DeKalb teacher: If you want good teachers to stay in your school, please let them know

Mike Ritter/AJC

Mike Ritter/AJC

A DeKalb teacher sent me this note, which I thought was worth sharing here:

I am an occasional commenter on your blog “Get Schooled,” but a frequent reader. Many, many parents and teachers I know follow it as well. Since I teach in DeKalb, you realize how I cannot use my real name…I sure wish that could change. I’m counting down the number of teaching days I have left until I can escape. The decline in morale is crushing and this has been a crushing week. I’m not sure how you select what letters you print, but I wrote this up after waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to sleep.

There is a lot of griping and hand wringing by parents and teachers alike on this blog, as well as an ample supply of teacher bashing. However, the suggestions of constructive positive actions to be taken are few and far between. It’s no secret that teacher morale is low and, in DeKalb, keeps getting lower with every news cycle.

If there was a way to impact the work environment where your children go to school, for your kids’ teachers, would you be on board?

Teacher appreciation week is in May, but teachers can sure use a boost at other times, like now. Many teachers have a file for special notes from parents or students, and they keep it for those days where it’s so bad they just want to throw in the towel. They can go to that folder and read some notes and recall memories that remind them that yes, they are making a difference. I have such a file in my middle school file cabinet, and I sure wish it were thicker!

The small act of reading these notes feeds me, energizes me, and keeps me going. The energy may not last, but it carries me through the moment, and many of us could use to be energized right now.

Yes, Valentines Day is coming, and we will get all kids of chocolates….thank you, but half of us are on diets…save your money and do something infinitely better.

At any job, when you really bust it to get the job done, sacrifice family time, and finish with flying colors, wouldn’t you want to be acknowledged? Trust me – teachers don’t get “attaboys”  in the year end review when everyone gets the same “satisfactory” or “adequate” review. When was the last time you wrote a note to let a teacher know what they meant in your child’s life, college, or career?

Did the school year end, and you thought about that teacher again? Are there teachers you really hope keep teaching in your school, so that the younger siblings can be in their class?

If your kid has ever had a memorable teacher or an outstanding year in school, even if it was five years ago, pick up a pen and write it. (Email will do, too, but real paper notes are so unexpected, so shocking, so personal.) We do remember your child. Next week (in DeKalb) is the deadline for teachers to submit paperwork asking to transfer schools. Your note might make the difference between a signed contract and walking away.

–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog

97 comments Add your comment

indigo

January 26th, 2013
9:18 am

Our children are our future.

And yet, school districts like DeKalb seem bent on creating the worst possible environment for teachers.

I wonder why that is?

reality check

January 26th, 2013
9:22 am

Being a teacher has devolved into one of the worst jobs in existence. You have to cope with low pay, long hours and unreasonable demands from administrators and parents and criticism from all directions. I don’t see why anybody would do it. My wife is a special education teacher in Cobb. She is highly qualified and her performance reviews could not be any better. But she deserves a life and can’t really have one being a teacher. After May she is done. I am sure her principle doesn’t have a clue that is going to happen, but frankly she doesn’t seem to have a clue about anything.

Schools have more applicants than positions now, but I believe that is going to change. The work conditions are worse than horrible

English Teacher

January 26th, 2013
9:24 am

“Trust me – teachers don’t get “attaboys” in the year end review when everyone gets the same “satisfactory” or “adequate” review.”

I am sure there will be several commenters who work in the private sector who will say that doesn’t happen for them either (read: quit your whining public school teacher), or will turn it on the writer and say perhaps they don’t deserve the praise, or some variation thereof. While it’s true that many in several different professions don’t receive the praise deserved, these days no one is quite as vilified as the teacher. I still do not understand all the hate and general disrespect, and I don’t expect to. What I hope is that those comments are in the minority and readers of this column recognize there is a real and relevant problem with teacher morale – and the causes of this problem are at the root of our current educational mess. I agree that some teachers come across as whiny – I even roll my eyes at some of the comments – but that does not change the fact that MOST teachers I know and have worked with do exemplary jobs and truly care that all of their students are learning and are cared for. I have seen exceptions to this and if your child has had the unfortunate consquence of being the student of such a teacher, I am sorry, but it does not negate the fact that teachers are impossibly overworked, undervalued, and often treated like children. We are expected to be educated professionals but are rarely treated that way. The mixed message will have devestating consequences on education – heck, it already is.

Proud Teacher

January 26th, 2013
9:44 am

Administrators don’t necessarily want good teachers, they want puppets who turn out decent numbers, not good numbers nor excellent thinkers, but good numbers on the administrators’ score sheets.

I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

January 26th, 2013
9:58 am

This post is quite true. It may sound somewhat self-serving – after all, most people go to work each day and do their job without expecting praise – but I think for teachers, such a small thing can make a big impact. The denigration of our profession over the past few years had made it even more important that we occasionally hear a “job well done” from those we serve. These days, I often have a few parents start the school year already armed with preconceived negative notions about teachers and my job performance. Usually, they are new to the school and have nothing to judge me upon but the fact I am a teacher. For some parents, the first parent-teacher meet and greet has taken on a “gotcha” atmosphere, where I seem placed on the defensive almost immediately. It used to be, parents were very willing to work WITH me as a team to assure the best for their child. Now, too often, the parents seem to see me as an enemy to be conquered and subdued, as though I need to be FORCED to do the best for their child. Thankfully, the numbers are very small, but it is very disheartening to have someone assume the worst about me based solely upon the fact that I am a teacher. Now, not only do I need to do my job well, I need to win them over. Generally, I manage this fairly quickly, but it is still an additional stress I do not need. Nor am I the only teacher who has experienced this shift recently.

So, those small notes of appreciation can make a huge difference – especially on those days where you just feel overwhelmed. I know that parents have been pleased with my abilities. I have heard second hand that I have been spoken well of in the community, and have been mentioned among parents as an excellent teacher. “Singing your praises” has been bantered around a few times. It is always nice to hear such compliments, but it would be really elevating to receive such commendations directly from the parent, perhaps in the form of a letter I could pull out every year as a little pick me up when I am feeling a bit ragged around the edges.

Regardless, I will continue to do my best for my students every day. That is MY personal sacred trust – but I second the letter writer’s request. It YOU as a parent have thought about thanking a teacher for a job well done, go ahead and do so, TODAY – you just might make the difference between their staying in the profession or leaving. Believe me, we certainly hear from parents who are dissatisfied… maybe if we heard more from the ones that were happy, we wouldn’t feel so downtrodden.

Hey Teacher

January 26th, 2013
10:05 am

Amen English Teacher! As the dept chair of my school, morale is my BIGGEST concern. Not teaching the standards. Not discipline. Not class size. Not salary cuts. As a veteran teacher I’ve stopped looking for “attaboys”, but I’m going to give them to my dept so that someone is left to teach my own children when they get to high school. If we keep running off good teachers, there won’t be anyone left, and since no one else is supporting us we have to support each other.

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Southern opinion

January 26th, 2013
10:21 am

Attaboy to all teachers (including myself)!

A Teacher, 2

January 26th, 2013
10:34 am

I am fortunate to have worked for three principals in a row (over 15 years) who go out of their way to thank all the teachers on staff early and often, and in many different ways. Performance reviews always end with a litany of things they have observed us doing that made a difference somewhere. All three principals, and their assistants for that matter, are glass half full people, and it shows. I am also in a community where the parents, and even the students, are not reluctant to speak or write words of thanks on a regular basis. It can be done, and, by the way, I am a high school teacher.

I also take this idea even a step further. Many parents and students are also denigrated by the general public, and even other educators. I try to write notes of appreciation to parents and students who are truly doing a good job. If a student is impecably polite above and beyond the rest of his/her peer group, I will let the parent know that I notice it. I had that happen just yesterday, when I ran into a parent of a former student. Tears formed in her eyes, and she told me about being a single mother who felt like she was swimming up stream all the time, and she was so happy that her son had left an impression on me. I have sent letters of commendation at the end of the school year for those students who worked their butts off all year and may have made a 78, which to them is clearly an “A”, though the 78 goes on the report card. Almost everyone who has received one of these letters is still in touch with me, and they never cease to glowingly tell me about their latest accomplishments. None of this costs anything, yet the effect lasts a lifetime in many cases.

