in classes, different levels of experience and training, etc. This is complicated by pressures from the teacher unions/associations and the tenure issue.
I think there is another way to approach teacher evaluations relative to an attempt to improve our schools. Eliminate mandates/guidelines from the state and feds altogether. Instead, evaluate the progress of the school as a whole, as well as the unique populations within a school(special ed or exceptional children and ’slow learners’) and make it the basis for retaining or keeping a principal. Included in the evaluation of the principal should be imput from staff and parents. In return, the principal should be given complete control of hiring and dismissing staff members. If a tenure option remains due to political pressure from the union/associations, then tenure should only give the dissmissed staff member the right to consideration at another school in the system instead of a guranteed job. Furthemore, in order to increase the ability of our principals to be more effective managers, then they should be given greater freedom to remove intractible students from the school. Requiring schools to serve disruptive students has been the greatest undoing of public education. Presently, schools end up classifying these kids as having an emotional/behavioral disorder and doing their best to maintain them in special education classes. The problems related to this are enormous and the topic of a book, not a post on a website. When possible, they also send these kids to alternative environments. Our society has to get real about the problems we have created in our attempts to protect the rights of these children and their parents. What we have ended up with is a system which allows behavioral and emotional disorders to incubate until the child becomes an adolescent and is no longer a candidate for viable treatment even if it were available. Our ‘nanny’ state has removed parents from the equation in dealing with these students and this has to change. One of these kids being ‘mainstreamed’ in a regular classroom presents enormous challenges for any teacher and most teachers have 4 or 5 of these children in their classes. The school systems have to stop being considered a closed loop whereby total responsibility of these children are placed with them. Communities have to involve all agencies, particularly law enforcement, to make sure parents are doing their part, in getting these kinds of kids appropriate help. Principals need to have the flexibility to manage a reasonable situation for their teachers as opposed to expecting improvement from teachers who are overwhelmed with children beyond even the most talented specialists’ abilities, and yes, there are many children who meet this criteria. The end result is that management, principals, will have the authority to pursue their vision of managment, just as businesses in a free economy have this flexibility in deciding how to make money. I think we will find that exceptional managers will rise to the top and that school environments will reflect their individual visions as opposed to a regimented, cookie cutter state model. We may end up with the Steve Jobs as principals instead of stressed out control feaks who are too scared to try anything novel.
James
February 1st, 2013
1:47 pm
In teacher evaluations I am most concerned about comparing apples with oranges. In our volatile economy students (along with parent’s jobs) are very mobile. What happens when a teacher gets three “problem” students in his/her class from a transfer? What happens when 10 discipline students from the alternative school return to regular school and 5 of them land in one teacher’s class? That teacher’s classroom test scores certainly can’t equal her peers. And what about the alternative teacher. Students are sent to alternative school because of discipline problems. Often times teachers in the regular classroom cannot adequately with these students in the room. How can an an alternative teacher be held to the same teacher evaluation standards?
William Casey
February 1st, 2013
1:50 pm
MOUNTAIN MAN @11:37 nailed what should be evaluated: subject matter knowledge and ability to deliver instruction.
Here’s how to do it at the high school level. Get administrators out of the evaluation business. They are managers and can’t possibly have the subject matter knowledge necessary to do a good job. Evaluations should be done by an outside agency to prevent bias. Evaluators could be retired teachers. Evaluations should be based on at least 10 observations and several conferences. Evaluations would be required every third or fourth year. This might actually improve education. I think that quite a few retired teachers would do this for their normal teacher rate of pay. Of course, you would have to train them as evaluators.
woodrow
February 1st, 2013
2:01 pm
The problem here is clear to me. A federal program places contingencies on education funding. This is more an issue of federal control than it is education.
There is no such thing as tenure in Ga.
February 1st, 2013
2:20 pm
Can we please understand this point; a. teachers are not given “tenure” we are not guaranteed a job, we sign one year contracts. What we are afforded after we sign the 4th contract is a fair dismissal hearing. Teachers can be fired for cause, if the administration is strong enough to document and actually follow through with the firing.
Dr. Shaquitta Jackson-Lee King
February 1st, 2013
2:34 pm
Perhaps we should revisit the teaching of Ebonics in our inner-city schools as a way to bridge the gap between urbanization and Mother Afrika for our troubled youth. I’m sure Congressman John Lewis could procure stimulus money from the Obama administration for such a worthy project.
Maude
February 1st, 2013
2:57 pm
I am a teacher and my students were to be tested at the beginning of the year and then again at the end of the year to measure the growth for my evaluation. However, the beginning of the year test was given in December. Will I still be responsible for a full years growth at the end of the year or will they look for the 4 1/2 months growth left after the first test?
d
February 1st, 2013
3:37 pm
@Maude – at least it is a test over the same material – I have to show growth between two completely unrelated subjects. How is that fair?
jus'livin in da 'hood
February 1st, 2013
4:36 pm
if y’all so smart why yo so dis’respected an underpayed?