If there are cynics reading this post, let me assure you that I am not into empty praise, either given or received. I wish we could somehow get the cynicism out of any discussions involving education!

Google "NEA" and "union"

January 26th, 2013
10:42 am

Anyone who has spent time as a K-12 teacher knows that the truly effective teachers among us aren’t much prone to the ceaseless griping on display daily in this blog.

They are women and men who are better matches for their chosen occupation.

I’ve always assumed that the whining on Get Schooled is the output of a very small group, working off of some teachers’ union Talking Points memo. Along with, of course, a few unemployables who will eventually tire of seeing their name “in print.”

Schools, like all other organizations, benefit from constant legitimate assessment, change and renewal within a competitive environment. Parental choice will one day add the missing ingredient to make it all possible.

Marla

January 26th, 2013
10:43 am

Welcome to the real world teachers. Out here in world, workers have to be on the clock eight hours, five days per week. Our salaries have been flat or reducing for over a decade.

We have no pensions.

We have no union to turn to.

We do not get paid if we take off two whole months in the summer and spring and fall breaks to be with our kids. We get two lousy weeks vacation.

There are times when hundreds of us at one location are all downsized and our jobs are moved overseas.

Our jobs give even less satisfaction than yours.

We are out here suffering because we applied but were not selected to be a teacher as you did. We are out here standing by to replace you if we get the chance.

I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

January 26th, 2013
10:51 am

Google @”Anyone who has spent time as a K-12 teacher knows that the truly effective teachers among us aren’t much prone to the ceaseless griping on display daily in this blog.”

Yeah. The good ones “know their place,” right? They keep their heads down and their mouths shut, let themselves get kicked in the teeth, and ask for more.

Wonder where I’ve heard that before?

Funny how asking for positive feedback from parents is considered “griping”.

“I’ve always assumed that the whining on Get Schooled is the output of a very small group, working off of some teachers’ union Talking Points memo. ”

Well, you know what they say about those who “assume”… :)

Pride and Joy

January 26th, 2013
11:09 am

The point the author was trying to make is that if you’ve had a good Dekalb teacher, write about it here on this blog.
When any employee/manager does a great job, I tell them but I also do something meaningful — I write a letter to their boss, a hard copy letter, something tangible. It’s difficult to ignore a hard copy letter sent by the US post office. Often those hard copy letters go into the employee’s personnel file and show up at evaluation time.
The author of this post makes a very good point — write a letter to the teacher and ALSO, make a copy for their principal.

Maureen Downey

January 26th, 2013
11:21 am

@Google, Not sure about your contention that talented teachers don’t gripe. The finest journalists I know across the country are also among the least content — they are well aware of the stresses on the industry and vocal in their concerns about how those stresses are being responded to by management. Many movements began with people derided as malcontents and complainers. I have done interviews with celebrated whistle blowers whose revelations changed industry policies and sometimes even saved lives. Yet, their initial complaints were demeaned as the rantings of disgruntled employees by their superiors.
Maureen

Kim

January 26th, 2013
11:31 am

As a retired teacher, my heart breaks when I read this heartfelt letter. I have been in her place although it was a more positive arena. Sadly, the students and their parents from other cultures were far more likely to send positive thoughts and respect than families from local areas. As a society we continue to underappreciate the efforts of our teachers. That and the overload led to my earlier retirement.

Dc

January 26th, 2013
11:38 am

In the business world the better performers make more money. It’s ridiculous that the better teachers don’t get the same financial recognition and reward. We will continue to lose our best teachers until schools figure out how to make this happen. And once they start seeing this payoff, they won’t have to rely quite so much on attaboys to keep going, and maintain good morale

Google "NEA" and "union"

January 26th, 2013
11:44 am

Well, Maureen, journalists are famously out to “change the world.” And my contention is rather that our better teachers—as with productive employees in other industries— don’t gripe to the extent which so many of your regular column contributors do. Or so conveniently follow labor union talking points.

But then, your choice of topics is heavily skewed toward the teachers’ union viewpoint.

Pride and Joy

January 26th, 2013
11:55 am

There are still zero posts here describing a good teacher. Most of the posters here are teachers and most teachers are parents so surely many, if not all of the teachers here on this blog have a wonderful experience with at least one of their children’s teachers.
This blog is filled with complaints from teachers about their working enviornments, so why don’t we do as the author asks and write about some of those great teachers?
No one has to say who they are…just tell about the teacher, which school perhaps, which grade.
I have two teachers that made a wonderful difference in my life and one nurse.
I’ll start here.
My high school English teacher was wonderful to me. She often listened to me and mentored me during her planning period. Occassionally, we would just sit and talk in her office and she would buy me something sweet from the vending machine in the teacher’s lounge. She trusted me and cared about me and I love her dearly. We still keep in touch. It has been more than twenty years.

Maureen Downey

January 26th, 2013
11:56 am

@Google, If you see a teacher’s plea for a few kind words from parents as “the teachers’ union viewpoint,” you have, as my younger colleagues say, “jumped the shark.”
Maureen

AlreadySheared

January 26th, 2013
11:58 am

@Marla,
No pension, pay flat or declining after 10 years, two weeks’ vacation (after 10 years), no job satisfaction….

No offense, but “dissatisfied people stuck for a decade in bad, low-paying, dead-end jobs” is not exactly the cohort that I am hoping my kids’ teachers is drawn from.

Especially if, in light of a topic earlier this week bemoaning low standards for prospective teachers, said people “applied but were not selected to be a teacher”.

Beverly Fraud

January 26th, 2013
11:58 am

“I’ve always assumed that the whining on Get Schooled is the output of a very small group, working off of some teachers’ union Talking Points memo.

Tinfoil hat much?

RCB

January 26th, 2013
12:07 pm

As a skinny, red-headed, freckle-faced, shy 10 year old, my 5th grade teacher was a miracle worker. She didn’t change my hair color (I wanted brown), or add 20 pounds to my skinny body, but she enveloped me with warmth and positive reinforcement. At the time, I felt like she chose “me” to be so kind to, but she was that way with all students. I think of her all the time and wish she were still alive for me to thank her (again). I personally keep in touch with 8 or 9 of my childrens’ former teachers in Colorado. My children were SO fortunate to have had them in their lives.

drew (former teacher)

January 26th, 2013
12:09 pm

I’ve been a “former teacher” for about five years now. I initially planned on getting back into it after a hiatus, but in light of the state of education (and my personal cynicism about it), I have no desire to return.

And I might not get the kudos I’d like to get in the “real world”, but at least I don’t get blamed for things beyond my control. I’ll take the real world over public education any day.

Maria says:
“We are out here suffering because we applied but were not selected to be a teacher as you did. We are out here standing by to replace you if we get the chance.”

So Maria, you’re a wannabe teacher who’s suffering because you were not “selected” to be a teacher? Hang in there girl…you’ve definitely got the whining part down. All you need is a few more competent teachers to leave, and you might get the chance to be part of the solution. Right? Good luck, and be careful what you ask for.

d

January 26th, 2013
12:17 pm

To Maria @10:43….
Whose fault is it that there are no pensions and unions to turn to? Why have we, as a society, allowed big business to reject these things? Why do we say it is ok for companies to profit billions and billions but not give back to those who actually are doing the work? Napoleon said “Soldiers win the battles, but generals get the credit.” We let them get away with it. I am not saying that we need to do away with capitalism, but perhaps we need to see that there can be a balance between profit motive in the corporate world and 1) investing in high quality public education for our youth, and 2) taking care of those who actually earn that profit.

English Teacher

January 26th, 2013
12:31 pm

@Marla: Several teachers (good ones to boot!) are not renewing their contracts at the end of this year. Use an alternative certification program and get on it – if you start now, you can probably start at the beginning of next school year. You must know, however, that most teachers work much longer than an 8 hour day and teachers in GA and most Southern states are not unionized.

Smoke Rise Mom

January 26th, 2013
1:43 pm

Thank you Tucker Middle School team 7-Tigers teachers. I want you to know that we feel blessed to have you teaching our daughter. Middle school is such a challenging time for our kids and I could never manage a classful of drama queens and kings who know more than we do. I don’t know why you do this especially in DeKalb County, but I am so thankful that you do.