Georgia gets new pressure to start teacher evaluations «
February 1st, 2013
5:20 pm
[...] Read more about the federal report on the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Get Schooled blog here. [...]
atlmom
February 1st, 2013
5:28 pm
another program, hailed by those at the top, that well, is designed by people who have no idea what they are doing.
I mean, seriously, in my kid’s classrooms, they are implementing yet another math program because it’s ‘better’ than the last one. and they do that every few years. it only confuses the kids MORE. I think it’s more telling for math, but really – each kid learns math differently, so when you implement yet ANOTHER program, some will do okay, some will excel, and still some will do awful. While some kids will learn something like math no matter what – all kids can be put into any of those categories, depending on how it’s taught. and the kids don’t know how they learn ‘best.’
How long will this be out before we see how much money we’ve wasted on administration that could have actually gone to education? or Gd forbid – not be spent at all because it’s a waste of time and money?
NTLB
February 1st, 2013
6:46 pm
Dear Feds,
The administrators and teachers in Georgia do not understand the whats and hows of this senseless teacher evaluation system.
Sincerely,
A “Proficient” Teacher
Mikey D.
February 1st, 2013
7:11 pm
It still baffles me that Georgia ever signed on to this ridiculous boondoggle anyway. (Good ol’ Sonny’s outstanding educational “leadership” in action!) For a relatively tiny amount of money, our state chose to cede total control to the feds, and now you have an ignorant beaurocrat like Duncan calling all the shots. We should tell Duncan and Obama where they can stick their bribe money, but of course we won’t. That’d make too much sense and that goes against our southern values. BTW, I thought republicans were against the overstepping of federal authority. I guess Sonny was absent when they taught that lesson at conservative school??
ChristieS
February 1st, 2013
8:22 pm
@DC “Baffling how anyone would think that a teacher is not responsible for a students actual performance. Only in the academic world…wow.
I think coaches should take that same tactic. “the score doesn’t matter, I should just be evaluated on how well I know the sport, and how good I am at talking to the players”……hilarious, and idiotic, all rolled up into one.”
Well DC, as soon as my students have to try out for my class, I’ll be happy to be held accountable for their learning. I should only be held accountable for my TEACHING. Learning is an ACTIVE process, not a passive one. It requires a great deal of effort on the part of the student. I cannot pop the top of their heads up and dump in knowledge. The teacher is only half of the equation in a classroom.
Lloyd
February 1st, 2013
11:10 pm
The new teacher/leader evaluation system is intended to be fair and to allow for growth over time for teachers and administrators with the new expectations. I can speak from experience that it does take a lot of time and effort with the new work but the only way anyone gets better is to receive fair and honest feedback. The student achievement piece of the evaluation is very important as we try to move all students to college and career readiness. Without checking for results, most will not move. All of this is new and many teachers and administrators are struggling with the expectation but given the time and support we will have better teachers and leaders. The results will be better educated students who have a chance to do the things they want with their life.
Without education, the students do not have a chance and the real losers after the students will be the respective counties and the State of Georgia. Parents need to get in their school, support their students and demand that school do what is necessary for their students. While in the school, support the teachers and administrators because we all want the same thing for the students of Georgia
Lance
February 1st, 2013
11:23 pm
You teachers brought this on because you decided to vote for that fat do-nothing Sonny Perdue and his kiddie-corp policy advisors because you thought Roy Barnes had disrespected you. Maybe so, but teachers keep taking a beatingnow…pay, class size, furloughs….each day of Perdue and now onto Deal. You asked for it…you got it!
Retired recently
February 1st, 2013
11:38 pm
This is exactly why I retired last year after 32 years of teaching! If the powers that be would just let a teacher teach, instead of continuously adding to the paperwork teachers and students would be much better off! In the past 10 years or so, the curriculum has been micromanaged to the point that a professional teacher is not given the right to make decisions based on the students she is assigned as to when and how to teach a given objective. Those who make the rules are too quick to jump on every new bandwagon that comes along and that only hurts our students and our teachers.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
4:37 am
Starting to wonder if it is a good idea to flee Georgia altogether. So much poverty here and hillbilly poverty-enforcing predatory government. If there’s a bad idea in Georgia, someone in government will make it triplicate and get paid for it. The weird part is the whole vacantness from the political class on the responsibility to produce as opposed to stealing. Georgia contains major dishonesty and screwy fake justification reasoning from government at every level (?). The citizens act like dumb passive peasants and the make-work governing people are like thieves on the loose, but they’re not intelligent enough to realise the priority of producing value, not just forcing people to be busy.