Smoke Rise Mom

January 26th, 2013
2:00 pm

Thank you Kittredge Magnet School fourth grade Latitudes teachers. When our boys were accepted into the program last spring, I wasn’t sure it would be worth the pre-dawn journey up 285 every morning, but now I know it was the right thing to do. Our boys don’t have a favorite teacher or subject anymore because each of you are so good at what you do. They truly look forward to school everyday and are aware themselves of how much they are learning. Thank you for all you do despite the difficult environment of our school system.

10:10 am

January 26th, 2013
2:11 pm

As Marla alludes to, there are probably 10 or more qualified applicants out there waiting to take those teaching jobs some on this blog repeatedly (and theatrically) threaten “to leave.”

Legislators could help ensure that turnover of ineffective/chronically dissatisfied K-12 teachers becomes more rapid … and that applicants for those open teaching position then have the opportunity to show what they can do.

And then be recognized by grateful parents.

Rob Mason

January 26th, 2013
2:19 pm

My wife is head of Language Arts at Alcovy HIgh School. She has been a teacher in the Newton County School System for 17 years. I can not say or express how proud I am of her and the job that she does, the pride she takes in bettering herself, the department she heads but most of all, the difference she makes with her students. When we first began dating, we both stated that what gives us joy and makes us successful in our chosen careers is establishing relationships…..showing you care and being transparent. We’ve had many a conversation about the difficulties that a teacher must go through now. The grind of “benchmarks”, the ever changing landscape of teaching, parents who no longer “parent”, and a boat load of other obstacles that attack what a teacher really should or would like to be doing on a daily basis.
Jen is the varsity cheerleader coach for basketball at AHS. She not only wants her girls to cheer for their team, but she teaches them accountability, discipline, and to be young ladies.
She also works an after school program, writes grants for her school and is respected amount her peers.

To those of you who took the time to read this….I thank you. Support your teachers, invest in your school and by all means, tell your kids teachers GREAT JOB AND THANK YOU when it’s deserved. It’s easy to bash but the true depth of a person shows when they express their gratitude for those who serve.
My wife is Jennifer Mason and I am one PROUD and lucky man!! Thank you hon for being the kind, gracious difference maker that you are at your school!!!

frustrated APS mom

January 26th, 2013
3:30 pm

My 12 year old had four amazing teachers at his elementary school (first grade, third grade, fourth grade, and 5th grade Challenge). We took every opportunity to tell them how much we appreciated them and we told the principal, other parents, anyone who would listen. It wasn’t enough. All four of them are gone. One took early retirement, one moved to the Decatur system, and two just quit being teachers because they had taken all of the stress they could handle. By the time my youngest started kindergarten at the same school last year, morale was so low that you could cut the tension with a knife. After one year we bailed too. The teachers at our private school are a breath of fresh air.

Dekalbite@Marla

January 26th, 2013
5:14 pm

If you make a job miserable for teachers, you make it miserable for students because teachers and students are inextricably linked in the same environment. What responsible parent would want to degrade the environment their child spends most of their time in?

As a business analogy, if you lower morale for your key personnel and your customers, you will see your business suffer sooner or later. The same is true of education. If you lower morale for your key personnel (that would be teachers), then you will see a decline in your return on investment which is student progress. What parent wants this?

big picture

January 26th, 2013
5:22 pm

I have talked to the teachers at my childrens’ schools over the past 5 years. There can be no doubt that morale in the school house is at an all time low! My kids have had average, below average, and exceeding good teachers. It is the latter who have left or have applications and the need to move on. To our teachers, my family is grateful for all that you do, before school, during school, and after school. You not only provide a strong educational basis for our family to use as a foundation in helping our kids grow, you care for my children when I am not there. I am sorry, as a taxpayer, that my money has been mis-spent, sent to provide wonderful chairs and salaries to the central office, while you are short on supplies, long on students, and exasperated by the constant hoops and obstacles you face (from that same central office) in getting your job done. Many of us know and are doing all that we can to shed light on the truth. Know also that we understand that you have your own families to feed, and we understand your need to prioritize as you look down the road.

To the poster who asked what makes a good teacher. To me, as a parent, a good teacher cares that EVERY child in a classroom progresses forward. It is clear that the powers that be, particularly in DeKalb county, are concerned with learning gaps – with specific focus on the lowest scores. A good teacher doesn’t limit his/her focus and conform to only the curriculum and benchmarks and daily paperwork requests from the central office. In the end, the good teacher helps a struggling reader – not by expecting less, but by expecting reasonably – by rewarding success and continuing to push small successes into big ones. They do not expect less, but provide strategies for children to learn more. A good teacher does not limit attention to only struggling students, leaving middle and top performers on their own; rather that teacher ensures that mid-level students are exposed to projects and topics that get them excited about learning and interested in succeeding and pushes top-level students to test their limits (not tutor their peers).

There are many good teachers, and we spend too little time talking about them. They are tired. Especially in Dekalb.

Teacher Reader

January 26th, 2013
6:04 pm

As a former teacher, I really am hearing teachers complain. Most professionals work more than 8 hours a day and work weekends to boot. Teachers are not alone in this regard. Most other professions have also had stagnate pay and EVERYONE is seeing less money in their paychecks. Teachers are not alone. Several professionals that I know were to get bonuses only to have the way the bonuses were structured changed right before the bonuses were to be given, ripping this bonus from their grasp. Many professionals do not have the number of days off a year that teachers have.

I am not saying that teachers aren’t hard working, or that good teachers aren’t deserving of a nice salary, but hearing teachers whine about not being thanked is life!!!! This happens to many in their professional life and they don’t whine nearly as much as teachers do.

As an ex-teacher if you don’t like teaching or what it is becoming stop whining and do something about it. Stop being fearful of what someone is going to do and speak up. Then parents will support you a hundred percent, especially if what you say shows that you care about the children, something that too many running our schools are forgetting. I cannot support whiny teachers, one reason I never ate in the faculty room and only went in to use the bathroom and left as quickly as I could. If teachers don’t like what they see or experience, than they need to be the change that they wish to see.

Dunmoody

January 26th, 2013
7:08 pm

Our family has always expressed our appreciation to teachers in writing, with small gifts, and with our volunteer support. Those who compare teaching to working in the corporate world are missing a key point: businesses do not have responsibility for educating our children. Businesses do not educate us emotionally, intellectually, and socially. Teachers teach … and so much more.

Thank you Austin Elementary teachers of 1998 – 2007 for your stellar professionalism, caring attention, and outside-the-box thinking. Dara Kleinman, Ingrid Allen, James Unger, Segrid Sevillian, Ann Culbreath (who was a teacher then!), Joanne Konenkamp, Janie Kossak, Heather. Hackett: you prepare children for the next level by demanding their best and encouraging them every step of the way.

Thank you Peachtree Charter Middle School 6th, 7th, and 8th Grade teams including Jill Catoe, Ingrid Gero, Lisa Medina, Cathy Burch, the late Keith Davis, Gail Prosser, Carole Dunn, Caryn Gartner, Terry Shores, Walter Hickman, Lisa Magness, and Devin Simony – you made the tortuous middle school years academic challenging and emotionally enriching.

Thank you Dunwoody High School teachers who raise the bar and keep pushing students to meet academic challenges and grow: Erik Vincent, Adrienne Rowe, Mary Sturken, Rand Wise, Nancy Watson, Will Henderson, Brad Hendrickson, Allison Ingram, Bryan Boucher, and Alethea Love, Steve Fortenberry, Kara Bryant, Alan Ritchey, and Lori Vesole.

Those are the teachers my students have had the privilege to learn from. I am confident there are many, many other talented, proficient educators in the Dunwoody cluster.

Thank you for choosing to teach.

Pride and Joy

January 26th, 2013
8:32 pm

Dunmoody, thanks for naming names!

JACKIE

January 26th, 2013
10:02 pm

I AM AFRAID THAT IN MOST SCHOOL SYSTEMS, THE GOOD PAY AND EASY WORK JOBS ARE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES. AS AN ASIDE, MAUREEN, WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THOSE 60 OR SO MAKE WORK JOBS IN THE ATLANTA ADMIN. OFFICES CREATED BY THE FORMER ADMINISTRATOR? THESE WERE JOBS CREATED FOR HER RETIRED COHORTS. THANK YOU.