Burnt out...
February 2nd, 2013
8:35 am
“It starts at home and most AMERICAN parents are not doing what needs to be done before their children ever get to school…YES YES YES
Education is not what it once was..take a look at society. A comment from the LA riots many years ago comes to mind, “Look what we are doing to ourselves.” Society does not value education nor does it respect teachers.
Many of us (yes, I am a teacher) are told that the parents are our “customers”. Meaning keep the parents happy…doesn’t matter if Little Johnny can’t read, write, do basic math, has behavior issues just -keep the parents happy. Glorified babysitters, yep that is how we are viewed. Am I burnt out, yep, can I leave just yet…nope. I have too much time in education to change so I left the classroom and took a different position which was a 50% pay cut. I’m doing whatever I can just to make it one more year. It is sad…you start out hoping to make a difference and you end up babysitting.
Mikey D.
February 2nd, 2013
10:13 am
@Burnt out:
I agree. I’ve never been able to buy into the whole “keep the customer happy” argument. I’ve always had the idea that honesty was the better option. A few years ago I had a parent who registered one complaint after another with my administrator because she said I was too negative and told her too many things that her child dind’t know. Finally, in a conference, I explained to her that if she took her child to the doctor and that doctor diagnosed a problem, she would want to know what the problem was and what could be done about it. She would be angry if the doctor lied to her and told her that everything was fine, just because that’s what she wanted to hear. I explained that she was wanting me to do just that, and that I couldn’t lie to her just to make her feel better. Things got a little better after that, but she never really warmed up completely (even though I devoted about 3 times as much energy and effort to her child that year than anyone else in the class).
Dr. Monica Henson
February 2nd, 2013
11:03 am
Rick L posted, “Teacher evaluation panels should consist of a principal, a parent and an outside expert approved by both parents and the district, and there should be extensive use of video in the process so that termination (or bonus) decisions can be documented.”
The use of videotaping can be tremendously helpful in teacher development. However, bringing in a parent “evaluator” would violate FERPA law. This recommendation is an example of why parents who think they know how to run a school better than those who are educated and trained to do so really don’t know what they’re talking about.
There is certainly a place for parent input, in the form of a survey. Authorizing parents to approve “outside experts” is ridiculous on its face. If a parent isn’t himself or herself a school administrator, holding graduate degrees and several years’ experience plus knowledge of the research base, what on earth qualifies that person to “approve an outside expert”? Concomitantly, to suggest that a parent should be brought in as a panelist to evaluate professional practice is quite simply one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen posted on this blog. And that’s saying a mouthful.
Many public schools are broken, and there certainly are some incompetent administrators running them even further into the ground. But that doesn’t qualify parents to take over the process and begin directing it themselves. Good grief.
Dr. Monica Henson
February 2nd, 2013
11:18 am
cris posted, “Administration is drowning just trying to keep up with the number of evaluations and the online TKES site is quite possibly the most user-unfriendly I have ever come across.”
If administration in your school is “drowning” keeping up with the minimal number of evaluations in TKES (which, by the way, mirrors best practices documented in the research base on teacher supervision and evaluation, going back for decades), then they need to reconfigure their time management strategies. TKES is not an oppressive system if administration has been conducting evaluation all along the way it should be done, which is a series of classroom observations throughout the school year.
The online platform IS user-friendly and quite intuitive, in fact. Those who scream and yell about the platform are simply engaging in knee-jerk resistance to change.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
11:20 am
Teachers treating children / parents as “customers” is a perversion. When it is official doctrine, maybe better to avoid.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
“Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that deviate from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal.”
“1. To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt. 2. To bring to a bad or worse condition; debase.”
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
11:33 am
Dr. Henson, I see your point, but I also see so much official attention, if not resources, given to evaluations, while other areas of importance such as curriculum supplies-materials appear to be completely ignored by big power. One may ask, “At the end of the day, what have we done?” There has to be some type of term or idea-history for focusing on worker-evaluations in an environment that is difficult for workers, and showing no interest in the tools to make for quality work environment and worker efficiency. This is not what you are doing, but I think it is what big power is doing. I’ve attended a district level academic subject meeting with dept. heads from several schools and we all sat around a table with the leader person who did not belong and had just bumped-off the real academic leader, and literally all of the school dept. heads had sad puppy-dog faces like out of a horror movie and several of them flatly said, “Where are the materials? What are we supposed to do?” The newly hired assistant of the new director said, in effect, “Go steal stuff from the internet from other school systems who have posted materials.”
So the message is: “Teach from the internet. Locate your own supply materials.”