Marla

January 27th, 2013
6:27 am

10:10 had the absolute best comment on this blog so far:

“Legislators could help ensure that turnover of ineffective/chronically dissatisfied K-12 teachers becomes more rapid … and that applicants for those open teaching position then have the opportunity to show what they can do.

And then be recognized by grateful parents.”

I agree with 10:10. I personally don’t aspire for a teaching job, but I know many people who have all the qualifications necessary and are working or have worked as substitute teachers in the hopes to break in that way. Some gave up after a few years. I took the opportunity to speak for them here.

Where is the daily TV news segment or blog segment to honor specific workers in all the other low pay and thankless service jobs that make a community function. Firemen, police, mail delivery, military, red cross and many, many others.

Right now teachers suck up all the available appreciation from the village and still that is not enough for them.

Each whining teacher on this blog, let me ask you, how many hand written letters have you sent to be placed into the personnel files of all the service and low pay people that cross your path every day?

You have a job to do just like the rest of us. If you can’t do it without being stroked like a kitten, move on and allow the job opportunity to open for someone else.

Beverly Fraud

January 27th, 2013
6:39 am

Actually if you think a teacher is good in DeKalb County might not their be a moral imperative to pray they get a better opportunity outside DeKalb?

Dewey Cheatham & Howe

January 27th, 2013
6:48 am

“Each whining teacher on this blog, let me ask you, how many hand written letters have you sent to be placed into the personnel files of all the service and low pay people that cross your path every day?

You have a job to do just like the rest of us. If you can’t do it without being stroked like a kitten, move on and allow the job opportunity to open for someone else.”

Eloquent. Accurate.

+1

Astropig

January 27th, 2013
7:01 am

Please help me here…

Most if not all “administrators” in public school systems are teachers or former teachers aren’t they ? I mean, don’t you have to certified as a teacher to move up the ladder to a paper pushing job?

The thing that I can’t get my arms around is this: If administrators are teachers or former teachers, at what specific point did they go from caring professional to heartless,power drunk slavedrivers? If there is shared experiences with their charges,why do they seem to become an enemy when they get promoted ? I mean, most of the frustrated teachers that I read here every day reserve their harshest criticisms for the managements of their own schools and districts. But that management is primarily composed of people like…Them. Could it be that teachers are just resentful of any management structure ? Or is the Peter Principle the polar star of promotion in our school systems?
Or is it a disdain for the administrators for those “beneath” them in the food chain?

From the outside, it looks like a shark pool of backbiting,duplicity and intrigue. I would honestly like to know.

gdfo

January 27th, 2013
7:30 am

First I say, Thank you to the inspired instructors, and Thanks to the teachers who spend their work time as caretakers. I do think that this is a small number of the profession. BTW there are people in every profession that have similar feelings as mentioned in that letter. Professions from physicians to sewer workers. Some are excellent and socially concious and some are boarderline in proficiency and live within the cheaters culture. Under-appreciated teachers are not alone, they just get lonely.

Not long ago I had the opportunity to visit a classrom in a Ga. school. The teacher asked for a word from the class and a studen offered a word that fit the category of discussion. The teacher wrote the word on the erasable board and MISPELLED it. I mentioned in a eventoned and quiet voice what letter to change and she ask, ‘are you SURE?’.

Some people who work as teachers should, in fact,not be allowed near a classrom or near young impressionable children.

Mom at

January 27th, 2013
8:21 am

Gdfo… You misspelled mispell.

My kids are in Gwinnett. Since high school and middle school they have been exposed to over 60 teachers. And I have to say 80% have been outstanding. And I do write letters. My kids LOVE going to school everyday because of these wonderful teachers.

d

January 27th, 2013
8:39 am

@gdfo – you should’t misspell misspelled if you are going to complain about people misspelling words :)

Here’s where I have an issue. DeKalb County is constantly adding stuff to my workload that other districts aren’t and they aren’t actually paying me to teach this year. My entire salary is paid by the state this year. They furlough us, but don’t save a dime for DeKalb by furloughing me (and many other teachers in the middle of their careers) – they simply save the state of Georgia money. Yes, I should have bailed out years ago, and have no one but myself to blame for not. What is so bad about wanting some recognition for what I do – at no charge to the DeKalb County School District?

Comprehension 101

January 27th, 2013
9:03 am

As an administrator(county undisclosed) and a parent of two young children, I apprecaite all of our teachers. I am a fairly new administrator so I am not that removed from the classroom. I understand the issues raised on this blog; however, please be aware that even when I am driving into work, I am thinking that I will email my departments the minute I enter my office and express how excellent their unit plans were for the week, or how impressed I am with an idividual’s achievement–BUT, as I enter the building, I have teachers, parents, students, 100 emails and often police officers and parole officers at my door. I am at school by 6:30-7:00 am daily, but this does not seem to matter. My day is non-stop and I love it… I realize that teachers are under much stress– unveiling of Common Core, meeting the needs of many students using differentaition which often is a lofty idea, many meetings, data collection, having more than 32 students per class, pay decreases, furlough days, attendance issues of students, parents who are disengaged, parents who do not speak English and the list goes on. I GET IT!!! However, this is the profession we all choose. I am not at my building so the Area Superintendent pats me on the back because I have instituted a new program or elevated attendance among our students or even assisted the many young girls who became pregnant. No!!! I am there for the students. My goal is to educate through conversation and being an excellent role model. Our task as educators is difficult, challenging at best but never boring. I love it. Possibly those that have grown disenchanted translates into those that need to move on. I wish you all the best of good fortune, truly; I also am most grateful for all that you have bestowed upon your students. For those that remain, I suggest you reach down and find the lost passion for our profession that you once held. Recollect the excitement when you first were offered your first position. Remember how you thumbed through Harry Wong’s text to analyze strategies that would make a better and more conducive learning environment for all student. And pray that our economy progresses whereby you will have a complete salary again with raises and well earned steps. I know you are a professional and you work hard and I sincerely thank you very much for all you do.

I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

January 27th, 2013
9:06 am

@Marla “Each whining teacher on this blog, let me ask you, how many hand written letters have you sent to be placed into the personnel files of all the service and low pay people that cross your path every day? “

Well, personally if they were teaching my child for everyday for nine months, you bet I would send a note. As it is, I try to personally thank such people all the time. And if they do a repeated service for me, such as my mail carrier and my hairdresser, yes, they get a note or a wee bonus at the holidays. One time service providers, such as my plumber, if they do an excellent job, get an online recommendation on Angie’s List – which I suspect is something they appreciate since it brings more business. Others get a “tip” which is a financial “thank you”.

Besides, last time I checked, there wasn’t an ongoing campaign to undermine other service workers. Don’t recall reformers coming in to tell Red Cross workers and firefighters how to “do their jobs” and asking for ever more intense “evaluations” all the time. Don’t recall public forums in which firefighters are constantly called “whiners” and denigrated by those who have no idea what they do. Do you not think the “whining” might be a reaction to being constantly attacked?

I wondered how long the “good will” would last after teachers gave their lives trying to protect the students at Sandy Hook…. seems the limit is a little over a month. Now we are back to being “whining” teachers because we DARE make the suggestion that if a parent is really pleased with how we worked with their child, seven hours a day, for 180 days a year, it would be really nice to know. How ungrateful and self-centered of us.

Can’t help but wonder, what do all you negative non-teacher posters get out of coming here? You obviously do not like or appreciate teachers (unless they are the meek and silent types). You rarely have anything non-critical to add. You do not know enough about our job to offer professional advice. To me, you are just part of the ongoing problem – a public that has been so conditioned to despise teachers, that a simple request to let a teacher know if you think they are doing a good job turns into an opportunity to bash us once again.

And you don’t think that has an effect on teacher morale?

Or maybe that is the whole point, drive enough of us out of the profession and there will be more spaces for those “who were not chosen” for the classroom and have some idea that things will be so much better for them. Or maybe there will be more opportunity for those who want to push for online schools, and charter schools.

Who stands to benefit from the whole “public schools are all failing and the teachers are lazy, whining government moochers” rhetoric? Do you?

C. Tampa Ironworse

January 27th, 2013
9:56 am

Amen Marla!!!!!

A Fan of Teachers

January 27th, 2013
9:58 am

Chocolates might not work because of diets, handwritten notes are great – but a gift card to Starbucks or Publix even for a token amount – is the best! And no, I am not a teacher. I just believe in treating them like gods and goddesses because they spend more waking hours a day with my child than I do and their work is so crucial to her success.

S.

January 27th, 2013
10:18 am

Courtesy, compassion, respect I learned at home and pass on to my high school students. And yes, I do thank the mailman, garbage men, police officers, firefighters, and people with whom I come in contact for a job well done. A simple “thank you” means so much to those who seldom hear words of gratitude for a job well done. Perhaps those of you who are bashing teachers missed that lesson?

Pride and Joy

January 27th, 2013
10:23 am

To I Love Teaching –
I work in the corporate world. I never, ever get a thank you or a note or a special “business woman appreciation day.”
And to say that “You do not know enough about our job to offer professional advice.” is completely untrue.
All of us went to school. Someone who is a high school graduate had at least ten different teachers in grammar school, twenty differnt teachers in middle school and 24 teachers in high school.
AT LEAST 54 teachers. Teaching is a profession we know THE MOST about because we’ve had at least 13 years of it.
We are qualified to give you profession advice and my advice to you is to quit complaining on a public blog. It hurts all the members of your profession. It makes all of you appear child-like and whiney. It does you no good and it frustrates parents and alienates parents.
You say you want the cooperation of parents. You’ll certainly get less of it by complaining about parents on a public blog. Save your complaints for discussion within a teacher-only environment. Look for solutions. When you have an issue with a parent, address it PRIVATELY with that individual parent and your supervisor if necessary.
WHEN you have sage advice for parents, please share it …politely and calmly. (Please read Mary Elizabeth’s posts — she’s unfailining polite and calm and gets many kudos fromo all of us. I don’t always agree with what she says but I ALWAYS agree with how she says it. )
When you have genuine valid concerns about your work enviornment, bring it up with the NEA or create your own group. You have the right to protest, picket, walk-out and other rights.
Please understand, I love Teaching, complaining here on Get Schooled absolutely alienates and frustrates the very people you want or should want to partner with.
I send my children to school everyday on time, with a good healthy breakfast in their tummies, appropriately and respectfully dressed, homework complete and signed, a lecture in manners before I drop them off. I come to parent teacher conferences on time and prepared. BOTH of us are at each teacher conference, not just one. I volunteer at the PTA, I give and give and give money, time, supplies and so on…and…my child’s teacher treated me like the enemy. She was just as angry as you sound in your posts.
I can’t turn aruond without seeing another parent just like me.
During teacher appreciation WEEK (why did appreciation “day” morph into appreciation “week”?)the room mother gathered a great deal of money for the teacher and her assistant — $400 total.
other parents and I constantly gave paper towels, Lysol wipes, markers, copy paper, and on and on and on…
And then when I hear a teacher like you complain and whine and make bitter, angry comments about parents…how do you think YOU make US feel?
It alienates us. It makes us think you are unappreciative of the teacher WEEK and we resent you.
This is the consequence of you complaining about parents on a public blog.
Is this what you really want?
You have to realize you are hurting yourself and you are hurting your colleagues too.

TechEd

January 27th, 2013
10:46 am

I think a lot of folks miss the point of the letter, which as I understand it, is: there are a lot of dedicated teachers out there who are hanging on by a thread due to the overwhelming negativity they deal with in their teaching jobs in Dekalb County. Soon, they will have the opportunity to leave those jobs for other opportunities in other counties. If you have an interest in having good schools in Dekalb and wish to keep the good teachers, now would be an opportune time to let those good teachers know. Otherwise, you may lose them.

And while I’m here, a shout out to my high school English teacher, Mrs. C. Corley and my 8th-grade English teacher, Mrs.N. Lyle. Both made a huge, positive impact on me when I was getting schooled in the Gwinnett County school system in the late 70s and early 80s.

FYI

January 27th, 2013
11:03 am

@Marla
“We do not get paid if we take off two whole months in the summer and spring and fall breaks to be with our kids. We get two lousy weeks vacation.”
Just thought that you should know that teachers are only paid for the months they work for that school year. Our checks are divided into 12 months so we can have a check each month for budgeting purposes. During those summer months, most teachers attend one or more classes to keep their certificates current, and some attend meetings in order to plan for the upcoming school year (and they aren’t paid to attend those meetings since they are during summer months).
Perhaps you should do your homework before you spout off about how teachers are paid.

Goodteacher

January 27th, 2013
11:18 am

I don’t need any stroking Maria so thanks for the love. I love teaching, I hate what it has become. Teaching is not for everybody and good teaching requires more than a degree, as does most jobs. The more government gets involved the worse it gets…just like everything else.

But why I am here is to give a shout out to good parents…some of you may not realize that good parents are a wonderful addition to a class. More good parents = a more successful classroom. Good parents send their kids to school with good food in the stomach. Their kids have their homework and know that if they get a sad note from their teacher that their parents will be disappointed in them. Good parents write notes on the HW when they did not understand what they were supposed to do and then come in to get clarification on what the teacher wanted. Good parents care and want to help the teacher succeed in reaching their child. Good parents write simple little notes, come to conferences, smile at teachers when they see them. And yes when I have good parents I always let them know how much I appreciate them. I don’t mind bringing clean socks for your child, giving them supplies when they need them, cleaning the vomit off them when they come to school sick, I love your kids…I would just like for you to say thank you sometimes. I mean, I thank the sanitation workers when they go above and beyond, I thank anyone that helps me or goes the extra step…so I take it back Maria, I like for someone to say thanks every now an then. Don’t you?

SGATeacher

January 27th, 2013
11:50 am

Here is my two cents:

Last year, 2012, I was chosen as STAR teacher of the STAR Student. This is still one of the best moments of my teaching career, but I have also saved every personal note, letter, email and such that teachers and students have sent me over the last 13 years of my career.

I told my STAR student during the luncheon I know his goal in life is to be rich, but he would never achieve monetarily the wealth that I felt that day and still do.

Little things like a note from a student or email from a parent make my year worth it. I try to let my kids’ teachers know the same thing. A little praise goes miles with teachers and parapros.

RJ

January 27th, 2013
12:02 pm

@Marla, you right, there is a line of teachers waiting the fill the positions of those that choose to leave. What I’ve learned is that once they’re in the door, they’re ready to leave just like those before them. You see, being a substitute is a wee bit different from being a teacher. As a substitute you get to choose what schools you want to work for. As a teacher, once you agree to work at a school, you will work there, or possbily be moved to a different school without any say. Next year I suspect my school will have at least 6 openings. That’s a lot for this economy. All of them have been there less than 4 years. They left other school systems and now want out. I am planning my transition into entreprenuership. Within the next 3 years I will be gone. Whoever takes my position will learn quickly why I left.

My husband gets 6 weeks vacation with an additional 5 sick days and bonus checks. They get gift cards at Christmas and Thanksgiving to Walmart. The benefits package is better, even without the pension, and they’re getting a raise! No raises for going on 7 years, we don’t get bonuses of any kind, and they want to write you up if you use your sick days! I didn’t get into this career for the days off. Sure, it’s a perk, but at the end of the day, it’s not enough to keep me here. I seem to care a bit too much. I bust my butt to work with kids whose parents don’t feel the need to come to the school for any reason other than complain. Yes, I have some outstanding parents. I so appreciate them and I let them know how much I appreciate their support. But there are too many others that don’t. Couple that with a spineless administration and you have a choatic environment where morale is lower than I’ve seen at any school. I LOVE teaching but I truly hate what it has become.

RJ

January 27th, 2013
12:03 pm

Ooops, I meant “you’re” right.

Student Advocate

January 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

TechEd gets it 100%…attitudes like Maria’s are why no good, caring teachers will be left in DeKalb schools.

A Teacher, 2

January 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

Just askin’………..Do you really want your kids to be taught by a teacher who considers teaching “a job?”

A Teacher, 2

January 27th, 2013
1:18 pm

You might want to watch what you ask for………You may get it!

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
1:50 pm

@ Marla

form what you’ve posted, you appear to have made some difficult choices which backed you into a low paying, unrewarding, dead end existence

perhaps if you chose to return to school you might learn some new skills which could make you competitive for the many private sector jobs which offer much better benefits than we get.