Speaking from experience, this is highly inefficient and is time consuming. In this type environment, who would want to “get on board” with the evaluation emphasis from big power? It is understandable that there may be a lack of enthusiasm. It brings to mind the term “lying by omission” when it becomes a “focus” requirement for school management and employee meetings.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
11:34 am
If anyone has an answer for this, I’m interested: “Where are the materials? What are we supposed to do?”
Georgia Coach
February 2nd, 2013
12:06 pm
@William Casey, You come across as a reasonable individual, and I don’t doubt that you were a good teacher;however your assertion that no administrator is qualified to evaluate you is utter and complete hogwash.
Some administrators spent many years in the classroom and have kept up with pedagogy.
Please abandon this lame contention.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
1:44 pm
GC, Some administrators spent many years in the classroom and have kept up with pedagogy.
The last principal I’ve seen who is like what you describe got totally subverted by the state and the school was called out and penalised for high performance and, like all schools, told to lessen addressing errant student behavior. Sounds weird. As a teacher who delivered good results, I was certainly blind-sided by it. It is kind of standing on an ice shelf doing your work and just about the time things get momentum and are going well, due it large part to the organization and work of the type principal you describe – experienced teacher turned into capable school director / manager, the ice shelf starts splitting and you realise you are going into the icy waters. There is no question for me that some unnamed forces within the state, who are probably redelivering an instruction from the fed, can and do meddle in the productivity of local schools. -Would make a good essay – How productive principals can be subverted by official state-level intrusion and meddling.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
1:49 pm
And shortly thereafter, they tore the whole school apart, re-assigned the school to a new themed initiative, and told the faculty to reapply for their jobs. I’m glad I got out when I did, when the ice shelf split, but before the earthquake.
And the school building is like an old horse, a dumpy building with a bad foundation and moisture problems and broken worn out door locks. Only place I ever worked where I would go home and clean the mould out of my ears with a Q-tip.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
1:58 pm
At least in Japan they have warning sirens for when the tsunami is coming. Georgia teacher, better keep your eyes open and know when to run for the hills on your own. When you look back on your tax return you may ask, “I did how much work for what?”
Meanwhile, the kids are stranded in hype and propaganda and the remaining teachers are themed and re-trained, and re-conceptualised, and the experienced ones are discarded to be replaced with 20-something new hires who will sit through and agree with anything because they arrive at the door of their new job with a sense of trust, oh do not each of us so clearly recall.
Truth in Moderation
February 2nd, 2013
2:00 pm
Parents, you can stop these Federal thieves. Let’s not forget that they just awarded the MOST CORRUPT STATES IN THE UNION, New Jersey and New york, $50 BILLION! because their mansions on JERSEY SHORE, and their TRILLION DOLLAR Wall Street businesses got some Hurricane Sandy water damage. THIS MONEY IS NOT A LOAN! Let’s not forget that the former Goldman CEO, U.S. Senator, and New Jersey Governor, Jon Corzine, got off SCOTT FREE from the MF Global scandal, thanks to the friendly Feds. Pull your children from this corrupt system and home school or send them to private school. THROW OFF THE SERF’S COLLAR. Ignore their idle threats. Tell them to get new jobs…..pounding sand.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
2:39 pm
Litmus Test: If Arne Duncan stubbed his toe, would you feel a pang of compassion?
KIM
February 2nd, 2013
5:02 pm
RT3 built in a rediciulous goal of having a new teach / principal eval ready for roll out in three years. If the goal is to truly have an effective way to measure teacher / princ effectiveness AND fill our classrooms with highly competent and effective teachers and leaders, then the time table should have been eliminated from the begiinning…It is artificial and based on no reserach. Work on the evals until they are solid. Additionally, people outside ed. do not understand the time it takes to get a legally defensable document.
KIM
February 2nd, 2013
5:10 pm
@Dr. Monica Henson, you clearly have no idea how much time the evaluations, done according to guidlines, take. In a traditional public school each admin has about 30-40 people to evaluate. With several evals and the necessary conversations that result, it IS NOT a time management issue, and on behalf of the high performing principals I have worked with, I resent your stating that unqualified opinion. You do not work in a traditional school. You have no idea how much time the principals and assistant principals put into doing thorough evaluations of their staff. How you can talk about “management” when our principals are instructional leaders and take their responsibilities seriously is beyond me. An apology to all the professionals leading schools is in order.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
5:23 pm
KIM, Ugh, you sound so happy.
Time for vacation to Paris, where the workers are not expected to treat customers as special, “understood by many French service staff to mean that they should never be friendly to a customer lest that be fatally misinterpreted as submission.” http://http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/7908a22e-65be-11e2-a3db-00144feab49a.htmlhttp://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/7908a22e-65be-11e2-a3db-00144feab49a.html
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
6:38 pm
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/7908a22e-65be-11e2-a3db-00144feab49a.html
Ed Johnson
February 2nd, 2013
6:51 pm
“In two-year Race to the Top update, feds express serious concerns with Georgia’s lack of progress on teacher evaluations”
Sounds like good news to me.