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
1:52 pm

@ 10:10,

how about sharing with the rest of the class who and where this pool of more qualified applicants 10 deep?

be specific, with lots of details.

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
1:56 pm

BTW Marla

what world do you live in?

10:10 am

January 27th, 2013
2:21 pm

@ blabney feignsworth:

Perhaps Maureen will enlighten us with accurate statistics on just how many applicants there are for vacant K-12 teaching positions in the fields of social studies, language arts, math and general science in the Atlanta metro area.

My guess? More than enough to replace the perpetual malcontents, many times over.

fjeremey

January 27th, 2013
2:22 pm

Kind words are always appreciated, but if you really want to help then work with me. I don’t need praise and recognition. What I need is for you to make sure your student is doing their work when they are out of my class; that they are editing their paper one more time before turning it in; that they are reading the articles and taking notes; that they are getting enough sleep; that they are e-mailing me with those questions over the weekend and the night before the test; that they communicate their frustrations to me so that we can work it out; and don’t denigrate me or the assignment, if you don’t understand my way or purpose let’s talk about it, and just because you may not agree, doesn’t mean it’s “bad”. Some of you are fantastic. Some of you drop the ball. I need you to be my ally in helping your child come to understand what they want out of this life. I only see them for 4.5 hrs per week. This is a team effort. Yes, kind words are appreciated. But let’s work together for the children’s future.

Math teacher

January 27th, 2013
2:23 pm

Every teacher is not good at math. This has led to the belief that teachers get paid for their time off in the summer. True, most teachers get a check in the summer. This is because the school system uses a formula to divide the salary into 12 months of pay for those who cannot budget well. Most systems give 12 sick days a year (2-3 of those can be approved personal days). Paid vacation is not a part of the teaching profession!!!
We used to have the formula stated on our contract with 190 days of work for the school year, then 180 days of work, now our contract reads “number of work days”. Therefore, the system is not guaranteeing that we will have a certain number of days to work.

GA Teacher 10

January 27th, 2013
2:55 pm

“Counting down the days until escape.”

Same goes here for this teacher stuck in ClayCo. Been trying for 3-4 years to get out to a better district. I’ve learned to suck it up, do the very best I can for the students who work hard, and “do the most good possible,” but I will be hitting warp speed at the first chance I get to get the H out.

I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

January 27th, 2013
3:37 pm

@Pride and Joy

I work in the corporate world. I never, ever get a thank you or a note or a special “business woman appreciation day.

I am sorry no one has ever told you thank you for a job well done. That is a shame, but I do not see how it reflects upon teachers or the request for recognition by teachers. Would you not appreciate it if someone were to tell you thank you? Would that not make your day?

And to say that “You do not know enough about our job to offer professional advice.” is completely untrue.

I am afraid I have to disagree. Sitting in a classroom does not really prepare you to offer professional advice to teachers. Much of what a teacher does goes on “behind the scenes”, as it were. My students have no idea what goes into a lesson plan, or a daily activity. They have no concept of the hours spent in meetings, or how long it takes to assess essays, and calculate grades. They know nothing of the afterschool meetings with colleagues, weighing data and making curriculum decisions. The do not understand how we make flexible grouping decisions, or how or why their lessons are differentiates. They do not understand what it takes to write curriculum, design a balanced assessment, or score a standard based grading system.
As a former student and a parent, you can certainly offer advice on teacher/parent interaction, on what you prefer in a conference setting, on how to best explain how to help your child, but when it comes to my “profession” unless you have an educational degree and experience in the classroom, you really are speaking without knowledge. I see my dentist, car mechanic, and doctor on a regular basis to, but I wouldn’t try to tell them how to do their jobs.

We are qualified to give you profession advice and my advice to you is to quit complaining on a public blog.

You consider it complaining. I consider it self-advocacy. ;)

It does you no good and it frustrates parents and alienates parents.

Actually, it does do me good. Maybe, just maybe, I will encourage someone to write a nice note to a teacher today.
But I must ask, how does it alienate YOU to ask parents to let us know when we do a good job? PLEASE explain to me EXACTLY how that somehow is frustrating for you? Are you the type of parents who never tells a teacher thank you? From your comments, it does not appear so, so why are my comments “alienating to you”? What EXACTLY have I said that you find so totally frustrating? I honestly do not know.
Look for solutions.
Seems to me the entire focus of this thread was about a solution to the low morale that pervades teaching. So the post writer makes a suggestion of a way parents can help good teachers feel better about what they do, and some posters feel the need to clober her for it, along with anyone who agrees with her.

WHEN you have sage advice for parents, please share it …politely and calmly.
I do consider my comments polite and calm. I have called anyone a “whiner”. I haven’t used capital letters to scream at anyone. Can you point out the exactly comments I have used that you deem so negative towards parents?

I send my children to school everyday on time, with a good healthy breakfast in their tummies, appropriately and respectfully dressed, homework complete and signed, a lecture in manners before I drop them off. I come to parent teacher conferences on time and prepared. BOTH of us are at each teacher conference, not just one. I volunteer at the PTA, I give and give and give money, time, supplies and so on…and…my child’s teacher treated me like the enemy.

Well, all I can say is you are the type of parent teachers appreciate, and I have never said otherwise. I never treat my parents like the enemy – nor did I suggest anything of the sort in my posts. The most I said was that some parents come in with a very negative attitude, which I must work to overcome.

She was just as angry as you sound in your posts.

Angry? No…frustrated at certain individuals who seem to have nothing better to do than attack my profession, yes.

During teacher appreciation WEEK …

The only thing I ask for during teacher appreciate week are supplies for my students. I don’t see the point in trying to “force” appreciation for one week, or even one day…do the things you do, get your child to school on time, make sure they do their homework, attend conferences, and that is enough. (Though a nice note at the end of the year would be special too…)

And then when I hear a teacher like you complain and whine and make bitter, angry comments about parents…how do you think YOU make US feel?

Again, where did I post bitter and angry comments about parents? I do not understand what you are reacting so strongly towards?

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
4:11 pm

@ 10:10

something I remain curious about: you are either unwilling or unable to offer people you attack even the most basic civility.

why is this?

Beverly Fraud

January 27th, 2013
4:15 pm

“Legislators could help ensure that turnover of ineffective/chronically dissatisfied K-12 teachers becomes more rapid … and that applicants for those open teaching position then have the opportunity to show what they can do.”

Or we could address teaching conditions so that chronically dissatisfied K-12 teachers who are effective don’t leave the ranks of public school teachers.

But then that would force us to admit the entire system is permeated by ineffectiveness, thus it becomes far easier to play “blame the teacher” first, last, and always, doesn’t it?

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
4:16 pm

@ 10:10

tight little intellectual corner you’ve backed yourself into, isn’t it?

you made a claim you can’t verify, and now you must resort to namecalling and trying to get someone to bail you out with facts you are unable or unwilling to provide yourself.

so you either have to admin you were speaking your factless opinion, or that you were just base trolling. either way would require you to have a moment of intellectual honesty and/or integrity.

again, nice box you’re put yourself in

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
4:20 pm

@ beverly

what I think really lurks at the heart of all this is very simple. they attack us for the simple reason of trying to cover up/deny their basic intellectual and parental failings.

intellectual in it is their votes which enable the idiot pols who create and reinforce this mess, and parental in regard to the poor job so many have done in their “efforts” to raise their children.

much easier to scapegoat us. allows the personal delusions to continue

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
4:24 pm

@ 10:10

just for giggles—

when is the last time your were in front of a class? made your last lesson plan? hosted your last parent teacher conference?

Charles Douglas Edwards

January 27th, 2013
5:34 pm

Teaching is one of the most important and honorable professions known to mankind !!!

We must encourage our best and brightest to become teachers.

Teachers have a hard, hard job and need the support of parents, students and administrators. We need to show appreciation to our teachers.

Keeping bright, talented and motivated teachers in our classrooms is vital.

We owe it to our children to give them the best teachers and education possible.

9th Grade Teacher

January 27th, 2013
5:47 pm

I must “quit” at least once a week. Some days it feels like I can’t go one more class period, let alone one more day. But then I look at the graduation/class/personal pictures from my students and the letters and emails I receive from them and their parents and, inevitably, I find the strength to push on one more day. Those letters and notes really do make a difference. Knowing that what I do is appreciated makes my job worth while even if my school district doesn’t seem to think so.