Pathfinder
February 2nd, 2013
8:03 pm
@Georgia Coach – Thanks for your comments. I’m an administrator that spent many years as both a special education teacher and later as a social studies teacher and AP World History teacher for years before I went into administration. I was a great teacher and know how to use the TKES system. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but better that the old STEP Evaluation System. For those of you that have incompetent administrators, I’m sorry. In my school, my principal assigns administrators to the departments in which they have experience with the curriculum, so we go into the observations with the requisite background. Maybe those that are stressing the new evaluation system are those teachers everyone is complaining about. You know the ones that are just coasting along with tenure.
Pride and Joy
February 2nd, 2013
9:09 pm
To No Such Thing as Tenure…
You make me laugh…
There doesn’t need to be tenure in Georgia. No teacher ever gets fired unless they are caught on camera having sex with a student.
Teachers have a job for life in Georgia. Don’t get all ruffled up over someone’s misuse of the word “tenure” in GA.
Pride and Joy
February 2nd, 2013
9:14 pm
Private Citizen, I have your answer.
The materials you say you’re missing and you need are supposed to be IN YOUR HEAD. That is what an education is.
You shouldn’t even NEED a text book to teach. You should already know your material and you should know how to teach it and when you don’t…well, it perfectly explains why you are a private citizen and no longer in teaching.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
9:22 pm
Pathfinder, I object. In my last school, there was not a teacher in that building was not both competent and working their butt off (pardon me). I keep seeing reference to “the bad teacher” and maybe they’re somewhere but what I have seen are excessive meetings and initiatives and re-theming and re-shuffling and very few bad teachers, in fact I can not name a one. I don’t buy the lemonade you’re selling and (a jab) enjoy your nice $100k salary while you are using your charges as an object of put down. If this is your idea of managing talent, it sure is not mine.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
9:30 pm
Pathfinder, Maybe where I worked anyone who was “coasting on tenure” got ground up and disposed of. I simply have not seen it. I have seen a lot of administrators… I wouldn’t call it coasting. They’re certainly attentive, to something… mainly following outside numerous directives that they then come back and play house with “very serious” with the staff. I have often said I wouldn’t want to be carrying all of those pails of water the admin. is required to carry back to the school house.
Plenty of school systems well know how to grind up and discard anyone they choose. And similarly elevate and care for anyone they choose. Call it politics. Georgia is the very Horn of Plenty for this stuff. If you want to use “bad teacher” for a prop, hey, I guess that’s your business, free speech and all of that. Yeah, where I worked, the most glowing work review I ever saw was when a colleague of mine designed a full week of lesson plans around “character training” embedded with the content material. If this does not sound an alarm for you, you are very very ignorant of world politics and what occurs in dictatorships and communism.
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
9:43 pm
Pathfinder is EXACTLY the kind of boss I do not want to get within 100 miles of. We’ve got different brainwave rhythms, different blood types, and I am certain different salaries, and likely different formation although Pathfinder, named after a Nissan motor vehicle and using the “seeking answers” motif while getting paid double and chopping their peers that conveniently they have bounded to the fore to “supervise” in the money-based caste system. “Pathfinder,” what you have done is successfully jumped caste, which seems to be your aim. When you think of “peer” it is the fellow managers and no longer the teachers, which you “formerly” did. Anyway, do you even know the word “formation” in context? You probably one of those administrators that when I clearly state, “I am here to build a student’s formation” you get all edgy and it’s all downhill and to hell for me from there wherever you are concerned, which turns out to be everywhere since your profession is now hob-nobbing with the other playahs who run things, when all you eggs hunker down together in the picnic basket, Oh yes, oh yeah. See your game from a thousand miles off. You’re like the Sears Tower. (this is an expression of feeling, I do not know you, but I feeel that I know of you)
Private Citizen
February 2nd, 2013
9:53 pm
Pride and Joy, A purely practical question then, how do you occupy 120 students for 5 days a week with what is “in your head?” I don’t want to sound callous, but in my own formation as a student, I had my own books for every class.
And seriously, if this is your concept of responsibility to the young people, maybe I need to move to Oregon, as if that was far enough. I didn’t come here to parry, but it does kind of turn my stomach, the modern age’s idea of what is a serving of goodness to the youth. As a student/kid, I had it better in public school in Georgia and I am willing to state it plainly.
Truth in Moderation
February 2nd, 2013
9:58 pm
The Federal thieves are at it again, and (surprise) NEW JERSEY is in the SLIMELIGHT!
“A cloud of scandalous allegations is rapidly growing over Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), putting Democratic leaders in a difficult position as the integrity of their immigration point man in the Senate falls under question at a critical time.