Teresa

January 27th, 2013
6:20 pm

More whining from teachers! Everyone is finding it tough these days and few have the job security of teachers.

10:10 am

January 27th, 2013
7:52 pm

@ Pride and Joy:

Just happened to scroll up to your comments. Well written, sage advice indeed. If our blog moderator were even-handed in her approach to issues yours might be featured as the next Get Schooled discussion topic.

Truth in Moderation

January 27th, 2013
8:09 pm

In the past, I taught part time at a small private Christian school. Even with part time status, I was treated like a queen. The headmaster was a godly Christian man and trusted my abilities as a teacher. I WROTE AND IMPLEMENTED MY OWN CURRICULUM! The parents were always pleased with what the students were learning and many sent nice notes. On a regular basis, the parent organization sent little treats to the teachers during the year. They put on a lovely Christmas party, and each teacher was given a generous bonus. This was not a “tony” private school, but was started by Christians who had a vision of serving children in the area of education and providing a quality education at a reasonable price, thousands below other schools offering a comparable curriculum. GODLY LEADERSHIP IS THE KEY. I hope the teacher in DeKalb will find a better place.

Wilbur

January 27th, 2013
8:14 pm

Two comments.
First my kids had some outstanding teachers. They were kind, capable professionals both cared and who were intelligent and creative about teaching. I really appreciate each one of them. We remember them in person and we recall them with fondness in our family.
Second, the system does not seem to produce such people. They are outliers. Our public school system is broken, perhaps beyond repair. It’s simply not up to delivering excellence to the population it serves. Rather than reform to meet needs, much of education has hunkered down to preserve the status quo by demanding every increasing amounts of money to keep doing what we are doing.
Both points are true. I appreciate the good teachers perhaps even more so as I see how special and unusual they really are. I also see that public education is on the wrong road and seemingly incapable of the kind of change needed.

Pride and Joy

January 27th, 2013
8:30 pm

I love teaching you asked “how does it alienate YOU to ask parents to let us know when we do a good job? PLEASE explain to me EXACTLY how that somehow is frustrating for you?”
I read these blogs everyday and you are a frequent, almost daily poster. You always complain about how horrible your job is. You complain about parents and your bosses and you have no kind words for them.
What the author of this piece asked us to do, is to write about a good teacher and say thank you, yet yo do not. Reread my posts. I DO thank the teacher that made apositive difference in my life; yet you go on and on about how horrible your job is.
You do not make a positive difference on this blog — you indeed alienate parents like me. You give teaching a bad name when you consistently whine on these blogs about how much you hate your job.
You should really reread Mary elizabeth’s posts. She is a thirty-year veteran teacher. To my knowledge, she has never complained about teaching or her bosses or the parents. She consistently discusses education policy and curriculum in a polite, professional manner, even when others are unkind to her.
Please re-read her posts. If you really want to be respected as a professional teacher, speak and post as she does.

Pride and Joy

January 27th, 2013
8:39 pm

Thanks 10:10. for the kind words.

Pride and Joy

January 27th, 2013
8:47 pm

fjeremy, thank you for your comments. I was puzzled by this one “that they are e-mailing me with those questions over the weekend and the night before the test;”
I consider it rude to call or email anyone over the weekend when they are with their families. I consider it rude and wouldn’t allow my children to do so. I also consider it too late in the ballgame to email the teachers the night before the exam as I think that promotes procrastination.
I really appreciate your willingness to do so. It sounds like you are one of those exceptional teachers and I hope my child is lucky enought to have someone like you in their life.
As for me, I encourage my children to prepare without procrastination and to ask questions of their teachers whiile they are in school or at least at a very decent hour during the week.
My experience is this: when I emailed my childrens’ public school techer — they just ignored me. I had to resort to emailing the teacher and then copying the principal to ensure I got a response.
So — thank you. I mean it.

RJ

January 27th, 2013
9:06 pm

“Everyone is finding it tough these days and few have the job security of teachers.”
Please let my friends that lost their jobs that they have job security. Right now, they’re piecing jobs together to make it. There is no job security. I’m reminded of that in just about every meeting I go to.

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
9:11 pm

@ 10:10

still waiting for your answers, data, and list of classroom accomplishments.

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
9:16 pm

@teresa

-GPC booted nearly 700 employees (this includes PTers)
-every primary system in the state has a long list of people who were not offered contracts for the next year with no warning or explanation.
-every college in the state except maybe UGA has quietly been folding jobs and not re-upping staff.
-the BOR legal staff is drowning in harassment suits for abuse and inappropriate dismissal.

now what was it you were saying…?

bootney farnsworth

January 27th, 2013
9:19 pm

@ RJ

I know over 282 people who used to work at GPC who would beg to disagree

I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

January 27th, 2013
9:25 pm

@Pride and Joy

I read these blogs everyday and you are a frequent, almost daily poster.

I do not have the time to post here daily. I have posted on few of the stories lately, but before that I had not posted in quite some time.

You always complain about how horrible your job is. You complain about parents and your bosses and you have no kind words for them.

I have indeed discussed the downside of my job, when it was relevant to the topic. I have also discussed many OTHER issues, including suggestions about how to improve educational training, my feelings on the Common Core, the pros and cons of MAP testing, the dangers of over dependence upon standardized testing, etc. And, yes, I have complained about parents who do not support their children’s education, and about my past administrator who used to throw things at her employees – as well I should! I have also frequently complimented my current administration as they are wonderful and supportive. I have also complimented my supportive parents numerous times. YOU have even complimented ME on my kind words to parents.

Apparently, you have forgotten about that.

What the author of this piece asked us to do, is to write about a good teacher and say thank you, yet yo do not.

Actually, the author asked parents to send notes to good teachers and say thank you, not necessarily to post compliments here on this blog – though it is nice some have done so. I do not really need to praise my good teachers on this blog, as I have already sent them thank you notes years ago, when I entered the teaching field. They know how I feel.

I DO thank the teacher that made apositive difference in my life; yet you go on and on about how horrible your job is.

What does one have to do with the other? And when did I “go on and on about how horrible my job is”?

You give teaching a bad name when you consistently whine on these blogs about how much you hate your job.

Again… post specifics about when I have consistently whined about how much I hate my job.

You should really reread Mary elizabeth’s posts. She is a thirty-year veteran teacher. To my knowledge, she has never complained about teaching or her bosses or the parents. She consistently discusses education policy and curriculum in a polite, professional manner, even when others are unkind to her.

I have read Mary Elizabeth’s comments and find her a delight. She is well informed and well spoken. I have told her so. I am glad you appreciate her commentary, as you have not always done so in the past. Perhaps you forgot about that as well. See, I have a very good memory.

Please re-read her posts. If you really want to be respected as a professional teacher, speak and post as she does.

As much as I admire her, I am not Mary Elizabeth. I am not going to speak and post as she does. I will speak and post as myself, thank you. I am sure Mary Elizabeth does not want me to mimic her voice and style. She speaks well enough for herself.

I asked you to explain exactly when I posted “bitter and angry comments” about parents, and I note, you did not provide one example. Not one. What you did was throw a bunch of generalized accusations at me. It seems only fair that if you are going to criticize me for my posts, you provide SPECIFIC examples of how I have “complained about my bosses and parents and have no kind words for them,” or how I have ‘gone on and on about horrible my job is,” or examples how I “consistently whine about how I hate my job.”

When I make negative comments about ANY parent, I am always very careful to note I am speaking of specific cases, and that there are many wonderful parents who support teachers and do their best for their children. I am fully aware that there are poor educators in the field, people poorly equipped to be teaching children or running schools. I am sure you would agree. You seem to have encountered a few yourself. However, there are also parents who do a poor job of supporting their children’s education. That too is a fact, and I won’t pretend otherwise.

Pride and Joy

January 27th, 2013
9:34 pm

Maureen, APS is seriously considering the same lengthy school year that Dekalb county recently rejected. I am surprised to hear you haven’t blogged about it. Please do.
It lengthens the school year by another month without giving any more instruction time; instead it gives four more one week breaks during the year.