The bad news keeps coming: a Senate Ethics probe, allegations involving underage prostitutes, an FBI investigation of a key campaign donor, undisclosed flights on the donor’s private plane, and now, reports linking Menendez to an existing multi-million dollar contract he urged officials to enforce for the disgraced donor.”
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/280691-menendez-scandal-creates-headache-for-dems#ixzz2JngSSO67
DON’T FORGET, $50 BILLION in YOUR tax dollars went towards “bailing out” the sea water from this corrupt state. The FEDS want to use YOUR tax dollars to make teachers PUBLIC SCHOOL SERFS.
Parents, send Arne a message: home school your children. DEFUND THE CORRUPTOCRATS!
Dr. Monica Henson
February 3rd, 2013
1:02 am
KIM, my dear, I have in fact worked far more years in district schools than in charter schools. I have been an administrator in district schools with anywhere from 30 to 100 teachers, never with more than one principal and two assistant principals, along with a few department chairs who held administrative credentials, to share the workload. I did my doctoral research and dissertation on teacher supervision & evaluation while I was a full-time public school administrator.
I think I know just a little bit whereof I speak.
Pathfinder
February 3rd, 2013
8:52 am
@Private Citizen. You are right, you don’t know me or the staff in my building. I make no where near 100k a year. In fact, about 5 years ago, my contract was cut by 20 days. That being said, your personal attack tends to indicate to me that you were one of those teachers that lectured for 55 minutes, 5 period a day and if the students failed, “It was their fault”. Enjoy your retirement. I’m sure your students, parents, and administration wish you the best.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
10:18 am
Pathfinder, your tackiness and projections exceed your charm. I perform in likely the top 5%, the rest of it you mention can simply go to hell. Enjoy your politics. You’ve got it down. I’m glad you’re listening and good luck to you. And here’s hoping you produce lots of engineers, doctors, and dentists.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
10:35 am
And as far as failing students, I’ve probably done more accommodations, pass alongs, and repeated parent counselling meetings than the waitress at IHOP has arms and coffee cups. I think I’ve failed two kids ever. One was a team decision because the child simply refused to do their work in every single class even after we had five heart felt encourage / guilt / threaten / you name it / refer for counseling, for some reason this bright kid was about three years behind in psychological maturity. Anyway, it was a team decision. I probably would have “arranged” (fabricated) a passing grade, but the other core teachers had REALLY had enough of this yahoo. It was probably due to that mom had not ever disciplined the angel once for anything. The other kid I FAILED and sent on his way for a 55, similar situation except he was mature, maybe too mature. He missed half the class days and when he was there completely refused to do anything. I did not pass this student, if I had it to over, I probably would have. However, he was transferring out of the school and and the parent wanted a free grade and I looked at the situation and it was just so dishonest that I wouldn’t do it. I can only imagine the “free pass” mentality that may be a part of the rest of their lives. They were really nice people, too. I’m sure you’ve met plenty of charming people in the parking lot of the grocery asking if you’ve got a spare dollar because they “just got out of the hospital and need to buy their medicine.” Maybe I was trying to head off a future life of similar activity, of assuming that is how the world works, the great buffet. Fun, isn’t it? 55 minutes lecturing? I don’t think I’ve ever “lectured” a single class I’ve taught ever, at least in K-12. One of the reason I’m a little ruffly rooster is you should have some basic respect for the people who put in the 80 hour weeks for months on end. Maybe you just do not work where high achievement happens. In current circumstance, it does not happen by itself, the tools are too sparse. If you want to serve your teachers, well it is too big for you to address. I was going to say, “try and make sure they have materials to teach with.” But that is not your gig, to provide books and computer software. It appears to be no one’s job. It’s not happening. It’s not coordinated. A little here. A little there. Rich school, yes. Poor school, no. It’s a mess. How many hours have you spent with a Sharpie striking through the exciting profanity graffiti on your remaining textbooks? How many rolls of binding tape have you purchased, I wonder? But I’m just talking. After all, it is the hour to “share.” Point is, if I am doing all of that, too, a little respect maybe? A little less projection? Even seen a teacher use personal money to buy ALL of the tables and chairs in their classroom? I have, and only bought some of them to replace the ones with sharp edges from broken off metal. Acquisition order? The reply would be “ha ha. Who does this person thing they are?” Better buy a file and flip the desk over and put some elbow into it.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
11:32 am
Maybe one of the best kid tricks is to write in the textbook in the margin in pen, “Go to page 81″ then on page 81, “Go to page 121″ on and on. ha And the kid who would leap like a Mongoose from his seat and cut the telephone line with scissors. Makes sense, telephone is used to call mom. Except he didn’t have a mom, he had been passed around eight times between family members and currently lived with some community member with a big heart who cared for kids, while not legally adopting any of them. He did it twenty times. Same kid would h-e-a-v-e a textbook into the air to ceiling level to see it crash to the floor, hopefully? breaking the spine on the book (what was left of the classroom set). And he was a nice kid, but highly deranged, disconnected. Like the phone. This was from before the “Air Force One” (same phone) voice over IP phones in use now that connect with a Cat5 computer cable and all of the calls are logged/stored on a server. Call your dentist from work? The call is stored on a server, just like looking at the your time punch-in from the ID based time clock machine.
KIM
February 3rd, 2013
12:12 pm
@Dr. Monica Henson, You are not working in public schools at this time–rather you are associated with a charter organization. You do not know what you are talking about. Only current principals know what the issue is with the new eval system.
KIM
February 3rd, 2013
12:13 pm
Oh, and your doctoral reserch was done for what institution???
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
1:24 pm
Kim, You’re being kind of tacky. I think Dr. Henson is from Massachusetts, you know, the place where they have 300 colleges and universities in Boston (?). In other words, I think she got her schooling before the abbreviated study online for-profit mail-order Caribbean Tobago leadership degree credentialing became an accepted norm for many, particularly here in the South where, according the mayor of Atlanta, a $17./ton load of gravel during an ice storm is billed at $1000.
In a way, though, you make a good point. In a perfect world, it would be ideal to have access online to read anyone’s thesis (master’s degree) or dissertation (doctorate/phd), but I can tell when I got my master’s degree from a Georgia brick and mortar university part of the state system, there was no thesis required, but I recall some days when my hands were numb from required clapping in class to “celebrate the idea” from the professor who also told us how we were receiving a “world class education.” Hey, I should have gone to the carnival instead. The price is cheaper and it is more real. A brick and mortar Georgia government university doctorate/phd requires a dissertation as long as you do not mind handing over your soul in the process, as I know at least two people who were completely directed away from their area of interest and both of them, unrelated to each other, each wrote their 300 pages on some hockum from the department chief. In other words, they were 100% denied developing their own ideas. I even know a fellow who at a private university practically had to go to war with his department head in order to do his work in the area of his choosing. He is one of the few who stood up to it and is doing well today, but this is in the hard sciences, not in “education.” Pssst. Seen any of those “Phoenix” billboards lining the highway?
You know, in Georgia, there are superintendents with for-profit distance learning degrees as their terminal degree.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
1:50 pm
hey Kim, if I recall some bio information from the good Dr. Henson, this person worked in Georgia long ago and got some of that “it doesn’t matter what you do, you do it this way” treatment, left the state for a good long time to work in a more real environment, and has returned to do some good work. In my opinion, this person seems pretty real, which is why I speak up. I also like the fact that someone is providing some resources for kids out of grade level, because I can tell you it is not cool to have several students three years out of grade level parked in the general ed. classroom. These students do not belong there next to the dewey eyed kids who are where they are rightfully supposed to be, and these out of age students also are not having their needs met. It is a humiliating displaced situation for them and I practically got my head removed from my shoulders for being the only person in a school building will to mention this as an issued, as in “Hey! What’s the deal with so many out of age kids in the general ed. classroom?” I had one student, three years out of grade level, mom said she could not do anything with them, this students paced the back of the classroom and burbled rapper lyrics all the day long and flirted and obstructed other students as a full time job and basically, there was absolutely nothing I could do about. They had “the power” in the classroom more than me, the teacher, and I basically had to teach around them and their doings. It was a highly obstructed situation. And then the state is telling us to back it off with behavior reprimand and there is nowhere to send this type student, as they have just shut down the alternative schools. Get the out of age kids out of the general ed. classroom!!!!!
And to my top management and admin, well pardon me if I do not flatter you without ceasing and apologise otherwise, oh my dear Royal Masters.
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Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
1:58 pm
I really shouldn’t be talking about other people, but that out-of-age student thing is just heinous. They’re got 21 year olds in high school, too. Or something pretty close, as I recall. Usually most of the out of age students quit attending school the minute they are legally of age and not required to be physically required to get their corpus to the school house. …So much going on that is not talked about.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
2:07 pm
“the idea of a high school day care may still astound some. “For the average person, it may be shocking to see a girl come to school with a baby,” Roesser said. “But it’s different when you see it in action.” http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100221/NEWS0103/302190019/High-schools-offer-day-care-young-moms
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
2:08 pm
If you timed it right, Race to the Top could have mother, father, and child all filling out evaluations of their teachers.
Private Citizen
February 3rd, 2013
2:25 pm
Some urban students extended stay in high school: Good place to get free pizza and sell dope. Seen at least one high school student with more cash in a roll than I had in my bank account and they told me so, and I said, “You’re right!”