A Teacher, 2

January 27th, 2013
10:26 pm

I was looking at my 1972 Golden Memories from Sylvan High School in Atlanta today. I was in the 8th grade in 1972. There is a poem on page 57 that seems appropriate for this topic.

The Builder

A builder built a temple,
He wrought it with grace and skill;
Pillars and groins and arches
All fashioned to work his will.
Men said, as they saw its beauty,
“It shall never know decay;
Great is thy skill, O Builder!
Thy fame shall endure for aye.”

A Teacher built a temple
With loving and infinite card,
Planning each arch with patience,
Laying each stone with prayer.
None praised her unceasing efforts,
None knew of her wondrous plan,
For the temple the Teacher built
Was unseen by the eyes of man.

Gone is the Builder’s temple,
Crumpled into the dust;
Low lies each stately pillar,
Food for consuming rust.
But the temple the Teacher built
Will last while the ages roll,
For that beautiful unseen temple
Was a child’s immortal soul.

From the Treasure Chest

While I am at it, thank you Lucy Stephens of Sylvan High School. You taught me so well that knowing facts was not enough. You taught me how to think, and because I could think how to write. Thank you Karl Kimbough of Sylvan High School. You taught me that algebra was a step-by-step process, and that all the pieces do really fit together. Thank you Charles Adair of Sylvan High School. You gave me a lifetime appreciation of the military while teaching us Electronics. You modeled how to calmly solve problems that come up every day. Thank you Rufus Burger of Sylvan High School. You taught me an appreciation of the classics, and, more importantly, how to love every student. Thank you Rose Maurie Drake Brown of Perkerson Elementary School. You prepared us so well for high school. You also knew when to back off and let us learn things the hard way. I could go on and on about what you taught us.

I have now been a teacher for almost 34 years myself. I hope that I have done each of you, and the others who I didn’t mention proud. You helped make me the teacher that I am, and I am greatful. More importantly, you each gave of yourselves and help make me the man that I am.

Many people that snipe at the teaching profession truly do not understand the call to teach. There is no more noble calling. Regardless of what anyone thinks of me, I cannot imagine doing anything else the past 33 years. All of the complaints about the teaching profession truly hurt. I am sorry that we can’t please everyone, and I am truly appreciative of those that have said thank you throughout the years. To me, and many, many others, teaching is much more than a job!

Me

January 28th, 2013
8:43 am

One of the biggest problems with public schools today — summed up nicely:

“And to say that “You do not know enough about our job to offer professional advice.” is completely untrue.
All of us went to school. Someone who is a high school graduate had at least ten different teachers in grammar school, twenty differnt teachers in middle school and 24 teachers in high school.
AT LEAST 54 teachers. Teaching is a profession we know THE MOST about because we’ve had at least 13 years of it.
We are qualified to give you profession advice”

What a bunch of BS!
We all drive on the roads everyday too. I guess that makes us all qualified to be road planning engineers.

We all live in houses so we are all qualified to be builders and master electricians.

We all watch TV and movies so we are all qualified to be directors, producers, actors, News anchors etc.

and on and on.

Most idiotic statement EVER!

Catlady

January 28th, 2013
9:34 am

I love this, and I certainly did it with many of my children’s teachers. Last week I got a verbal bouquet from a student. I have been out of class for two weeks administering tests, and one of my students asked when I was coming back? I told him only a few more days, but why was he asking? His regular teacher was there. And he said, “class is so much better when you are there.” It was unexpected, as were the tears that came to my eyes.

Pride and Joy

January 28th, 2013
10:44 am

Me, you are a very angry teacher.
Unfortunately, there are way too many of you.
All that anger you have infects our little children you choose to poison.
You need to get out of teaching…immediately.

stuck in Clayco 2

January 28th, 2013
3:07 pm

THE STATE OF GEORGIA IS ANTI-TEACHER!!!! Clayton County is a cesspool. Incompetent principals who treat teachers like unwanted dogs. An interim superintendent who is just that… an administrative building housing people with created positions, but no job description. Some people just can’t manage. PAM ADAMSON HAS TO GO!!!

LA

January 28th, 2013
4:01 pm

@ Pride and Joy, You have no pride and reading your BS post is not a joy!!!

csdparentteacher

January 28th, 2013
9:50 pm

Kudos to the author of this post. Several years ago I left Dekalb County for City of Decatur Schools.I It wasn’t easy. There were over 200 applicants for my job and I had several rounds of interviews. The difference is remarkable. Size DOES matter, folks. In CSD, I am not a number. I received a “welcome” three weeks before I began in the form of a handwritten note from the Asst. Superintendent. The Superintendent stops by for “coffee chats”. At first, I was afraid to make eye contact with her (if you work in Dekalb, you know what I mean). Coming from a system where contact with anyone above your principal can get you in deep trouble to a “call me if you need anything” system has been an adjustment and an eye-opener. Hang in there, Dekalb folks. I KNOW how good you are. I was your co-worker for 20+ years. I know the long hours you keep. I know the family time you give up. I know the money you spend out of your own pocket for the kid who doesn’t get breakfast. I KNOW. Hold your heads high. You deserve all the praise you can get.

Sandy Springs Parent

January 29th, 2013
12:18 am

I had a pipe burst in my house in Oct, after months of wrangling with the insurance company my plumber came this weekend to start. He comes from a family of 13, Daddy trained each of his sons who range from 64- 39 or to be an electrician, pipe fitter, plumber or HVAC Mechanic. So the Business is truly family run. they only take on enough work that the family members can do. Through out the weekend they brought 4 or so of thie brother and then the two younger brothers boys who ranged from 12-28. The older brother I hired said the teenage and 20 something boys would be willing to help do some demo of the kitchen and damaged walls reasonably for me. They finished all but one area for me so the 28 year said he could finish Monday If I could pick him up at Marta. I did that it took him 2 hrs to get from the Bankhead area.

in talking to him Infound that besides working for his uncles, he was going to Gwinette tech so he could get his plumbers licenses even though he had been to regular 4 year college ( he also told me his dad had a 4 year degee in business that he got playing college football, then went back to tech school and got his more practical HVAC license. He told me that he and his 22 year old brother had decided that the wisest investment was to buy their own home with the low housing costs and low interests so they had bought a 6 bedroom house off of the Bankhead area in AtlantA.That is why is current priority was not a car.

What I did notice as I drove him home between 7:30 -8:00 on Monday night was that everybody is walking the streets and hang out on the street corners in all of the Bankhead area. But back over in Sandy Springs, even a drive through the little Mexico cut through street which is heavily patrolled by the Sandy Springs police.

I just couldn’t imagine anyone having to take Marta twice in a day, for 2 hours for a trip that takes less than two hours in a car.

My act of kindness has prevented my own 11 year old from finishing her homework as she fell asleep in this car ride. She has been asleep since. She did spend 2 hours prior to that working on her homework, which I feel is already way too much.

People need to step outside the box they live in and see, that other people live different lives. The lack of a mature public transportation system has a huge negative impact on our school systems. parents are stuck commuting and not available to help with homework. In DC 30 years ago when I was in college I could hop a train and be any where in 30 minutes. That included it was cheaper to hop the train and go grocery shopping in the suburbs and hop back on it and come back into the city. Hop on it go look up any publication at the library of congress before google.

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DunMoody

January 31st, 2013
11:03 am

Pogo, 1970: “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

As I noted on another blog (Nancy Jester’s), much of the commenting on this blog seems intent on being “right.” Without commentary like Get Schooled, DeKalb School Watch Two, Nancy Jester’s “What’s Up With That?” blog, and others, the status quo of dysfunction and financial mismanagement in DeKalb Schools’ central office would continue unabated.

The point of this blog was teachers working in an environment of negativity and looking for affirmation. I don’t know of anyone, in ANY JOB, who doesn’t appreciate appreciation.

Look in the mirror, folks. Are WE part of the problem? Or are we engaging in a civil discourse that includes opposing view points, presented respectfully, in a common desire to see improvement in public education?

DP530

February 8th, 2013
2:17 pm

Teaching really is under-rated and under-paid, and it can’t be made to fit the model of other jobs because schools aren’t self-interested businesses. They can’t just bank off trends. But teachers get the kind of attention from their students, and have an impact on them (http://empiricalmag.blogspot.com/2013/02/february-excerpt-in-search-of-good.html) that no one else can. There must be some other way of giving them their due.