As long as street drugs are contraband, urban teenagers will have pocketful of cash delivering them in a “protected marketplace” with no official competition. Well, except for in Colorado and Washington state.
KIM
February 3rd, 2013
3:01 pm
I think the answer is eliminate the fed DOE…that comment from an earlier blogger may be right on the money. If I could wave a magic wand, I would lead a school full of energized teachers who had proven they knew the content and could inspire students. Then I would leave them alone to teach the approved curriculum. Students would take a criterion referenced test once a year. That would be IT. I would provide the resources teachers needed to support their creativity and I would encourage field trips. Let’s see, and on in my magic, I would … pay teachers what they are worth.
Dr. Monica Henson
February 3rd, 2013
10:33 pm
KIM posted, “You are not working in public schools at this time–rather you are associated with a charter organization. You do not know what you are talking about. Only current principals know what the issue is with the new eval system.”
I am both a “current” superintendent AND principal, KIM. I am a Georgia public school employee working in a statewide public single-school district authorized directly by the State Board of Education. Member of the Teachers Retirement System of Georgia since 1985. My charter school/district is a member of the pilot cohort of TKES/LKES, and I am credentialed to evaluate both teachers and administrators in Georgia. I am actively evaluating both this year.
I began my teaching career in Georgia, and spent several years in Massachusetts and Connecticut, where I moved into administration (all in district public schools). After returning to the Southeast, I worked in North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and now Georgia again, in district and charter public schools. I’ve been evaluating teachers and administrators since 2002.
“Oh, and your doctoral reserch was done for what institution???”
My master’s degree in school administration was completed at Seton Hall University, a private, Roman Catholic institution in New Jersey. Schools of education, law, business, & nursing. NCAA Division I sports program, pretty decent men’s basketball team.
My research and dissertation were completed in my terminal degree program in educational leadership at Nova Southeastern University, a private, nonprofit, Tier 1 research university in south Florida. SACS-accredited, Carnegie-recognized. Schools of medicine, law, business, pharmacy, educational leadership, dentistry, nursing, on and on. NCAA Division II sports teams. Not the for-profit diploma mills I’m sure you were hoping for. I actually attended the universities in person.
Let’s leave it to the readers of the blog to determine who knows what they are talking about.
John
February 4th, 2013
10:53 am
Hi Maureen, Very interesting and very well done post. Quick question, does anyone if the Title 1 funding has been frozen in Georgia?
Ole Guy
February 4th, 2013
5:38 pm
Just let us teach…you’ve all seen my admonitions before; you’re gonna see em again. STOP SNIVELING AND ORGANIZE YOURSELVES. If you’re afraid you’re gonna piss somebody off…too damn bad.
Every time I read your type of comment, I picture (probably not too inaccurately) scared rabbits huddled in a corner waiting for the big bad wolf administrator to go away. Pull yourselves together; put a stop to this crap, and start developing some professional spheroids. Every time I read the mantra “it’s for the children”, what you are really doing is hiding behind that mantra as a shield against (heavens) incrimination from the big bad wolf.
MAN-UP (or lady-up, as the case may be); assume a little voice; maybe even a little control over your profession.
KIM
February 4th, 2013
9:32 pm
Folks, look it all up…
james
February 5th, 2013
1:47 pm
you guys don’t get it the whole idea of the local school boards is the continuation of confusion, the poor students are more important than the high achievers because in order to qualify for the knucklehead…..ooops i mean race to the top grant money from the federal government the bad, disinterested, poorly motivated, and project kids are necessary to offset the high achievers test scores in order to be eligible for the federal money….
KIM
February 5th, 2013
8:03 pm
@James, you may be right. What I know is RT3 lacks in planning that affects all students. Focus is on new evals (much needed), accountability (much needed), and on having successful districts share their tools and knowledge with smaller distrcts that cannot provide the services/support to their teachers and admins that the larger districts can. All that is noble. BUT it is a false noble when time restraints keep the likelihood of a quality and valid instrument at farther-than-arms length. My concern is that something is being put together that has huge time implications and principals, who are working their rears off to be instructional leaders, are once again expending time figuring out how to do that while managing the new eval. Schools with 1500-3500 students have enormous staffs and doing the eval justice as it is designed now is strangling. So, once again, the focus of interventions will be on the emergency situations: low ses kids and their achievement. They deserve the attention but so do the higher income students. Actually, I detest referring to the ses at all. I prefer to say: release our leaders to lead all. Period. Encouraging more teacher leaders and admins in the classrooms to identify and then tap the highly talented teachers will turn any school around, It will bring back the high energy and synergistic effect. Schools are almost forced to play the game with the feds because education is so costly. Maintaining infrastructure and providing current staff development to support innovative integration of technology in the classroom is hammering on districts…and in a time of a relatively eroding tax base.